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Below is the original <Dr. Lucy Leigh> mail that found way on my inbox

as well sometime back.

Since I had no requirement for the equipment and vehicle offered hence

I forwarded this to an organisation which has been working for

destitute animals.

Smart spam this huh !

 

Azam

 

<>

 

Lucy Leigh \(Dr.Vet.Med\) [lucy1]

8/1/2008 1:49:05 PM

azamsiddiqui

Donation Inquiry.

 

Goodday!

 

I want to make a one-time non cash donation to a private organization

who may need a vehicle for transportation or a veterinary tech who may

the below tools.

 

I am offering to give away 1 pre-owned GMC Van 2006 model and the

veterinary equipments below.

 

1 Medical Lighting

2 Autoclaves

1 Microscopes

2 veterinary tables & Tubs.

 

 

I am making this donations because I own a small private animal clinic

and preparing to pursue my studies in (Animal Transgenesis and Germ

Cell Research).

 

Are you familiar with these veterinary tools? give me a detailed

information about your work and why you need the vehicle or the

equipments listed above.

 

Sincerely,

 

 

Lucy Leigh

(Dr.Vet.Med).

Tel/Fax: (662) 292-2962-

 

On 1/13/09, avis lyons <avis wrote:

>

>

> avis lyons <iarkerala wrote: Dear sir

> This person was also in touch with us (Dr. Lucy Leigh) no money was sent

> but I spent a great deal of time trying to find a way to get the van into

> India,we tried to find out about the background of Lucy Leigh ,and decided

> it could be a scam.

> This happened to us a time back,in hindsite i should have made this

> public,but i was not sure if it was a scam or not,and decided as i had no

> proof not to make the issue public.

> regards avis lyons www.animalrescuekerla.org

> Merritt Clifton <anmlpepl wrote:

> From ANIMAL PEOPLE, December 2008:

>

> Letters

>

> Scams

>

> Concerning " Scams target adoptors &

> humane societies, " in the October 2008 edition

> of ANIMAL PEOPLE, the Soi Dog Foundation was

> recently scammed out of over $1,400 through one

> of the schemes you mentioned, " in which a

> scammer pretends to be a veterinarian who is

> going back to university, relocating, or

> retiring, and offers to donate veterinary

> equipment to a humane society that will cover the

> transportation. "

> We were introduced to the scammer by a

> bona fide British charity, Wetnose Animal Aid,

> who have donated to the Soi Dog Foundation in the

> past, and were elaborately duped themselves.

> Wetnose told me that they had been offered a

> truck from a donor in Thailand who ran a clinic

> there, but was returning to Britain. The

> inference, I understood, was that the donor was

> personally known to Wetnose.

> If I would arrange the shipping, Wetnose

> would give the vehicle to us. There was also an

> ultrasound machine available.

> When I told Wetnose that of course we

> would be happy to have the vehicle, then they

> wrote back to say that the van had now been given

> away, but the ultrasound machine might still be

> available, and the donor would contact me

> directly. The donor claimed to have the

> ultrasound and a portable autoclave in the

> Philippines, providing all specifications for

> the equipment, which could be sent to us if we

> covered the shipping costs. We later found

> exposés of this scheme online at

> <www.jamesmaurer.com/veterinary-tools.asp> and

> <www.project-honeypot.org/ip_58.64.60.38>.

> Clearly from the honeypot report and

> other links I have followed up on, this scammer

> is targeting animal charities in different ways,

> and under different names.

> --John Dalley

> Soi Dog Foundation,

> c/o 57/61 Laguna Golf Villas

> Moo 4, Srisoonthorn Road,

> Choengthale,

> Phuket 83110, Thailand

> <dalleyj

> <www.soidogfoundation.org>

>

> Editor's note:

>

> John Dalley has investigative background,

> and probably would not have been clipped if the

> scam offer had not been forwarded by a legitimate

> animal charity that he trusted. Wetnose Animal

> Aid director Andrea Gamby-Boulger furnished a

> copy of the original e-mail that fooled her,

> from a " Lucy Leigh, " just one of many names of

> alleged veterinarians that have been used with

> this scheme. " I looked at her web site and read

> up about her and asked her why was she giving up

> her van, " wrote Gamby-Boulger. " No way in a

> million years did I think this was a scam! I do

> get scams that come in and normally you can check

> them out and deal with them. This is obviously a

> very clever one. We first offered the van to a

> couple in the U.K. who rescue dogs in Greece.

