Guest guest Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 Marianne Westermark [mawe] Saturday, April 03, 2010 8:32 PM info Regarding animal mistreating in HCMC, Vietnam Hello My name is Marianne. I have a question. I walked through a street today, in HCMC, in District 1. In a small street, I passed an animal shop where they sell Animal-food. I saw in the corner of my eye, a puppy laying on a table, with all paws bound to 4 corners of the table, so the dog couldnt move. The puppy writhed from side to side in a panic way, an the rope cut into the paws. I went back to see what was going on. 2 women at the shop and they could not speak english so I tried to say (with body-language) that they had to let go of the puppy. No one understood, and I had to go. What can I do? The address for the animal shop (Phong Kham thu y tan dinh) is this: Ba Le Chan Street, Tan Dinh Ward, Dist 1, HCMC I could not see the number of the shop, but the shop next to (Left side) has the number 12. Who can follow up on this? Can you help me with that question? Best Regards Marianne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 >My name is Marianne. I have a question. I walked through a street >today, in HCMC, in District 1. In a small street, I passed an animal >shop where they sell Animal-food. I saw in the corner of my eye, a >puppy laying on a table, with all paws bound to 4 corners of the >table, so the dog couldnt move. The puppy writhed from side to side >in a panic way, an the rope cut into the paws. I went back to >see what was going on. The puppy may have been tied in that manner for tail-docking or ear-cropping, which is of course quite inhumane and should be illegal, or in preparation for sterilization by someone who does not know how to properly anesthetize and restrain a dog during surgery. The puppy also might have been tied for fur-dying, a common cosmetic procedure in much of Asia, though very much in disrepute in the west. However, dogs are commonly eaten in Vietnam, though more in the north than in the south, and the Vietnamese who eat dogs preferentially eat puppies rather than adult dogs. Thus it is possible that this puppy was about to be killed for food. The most common method of killing dogs for butchery these days is electrocution. Usually the dog is restrained before being jabbed with a 220-volt electrode. -- Merritt Clifton Editor, ANIMAL PEOPLE P.O. Box 960 Clinton, WA 98236 Telephone: 360-579-2505 Fax: 360-579-2575 E-mail: anmlpepl Web: www.animalpeoplenews.org [Your donations help to support ANIMAL PEOPLE, the leading independent nonprofit newspaper providing original investigative coverage of animal protection worldwide, founded in 1992. Our global readership includes the decision-makers at more than 10,000 animal protection organizations. We have no alignment or affiliation with any other entity. Free online; $24/year by post; for free sample, please send postal address.] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 To add to Merritt's summary, in the north - Hanoi - the dogs are predominantly ten months to a year and are killed by first being bludgeoned over the head by a heavy hammer, rendered unconscious and then immediately " bled out " with a knife into the neck through the jugular and down into the heart. It is brutal and bloody but mercifully quick. Perhaps the worst aspect is that this is carried out in full view of the other dogs waiting their turn. * Jill Robinson MBE * Founder & CEO Animals Asia Foundation Find out about our latest moon bear rescue in Chengdu, China and Friends....or Food: http://www.animalsasia.org/ Click here <https://www.animalsasia.org/shop/> to visit our Gift Shop. Merritt Clifton wrote: > > >My name is Marianne. I have a question. I walked through a street > >today, in HCMC, in District 1. In a small street, I passed an animal > >shop where they sell Animal-food. I saw in the corner of my eye, a > >puppy laying on a table, with all paws bound to 4 corners of the > >table, so the dog couldnt move. The puppy writhed from side to side > >in a panic way, an the rope cut into the paws. I went back to > >see what was going on. > > The puppy may have been tied in that manner for tail-docking > or ear-cropping, which is of course quite inhumane and should be > illegal, or in preparation for sterilization by someone who does not > know how to properly anesthetize and restrain a dog during surgery. > > The puppy also might have been tied for fur-dying, a common > cosmetic procedure in much of Asia, though