Guest guest Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 It is true. The guy with the t-shirt said it was directed to the famous group PXXX, after I said I was vegetarian, but it didn't change how he feels. He raises cows. I live in cow country, so maybe it is different, but we have so many vegetarians even so, so many caring, nice, understanding people who are also vegetarian and ones who are also meat eaters. I live in a town with congenial people for the most part. The people who do these things are not ignorant. I am not sure why the do the things they do. It is as if they think someone is going to force them to give up their meat. chico_trucker <chico_trucker Monday, October 13, 2008 8:18:08 PM Ellen- vegetarians and non-vegetarians I always talk with people who have an attitude regarding vegetarians. Most have run into a rude animal activist along the way or they don't understand vegetarianism and think we are a cult. If you talk nicely with them they seem to simmer down and listen. People always pick on something they don't understand. It could be fear. Chico , Ellen OConnor <llamalass@. ..> wrote: > > In my experience, vegetarians are demeaned. They do get sick if someone slip them meat because they are not used to eating that. Just the other day, someone had a derogatory Vegetarian t-shirt. All I saw was VEGETARIAN. I happily said, " Are you vegetarian? " Then, he told me what his shirt had said. I told him I was vegetarian. People have given my brother meat hamburger when he has ordered veggie burgers. I find myself checking that. It probably isn't alot of people, but the people that do it are noticable even after all these years with so many of us out there! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 I've been picking brains for years. Most of the defensive non-veg people end up vegetarian. Many of the other defensive individuals have run into activists or a rude vegetarian who has annoyed them with, Eeewww you are wearing leather, how can you dare eat a poor animal, on and on. They best thing you can do is offer good vegetarian food at parties, picnics, BBQ's, potlucks, holidays. You can not force your lifestyle on another. It will not work, it makes them defensive and with that comes rude comments. Don't even ardue with them, they love that. Come right out and say, I do this for myself, you eat what you like and we will get along just fine. You will be surprised how they will come back later for a recipe, or a question about their health or lab results, etc. Donna --- On Mon, 10/13/08, Ellen OConnor <llamalass wrote: Ellen OConnor <llamalass Re: Ellen- vegetarians and non-vegetarians Monday, October 13, 2008, 8:42 PM It is true. The guy with the t-shirt said it was directed to the famous group PXXX, after I said I was vegetarian, but it didn't change how he feels. He raises cows. I live in cow country, so maybe it is different, but we have so many vegetarians even so, so many caring, nice, understanding people who are also vegetarian and ones who are also meat eaters. I live in a town with congenial people for the most part. The people who do these things are not ignorant. I am not sure why the do the things they do. It is as if they think someone is going to force them to give up their meat. chico_trucker <chico_trucker@ > Monday, October 13, 2008 8:18:08 PM [vegetarian_ group] Ellen- vegetarians and non-vegetarians I always talk with people who have an attitude regarding vegetarians. Most have run into a rude animal activist along the way or they don't understand vegetarianism and think we are a cult. If you talk nicely with them they seem to simmer down and listen. People always pick on something they don't understand. It could be fear. Chico , Ellen OConnor <llamalass@. ..> wrote: > > In my experience, vegetarians are demeaned. They do get sick if someone slip them meat because they are not used to eating that. Just the other day, someone had a derogatory Vegetarian t-shirt. All I saw was VEGETARIAN. I happily said, " Are you vegetarian? " Then, he told me what his shirt had said. I told him I was vegetarian. People have given my brother meat hamburger when he has ordered veggie burgers. I find myself checking that. It probably isn't alot of people, but the people that do it are noticable even after all these years with so many of us out there! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 I agree with the fact that these people really do think that as vegetarians it's our job to " convert " them. I made my decision almost 2 moths ago (so I'm new at this) and already, several people assume, I have taken it upon myself to change them. Like I said, I'm new at this and I can say that it has been very easy, and a really sweet adventure. I look at all of the nice people I've met in this group and I really do feel blessed. I'd like to thank all of you for being so supportive and making the transition so easy. All of your experiences and journeys have helped me so much. Thank you. Melinda On Behalf Of Ellen OConnor Monday, October 13, 2008 10:42 PM Re: Ellen- vegetarians and non-vegetarians It is true. The guy with the t-shirt said it was directed to the famous group PXXX, after I said I was vegetarian, but