Guest guest Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Can you give an example? I'm curious about this and didn't know it happened. Thanks. Janet On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 5:05 PM, paula <paburnt wrote: > hi everyone. i have a question about products that are slipping animal > products by me without my knowing. how can i become more informed > about this? is there a website? knowledge fairies that leave > pamphlets under my pillow? i am trying so hard to be a good vegetarian > and here they all go passing stuff off and i didn't know it! any hepl > will be appriciated. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Read those labels and ask questions when eating places beside home. And don't be afraid to ask them to go and look on the package of something that is served at a restaurant or ask the cheif. Most common things to watch out for are meat broths or meat flavoring in dips, soups, and cooked vegetables. Gelatin is probably one of the most frequently used meat product found commonly in many products that you would never guess. That would include but by far not limited to most store bought dips, most yogurts, some sour creams, coated cereals(like frosted mini wheats, etc), some margarines, many candies, altoids, over the counter gel capsule medication and vitamins. Fried foods may be cooked in the same oil that meat products are also fried in or may lard and not vegetable oil. Most store bought pie crusts have lard in them. Frozen friench fries will often have beef fat or lard in them. McDonalds fries have beef fat in french fry itself, even though though they are cooked in vegetable oil. This was big in the news a while back. Many vegetarians thought their french fries would be a safe option there. Refried beans, especially in most mexican restaurants will have lard in them. Most all beans in any restaurant will have meat cooked in it, especially in the south U.S. A. Taco Bell beans are ok. Read, read, read labels. I love Vanilla Yogurt and the only two brands that I find it without Gelatin is the Dannon in the large qt. size container and Stoneyfield. Well last week I happened to pick up a Winn Dixie store brand of Vanilla Yogurt and I couldn't believe it. Sometime in the last 6 months, the large Winn Dixie brand of Vanilla Yogurt stopped putting in the gelatin. I was so happy for this change and the store brand was a lot cheaper. Anyway this is what I remembered at the moment. Judy - paula Sunday, February 22, 2009 7:05 PM animal or not...? hi everyone. i have a question about products that are slipping animal products by me without my knowing. how can i become more informed about this? is there a website? knowledge fairies that leave pamphlets under my pillow? i am trying so hard to be a good vegetarian and here they all go passing stuff off and i didn't know it! any hepl will be appriciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 This is a really great site: http://shopcrueltyfree.peta2.com/index.aspx Enjoy! Mariah ________________________________ wwjd <jtwigg Sunday, February 22, 2009 7:31:04 PM Re: animal or not...? Read those labels and ask questions when eating places beside home. And don't be afraid to ask them to go and look on the package of something that is served at a restaurant or ask the cheif. Most common things to watch out for are meat broths or meat flavoring in dips, soups, and cooked vegetables. Gelatin is probably one of the most frequently used meat product found commonly in many products that you would never guess. That would include but by far not limited to most store bought dips, most yogurts, some sour creams, coated cereals(like frosted mini wheats, etc), some margarines, many candies, altoids, over the counter gel capsule medication and vitamins. Fried foods may be cooked in the same oil that meat products are also fried in or may lard and not vegetable oil. Most store bought pie crusts have lard in them. Frozen friench fries will often have beef fat or lard in them. McDonalds fries have beef fat in french fry itself, even though though they are cooked in vegetable oil. This was big in the news a while back. Many vegetarians thought their french fries would be a safe option there. Refried beans, especially in most mexican restaurants will have lard in them. Most all beans in any restaurant will have meat cooked in it, especially in the south U.S. A. Taco Bell beans are ok. Read, read, read labels. I love Vanilla Yogurt and the only two brands that I find it without Gelatin is the Dannon in the large qt. size container and Stoneyfield. Well last week I happened to pick up a Winn Dixie store brand of Vanilla Yogurt and I couldn't believe it. Sometime in the last 6 months, the large Winn Dixie brand of Vanilla Yogurt stopped putting in the gelatin. I was so happy for this change and the store brand was a lot cheaper. Anyway this is what I remembered at the moment. Judy - paula Sunday, February 22, 2009 7:05 PM [vegetarian_ group] animal or not...? hi everyone. i have a question about products that are slipping animal products by me without my knowing. how can i become more informed about this? is there a website? knowledge fairies that leave pamphlets under my pillow? i am trying so hard to be a good vegetarian and here they all go passing stuff off and i didn't know it! any hepl will be appriciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 I hsve found this list of animal ingredients helpful, as