problems eating out

[Guest guest]

I don't think a vegetarian dish would work if you are not a vegetarian.

Lets face it, it would not be a " great " dinner.

 

However, a spinach salad would seem OK and she could have what she wanted.

Perhaps she does not want him to eat vegetarian

 

 

[Guest guest]

Yes it is  a problem eating out my veggie diet is to help me reduce my blood

pressure and cholesterol.  My problem tonight was  wife asked if we could eat

out Saturday night at a really nice resturaunt and i said sure i can have their

spinach salad .     This didn't go well with her.     She said that she thought

i could order something else. Then said we didn't have to go at all.

[Guest guest]

Why don't you and your wife look in the recipe files and make a great dinner

together at home?

Donna

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wayne mcgillem <dad4lad2000

 

Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:38:11

 

Re: problems eating out

 

 

Yes it is  a problem eating out my veggie diet is to help me reduce my blood

pressure and cholesterol.  My problem tonight was  wife asked if we could eat

out Saturday night at a really nice resturaunt and i said sure i can have their

spinach salad .     This didn't go well with her.     She said that she thought

i could order something else. Then said we didn't have to go at all.

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

That's so funny and true about bringing healty food to a resturant.

You have to because otherwise how do you really know what you're

getting.

 

When we do eat out now it's more about spending time away from the

kids and beign together than what we order.

 

Karen

, Donnalilacflower

<thelilacflower wrote:

>

>

> Remember you are in their territory, and they don't understand a

vegetarian diet. I have battled this for over 2 years with the rest

home. They will still bring beef broth and jello to my Mom now and

then.

> There is no need to be rude wen eating out, just be prepared and

have a snack before you go, ask for a salad, if you are able,take a

small container of your own dressing. I have been known to have an

avocado in my purse along with 1/4 of a sliced jicama and some grated

carrots to add to my salad and a rustic roll. Yes I have a BIG purse

LOL

> I always put myself in the helps place, if they come to a

vegetarian restaurant I would be very offended if they sat there

making rude remarks and asked for a steak. Think about it.

> Donna

>

> The seed is in bloom, will it meet an early doom or survive in a

tranquil sea? Does it face an early end, will it find a real

friend, should it be called humanity? Will creation of man bring

death by his hand or will life be his destiny? The Seed - Rare earth

>

[Guest guest]

Why don't you call the restaurant a day or two in advance and see what they

can offer. I was the only veg. at my brothers wedding and the restaurant it

was held at provided an absolutely wonderful eggplant dish. One of the best

I've ever had. Of course that was a couple years ago and I don't remember

what all it was. But they were very cheerful about providing something when

they knew in advance.

 

Sam

 

 

 

 

 

Yes it is a problem eating out my veggie diet is to help me reduce my blood

pressure and cholesterol. My problem tonight was wife asked if we could

eat out Saturday night at a really nice resturaunt and i said sure i can

have their spinach salad . This didn't go well with her. She said

that she thought i could order something else. Then said we didn't have to

go at all.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

aww, don't sound so defeated!  there are plenty of restaurants out there with

vegetarian dishes on their menu!  keep looking!  and, Seva in Ann Arbor,

MI rocks the world! 

 

 

 

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--- On Wed, 2/25/09, wayne mcgillem <dad4lad2000 wrote:

 

 

wayne mcgillem <dad4lad2000

Re: problems eating out

 

Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 7:38 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes it is  a problem eating out my veggie diet is to help me reduce my blood

pressure and cholesterol.  My problem tonight was  wife asked if we could eat

out Saturday night at a really nice resturaunt and i said sure i can have their

spinach salad .     This didn't go well with her.     She said that she

thought i could order something else. Then said we didn't have to go at all.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Surprise your wife. If it is a " really nice restaurant " , call them and tell

them your dietary restrictions and ask them to fix you a nice meal. Nice

restaurants are always happy to accommodate. I have been served FABULOUS

meals that others at the table envy by simply asking the chef or manager if

they could just do something simple because I can't eat this, this, and

this.

 

Then, take your wife out and have a nice time.