it didn't change how he feels. He raises cows. I live in cow country, so maybe it is different, but we have so many vegetarians even so, so many caring, nice, understanding people who are also vegetarian and ones who are also meat eaters. I live in a town with congenial people for the most part. The people who do these things are not ignorant. I am not sure why the do the things they do. It is as if they think someone is going to force them to give up their meat. chico_trucker <chico_trucker <chico_trucker%40> > <%40> Monday, October 13, 2008 8:18:08 PM Ellen- vegetarians and non-vegetarians I always talk with people who have an attitude regarding vegetarians. Most have run into a rude animal activist along the way or they don't understand vegetarianism and think we are a cult. If you talk nicely with them they seem to simmer down and listen. People always pick on something they don't understand. It could be fear. Chico , Ellen OConnor <llamalass@. ..> wrote: > > In my experience, vegetarians are demeaned. They do get sick if someone slip them meat because they are not used to eating that. Just the other day, someone had a derogatory Vegetarian t-shirt. All I saw was VEGETARIAN. I happily said, " Are you vegetarian? " Then, he told me what his shirt had said. I told him I was vegetarian. People have given my brother meat hamburger when he has ordered veggie burgers. I find myself checking that. It probably isn't alot of people, but the people that do it are noticable even after all these years with so many of us out there! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 It is as if the life choice you make to become a vegetarian is the afront. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 There are so many interesting foods to try. I am new to this group and I have enjoyed it too. I also feel blessed. Mel <sylkwood Monday, October 13, 2008 8:56:05 PM RE: Ellen- vegetarians and non-vegetarians I agree with the fact that these people really do think that as vegetarians it's our job to " convert " them. I made my decision almost 2 moths ago (so I'm new at this) and already, several people assume, I have taken it upon myself to change them. Like I said, I'm new at this and I can say that it has been very easy, and a really sweet adventure. I look at all of the nice people I've met in this group and I really do feel blessed. I'd like to thank all of you for being so supportive and making the transition so easy. All of your experiences and journeys have helped me so much. Thank you. Melinda [] On Behalf Of Ellen OConnor Monday, October 13, 2008 10:42 PM Re: [vegetarian_ group] Ellen- vegetarians and non-vegetarians It is true. The guy with the t-shirt said it was directed to the famous group PXXX, after I said I was vegetarian, but it didn't change how he feels. He raises cows. I live in cow country, so maybe it is different, but we have so many vegetarians even so, so many caring, nice, understanding people who are also vegetarian and ones who are also meat eaters. I live in a town with congenial people for the most part. The people who do these things are not ignorant. I am not sure why the do the things they do. It is as if they think someone is going to force them to give up their meat. chico_trucker <chico_trucker@ <chico_ trucker%40. com> > <vegetarian_ group%40gro ups.com> Monday, October 13, 2008 8:18:08 PM [vegetarian_ group] Ellen- vegetarians and non-vegetarians I always talk with people who have an attitude regarding vegetarians. Most have run into a rude animal activist along the way or they don't understand vegetarianism and think we are a cult. If you talk nicely with them they seem to simmer down and listen. People always pick on something they don't understand. It could be fear. Chico , Ellen OConnor <llamalass@. ..> wrote: > > In my experience, vegetarians are demeaned. They do get sick if someone slip them meat because they are not used to eating that. Just the other day, someone had a derogatory Vegetarian t-shirt. All I saw was VEGETARIAN. I happily said, " Are you vegetarian? " Then, he told me what his shirt had said. I told him I was vegetarian. People have given my brother meat hamburger when he has ordered veggie burgers. I find myself checking that. It probably isn't alot of people, but the people that do it are noticable even after all these years with so many of us out there! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 I don't push my beliefs on people.Most people I know are surprised to find out that I am vegetarian. When someone who knows me asks how I stay slim and that I look healthy then I tell them about my diet. Not in detail though. I agree with another post about being easier to be a Vegetarian now. With dinner invitations I just let people know what I eat. Best thing to do when going out is either bring something with you or eat before you get there. No sense arguing the point. If someone wants to lead a certain life they will. I get more hatred towards me when I tell people my dog is 90 percent vegan. Eats the same things I do. He only gets meat type product in his dry food once a day. According to the vet he is healthier than most dogs half his age. , " Mel " <sylkwood wrote: > > I agree with the fact that these people really do think that as vegetarians > it's our job to " convert " them. