AAPN policy Note to self - remember to never irritate a milk addict.

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Oh - so now we have a better idea of which groups / which

individuals you agree  & disagree with.

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Yes - drinking milk in Kolkata is tantamount to murder - I say this without

hesitation - I have not  " missed " seeing massive herds of happy cows eating lush

vegetation & chewing their cud - lakh's / even crores of them - some 20 years of

age - some even older. What I have seen are the stinking hellish regions of

slaughter places & tanneries called Tangra & Tiljallah & now Calcutta Leather

Complex - key / essential components of your  " humane slaughter " game.

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Really ! - " humane slaughter " -  what a sick & twisted phrase to

use on aapn?

 

Are Titan " humane " ?

 

 

Titan have 2 " conveyor belts " - one bring animal skins into their factory - the

other brings out the leather watch bands etc.

 

Are WWF-India " humane " ?

 

 

WWF-India refer to animals on their site as " game " & they serve dead animals to

the corporate types who they are fawning over for money.

 

Intelligent / sincere / animal loving  " corporate types " fund smaller groups  &

actively help them to grow / develop. 

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" John Edmundson discredits Peter Scott " - I deeply resent this statement - where

did I discredit him? - you strongly " disagree with attacks "    - be

consistent Sir - do not attack me.

 

I do challenge Scott's  / your concept of " selecting " which animals to love &

cuddle - which ones to torture & kill .

 

At Slimbridge - Scott's original UK " sanctuary " - you can sit & watch birds in

the restaurant whilst feasting on other birds - cooked ones.

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Yes Merritt - Sir Peter Scott's " condom " comment was probably the most

intelligent thing that he ever uttered.

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- I have had major differences on this Forum with Naresh Kadyan also

about his continuous flow of F.I.R. posts & Petition posts & about his very

apparent jealousy of Maneka Gandhi (vegan) - I do give Naresh credit though for

the fact that he consistently insists that cows / animals  are not killed - I

have never seen Naresh using the term " humane slaughter " .

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I do not challenge your " right " to write this sort of garbage about

eating animals & drinking their juices - but please have the decency to post

it on a Gourmet Food Forum in future.

 

Bonus - this will make you " happier " also - as no-one will there say anything

to disturb your, very obvious, love for drinking cow juice!

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--- On Tue, 10/14/08, wrote:

 

 

AAPN policy

aapn

Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 11:33 PM

 

If we don't want to hear about WWF and Titan then we should not hear

about WSPA or RSPCA or Compassion In World Farming or David Shepherd

Wildlife Foundation or any animal welfare organisation since they

accept meat eating, " classic Kill Some- Love some " folk. We also

should refrain in that case from attending future Asia for Animals

conferences since they preach and endorse humane slaughter. We should

then boycott organisations that serve vegetarian food since according

to vegans drinking milk is murder. AAPN then should only accept

messages from vegans since in John Edmundson's view apparently, " If

you are not a vegan you are a vandal. " John Edmundson discredits Peter

Scott but I think he was a great man who did more than many to save

animals worldwide despite his faults and association with individuals

like Prince Philip. I also disagree with the attacks on WWF since they

ignore the good work they do just as I would disagree with attacks on

RSPCA or WSPA purely on the basis of them not promoting veganism.

Although I appreciate John Wedderburn's new stance on Asia centric

issues, I am concerned about AAPN becoming a rigid forum which accepts

messages pertaining only to what hard core animal rights activists

would agree on principle. That way we would be shutting out many

important issues that are of interest in the real world, not the least

being meat eating and humane slaughter. I also diasgree with Kim

Bartlett when she says that AAPN should not post funding appeals. I

agree with Nilesh that funding appeals on AAPN could generate

favourable responses since in many cases animal welfare organisations

do not know which funding sources exist out there. AAPN could be

helpful in finding them out. Specialisation is good, intolerance is

not.

 

On 10/14/08, john edmundson <balathai wrote:

> What garbage!

>

> WWF- India & Titan - why do we want to know about either?

>

> Classic - " Kill some - love some " - folk!

>

> This is a good example of an " India " post which John W. can

block in the

> very near future!

>

> Here are WWF inviting both corporates................... mere mortal

" Nature

> Lovers " to eat animals with them!

>

> Note to Azam - I hope that they do not kill, cook & serve young

> tender elephant flesh!

> .

> .

> .

> The page link -

> http://www.wwfindia.org/about_wwf/what_we_do/education/nnc/index.cfm

>

> Calling all Nature Lovers! Come join us to experience the grand beauty of

> India!

>

> Campsite

> Accommodations are in comfortable tents, log huts, with attached modern

> toilet facilities. Some sites may not have continuous power supply, but

> substitute hurricane lanterns serve to heighten the wilderness atmosphere.

> Food is both vegetarian and non-vegetarian.

>

> At some campsites big game, including elephants often come visiting to

your

> doorstep!!

>

> For Corporates

> Mostly all campsites have a conducive conference hall cum lounge which can

> be isolated for corporates use. Official work in terms of meetings,

> conferences and training or bond building sessions can also be conducted.