very much in disrepute in > the west. > > However, dogs are commonly eaten in Vietnam, though more in > the north than in the south, and the Vietnamese who eat dogs > preferentially eat puppies rather than adult dogs. Thus it is > possible that this puppy was about to be killed for food. > > The most common method of killing dogs for butchery these > days is electrocution. Usually the dog is restrained before being > jabbed with a 220-volt electrode. > > -- > Merritt Clifton > Editor, ANIMAL PEOPLE > P.O. Box 960 > Clinton, WA 98236 > > Telephone: 360-579-2505 > Fax: 360-579-2575 > E-mail: anmlpepl <anmlpepl%40whidbey.com> > Web: www.animalpeoplenews.org > > [Your donations help to support ANIMAL PEOPLE, the leading > independent nonprofit newspaper providing original investigative > coverage of animal protection worldwide, founded in 1992. Our > global readership includes the decision-makers at more than 10,000 > animal protection organizations. We have no alignment or affiliation > with any other entity. Free online; $24/year by post; for free > sample, please send postal address.] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 Has anyone else read reports that over 10,000 dogs a month are smuggled across the Thai border into Laos as part of a dog-meat mafia operation? Is this true? I read an article on Thai Visa forum (not a very accurate source of info) but can't find it now, where there was a report that an estimated 1000 stray dogs or more are taken from just one point in Thailand for import into other parts of Asia with consumption being the end goal. If this is true, it seems to me this activity would have to be stopped first, before incidents such as the one below could be efficiently prevented. I was going to ask Merritt if this was even possible, ie. are there even over 300,000+ stray dogs (per year) in the hinterlands of Thailand that can be rounded up to be made into McPuppy burgers? Apparently this is a multi-million dollar business that has been going on for some time now. More info needed... Jigs in Nepal On Apr 4, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Jill Robinson wrote: > To add to Merritt's summary, in the north - Hanoi - the dogs are > predominantly ten months to a year and are killed by first being > bludgeoned over the head by a heavy hammer, rendered unconscious and > then immediately " bled out " with a knife into the neck through the > jugular and down into the heart. It is brutal and bloody but mercifully > quick. Perhaps the worst aspect is that this is carried out in full view > of the other dogs waiting their turn. > * > Jill Robinson MBE * > Founder & CEO > Animals Asia Foundation > > > Find out about our latest moon bear rescue in Chengdu, China and > Friends....or Food: http://www.animalsasia.org/ > > Click here <https://www.animalsasia.org/shop/> to visit our Gift Shop. > > > > Merritt Clifton wrote: >> >>> My name is Marianne. I have a question. I walked through a street >>> today, in HCMC, in District 1. In a small street, I passed an animal >>> shop where they sell Animal-food. I saw in the corner of my eye, a >>> puppy laying on a table, with all paws bound to 4 corners of the >>> table, so the dog couldnt move. The puppy writhed from side to side >>> in a panic way, an the rope cut into the paws. I went back to >>> see what was going on. >> >> The puppy may have been tied in that manner for tail-docking >> or ear-cropping, which is of course quite inhumane and should be >> illegal, or in preparation for sterilization by someone who does not >> know how to properly anesthetize and restrain a dog during surgery. >> >> The puppy also might have been tied for fur-dying, a common >> cosmetic procedure in much of Asia, though very much in disrepute in >> the west. >> >> However, dogs are commonly eaten in Vietnam, though more in >> the north than in the south, and the Vietnamese who eat dogs >> preferentially eat puppies rather than adult dogs. Thus it is >> possible that this puppy was about to be killed for food. >> >> The most common method of killing dogs for butchery these >> days is electrocution. Usually the dog is restrained before being >> jabbed with a 220-volt electrode. >> >> -- >> Merritt Clifton >> Editor, ANIMAL PEOPLE >> P.O. Box 960 >> Clinton, WA 98236 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 Bangkok Post October 01, 2007 MAN'S BEST FRIEND? Microchips are just the latest of the city's many efforts to control the problem of stray dogs Story by PENCHAN CHAROENSUTHIPAN A