Guest guest Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Dear Azam, Is it possible to learn what has been the fate of these rescued ones meaning their well being. Most of these cattle will suffer from contagious diseases, severe injuries, exhaustion, dehydration and very weak. They will all need immediate special care. And the limitations on such rescues are that there is no care of such magnitude to do so. The governemnt has good laws on cow protection including to look after them but almost all the time it is the AWOs who face the problem of looking after them and this is not easy as grants are not easy for them . If these rescued ones are not into good hands they will all go once again to local middlemen. The government must take the intiative to look after them also. Kind regards, Pradeep. --- On Mon, 5/11/09, azam24x7 <azam24x7 wrote: azam24x7 <azam24x7 (IN): NDTV impact: Crackdown on cattle smuggling " AAPN List " <aapn > Monday, May 11, 2009, 8:17 PM http://www.ndtv. com/news/ videos/video_ player.php? id=1099490 NDTV impact: Crackdown on cattle smuggling Source: www.ndtv.com Three months after NDTV tracked the multi-crore cattle smuggling along Indo-Bangla border, the BSF claims to have seized more than 12000 cattle. But the BSF also admits that it is not enough -- http://www.stopelep hantpolo. com http://www.freewebs .com/azamsiddiqu i Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Dear Pradeep, Thanks for a timely query. I will also ask Azam to look into the matter. Why don't we ask the Animal Welfare Board / Maneka to set up some proper shades along the border at specific Check-posts? I believe there is no derth of funds for the purpose, if intended. How are you others=wise? It is long time since we met at Bali last year. Pl keep in touch. Regards Raja Chatterjee 94334-20602 On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 12:41 AM, Pradeep Nath <vspcadeepwrote: > > > Dear Azam, > > Is it possible to learn what has been the fate of these rescued ones > meaning their well being. Most of these cattle will suffer from contagious > diseases, severe injuries, exhaustion, dehydration and very weak. They will > all need immediate special care. And the limitations on such rescues are > that there is no care of such magnitude to do so. The governemnt has good > laws on cow protection including to look after them but almost all the time > it is the AWOs who face the problem of looking after them and this is not > easy as grants are not easy for them . If these rescued ones are not into > good hands they will all go once again to local middlemen. The government > must take the intiative to look after them also. > > Kind regards, > Pradeep. > > --- On Mon, 5/11/09, azam24x7 <azam24x7 <azam24x7%40gmail.com>> > wrote: > > azam24x7 <azam24x7 <azam24x7%40gmail.com>> > (IN): NDTV impact: Crackdown on cattle smuggling > " AAPN List " <aapn <aapn%40>> > Monday, May 11, 2009, 8:17 PM > > http://www.ndtv. com/news/ videos/video_ player.php? id=1099490 > > NDTV impact: Crackdown on cattle smuggling > Source: www.ndtv.com > > Three months after NDTV tracked the multi-crore cattle smuggling along > Indo-Bangla border, the BSF claims to have seized more than 12000 > cattle. But the BSF also admits that it is not enough > > -- > http://www.stopelep hantpolo. com > http://www.freewebs .com/azamsiddiqu i > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Dear Pradeep, Thanks so much for your mail. I will try to answer some of the points which you have raised. >Is it possible to learn what has been the fate of these rescued ones meaning their well being< Well, the cattle are not RESCUED as you may think, instead they are time and again SEIZED by the Border Security Force personnels manning the Indo-Bangladesh border. There are designated trade routes along the Indo-Bangladesh border in places such as Dawki in Meghalaya, in Tripura etc from where legal trade between the two countries takes place. However since the trade in Cattle has not been legalized, thus it is not possible for traders to penetrate the illegal cattle through these designated trade routes. The Indo-Bangladesh border is 4095 kms in length and extremely porous, most of it is unfenced. The cattle mafia operates all along this border. As you may be aware that transportation of cattle inland (within the country) is not an offense, therefore these truck loads of cattle reach the northeastern belt of India from states such as Bihar, Haryana, UP and other mainland India states. Once they reach the border towns & villages, it is the hundreds of people who are engaged by the mafia to push these cattle heads into Bangladesh candidly. As and when BSF detects any such movement, it takes action. This results in sometimes the surrender of the smugglers and sometimes in death. >Most of these cattle will suffer from contagious diseases, severe injuries, exhaustion, dehydration and very weak. They will all need immediate special care< There was NO veterinary officer where the NDTV crew filmed the cattle being unloaded off the trucks. There was a huge heap of hay where one by one the animals were unloaded (see the NDTV video report). The process of unloading was not cruel. The cattle seemed to be not overloaded and in good health (unlike what we have seen in the PETA undercover report of south India). It seems that Bangladesh has strict norms to take in healthy cattle and this is met. Remember this