> Electronic equipment such as projectors can be used at most sites.

> .

> .

> .

> Of course Titan will sell more watches - many with bloody straps made from

> the skins of butchered animals.

>

> A sample page link -

>

/p:Fossil%20JR9122%20Titan%20Watch%20(Men's):2003088798

>

> " This mens watch has a distressed black leather strap. "

>

> Yes highly " distressing " .

>

>

>

> --- On Tue, 10/14/08,

 

> wrote:

>

>

> (IN) Corporate tie up with WWF India

> " aapn " <aapn >

> Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 1:19 PM

>

> http://www.medianewsline.com/news/128/ARTICLE/3101/2008-10-13.html

>

> Maxus, BIG Street to Launch Titan – WWF collection Campaign in Delhi

>

> Mon, 13 Oct 2008 19:37:00

>

> MAXUS, one of the leading media agencies in India, has tied up with the

> OOH agency Big Street to take Titan WWF campaign to the lifeline of

Delhi's

> public transport system, the Metro Rail. MAXUS has been responsible for

the

> media strategy of this innovative campaign i.e. for popularising the

> collection is through innovative and impactful media associations across

TV,

> Print, OOH, Online and content associations.

>

> Speaking on this association, Anil Cheriyedath, Business Director, MAXUS

> said, " Titan WWF collection required a unique media approach as it

was

> very

> different from the normal campaigns. The biggest challenge was to thrill

the

> consumer and make him/her involve in this noble cause. OOH, naturally,

> blended itself as a natural medium for this. "

>

> Titan has announced the launch of Titan – WWF collection, a unique

range

> of watches inspired by some of India's most endangered species. In

June

> this

> year, Titan and World Wildlife Fund India (WWF- India) had announced a tie

> up to celebrate World Environment Day: The main objective of this

> partnership was to spread awareness about some of the highly endangered

> species in India through a collection of exclusively designed Titan

watches

>

> The Titan –WWF collection is inspired from six endangered species namely

> Tiger, Indian Rhino, Gangetic River Dolphin, The Red Panda, Whale Shark

and

> Oliver Ridley Turtle. Every watch in the collection signifies the beauty

of

> each of these magnificent animals. This collection has been designed and

> crafted with great attention by Titan's in-house Design Studio in

close

> consultation with WWF. It is a unisex collection and is targeted at the

new

> generation Indian consumer who has a passion for animals. The collection

not

> only acts as a medium to spread awareness about some of the lesser know

> endangered species precious to the environment but it is also a perfect

> accessory for the season.

>

> Speaking at the launch, Harish Bhat, COO, Titan Watches said, " We are

> extremely happy to announce the launch of The Titan –WWF collection. At

> Titan, we are constantly striving to develop collections, which help our

> consumers connect with their deep-rooted yearnings for self-expression.

> Today's consumer seeks to be much more than what he is, and wants to

> express

> multiple desires in his life. Indeed, he lives multiple identities in the

> real world and in his real imagination. Through this new collection we are

> trying to connect with these new consumers who are yearning to Be

More " .

>

> Speaking at the launch, Ravi Singh, Secretary General & CEO,

WWF-India,

> said, " The involvement of corporates in conservation efforts is

critical

> as

> they represent one of the most influential parts of the society. We are

> happy that a brand like Titan is involving itself in an innovative and

> active manner in our efforts to save some of the most endangered species

in

> this country. These watches are meant to make a statement that you do care

> and want to make a difference. "

>

> Present in 13 different styles, the watches would be sold through 5000

plus

> World of Titan show rooms, multi brand outlets and various malls across

the

> country. By buying a watch from the Titan-WWF collection, consumers would

> be making a meaningful contribution to WWF to help these species remain

safe

> in their habitat as a percentage of the sales proceeds will go to WWF.

>

> Kishan Kumar, Investment Group Head, MAXUS added, " In line with Titan

WWF

> campaign's core idea of celebration of the 6 endangered species, we

> partnered with Big Street to come out with this innovative OOH campaign in

> Delhi. The Delhi Metro was chosen as the ideal platform because of the

reach

> as well as the consumer fit. Working closely with the Big Street team, we

> arrived at various creative renditions that gave the collection an

impactful

> larger-than-life image. "

>

> Praveen Malhotra – Senior Vice President – Sales, BIG 92.7 FM further

> added,

> " BIG Street through its constant innovation and leadership has always

> ensured to provide a great value addition for its entire customer and

> partnering WWF in this great initiative is a true example of our belief.

The

> promotions at Delhi Metro will not only impact the key target audience but

> also spread awareness on a larger scale. "

>

> Today Titan Industries is India's leading producer and retailer of

watches

> and jewellery, and is credited with changing the face of the Indian watch

as

> well as the jewellery industry. The watch division has a domestic market

> share of over 70% of the organized market. Titan Industries reported a

> turnover of Rs. 3,046 crore for the year ended 2007 - 08. As a full range

> producer-marketer, Titan Industries offers the Indian and International

> customer a very large range of products to suit various consumer

> preferences. Its products are recognized for innovation in design, quality

> and reliability.