> They only turned it down because the engine was

> too big and would be to expensive to fuel, but

> they didn't suspect a scam either. I still can't

> believe it! "

>

> --

> Merritt Clifton

> Editor, ANIMAL PEOPLE

> P.O. Box 960

> Clinton, WA 98236

>

> Telephone: 360-579-2505

> Fax: 360-579-2575

> E-mail: anmlpepl

> Web: www.animalpeoplenews.org

>

> [ANIMAL PEOPLE is the leading independent

> newspaper providing original investigative

> coverage of animal protection worldwide, founded

> in 1992. Our readership of 30,000-plus includes

> the decision-makers at more than 10,000 animal

> protection organizations. We have no alignment

> or affiliation with any other entity. $24/year;

> for free sample, send address.]

>

>

 

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Even if you dont recognise these type of things as scams, the spelling and

grammar (or lack of) used are usually a give away.

 

No one with a Western name like that, and an education like that, would send

such a dreadful email.

 

 

 

2009/1/15 azam24x7 <azam24x7

 

> Below is the original <Dr. Lucy Leigh> mail that found way on my inbox

> as well sometime back.

> Since I had no requirement for the equipment and vehicle offered hence

> I forwarded this to an organisation which has been working for

> destitute animals.

> Smart spam this huh !

>

> Azam

>

> <>

>

> Lucy Leigh \(Dr.Vet.Med\) [lucy1 <lucy1%40inMail24.com>

> ]

> 8/1/2008 1:49:05 PM

> azamsiddiqui <azamsiddiqui%40animail.net>

> Donation Inquiry.

>

> Goodday!

>

> I want to make a one-time non cash donation to a private organization

> who may need a vehicle for transportation or a veterinary tech who may

> the below tools.

>

> I am offering to give away 1 pre-owned GMC Van 2006 model and the

> veterinary equipments below.

>

> 1 Medical Lighting

> 2 Autoclaves

> 1 Microscopes

> 2 veterinary tables & Tubs.

>

> I am making this donations because I own a small private animal clinic

> and preparing to pursue my studies in (Animal Transgenesis and Germ

> Cell Research).

>

> Are you familiar with these veterinary tools? give me a detailed

> information about your work and why you need the vehicle or the

> equipments listed above.

>

> Sincerely,

>

> Lucy Leigh

> (Dr.Vet.Med).

> Tel/Fax: (662) 292-2962-

>

> On 1/13/09, avis lyons

<avis<avis%40animalrescuekerala.org>>

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > avis lyons <iarkerala <iarkerala%40.co.uk>> wrote: Dear

> sir

> > This person was also in touch with us (Dr. Lucy Leigh) no money was sent

> > but I spent a great deal of time trying to find a way to get the van into

> > India,we tried to find out about the background of Lucy Leigh ,and

> decided

> > it could be a scam.

> > This happened to us a time back,in hindsite i should have made this

> > public,but i was not sure if it was a scam or not,and decided as i had no

> > proof not to make the issue public.

> > regards avis lyons www.animalrescuekerla.org

> > Merritt Clifton <anmlpepl <anmlpepl%40whidbey.com>> wrote:

> > From ANIMAL PEOPLE, December 2008:

> >

> > Letters

> >

> > Scams

> >

> > Concerning " Scams target adoptors &

> > humane societies, " in the October 2008 edition

> > of ANIMAL PEOPLE, the Soi Dog Foundation was

> > recently scammed out of over $1,400 through one

> > of the schemes you mentioned, " in which a

> > scammer pretends to be a veterinarian who is

> > going back to university, relocating, or

> > retiring, and offers to donate veterinary

> > equipment to a humane society that will cover the

> > transportation. "

> > We were introduced to the scammer by a

> > bona fide British charity, Wetnose Animal Aid,

> > who have donated to the Soi Dog Foundation in the

> > past, and were elaborately duped themselves.

> > Wetnose told me that they had been offered a

> > truck from a donor in Thailand who ran a clinic

> > there, but was returning to Britain. The

> > inference, I understood, was that the donor was

> > personally known to Wetnose.

> > If I would arrange the shipping, Wetnose

> > would give the vehicle to us. There was also an

> > ultrasound machine available.

> > When I told Wetnose that of course we

> > would be happy to have the vehicle, then they

> > wrote back to say that the van had now been given

> > away, but the ultrasound machine might still be

> > available, and the donor would contact me

> > directly. The donor claimed to have the

> > ultrasound and a portable autoclave in the

> > Philippines, providing all specifications for

> > the equipment, which could be sent to us if we

> > covered the shipping costs. We later found

> > exposés of this scheme online at

> > <www.jamesmaurer.com/veterinary-tools.asp> and

> > <www.project-honeypot.org/ip_58.64.60.38>.

> > Clearly from the honeypot report and

> > other links I have followed up on, this scammer

> > is targeting animal charities in different ways,

> > and under different names.