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 I know some people who are vegetarians, vegans, and meat-eater, like I do eat chicken, fish, and turkey, I was on a vegan diet while I was in prison, but I had to take B12 vitamin cause vegans lack it in their diet, I can eat at a vegetarian's house, in fact I can cook for vegetarians also. I met some vegetarians that I wouldn't speak to again cause I eat meat, and I know some people want to know why I am in this group, I was on a vegan diet and I don't hate anyone for being a vegan. Dread Life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 Melinda, I'm also new to this. I became a vegetarian on July 1st, while taking a road trip to Texas, barbecue country. I think I'm probably the only vegetarian in my small town in KY. It hasn't really been a problem for me. I find I don't get as hungry either; and it seems much easier for me to skip meals and feel perfectly satisfied. For lots of years I've always leaned in this direction not being much of a meat eater anyway. Yesterday I had a friend over for lunch. I served quiche and salad, only eating the salad myself because I used eggs in the quiche. I also made eggs for my husband this morning for breakfast. I get the organic, free range ones; but still don't eat them. I do eat cheese and dairy though. I probably would be better healthwise if I could go vegan; but, I'm not quite ready for that one yet. My friend did say at lunch that I didn't know what I was missing by not eating the quiche. I said yes I do. I've only been vegetarian since July 1st. I do have to give up a lot of deserts because eggs are in almost all of them. That, however, means less sugar which is healthier. I've been getting organic sugar as well for when I use it at home. In spite of all this healthier buying, plus raising some of our own food and buying off our local organic farmer (he's not vegetarian), I save money on groceries. I do find that my taste is literally changing. Anything that contains corn syrup is harder and harder for me. My husband, non-vegetarian, is really great in supporting me. He gets his meat when we eat out or when he buys lunches at work, when I don't pack them for him. I've also been changing over my make-up to vegan approved. I'm working on all this taking baby steps. I still carry a leather purse - but I keep a purse for 10 years or more. I just got some earth - vegan shoes. My next pair of shoes will also be of that variety. Just rambling about all this. Thanks, Jerri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 Your husband is a blessing! Jerri Schlenker <jerrischlenker Wednesday, October 15, 2008 12:46:11 PM Re: Ellen- vegetarians and non-vegetarians Melinda, I'm also new to this. I became a vegetarian on July 1st, while taking a road trip to Texas, barbecue country. I think I'm probably the only vegetarian in my small town in KY. It hasn't really been a problem for me. I find I don't get as hungry either; and it seems much easier for me to skip meals and feel perfectly satisfied. For lots of years I've always leaned in this direction not being much of a meat eater anyway. Yesterday I had a friend over for lunch. I served quiche and salad, only eating the salad myself because I used eggs in the quiche. I also made eggs for my husband this morning for breakfast. I get the organic, free range ones; but still don't eat them. I do eat cheese and dairy though. I probably would be better healthwise if I could go vegan; but, I'm not quite ready for that one yet. My friend did say at lunch that I didn't know what I was missing by not eating the quiche. I said yes I do. I've only been vegetarian since July 1st. I do have to give up a lot of deserts because eggs are in almost all of them. That, however, means less sugar which is healthier. I've been getting organic sugar as well for when I use it at home. In spite of all this healthier buying, plus raising some of our own food and buying off our local organic farmer (he's not vegetarian), I save money on groceries. I do find that my taste is literally changing. Anything that contains corn syrup is harder and harder for me. My husband, non-vegetarian, is really great in supporting me. He gets his meat when we eat out or when he buys lunches at work, when I don't pack them for him. I've also been changing over my make-up to vegan approved. I'm working on all this taking baby steps. I still carry a leather purse - but I keep a purse for 10 years or more. I just got some earth - vegan shoes. My next pair of shoes will also be of that variety. Just rambling about all this. Thanks, Jerri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Ellen, yes he is in lots of ways. Thank you for saying so. I do try to be more resourceful and fresh with ideas for meals. I think that probably comes naturally with being vegetarian. It's really a whole new learning experience in both food and cooking as well as in products. You really can't afford to get in a rut eating this way or it won't work. Jerri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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