well: http://www.caringconsumer.com/resources_ingredients_list.asp Also, keep in mind that something vague on the label such as " natural flavors " may be animal products. I read once that companies will use phrases like that to hide proprietary info (i.e., " secret ingredients " ). , Mariah Crites <10mmc wrote: > > This is a really great site: > http://shopcrueltyfree.peta2.com/index.aspx > > Enjoy! > Mariah > > > > ________________________________ > wwjd <jtwigg > > Sunday, February 22, 2009 7:31:04 PM > Re: animal or not...? > > > Read those labels and ask questions when eating places beside home. And don't be afraid to ask them to go and look on the package of something that is served at a restaurant or ask the cheif. > > Most common things to watch out for are meat broths or meat flavoring in dips, soups, and cooked vegetables. Gelatin is probably one of the most frequently used meat product found commonly in many products that you would never guess. That would include but by far not limited to most store bought dips, most yogurts, some sour creams, coated cereals(like frosted mini wheats, etc), some margarines, many candies, altoids, over the counter gel capsule medication and vitamins. > > Fried foods may be cooked in the same oil that meat products are also fried in or may lard and not vegetable oil. Most store bought pie crusts have lard in them. Frozen friench fries will often have beef fat or lard in them. McDonalds fries have beef fat in french fry itself, even though though they are cooked in vegetable oil. This was big in the news a while back. Many vegetarians thought their french fries would be a safe option there. > > Refried beans, especially in most mexican restaurants will have lard in them. Most all beans in any restaurant will have meat cooked in it, especially in the south U.S. A. Taco Bell beans are ok. > > Read, read, read labels. I love Vanilla Yogurt and the only two brands that I find it without Gelatin is the Dannon in the large qt. size container and Stoneyfield. Well last week I happened to pick up a Winn Dixie store brand of Vanilla Yogurt and I couldn't believe it. Sometime in the last 6 months, the large Winn Dixie brand of Vanilla Yogurt stopped putting in the gelatin. I was so happy for this change and the store brand was a lot cheaper. > > Anyway this is what I remembered at the moment. > > Judy > - > paula > > Sunday, February 22, 2009 7:05 PM > [vegetarian_ group] animal or not...? > > hi everyone. i have a question about products that are slipping animal > products by me without my knowing. how can i become more informed > about this? is there a website? knowledge fairies that leave > pamphlets under my pillow? i am trying so hard to be a good vegetarian > and here they all go passing stuff off and i didn't know it! any hepl > will be appriciated. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Deanna posted this informative link: http://cyberparent.com/nutrition/hiddenanimalsfoodproducts.htm There also may be others in our New Vegetarians file. Peace, Diane , " paula " <paburnt wrote: > > hi everyone. i have a question about products that are slipping animal > products by me without my knowing. how can i become more informed > about this? is there a website? knowledge fairies that leave > pamphlets under my pillow? i am trying so hard to be a good vegetarian > and here they all go passing stuff off and i didn't know it! any hepl > will be appriciated. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 oh my goodness, i have to laugh at your cracker barrel story!! when i was recently in the hospital, my surgeons told me i couldn't leave until i was able to eat and drink on my own. several of my family members told the nurses and assistants that i was a vegetarian and they were assured the hospital cafeteria had things i could safely eat. well, the hospital's idea of " vegetarian " broth was chicken broth-- because, and i quote, " there's no meat in it!! " turns out, one of my surgeons is also a vegetarian, and he was not happy to hear they didn't have any vegetable broth and that they hadn't at least offered ensure as an alternative. so, moral of the story: make sure they have vegetarian fare BEFORE you go in the hospital! if not, bring your own!! , Jeanne B <treazured wrote: > > You are to be applauded for trying! Making vegetarian choices in food as well as things like shoes isn't always easy. Read labels carefully. I had been using Jiffy corn bread mix as a quick and easy for over 40 years, only to discover that it has lard in it. Yuk. Recently I got someone to read the small print on a yogurt I like (Weight Watchers amaretto cheesecake) and darnit if it doesn't have kosher gelatin. > > We met friends at a nearby Cracker Barrel restaurant and I ordered vegetables. Guess what was in all of the veggies I ordered? Yup. Ham. The server suggested that I just " pick it out " and eat the rest. Er..... > > Ah well. Jeanne in GA > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Yes, and it's so particularly hard to eat in restaurants. Unless they think you are asking ingredients because they think you are allergic I think for the most part they generally don't care. We were taken out to eat a few months ago to a barbecue place in Texas. There was absolutely nothing on the menu I could eat. I had ice tea and everyone gave me the pickles on their plates. I had asked if they had salad to which they said yes and I got potato salad, of course with mayonaize, and I don't eat eggs. I just have learned to adapt. We will be going to a get together this upcoming week and they started planning the meal - ok, who will bring the hotdogs? My husband just looks over at me, and I just say I'll bring my own food. The way I look at it I have to fit into the rest of the world. We have relatives who don't eat pork, and now, I look back on my pre-vegetarian days and remember making baked beans. It teaches you not to judge and just go with the flow. I now try to be considerate of anyone's food choices or preferences, whether it be because of allergies, diabetes, religious, etc. Jerri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Vegetarian Resource Group (www.vrg.org) is a treasure trove of information! