Vegetarian companion animals

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Has anyone here read (or even seen) Obligate Carnivore by Jed Gillen or

Vegetarian Cats & Dogs DVD-ROM by James A. Peden? Hope they are worth the

25$...these kinda websites just want to make me howl. For example, this

page, http://www.vegancats.com/can.php, has for the past 8 years been

³coming soon² and supposedly will answer the question we all seek: ³Can Cats

and Dogs be Vegan,² Well, don¹t hold ur breath.

Jigs in Nepal

 

 

On 12/29/08 2:13 PM, " megaenk " <megaenk wrote:

 

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> I think it's a bit late in the day to discuss 'owning' animals. Our

> ancestors domesticated cats and dogs, so we now must take care of them,

> hopefully to the best of our ability.

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> I find when people say that 'dogs are carnivores', it's the same

> argument that meat eaters use about resisting going vegetarian/vegan.

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> I've been a vegetarian for more than six years and have no side effects

> from my meatless diet. So while not all mammals are the same, with some

> effort, it's possible to have healthy cats and dogs on a meatless diet.

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> Please see one useful website about this: www.vegancats.com

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At 9:11 PM +0545 12/29/08, Herojig wrote:

>this page, http://www.vegancats.com/can.php, has for the past 8

>years been " coming soon " and supposedly will answer the question we

>all seek: " Can Catsand Dogs be Vegan, "

 

When the issue is a question of faith, a long wait is merely

a test of faith.

 

 

At 10:06 AM +0545 12/30/08, Herojig wrote:

>Merritt, where is the evidence one way or another? Surely we can dig

>that out and publish no? The rotting rat-infested corpse diets on

>the web are very compelling and detailed. The vegan new-age

>flute-music-for-dog sites are not.

 

To me, the most conclusive evidence about the appropriate

diet for dogs is to look at what dogs are actually eating, and have

been eating for the duration of recorded history.

 

There are currently about 6.7 billion people in the world,

and about 500 million dogs. Of these 500 million dogs, about

two-thirds live directly on rats and refuse. About one third consume

canned food and/or kibble made from materials which in other

societies would be mostly discarded in places accessible to dogs.

 

The number of vegan dogs could probably all fit into Chinny

Krishna's yard, but for those who have never visited his home, he

does have a yard somewhat larger than hell's half acre.

 

The number of humans who are alive today may be approximately

equal to the sum of all humans who are deceased, in reflection of

the rapid rise in human population during the past century.

 

Since the number of dogs sharing human society is governed

chiefly by the abundance of rats and refuse generated by human waste

disposal habits, since the average life span of a dog who isn't

picked up by animal control tends to be about 10% of the average life

span of a human in any given society, and since the canned dog food

and kibble industries are less than 100 years old, it is reasonable

to surmise that the total number of dogs who have lived among humans

eating rats and refuse is about 8 billion.

 

The total number of dogs who have thrived on canned food or

kibble is about 1.7 billion.

 

The total number of vegan dogs might fill Chinny Krishna's

yard plus all of the facilities and grounds of the Blue Cross of

India, which operates four spacious compounds in the greater Chennai

area.

 

While the vegan dogs might all be & always have been very

healthy and well-looked-after dogs, their numbers have always been

so few that even if they had not all been sterilized and had all

raised vegan offspring, they would still be so scarce relative to

the total population of dogs as to have no visible influence on the

survival of the species.

 

The dog population as human civilization has always known it

has survived and thrived because rats and refuse, either found at

large or replicated in cans & kibble, are a diet conducive to canine

reproductive success.

 

 

 

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