Animal Welfare Network Nepal RE: CITES and the monkeys

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How many times have I heard that one: ³We can¹t do anything without

³fill_in_the_blank_NGO² HQ does something, like sign the requisition form or

get approval from the board. And in this case, it¹s more then just plain

bureaucratic bullshit, its a case of species-specific racism. Meanwhile,

animals are being prepared for torture and dissection...

Jigs

 

 

On 1/31/09 3:52 AM, " Mandy Lamkin | Enrich Australia "

<mlamkin wrote:

 

> While the other points in the letter are certainly valid without question,

> CITES HQ can't do anything unless the issue involves a CITES-listed animal -

> that's their agenda and jurisdiction, a position proved in the past to be a

> thorn in the side of both parties in the battle for animal

> welfare/conservation.

>

> Perhaps it could be applied to have the monkeys a listed species - for now

> this will take too long, but there could be some kind of interim measure which

> would allow a temporary freeze on export.

>

> Your other choice is to focus all energy on the violation of national Nepali

> law - and supply the government officials with ways they and the government

> can save its international face on this issue.

>

> Good luck - you have my prayers as usual

> Mandy

>

>

>

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> awnn (AT) googl (DOT) com [awnn (AT) googl (DOT) com] On Behalf Of lucia

> de vries

> Friday, 30 January 2009 11:50 PM

> awnn (AT) googl (DOT) com

> Animal Welfare Network Nepal Re: Fwd: To Mr Wijnstekers and Sellar

>

> I don't know what local CITES rep Jiggy is talking about...the govenment

> itself (Dep of Wildlife) is the CITES rep. Pls find letter to CITES from AWNN

> attached.

>

> We did indeed not specify the exact provisions that are violated and need to

> send them a follow up on this.

>

> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Mandy Lamkin | Enrich Australia

> <mlamkin wrote:

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>> Yes siree ... welcome to planet CITES!

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>> The Directors of Humane Society Int'l are fairly up to date on this stuff so

>> could offer some advice.

>>

>> What we need is a copy of the full script of the original objection from the

>> local CITES rep. if such a thing exists - which it hopefully does.

>>

>>

>>

>> Mandy

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>> awnn (AT) googl (DOT) com [awnn (AT) googl (DOT) com] On Behalf Of

>> Herojig

>> Tuesday, 20 January 2009 8:35 PM

>> awnn (AT) googl (DOT) com; AAPN List

>> Cc: willem.wijnstekers; stopmonkeybusiness;

>> john.sellar

>> Animal Welfare Network Nepal Re: Fwd: To Mr Wijnstekers and Sellar

>>

>>

>> Whoa, now wait a minute here. It was the local CITIES rep that got this all

>> started in the first place. What kinda crap is this? If the " Convention "

>> allows for the export of " this species " of monkey to US Labs for dissection

>> and torture, then what good is it? Somebody should look closely at a

>> convention that has that kinda loophole. This all looks like the familiar

>> African Ivory doublespeak that comes outta CITES, and all should be aware of

>> this donkey dung and let them know about it.

>> Jigs in Nepal

>>

>> On 1/30/09 2:58 PM, " Lucia De Vries " <luciadevries

>> <http://luciadevries > > wrote:

>>

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>>>

>>>

>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------

>>> John SELLAR <John.Sellar <http://John.Sellar (AT) cites (DOT) org> >

>>> Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 2:49 PM

>>> Re: To Mr Wijnstekers and Sellar

>>> stopmonkeybusiness <http://stopmonkeybusiness >

>>> Cc: willem.wijnstekers <http://willem.wijnstekers (AT) cites (DOT) org>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Dear Manoj Gautam and Pramada Shah,

>>>

>>> Thank you for your letter regarding the export of monkeys from Nepal.

>>>

>>> This appears to be primarily a matter of domestic policy for the Government

>>> of Nepal, since this species of monkey can be traded internationally if the

>>> provisions of the Convention are complied with. It is not clear from your

>>> letter what aspect of the Convention is not being complied with.

>>>

>>> However, we are sending a copy of your letter to the CITES authorities in

>>> Nepal for their comments. We are, of course, anxious to ensure that CITES

>>> is not being violated.

>>>

>>> Thank you for bringing this matter to our attention.

>>>

>>> Yours sincerely,

>>>

>>>

>>> John M. Sellar

>>> Senior Officer/Chargé/Oficial Superior

>>> Anti-smuggling, Fraud and Organized Crime/Lutte contre la contrabande, la

>>> fraude et le crime organisé/Anticontrabando, Fraude y Delincuencia

>>> Organizada

>>> Office of the Secretary-General/Bureau du Secrétaire general/Oficina del

>>> Secretario general

>>> CITES Secretariat

>>> International Environment House

>>> 11-13 chemin des Anemones

>>> 1219 Chatelaine-Geneva

>>> Switzerland

>>> Tel: +41 (0) 22 917 82 93

>>> Fax: +41 (0) 22 797 34 17

>>> Email: john.sellar <http://john.sellar (AT) cites (DOT) org>

>>> Web: www.cites.org <http://www.cites.org> <http://www.cites.org>

>>>

>>> The information contained in this email may be confidential, and is

>>> intended only for the use of the individual or organization named above. If

>>> the reader of this email is not the intended recipient, please notify the

>>> Secretariat as soon as possible.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> SMB Coalition <stopmonkeybusiness

>>> <http://stopmonkeybusiness > > 01/30/2009 07:50 AM

>>> To

>>>

>>>

>>> willem.wijnstekers <http://willem.wijnstekers (AT) cites (DOT) org> ,

>>> john.sellar <http://john.sellar (AT) cites (DOT) org>

>>>

>>> cc

>>> Subject

>>>

>>>

>>> To Mr Wijnstekers and Sellar

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Dear Mr Wijnstekers and Sellar,

>>>

>>> We, a coalition of animal welfare and animal rights organisations from

>>> Nepal, are very concerned about the planned export of rhesus monkeys from

>>> our country to US biomedical primate research centers. We request you to

>>> investigate this matter and hold our government, a CITES signatory,

>>> accountable.

>>>

>>> Please find our communication attached.

>>>

>>> On behalf of Animal Welfare Network Nepal and Stop Monkey Business

>>> Campaign,

>>>

>>> Manoj Gautam

>>> Pramada Shah

>>>

>>> -- Paul Reitman, CEO

>>> Phoenix Studios Nepal

>>> Mobile: 9841589797

>>>

>>> www.phoenixstudios.com.np/corporate

>>> <http://www.phoenixstudios.com.np/corporate>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> -- Paul Reitman, CEO

>>> Phoenix Studios Nepal

>>> Mobile: 9841589797

>>>

>>> www.phoenixstudios.com.np/corporate

>>>

>>>