dog is man's best friend, as the saying goes. But if so, why are so many of these adorable best friends abandoned by their owners and left to roam the streets in hungry misery? At worst, they end up as a culinary delight at restaurants in neighbouring countries. Bangkok is a city crowded with stray dogs; 120,000 or more wander the temples, schools, markets and streets. Every city in Thailand has its strays, with the total number estimated at one million nationwide. City Hall has tried a variety of means to curb their numbers, including rounding them up and putting them in dog shelters, spaying them and, most recently, the controversial mandatory microchipping of pet dogs. Implanting a microchip between a pet dog's shoulders means the owner can be identified if the animal is dumped and left abandoned in the streets, and appropriate punishment can be meted out. At least, that is the theory. The revival of the microchip implantation scheme brings back memories of the city's previous efforts to make Bangkok a city free of strays. One of the most controversial was the massive round-up of stray dogs ahead of the 2003 Apec forum. In a bid to impress the VIPs attending the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (Apec) summit that October, thousands of wandering street dogs were removed from the cityscape almost overnight. The dog clearance operation was highly controversial at the time and pet lovers have heard little since about what became of the " Apec dogs " . Today, these pooches are still being kept in dog shelters inside the Livestock Development Department's animal quarantine stations in Phetchaburi and Sa Kaeo provinces. But they are not alone. The department has also been asked to care for dogs rescued from dog traffickers. The Thai Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (TSPCA) recently made a visit to the department's dog shelter in Phetchaburi, and found out that the cost of caring for these animals and providing them with food and medicine is placing a severe strain on its budget. There are about 100 dogs at this particular shelter at the moment, and there is a dire need for philanthropic support in paying the bills. Lack of funds and the increasing number of dogs being delivered to the shelter have put a heavy burden on livestock employees, who have to find the time to care for these adopted animals in between their normal duties at the quarantine station. Most of the newcomers are not city strays, but animals rescued from dog traffickers en route to restaurant tables in neighbouring countries. These ill-fated canines, and not all of them are strays, are worth 300 and 500 baht each in Thailand, but the price skyrockets in the destination countries. A plump canine can fetch as much as 2,500 baht in Vietnam, where cooked dog meat is a specialty on the menu. An all-black dog has even higher value and can fetch as much as 4,500 baht, according to Nirundorn Aungtragoolsuk, director of the livestock disease control and veterinary services bureau. Vietnam, where dog meat is believed to have aphrodisiacal properties, is the largest market, along with Laos and China, said Mr Nirundorn. " We estimate that 7,000 to 8,000 dogs are exported to neighbouring countries each month, or nearly 100,000 a year, " he said. " Not surprisingly, the gangs that deal in these dogs make a lot of money. " There is no specific law to control dog meat consumption and the export of dogs, he said. TSPCA secretary-general Sawan Saengbanlung said even if no law actually bans eating dog meat, Article 381 of the Criminal Code specifies that any person who inflicts cruelty on an animal is liable to a 1,000-baht fine or a month in jail. In reality, however, the law had no effect at all because the law enforcers did not take the issue seriously, he said. Mr Sawan said the Livestock Development Department and 32 other animal advocacy groups have been drafting a bill on animal welfare protection. Apart from a prohibition on animal mistreatment, the bill would also guarantee protection for the welfare of domesticated animals. Mr Sawan says he expects the bill will also provide answers for exasperating problems such as the management of the ever-increasing number of stray animals. http://www.bangkokpost.com/News/01Oct2007_news20.php <http://www.bangkokpost.com/News/01Oct2007_news20.php> herojig (Gmail) wrote: > > Has anyone else read reports that over 10,000 dogs a month are > smuggled across the Thai border into Laos as part of a dog-meat mafia > operation? Is