Guest guest Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 Welcome to the group, Nina, and nice to hear your story. Regards, Blake On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 9:37 PM, <nina92116 wrote: Hi, I'm Nina and I recently joined this group to learn more about the vegan diet. Most of the vegans I know are quite young. I'm 58 years old. I've been a vegetarian about half my life. When I was diagnosed with diabetes several years ago I was told very emphatically that I could not control diabetes on a vegetarian diet and so would have to begin eating animal protein on a regular basis. I've heard this many times over the years from one dietician or another. Recently I found a book that advocates a plant based diet for treating diabetes. I went back to my doctor, with the book and explained why I wanted to use the program instead of the usual diabetic diet. My doctor is great, she listened to me, read some of the material I gave her and then agreed that it sounded like a good idea. Being older the prevailing wisdom was that a vegetarian had to use milk, milk products and eggs in their diet. Frankly I hate milk. I just don't feel good when I consume milk products. I never have. So I always did a lousy job of keeping up the milk side of the equation. Eggs don't bother me, but I can't say I like them much. So I'm pretty happy to give those up. I've been following the vegan program for about a month and am definitely feeling better, physically, mentally and morally. I've found a couple of great vegan recipe books and am enjoying this very much. Guess that's all for now. Nice to meet you all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 Hi Nina Glad to hear that you found a good book. I have absolutely no idea why meat or milk should be necessary to control diabetes - surely it's basically a blood sugar problem! I've got a friend who has been a diabetic vegan for at least 5 years - I am aware that he has to be careful with what he eats, but then don't all diabetics? And for what it's worth, he's fit and healthy enough to play American Football every weekend!!!! Anyway, welcome to the list! BB Peter - nina92116 Tuesday, September 23, 2008 4:37 AM I'm new here Hi, I'm Nina and I recently joined this group to learn more about the vegan diet. Most of the vegans I know are quite young. I'm 58 years old. I've been a vegetarian about half my life. When I was diagnosed with diabetes several years ago I was told very emphatically that I could not control diabetes on a vegetarian diet and so would have to begin eating animal protein on a regular basis. I've heard this many times over the years from one dietician or another. Recently I found a book that advocates a plant based diet for treating diabetes. I went back to my doctor, with the book and explained why I wanted to use the program instead of the usual diabetic diet. My doctor is great, she listened to me, read some of the material I gave her and then agreed that it sounded like a good idea. Being older the prevailing wisdom was that a vegetarian had to use milk, milk products and eggs in their diet. Frankly I hate milk. I just don't feel good when I consume milk products. I never have. So I always did a lousy job of keeping up the milk side of the equation. Eggs don't bother me, but I can't say I like them much. So I'm pretty happy to give those up. I've been following the vegan program for about a month and am definitely feeling better, physically, mentally and morally. I've found a couple of great vegan recipe books and am enjoying this very much. Guess that's all for now. Nice to meet you all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 Welcome! And congrats on finding a reasonable doc. I remember reading that reducing the *fat* content of the diet was the most effective way to control diabetes, and that the best way to do that was to avoid all animal products. At 8:37 PM -0700 9/22/08, <nina92116 wrote: Hi, I'm Nina and I recently joined this group to learn more about the vegan diet. Most of the vegans I know are quite young. I'm 58 years old. I've been a vegetarian about half my life. When I was diagnosed with diabetes several years ago I was told very emphatically that I could not control diabetes on a vegetarian diet and so would have to begin eating animal protein on a regular basis. I've heard this many times over the years from one dietician or another. Recently I found a book that advocates a plant based diet for treating diabetes. I went back to my doctor, with the book and explained why I wanted to use the program instead of the usual diabetic diet. My doctor is great, she listened to me, read some of the material I gave her and then agreed that it sounded like a good idea. Being older the prevailing wisdom was that a vegetarian had to use milk, milk products and eggs in their diet. Frankly I hate milk. I just don't feel good when I consume milk products. I never have. So I always did a lousy job of keeping up the milk side of the equation. Eggs don't bother