 

Ligtstar

 

_____

 

 

On Behalf Of wayne mcgillem

Wednesday, February 25, 2009 7:38 PM

 

Re: problems eating out

 

 

 

Yes it is a problem eating out my veggie diet is to help me reduce my blood

pressure and cholesterol. My problem tonight was wife asked if we could

eat out Saturday night at a really nice resturaunt and i said sure i can

have their spinach salad . This didn't go well with her. She said

that she thought i could order something else. Then said we didn't have to

go at all.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

It's definitely worth calling and asking. My DH (omnivore) and I

were in Whistler and went to eat at this very expensive restaurant.

Of course it was all me*t based dishes. I asked if they could do

anything (I didn't even call ahead) and as it turns out, one of the

chefs used to work in a vegetarian restaurant and happily made me a

special dish. It was the first time I had ever been exposed green

garlic shoots...it was a fabulous meal.

 

Paula

 

, " Samantha Lea " <saml

wrote:

>

> Why don't you call the restaurant a day or two in advance and see

what they

> can offer. I was the only veg. at my brothers wedding and the

restaurant it

> was held at provided an absolutely wonderful eggplant dish. One

of the best

> I've ever had. Of course that was a couple years ago and I don't

remember

> what all it was. But they were very cheerful about providing

something when

> they knew in advance.

>

> Sam

>

>

>

>

>

> Yes it is a problem eating out my veggie diet is to help me

reduce my blood

> pressure and cholesterol. My problem tonight was wife asked if

we could

> eat out Saturday night at a really nice resturaunt and i said sure

i can

> have their spinach salad . This didn't go well with her.

She said

> that she thought i could order something else. Then said we didn't

have to

> go at all.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

What a lovely, lovely suggestion and compromise!

 

Brava!!

 

~ irene

 

 

> Surprise your wife. If it is a " really nice restaurant " , call them

> and tell

> them your dietary restrictions and ask them to fix you a nice

> meal. Nice

> restaurants are always happy to accommodate. I have been served

> FABULOUS

> meals that others at the table envy by simply asking the chef or

> manager if

> they could just do something simple because I can't eat this, this,

> and

> this.

>

> Then, take your wife out and have a nice time.

>

> Ligtstar

[Guest guest]

I have to admit that I'm a bit surprised to hear how difficult it

seems to find vegetarian-friendly dining in the U.S. I live in Sweden

and I've never had any problems eating out or being served meat/fish

when I've asked for a vegetarian meal, nor during my travels in other

European countries. Most restaurants here have a vegetarian

alternative for " Today's Lunch " , the same goes for hospitals etc.

 

I took some courses at the local University and once when we had a

Christmas dinner about 1/3 of the students were vegetarian. Nor have

it been any difficulties for friends whom have different food

allergies to have dinners out if the restaurant/caterer have been

notified in advance.

 

/Helga

[Guest guest]

Several years ago I was in China Town in San Francisco on a company trip, we

stopped in a restaurant and I asked what was in several of menu Items, I

couldn't get a satisfactory answer so I had white rice. Everyone I was with

teased me a little bit, however when I we left some of the did not feel so

well,

I felt fine and laughed because they just didn't know how to order.

We all laughed about it even the teasing was good natured teasing not

harassing teasing.

 

 

In a message dated 2/25/2009 7:05:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

thelilacflower writes:

 

 

 

 

 

Remember you are in their territory, and they don't understand a vegetarian

diet. I have battled this for over 2 years with the rest home. They will

still bring beef broth and jello to my Mom now and then.

There is no need to be rude wen eating out, just be prepared and have a

snack before you go, ask for a salad, if you are able,take a small container of

your own dressing. I have been known to have an avocado in my purse along with

1/4 of a sliced jicama and some grated carrots to add to my salad and a

rustic roll. Yes I have a BIG purse LOL

I always put myself in the helps place, if they come to a vegetarian

restaurant I would be very offended if they sat there making rude remarks and

asked

for a steak. Think about it.

Donna

 

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sea? Does it face an early end, will it find a real friend, should it be called

humanity? Will creation of man bring death by his hand or will life be his

destiny? The Seed - Rare earth

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Donna,

I so agree with your statement " they don't understand a vegetarian

diet. " ..We often feel awkward in a situation that we don't understand

and sometimes people react defensively. They often feel as if we as

Vegetarian/Vegans are judging them. Especially if we call attention

to ourselves. I have over reacted on a couple of occasions and one in

particular I actually cried when I found a piece of raw meat on my

plate. Another time I was told that the soup was Vegetarian and

contained no meat and it had a fish stock. I politely sent it back.