this true? I read an article on Thai Visa forum (not a > very accurate source of info) but can't find it now, where there was a > report that an estimated 1000 stray dogs or more are taken from just > one point in Thailand for import into other parts of Asia with > consumption being the end goal. If this is true, it seems to me this > activity would have to be stopped first, before incidents such as the > one below could be efficiently prevented. I was going to ask Merritt > if this was even possible, ie. are there even over 300,000+ stray dogs > (per year) in the hinterlands of Thailand that can be rounded up to be > made into McPuppy burgers? Apparently this is a multi-million dollar > business that has been going on for some time now. More info needed... > Jigs in Nepal > > On Apr 4, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Jill Robinson wrote: > > > To add to Merritt's summary, in the north - Hanoi - the dogs are > > predominantly ten months to a year and are killed by first being > > bludgeoned over the head by a heavy hammer, rendered unconscious and > > then immediately " bled out " with a knife into the neck through the > > jugular and down into the heart. It is brutal and bloody but mercifully > > quick. Perhaps the worst aspect is that this is carried out in full > view > > of the other dogs waiting their turn. > > * > > Jill Robinson MBE * > > Founder & CEO > > Animals Asia Foundation > > > > > > Find out about our latest moon bear rescue in Chengdu, China and > > Friends....or Food: http://www.animalsasia.org/ > <http://www.animalsasia.org/> > > > > Click here <https://www.animalsasia.org/shop/ > <https://www.animalsasia.org/shop/>> to visit our Gift Shop. > > > > > > > > Merritt Clifton wrote: > >> > >>> My name is Marianne. I have a question. I walked through a street > >>> today, in HCMC, in District 1. In a small street, I passed an animal > >>> shop where they sell Animal-food. I saw in the corner of my eye, a > >>> puppy laying on a table, with all paws bound to 4 corners of the > >>> table, so the dog couldnt move. The puppy writhed from side to side > >>> in a panic way, an the rope cut into the paws. I went back to > >>> see what was going on. > >> > >> The puppy may have been tied in that manner for tail-docking > >> or ear-cropping, which is of course quite inhumane and should be > >> illegal, or in preparation for sterilization by someone who does not > >> know how to properly anesthetize and restrain a dog during surgery. > >> > >> The puppy also might have been tied for fur-dying, a common > >> cosmetic procedure in much of Asia, though very much in disrepute in > >> the west. > >> > >> However, dogs are commonly eaten in Vietnam, though more in > >> the north than in the south, and the Vietnamese who eat dogs > >> preferentially eat puppies rather than adult dogs. Thus it is > >> possible that this puppy was about to be killed for food. > >> > >> The most common method of killing dogs for butchery these > >> days is electrocution. Usually the dog is restrained before being > >> jabbed with a 220-volt electrode. > >> > >> -- > >> Merritt Clifton > >> Editor, ANIMAL PEOPLE > >> P.O. Box 960 > >> Clinton, WA 98236 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2010 Report Share Posted April 4, 2010 >Has anyone else read reports that over 10,000 dogs a month are >smuggled across the Thai border into Laos as part of a dog-meat >mafia operation? Is this true?...I was going to ask Merritt if this >was even possible, ie. are there even over 300,000+ stray dogs (per >year) in the hinterlands of Thailand that can be rounded up to be >made into McPuppy burgers? ANIMAL PEOPLE has been reporting about this traffic from time to time for years. Several examples that tend to affirm the Global Post and Bangkok Post exposes of recent days will follow. -- Merritt Clifton Editor, ANIMAL PEOPLE P.O. Box 960 Clinton, WA 98236 Telephone: 360-579-2505 Fax: 360-579-2575 E-mail: anmlpepl Web: www.animalpeoplenews.org [Your donations help to support ANIMAL PEOPLE, the leading independent nonprofit newspaper providing original investigative coverage of animal protection worldwide, founded in 1992. Our global readership includes the decision-makers at more than 10,000 animal protection organizations. We have no alignment or affiliation with any other entity. Free online; $24/year by post; for free sample, please send postal address.] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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