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Just a few thoughts re: the thread about restaurants and requests for vegetarian food preparation: I am sure they (cooks and chefs) don't do these things to be inconsidertate--they just do not realize. (I did this myself years ago...) The thought in the " cook's " mind is " flavor " --and THEY think that (adding ham, e.g.) is " necessary " to give what (to them) is a desirable flavor. They don't realize that THEIR preferences (or what they like as a " flavor " ) isn't universally accepted. Cooks or chefs, depending on the " reputation " of the restaurant, and (most likely) the temperament of the person in charge of food preparation want to be known for preparing food of certain (percieved as " good " ) flavor(s). If they think that leaving out an ingredient (meat or other) that THEY feel is " essential " to that signature " flavor " , they'll PERCIEVE the request (to omit it) as a " dumbing-down " of their cherished recipe. I understand the MINDSET--I do NOT condone their refusal to accommodate the customer who requests the omission, for WHATEVER reason. After all, the cook/chef's reason-to-be IS that customer, whether he/she is a vegetarian, Jewish, Muslim, has an allergy (or whatever) when a special food request is made. My DH and I eat out about once a week (our " date night " ). In our town, there are very few really decent restaurants, few interesting food choices...I've taken it as a challenge to look over the menus ahead of time, if possible. (Some of the places publish their menus online--I like that best!) I am not a vegetarian, but I look for the vegetarian foods on the menus and order them whenever I can. I was pleasantly surprised a few months ago when I ate in a typically midwestern " greasy spoon " sort of place (read that " meat-and-potatoes only " menu items!). I asked for a large " dinner salad " that (on the menu) came with grilled chicken. Nothing was m**t free, so I asked if the salad (without the chix) could maybe have just a little extra cheese on it instead. The waitress SUGGESTED adding portobello mushrooms AND extra cheese, which sounded wonderful to me. When the salad arrived, it had everything I wanted on it and nothing I didn't. I made sure to thank and tip the waitress; I told her to " thank the cook " for me, too. I told her her how much I enjoyed the specially-made salad. I keep hoping that positive feedback from customers will encourage the cooks to LISTEN to what the customers want. Hopefully, it also will encourage more flexibility from those preparing their foods. Thanks for letting me add my 2 cents' worth here! Eating out can be difficult, but not totally impossible. I am sorry to hear of the problems many of you have in the restaurants. It's always heartening to learn of the places that are veg-friendly, too. Everyone benefits when there are healthy, safe, and accommodating food choices when eating out! Peace and blessings! --Laura B., in Illinois Posted by: " Tameson " tamesonob tamesonob Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:22 am ((PST)) >Guess what was in all of the veggies I ordered? Yup. Ham. WHY??? I can't even fathom why anyone would put Ham in veggies, not only for vegetarians but for muslims, jews, seventh day adventists, eastern orthodox christians and rastafarians too - How completely inconsiderate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Thanks so much for the invite. I've never been to NH. I'll be tagging along with my husband to Annapolis, MD in April. If anyone has any restaurant suggestions for there, please let me know. Thanks, Jerri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 I'd like to replace my Birkenstocks with something more animal- friendly when they wear out soon, as well as transition my shoes generally. My challenge has been that my foot is a Euro size 35 which is a kid size in US, and the vegan shoe sites I have found so far haven't had kid shoes or at least not kid shoes that wouldn't look goofy on an adult. Anybody have any leads for me? -ginger near Boston On Feb 24, 2009, Jeanne B wrote: > You are to be applauded for trying! Making vegetarian choices in > food as well as things like shoes isn't always easy. Read labels > carefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 There's a restaurant file /file/Veggie%20Resturants/ Peace, Diane , Jerri Schlenker <jerrischlenker wrote: > > Thanks so much for the invite. I've never been to NH. I'll be tagging along with my husband to Annapolis, MD in April. If anyone has any restaurant suggestions for there, please let me know. > > Thanks, > Jerri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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