> > --John Dalley

> > Soi Dog Foundation,

> > c/o 57/61 Laguna Golf Villas

> > Moo 4, Srisoonthorn Road,

> > Choengthale,

> > Phuket 83110, Thailand

> > <dalleyj <dalleyj%40loxinfo.co.th>>

> > <www.soidogfoundation.org>

> >

> > Editor's note:

> >

> > John Dalley has investigative background,

> > and probably would not have been clipped if the

> > scam offer had not been forwarded by a legitimate

> > animal charity that he trusted. Wetnose Animal

> > Aid director Andrea Gamby-Boulger furnished a

> > copy of the original e-mail that fooled her,

> > from a " Lucy Leigh, " just one of many names of

> > alleged veterinarians that have been used with

> > this scheme. " I looked at her web site and read

> > up about her and asked her why was she giving up

> > her van, " wrote Gamby-Boulger. " No way in a

> > million years did I think this was a scam! I do

> > get scams that come in and normally you can check

> > them out and deal with them. This is obviously a

> > very clever one. We first offered the van to a

> > couple in the U.K. who rescue dogs in Greece.

> > They only turned it down because the engine was

> > too big and would be to expensive to fuel, but

> > they didn't suspect a scam either. I still can't

> > believe it! "

> >

> > --

> > Merritt Clifton

> > Editor, ANIMAL PEOPLE

> > P.O. Box 960

> > Clinton, WA 98236

> >

> > Telephone: 360-579-2505

> > Fax: 360-579-2575

> > E-mail: anmlpepl <anmlpepl%40whidbey.com>

> > Web: www.animalpeoplenews.org

> >

> > [ANIMAL PEOPLE is the leading independent

> > newspaper providing original investigative

> > coverage of animal protection worldwide, founded

> > in 1992. Our readership of 30,000-plus includes

> > the decision-makers at more than 10,000 animal

> > protection organizations. We have no alignment

> > or affiliation with any other entity. $24/year;

> > for free sample, send address.]

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Considering the fact that how much need exists for funds for animal welfare

activities globally.

I do not think an unknown email should be ignored just because of its

grammatical or vocabulary errors.

It is always safe to be skeptic, but no harm in reacting in a positive way

cautiously.

 

 

 

 

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Sonia Gibbon <sonia.gibbonwrote:

 

> Even if you dont recognise these type of things as scams, the spelling and

> grammar (or lack of) used are usually a give away.

>

> No one with a Western name like that, and an education like that, would

> send such a dreadful email.

>

>

>

> 2009/1/15 azam24x7 <azam24x7

>

>> Below is the original <Dr. Lucy Leigh> mail that found way on my inbox

>> as well sometime back.

>> Since I had no requirement for the equipment and vehicle offered hence

>> I forwarded this to an organisation which has been working for

>> destitute animals.

>> Smart spam this huh !

>>

>> Azam

>>

>> <>

>>

>> Lucy Leigh \(Dr.Vet.Med\) [lucy1<lucy1%40inMail24.com>

>> ]

>> 8/1/2008 1:49:05 PM

>> azamsiddiqui <azamsiddiqui%40animail.net>

>> Donation Inquiry.

>>

>> Goodday!

>>

>> I want to make a one-time non cash donation to a private organization

>> who may need a vehicle for transportation or a veterinary tech who may

>> the below tools.

>>

>> I am offering to give away 1 pre-owned GMC Van 2006 model and the

>> veterinary equipments below.

>>

>> 1 Medical Lighting

>> 2 Autoclaves

>> 1 Microscopes

>> 2 veterinary tables & Tubs.

>>

>> I am making this donations because I own a small private animal clinic

>> and preparing to pursue my studies in (Animal Transgenesis and Germ

>> Cell Research).

>>

>> Are you familiar with these veterinary tools? give me a detailed

>> information about your work and why you need the vehicle or the

>> equipments listed above.

>>

>> Sincerely,

>>

>> Lucy Leigh

>> (Dr.Vet.Med).

>> Tel/Fax: (662) 292-2962-

>>

>> On 1/13/09, avis lyons

<avis<avis%40animalrescuekerala.org>>

>> wrote:

>> >

>> >

>> > avis lyons <iarkerala <iarkerala%40.co.uk>> wrote:

>> Dear sir

>> > This person was also in touch with us (Dr. Lucy Leigh) no money was sent

>> > but I spent a great deal of time trying to find a way to get the van

>> into

>> > India,we tried to find out about the background of Lucy Leigh ,and

>> decided

>> > it could be a scam.

>> > This happened to us a time back,in hindsite i should have made this

>> > public,but i was not sure if it was a scam or not,and decided as i had

>> no

>> > proof not to make the issue public.

