(IN): India say no to WB fund for tiger conservation

July 26, 2009

http://ptinews.com/news/195624_India-say-no-to-WB-fund-for-tiger-conservation

India say no to WB fund for tiger conservation

STAFF WRITER 20:16 HRS IST

Archana Jyoti

Sariska, July 26 (PTI)

India, which is home to 70 per cent of the world's tiger population, does not

need any fund, aid or expertise from the World Bank for conservation of big cats

in the country, Union Minister of Environment Jairam Ramesh has said.

Ramesh said the country is self-sufficient to do the job with any outside help

but added that the government was open to the idea of the bank funding for

workshops and conferences aimed to boost conservation and protection of tigers

whose population has dwindled to 1,400 in the latest head count.

" We do not need any money from the World Bank for the conservation of tigers in

the country.

" Who else but we being the holder of 70 per cent of the world's tiger population

could know the problems better.

July 27, 2009

U just gotta love a country that can stand up and say NO to large bilaterals

and INGOs. But outside of workshops and conferences, is India really doing

a good job of saving tigers? Are there really only a few thousand left? Are

tigers really bound by national borders and left up to the whim of those few

in power: megalomaniacs that launch nuclear submarines and who are

responsible for irreversible and unthinkable pollutions of natural

resources? Are agencies such as the UN and WB so powerless they can¹t just

go in, set up camp, and get the job done - instead of being delegated the

hostesses role of Weekly Workshops Forever (WWF)? This has to be the height

of insanity for the human vision of animal conservation. Meanwhile, normal

folks like you and I just sit on thumbs and watch tigers denigrate during

this lifetime to nothing more then a late night NatGeo re-run.

Jigs in Nepal

On 7/26/09 11:53 PM, " AZAM SIDDIQUI " <azam24x7 wrote:

>

> http://ptinews.com/news/195624_India-say-no-to-WB-fund-for-tiger-conservation

>

> India say no to WB fund for tiger conservation

> STAFF WRITER 20:16 HRS IST

>

> Archana Jyoti

>

> Sariska, July 26 (PTI)

>

> India, which is home to 70 per cent of the world's tiger population, does not

> need any fund, aid or expertise from the World Bank for conservation of big

> cats in the country, Union Minister of Environment Jairam Ramesh has said.

>

> Ramesh said the country is self-sufficient to do the job with any outside help

> but added that the government was open to the idea of the bank funding for

> workshops and conferences aimed to boost conservation and protection of tigers

> whose population has dwindled to 1,400 in the latest head count.

>

> " We do not need any money from the World Bank for the conservation of tigers

> in the country.

>

> " Who else but we being the holder of 70 per cent of the world's tiger

> population could know the problems better.

>

>>

July 27, 2009

The factor here that is most important to for the survival of the TIGER,

ELEPHANT or any other wildlife is the 'WILLPOWER of the GOVERNMENT'.

There are many loopholes in the existing system, and most of the times

financial crunch is not the main reason.

The biggest being the neglected forest guards.

While the officers and higher ups in the forest department enjoy

promotions, increments etc, it is the vulnerable forest guard who is

expected to perform the herculean task of protecting the TIGER from the

following:

1. Sophisticated gun wielding poachers with vintage .303 rusted rifles.

2. Patrolling bare footed in jungles.

3. Pathetic compensation schemes for death or disability.

Those are just a few harsh realities among hundreds of other issues that are

crippling the wildlife of India which only get worse.

But the good news is that with people like Mr. Jairam Ramesh as the forest

and environment minister one can expect not one not two but many changes and

reforms for good.

We had the Prime Minister taking personal interest in pushing forward the

Tiger campaign, but even he was helpless when his office unnecassarity

delayed many projects.

But since Mr. Ramesh has taken charge he has been doing a wonderful job.

I just hope in the five years he holds office we can hope to see some good

reforms.

Azam

On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Jigs Gaton <herojig wrote:

> U just gotta love a country that can stand up and say NO to large

> bilaterals and INGOs. But outside of workshops and conferences, is India

> really doing a good job of saving tigers? Are there really only a few

> thousand left? Are tigers really bound by national borders and left up to

> the whim of those few in power: megalomaniacs that launch nuclear submarines

> and who are responsible for irreversible and unthinkable pollutions of

> natural resources? Are agencies such as the UN and WB so powerless they

> can’t just go in, set up camp, and get the job done - instead of being

> delegated the hostesses role of Weekly Workshops Forever (WWF)? This has to

> be the height of insanity for the human vision of animal conservation.

> Meanwhile, normal folks like you and I just sit on thumbs and watch tigers

> denigrate during this lifetime to nothing more then a late night NatGeo

> re-run.

> Jigs in Nepal

>

> On 7/26/09 11:53 PM, " AZAM SIDDIQUI " <azam24x7 wrote:

http://ptinews.com/news/195624_India-say-no-to-WB-fund-for-tiger-conservation

>

> India say no to WB fund for tiger conservation

> STAFF WRITER 20:16 HRS IST

>

> Archana Jyoti

>

> Sariska, July 26 (PTI)

>

> India, which is home to 70 per cent of the world's tiger population, does

> not need any fund, aid or expertise from the World Bank for conservation of

> big cats in the country, Union Minister of Environment Jairam Ramesh has

> said.