The raw sausage incident was undoubtably done on purpose but the

manager spoke to me privately and was very understanding and kind.

I've learned my lesson the hard way. LOL It's better to do as you

mentioned and bring along your own salad dressing and extras

including a tea bag which I've done many times.

It's my experience after so many years as a Vegetarian that most

places are happy to serve you the kind of meal that you want. So much

depends on our attitude and of course the restauarnt.

I often call back or talk to the manager before leaving,expressing my

thanks for their service.

It is so amazing and wonderful how life and food has changed for the

better in the last 30 years for us Vegetarians/Vegans .

Deanna in Colorado

PS..Give Mama Rose a hug for me.

**********************************************************************

Donnalilacflower <thelilacflower wrote:

> Remember you are in their territory, and they don't understand a

vegetarian diet.

[Guest guest]

We went to a favorite chinese place and ordered. We were told the gravy was

made with vegetable stock. I was skeptical. When we got there to pick it up

they were making us a special gravy since when she checked it did have

chicken stock. She also threw in a chinese salad for us to try, and said

they could make us special veggie eggrolls. It was a wonderful experience.

 

Alia

[Guest guest]

My husband [an omnivore] and I eat out a lot. I have been a

vegetarian for 30+ years. So, I had adapted pretty well--I have

travelled all over and managed to eat out very well.

 

However, when I acquired lyme disease, I developed a gluten allergy.

That made it very very difficult to eat out. In " standard " American-

style restaurant, I am pretty much stuck with salads without dressing

[most commercial salad dressings contain gluten]--I never liked

salads to begin with. However, Mexican and Chinese restaurants are

my favorites--yes, I know there usually is gluten in most soy sauce,

but my doctor says the amount is miniscule and I do not have celiac

disease.

 

I know not to order soup in a Chinese restaurant because it usually

contains chicken stock. In some college towns, you can get wonderful

spicy vegetarian Chinese soups. My basic Chinese restaurant favorite

is simple stir fried tofu, vegetables, and rice. I need nothing more.

 

In Mexican restaurants, I usually order a bean and cheese taco [with

a soft corn tortilla] and that usually comes with beans and rice. I

have found that I am better off with green sauce made with tomatillos

because the " red " sauce tends to be thickened with flour. I know

that refried beans often use lard--I usually don't question that. It

does not make me sick like chicken soup does so I just live with it.

I make mine @ home with butter or olive oil--yes, I know, not very

authentic.

 

My experience is that some waiters and waitresses are very

knowledgeable about food and some are not. You can usually tell if

they know little about the food they are serving--I know this is

sexist/age-ist, but older women waitresses tend to the most

knowledgeable.

 

Kathleen

 

We went to a favorite chinese place and ordered. We were told the

gravy was made with vegetable stock. I was skeptical. When we got

there to pick it up they were making us a special gravy since when

she checked it did have chicken stock.

[Guest guest]

Mexican restaurants are my favorites, too Seems silly, but one of my

favorite things to get is just a cheese quesadilla with lots of pico and

guacamole.

 

I used to love egg drop soup -- then realized it's usually made with chicken

stock. I make my own at home now, I was surprised how easy it is. I make it

fancier by putting in shiitake mushrooms and green onions -- yum!

 

I have found that older women waitresses usually seem to know better what's

in the food, too. And usually the ones that seem willing to go ask the chef

what's in a certain dish are teenagers, of both sexes -- which I really

appreciate!

 

 

Audrey S.

 

On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Kathleen Pelley <kmpelleywrote:

 

> My husband [an omnivore] and I eat out a lot. I have been a

> vegetarian for 30+ years. So, I had adapted pretty well--I have

> travelled all over and managed to eat out very well.

>

> However, when I acquired lyme disease, I developed a gluten allergy.