>> > regards avis lyons www.animalrescuekerla.org

>> > Merritt Clifton <anmlpepl <anmlpepl%40whidbey.com>> wrote:

>> > From ANIMAL PEOPLE, December 2008:

>> >

>> > Letters

>> >

>> > Scams

>> >

>> > Concerning " Scams target adoptors &

>> > humane societies, " in the October 2008 edition

>> > of ANIMAL PEOPLE, the Soi Dog Foundation was

>> > recently scammed out of over $1,400 through one

>> > of the schemes you mentioned, " in which a

>> > scammer pretends to be a veterinarian who is

>> > going back to university, relocating, or

>> > retiring, and offers to donate veterinary

>> > equipment to a humane society that will cover the

>> > transportation. "

>> > We were introduced to the scammer by a

>> > bona fide British charity, Wetnose Animal Aid,

>> > who have donated to the Soi Dog Foundation in the

>> > past, and were elaborately duped themselves.

>> > Wetnose told me that they had been offered a

>> > truck from a donor in Thailand who ran a clinic

>> > there, but was returning to Britain. The

>> > inference, I understood, was that the donor was

>> > personally known to Wetnose.

>> > If I would arrange the shipping, Wetnose

>> > would give the vehicle to us. There was also an

>> > ultrasound machine available.

>> > When I told Wetnose that of course we

>> > would be happy to have the vehicle, then they

>> > wrote back to say that the van had now been given

>> > away, but the ultrasound machine might still be

>> > available, and the donor would contact me

>> > directly. The donor claimed to have the

>> > ultrasound and a portable autoclave in the

>> > Philippines, providing all specifications for

>> > the equipment, which could be sent to us if we

>> > covered the shipping costs. We later found

>> > exposés of this scheme online at

>> > <www.jamesmaurer.com/veterinary-tools.asp> and

>> > <www.project-honeypot.org/ip_58.64.60.38>.

>> > Clearly from the honeypot report and

>> > other links I have followed up on, this scammer

>> > is targeting animal charities in different ways,

>> > and under different names.

>> > --John Dalley

>> > Soi Dog Foundation,

>> > c/o 57/61 Laguna Golf Villas

>> > Moo 4, Srisoonthorn Road,

>> > Choengthale,

>> > Phuket 83110, Thailand

>> > <dalleyj <dalleyj%40loxinfo.co.th>>

>> > <www.soidogfoundation.org>

>> >

>> > Editor's note:

>> >

>> > John Dalley has investigative background,

>> > and probably would not have been clipped if the

>> > scam offer had not been forwarded by a legitimate

>> > animal charity that he trusted. Wetnose Animal

>> > Aid director Andrea Gamby-Boulger furnished a

>> > copy of the original e-mail that fooled her,

>> > from a " Lucy Leigh, " just one of many names of

>> > alleged veterinarians that have been used with

>> > this scheme. " I looked at her web site and read

>> > up about her and asked her why was she giving up

>> > her van, " wrote Gamby-Boulger. " No way in a

>> > million years did I think this was a scam! I do

>> > get scams that come in and normally you can check

>> > them out and deal with them. This is obviously a

>> > very clever one. We first offered the van to a

>> > couple in the U.K. who rescue dogs in Greece.

>> > They only turned it down because the engine was

>> > too big and would be to expensive to fuel, but

>> > they didn't suspect a scam either. I still can't

>> > believe it! "

>> >

>> > --

>> > Merritt Clifton

>> > Editor, ANIMAL PEOPLE

>> > P.O. Box 960

>> > Clinton, WA 98236

>> >

>> > Telephone: 360-579-2505

>> > Fax: 360-579-2575

>> > E-mail: anmlpepl <anmlpepl%40whidbey.com>

>> > Web: www.animalpeoplenews.org

>> >

>> > [ANIMAL PEOPLE is the leading independent

>> > newspaper providing original investigative

>> > coverage of animal protection worldwide, founded

>> > in 1992. Our readership of 30,000-plus includes

>> > the decision-makers at more than 10,000 animal

>> > protection organizations. We have no alignment

>> > or affiliation with any other entity. $24/year;

>> > for free sample, send address.]

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

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yes - I have maintained contact with 'Lucy' as she told me we could have

her van - I was waiting to see how things worked out for us, before

finalizing, so we haven't started any negotiations about transport or

pick-up ... I had been wondering how we would transfer the papers, as

vehicles must generally be registered to a Thai name ...

 

i did also wonder how a woman with a western name had a vet clinic in

Thailand, but had presumed it would be through marriage ...

 

thanks all for bringing this to light - I'm sorry to hear Soi Dogs got

stung. So sad that people would cheat those who give so much of

themselves to help others ... I do always want to believe people are

good until proven otherwise: and even then I usually need a lot of proof!

 

shevaun

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