is cross border trade and where the cattle is traded not meat and so the well being of the cattle is an important criteria to be included in this trade. Also after unloading the cattle are expected to walk hundreds of kilometers to their point of destination which includes both Indian and Bangladeshi soil, so the animal has to be healthy to undertake the daunting task. >If these rescued ones are not into good hands they will all go once again to local middlemen< The cattle seized becomes the property of the Government. It is then auctioned asap by the district administration (this being a regular phenomenon) and the highest bidder gets custody of the cattle. And yet again the cattle head is once again ready to be pushed through the border. >The governemnt has good laws on cow protection including to look after them but almost all the time it is the AWOs who face the problem of looking after them and this is not easy as grants are not easy for them< The Prime Minister, Home Minister, External Affairs Minister and all other Union Minsters , Member of Parliaments & Bureaucrats of India as well as the Indian Army-Navy-Air Force heads are aware of this age old 'ILLEGAL TRADE " . It would be SHOCKING if any of the above claim to be unaware of this issue. Security agencies have also exposed the nexus between cattle trade and gun running and terrorism. It is believed that the revenue generated from this illegal trade is used to purchase and fund terrorist organisations. See the news link below: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Illegal_cattle_trade_funding_terror/art\ icleshow/3554048.cms " Illegal cattle trade funding terror " So you see how BIG and SERIOUS an issue this is. It is not just merely an issue which an animal welfare organsiation can help, this requires the will power of some powerful supreme authority to act. But still I do have hope that if the Prime Minister of India could be roped in by the wildlife lobby to prioritize the tiger crisis issue, why cannot the animal welfare lobby knock his door for the Cows?? It is worth a try. But please, keep away from any emotional awareness campaign to end this. They wont work here. Azam On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 12:41 AM, Pradeep Nath <vspcadeepwrote: > Dear Azam, > > Is it possible to learn what has been the fate of these rescued ones > meaning their well being. Most of these cattle will suffer from contagious > diseases, severe injuries, exhaustion, dehydration and very weak. They will > all need immediate special care. And the limitations on such rescues are > that there is no care of such magnitude to do so. The governemnt has good > laws on cow protection including to look after them but almost all the time > it is the AWOs who face the problem of looking after them and this is not > easy as grants are not easy for them . If these rescued ones are not into > good hands they will all go once again to local middlemen. The government > must take the intiative to look after them also. > > Kind regards, > Pradeep. > > > --- On *Mon, 5/11/09, azam24x7 <azam24x7* wrote: > > > azam24x7 <azam24x7 > (IN): NDTV impact: Crackdown on cattle smuggling > " AAPN List " <aapn > > Monday, May 11, 2009, 8:17 PM > > > > http://www.ndtv. com/news/ videos/video_ player.php? id=1099490<http://www.ndtv.com/news/videos/video_player.php?id=1099490> > > NDTV impact: Crackdown on cattle smuggling > Source: www.ndtv.com > > Three months after NDTV tracked the multi-crore cattle smuggling along > Indo-Bangla border, the BSF claims to have seized more than 12000 > cattle. But the BSF also admits that it is not enough > > -- > http://www.stopelep hantpolo. com <http://www.stopelephantpolo.com/> > http://www.freewebs .com/azamsiddiqu i<http://www.freewebs.com/azamsiddiqui> > > > > -- http://www.stopelephantpolo.com http://www.freewebs.com/azamsiddiqui Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Dear Azam, Thank you for your inputs. Whatever you mentioned is already happening in every city, every district , every State and every border that goes with illegal transportations and illegal slaughterings. It is highly politically motivated. My point was all our efforts are scattered and this is not going to help solve the problem in any way. The Government has to setup just like you mentioned about the Tiger project, this needs to have that kind of attention and this is possible with the right kind of approach and lobbyings. Every detail about this episode is important and not to be construed as sentimental or emotional but knowledge for case promotion. In AP, Karuna and VSPCA has moved the AP High Court and we hope to hear on this more positively apart from lobbying. Thanks and regards, Pradeep. --- On Tue, 5/12/09, azam24x7 <azam24x7 wrote: azam24x7 <azam24x7 Re: (IN): NDTV impact: Crackdown on cattle smuggling " Pradeep Nath " <vspcadeep Cc: " AAPN List " <aapn >, fiapo (AT) googl (DOT) com, weintraub Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 10:01 AM Dear Pradeep, Thanks so much for your mail. I will try to answer some of the points which you have raised. >Is it possible to learn what has been the fate of these rescued ones meaning their well being< Well, the cattle are not RESCUED as you may think, instead they are time and again SEIZED by the Border Security Force personnels manning the Indo-Bangladesh border. There are designated trade routes along the Indo-Bangladesh