>

> Ramesh said the country is self-sufficient to do the job with any outside

> help but added that the government was open to the idea of the bank funding

> for workshops and conferences aimed to boost conservation and protection of

> tigers whose population has dwindled to 1,400 in the latest head count.

>

> " We do not need any money from the World Bank for the conservation of

> tigers in the country.

>

> " Who else but we being the holder of 70 per cent of the world's tiger

> population could know the problems better.

>

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July 27, 2009

I am sorry Jigme, what is your particular issue with WWF? Is it the sole

responsibility of WWF to save all animals whilst the other animal rights and

welfare groups relax in sofas and hurl bricks at WWF? How does it help a

tiger, or any animal under the sun, if a model strips naked and runs around

in public? There is a recent article on animal rights groups promoting

pornography which I could share with you. Do you ever ask these groups how

they are saving tigers by implementing such policies? You mock the WWF

acronym as Weekly Workshops Forever. How do you know how effective or

ineffective these workshops are? I have participated in them and am in a

position to tell you that the kind of information and exposure forest

department personnel have got from the WWF workshops is unique and they

themselves have said so.May I also ask you how much is Animal Nepal doing to

save tigers and other animals in the wild ? Who does more to save animals in

the wild internationally, Animal Nepal or WWF? You are sitting in Nepal and

lecturing Indians on how to protect tigers and criticising WWF's role in the

endeavour. May I ask you how are tigers and other wild animals faring in

Nepal with or without the help of the World Bank and how much Animal Nepal

is doing to aid conservation? WWF has been at the forefront of the dispute

between India and Nepal regarding the elephant intrusion issue.What was

Animal Nepal's role and was it more or less than WWF in mitigating the

conflict? Please do not take these as sarcastic queries, for I am really

interested to know how much the critics of WWF are doing for conservation

themselves. Had it not been for WWF, Project Tiger would never have started

in India and the world would never have woken up to the plight of tigers the

way it did. It is certainly a matter of concern the way the project has

progressed(or regressed if you like) but to imply that WWF's workshops have

been ineffective along with everything else they have done, is a very biased

way of looking at things. Do you really think that by just bashing WWF,

tigers and other animals will attain salvation? If so, please elaborate.

WWF is a soft target, is it not? Visible, large and influential. And in

India, the official partner of the NTCA, National Tiger Conservation

Authority and works closely with the government to improve things on the

ground. Has anybody at WWF ever denied that things are not perfect and more

needs to done? Criticism is fine but has to be substantiated and

constructive. If you have a problem with the way WWF is functioning, why

don't you take it up with the WWF representatives in Nepal? If you think WWF

is not functioning properly, why don't you do something better and show the

world that it is possible to do conservation better than WWF(if that is the

sole objective, ie., to one up WWF)? And it might be a good idea to compare

WWF's global contribution to conservation to that of the other animal rights

and animal welfare groups. And if it is at all possible, I would invite you

to attend a WWF workshop in India and criticise it for if you think WWF

workshops are ineffective(I suppose all the other animal conferences solve

all the world's animal problems with a magic wand, yeah?) then I am sure the

WWF team would like to know why and how things could be improved and

alternative strategies considered.

Thank you very much for sharing your thoughts on WWF.

Regards,

On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Jigs Gaton <herojig wrote:

>

> U just gotta love a country that can stand up and say NO to large

> bilaterals

> and INGOs. But outside of workshops and conferences, is India really doing

> a good job of saving tigers? Are there really only a few thousand left? Are

> tigers really bound by national borders and left up to the whim of those

> few

> in power: megalomaniacs that launch nuclear submarines and who are

> responsible for irreversible and unthinkable pollutions of natural

> resources? Are agencies such as the UN and WB so powerless they can¹t just

> go in, set up camp, and get the job done - instead of being delegated the

> hostesses role of Weekly Workshops Forever (WWF)? This has to be the height

> of insanity for the human vision of animal conservation. Meanwhile, normal

> folks like you and I just sit on thumbs and watch tigers denigrate during

> this lifetime to nothing more then a late night NatGeo re-run.

> Jigs in Nepal

>

> On 7/26/09 11:53 PM, " AZAM SIDDIQUI "

<azam24x7<azam24x7%40gmail.com>>

> wrote:

>

> >

> http://ptinews.com/news/195624_India-say-no-to-WB-fund-for-tiger-conservation

> >

> > India say no to WB fund for tiger conservation

> > STAFF WRITER 20:16 HRS IST

> >

> > Archana Jyoti

> >

> > Sariska, July 26 (PTI)

> >

> > India, which is home to 70 per cent of the world's tiger population, does

> not

> > need any fund, aid or expertise from the World Bank for conservation of

> big

> > cats in the country, Union Minister of Environment Jairam Ramesh has

> said.

> >

> > Ramesh said the country is self-sufficient to do the job with any outside

> help

> > but added that the government was open to the idea of the bank funding

> for

> > workshops and conferences aimed to boost conservation and protection of

> tigers

> > whose population has dwindled to 1,400 in the latest head count.

> >

> > " We do not need any money from the World Bank for the conservation of

> tigers

> > in the country.

> >

> > " Who else but we being the holder of 70 per cent of the world's tiger

> > population could know the problems better.

> >

> >>

>

July 27, 2009

Shubho,

Please refer to our last year discussion over this issue!

It must be on AAPN site...

Regards,

Nilesh

[journalistandanimals]

Monday, July 27, 2009 10:41 AM

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