> That made it very very difficult to eat out. In " standard " American-

> style restaurant, I am pretty much stuck with salads without dressing

> [most commercial salad dressings contain gluten]--I never liked

> salads to begin with. However, Mexican and Chinese restaurants are

> my favorites--yes, I know there usually is gluten in most soy sauce,

> but my doctor says the amount is miniscule and I do not have celiac

> disease.

>

> I know not to order soup in a Chinese restaurant because it usually

> contains chicken stock. In some college towns, you can get wonderful

> spicy vegetarian Chinese soups. My basic Chinese restaurant favorite

> is simple stir fried tofu, vegetables, and rice. I need nothing more.

>

> In Mexican restaurants, I usually order a bean and cheese taco [with

> a soft corn tortilla] and that usually comes with beans and rice. I

> have found that I am better off with green sauce made with tomatillos

> because the " red " sauce tends to be thickened with flour. I know

> that refried beans often use lard--I usually don't question that. It

> does not make me sick like chicken soup does so I just live with it.

> I make mine @ home with butter or olive oil--yes, I know, not very

> authentic.

>

> My experience is that some waiters and waitresses are very

> knowledgeable about food and some are not. You can usually tell if

> they know little about the food they are serving--I know this is

> sexist/age-ist, but older women waitresses tend to the most

> knowledgeable.

>

> Kathleen

>

> We went to a favorite chinese place and ordered. We were told the

> gravy was made with vegetable stock. I was skeptical. When we got

> there to pick it up they were making us a special gravy since when

> she checked it did have chicken stock.

>

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Audrey, would you please tell us how you make the egg drop soup? I miss those

too...

 

 

, Audrey Snyder <AudeeBird wrote:

>

> Mexican restaurants are my favorites, too Seems silly, but one of my

> favorite things to get is just a cheese quesadilla with lots of pico and

> guacamole.

>

> I used to love egg drop soup -- then realized it's usually made with chicken

> stock. I make my own at home now, I was surprised how easy it is. I make it

> fancier by putting in shiitake mushrooms and green onions -- yum!

>

> I have found that older women waitresses usually seem to know better what's

> in the food, too. And usually the ones that seem willing to go ask the chef

> what's in a certain dish are teenagers, of both sexes -- which I really

> appreciate!

>

>

> Audrey S.

>

> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Kathleen Pelley <kmpelleywrote:

>

> > My husband [an omnivore] and I eat out a lot. I have been a

> > vegetarian for 30+ years. So, I had adapted pretty well--I have

> > travelled all over and managed to eat out very well.

> >

> > However, when I acquired lyme disease, I developed a gluten allergy.

> > That made it very very difficult to eat out. In " standard " American-

> > style restaurant, I am pretty much stuck with salads without dressing

> > [most commercial salad dressings contain gluten]--I never liked

> > salads to begin with. However, Mexican and Chinese restaurants are

> > my favorites--yes, I know there usually is gluten in most soy sauce,

> > but my doctor says the amount is miniscule and I do not have celiac

> > disease.

> >

> > I know not to order soup in a Chinese restaurant because it usually

> > contains chicken stock. In some college towns, you can get wonderful

> > spicy vegetarian Chinese soups. My basic Chinese restaurant favorite

> > is simple stir fried tofu, vegetables, and rice. I need nothing more.

> >

> > In Mexican restaurants, I usually order a bean and cheese taco [with

> > a soft corn tortilla] and that usually comes with beans and rice. I

> > have found that I am better off with green sauce made with tomatillos

> > because the " red " sauce tends to be thickened with flour. I know

> > that refried beans often use lard--I usually don't question that. It

> > does not make me sick like chicken soup does so I just live with it.

> > I make mine @ home with butter or olive oil--yes, I know, not very

> > authentic.

> >

> > My experience is that some waiters and waitresses are very

> > knowledgeable about food and some are not. You can usually tell if

> > they know little about the food they are serving--I know this is

> > sexist/age-ist, but older women waitresses tend to the most

> > knowledgeable.

> >

> > Kathleen

> >

> > We went to a favorite chinese place and ordered. We were told the

> > gravy was made with vegetable stock. I was skeptical. When we got

> > there to pick it up they were making us a special gravy since when

> > she checked it did have chicken stock.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You have to watch out for the quesadilla also because often " authentic "

flour tortillas contain lard.

 

Fred/Diane Hawley