border in places such as Dawki in Meghalaya, in Tripura etc from where legal trade between the two countries takes place. However since the trade in Cattle has not been legalized, thus it is not possible for traders to penetrate the illegal cattle through these designated trade routes. The Indo-Bangladesh border is 4095 kms in length and extremely porous, most of it is unfenced. The cattle mafia operates all along this border. As you may be aware that transportation of cattle inland (within the country) is not an offense, therefore these truck loads of cattle reach the northeastern belt of India from states such as Bihar, Haryana, UP and other mainland India states. Once they reach the border towns & villages, it is the hundreds of people who are engaged by the mafia to push these cattle heads into Bangladesh candidly. As and when BSF detects any such movement, it takes action. This results in sometimes the surrender of the smugglers and sometimes in death. >Most of these cattle will suffer from contagious diseases, severe injuries, exhaustion, dehydration and very weak. They will all need immediate special care< There was NO veterinary officer where the NDTV crew filmed the cattle being unloaded off the trucks. There was a huge heap of hay where one by one the animals were unloaded (see the NDTV video report). The process of unloading was not cruel. The cattle seemed to be not overloaded and in good health (unlike what we have seen in the PETA undercover report of south India). It seems that Bangladesh has strict norms to take in healthy cattle and this is met. Remember this is cross border trade and where the cattle is traded not meat and so the well being of the cattle is an important criteria to be included in this trade. Also after unloading the cattle are expected to walk hundreds of kilometers to their point of destination which includes both Indian and Bangladeshi soil, so the animal has to be healthy to undertake the daunting task. >If these rescued ones are not into good hands they will all go once again to local middlemen< The cattle seized becomes the property of the Government. It is then auctioned asap by the district administration (this being a regular phenomenon) and the highest bidder gets custody of the cattle. And yet again the cattle head is once again ready to be pushed through the border. >The governemnt has good laws on cow protection including to look after them but almost all the time it is the AWOs who face the problem of looking after them and this is not easy as grants are not easy for them< The Prime Minister, Home Minister, External Affairs Minister and all other Union Minsters , Member of Parliaments & Bureaucrats of India as well as the Indian Army-Navy-Air Force heads are aware of this age old 'ILLEGAL TRADE " . It would be SHOCKING if any of the above claim to be unaware of this issue. Security agencies have also exposed the nexus between cattle trade and gun running and terrorism. It is believed that the revenue generated from this illegal trade is used to purchase and fund terrorist organisations. See the news link below: http://timesofindia .indiatimes. com/India/ Illegal_cattle_ trade_funding_ terror/articlesh ow/3554048. cms " Illegal cattle trade funding terror " So you see how BIG and SERIOUS an issue this is. It is not just merely an issue which an animal welfare organsiation can help, this requires the will power of some powerful supreme authority to act. But still I do have hope that if the Prime Minister of India could be roped in by the wildlife lobby to prioritize the tiger crisis issue, why cannot the animal welfare lobby knock his door for the Cows?? It is worth a try. But please, keep away from any emotional awareness campaign to end this. They wont work here. Azam On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 12:41 AM, Pradeep Nath <vspcadeep (AT) (DOT) co.in>wrote: > Dear Azam, > > Is it possible to learn what has been the fate of these rescued ones > meaning their well being. Most of these cattle will suffer from contagious > diseases, severe injuries, exhaustion, dehydration and very weak. They will > all need immediate special care. And the limitations on such rescues are > that there is no care of such magnitude to do so. The governemnt has good > laws on cow protection including to look after them but almost all the time > it is the AWOs who face the problem of looking after them and this is not > easy as grants are not easy for them . If these rescued ones are not into > good hands they will all go once again to local middlemen. The government > must take the intiative to look after them also. > > Kind regards, > Pradeep. > > > --- On *Mon, 5/11/09, azam24x7 <azam24x7 (AT) gmail (DOT) com>* wrote: > > > azam24x7 <azam24x7 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> > (IN): NDTV impact: Crackdown on cattle smuggling > " AAPN List " <aapn > > Monday, May 11, 2009, 8:17 PM > > > > http://www.ndtv. com/news/ videos/video_ player.php? id=1099490<http://www.ndtv. com/news/ videos/video_ player.php? id=1099490> > > NDTV impact: Crackdown on cattle smuggling > Source: www.ndtv.com > > Three months after NDTV tracked the multi-crore cattle smuggling along > Indo-Bangla border, the BSF claims to have seized more than 12000 > cattle. But the BSF also admits that it is not enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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