me, but I can't say I like them much. So I'm pretty happy to give those up. I've been following the vegan program for about a month and am definitely feeling better, physically, mentally and morally. I've found a couple of great vegan recipe books and am enjoying this very much. Guess that's all for now. Nice to meet you all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 hello and welcome to the group nina hope you enjoy it here cheers fraggle nina92116 Sep 22, 2008 8:37 PM I'm new here Hi, I'm Nina and I recently joined this group to learn more about the vegan diet. Most of the vegans I know are quite young. I'm 58 years old. I've been a vegetarian about half my life. When I was diagnosed with diabetes several years ago I was told very emphatically that I could not control diabetes on a vegetarian diet and so would have to begin eating animal protein on a regular basis. I've heard this many times over the years from one dietician or another. Recently I found a book that advocates a plant based diet for treating diabetes. I went back to my doctor, with the book and explained why I wanted to use the program instead of the usual diabetic diet. My doctor is great, she listened to me, read some of the material I gave her and then agreed that it sounded like a good idea. Being older the prevailing wisdom was that a vegetarian had to use milk, milk products and eggs in their diet. Frankly I hate milk. I just don't feel good when I consume milk products. I never have. So I always did a lousy job of keeping up the milk side of the equation. Eggs don't bother me, but I can't say I like them much. So I'm pretty happy to give those up. I've been following the vegan program for about a month and am definitely feeling better, physically, mentally and morally. I've found a couple of great vegan recipe books and am enjoying this very much. Guess that's all for now. Nice to meet you all. you're bored in retirement cuz your energies drained away, your money had no answer, you just still want more! your life was never different then the guy next door! all your neighbors are competitors, where'd you all go wrong? there never was a mountain to climb. potential friends are now your enemies, where'd you all go wrong? there never was a mountain to climb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 Hi Nina, and welcome. Peter vv "nina92116" <nina92116 Sent: Tuesday, 23 September, 2008 4:37:43 AM I'm new here Hi, I'm Nina and I recently joined this group to learn more about the vegan diet. Most of the vegans I know are quite young. I'm 58 years old. I've been a vegetarian about half my life. When I was diagnosed with diabetes several years ago I was told very emphatically that I could not control diabetes on a vegetarian diet and so would have to begin eating animal protein on a regular basis. I've heard this many times over the years from one dietician or another. Recently I found a book that advocates a plant based diet for treating diabetes. I went back to my doctor, with the book and explained why I wanted to use the program instead of the usual diabetic diet. My doctor is great, she listened to me, read some of the material I gave her and then agreed that it sounded like a good idea. Being older the prevailing wisdom was that a vegetarian had to use milk, milk products and eggs in their diet. Frankly I hate milk. I just don't feel good when I consume milk products. I never have. So I always did a lousy job of keeping up the milk side of the equation. Eggs don't bother me, but I can't say I like them much. So I'm pretty happy to give those up. I've been following the vegan program for about a month and am definitely feeling better, physically, mentally and morally. I've found a couple of great vegan recipe books and am enjoying this very much. Guess that's all for now. Nice to meet you all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 Hi Nina, welcome from another new member! I'm guessing that your book is Dr. Barnard's Program for Reversing Diabetes. Check out the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine website at http://www.pcrm.org/ for diabetes information, resources, recipes and support if you need more data. I think Dr. Dean Ornish also has several books out that provide sound medical reasons to turn to a plant-based diet both for heart issues and diabetes. Good luck! , <nina92116 wrote: > > Hi, > I'm Nina and I recently joined this group to learn more about the vegan diet. Most of the vegans I know are quite young. I'm 58 years old. I've been a vegetarian about half my life. When I was diagnosed with diabetes several years ago I was told very emphatically that I could not control diabetes on a vegetarian diet and so would have to begin eating animal protein on a regular basis. I've heard this many times over the years from one dietician or another. Recently I found a book that advocates a plant based diet for treating diabetes. I went back to my doctor, with the book and explained why I wanted to use the program instead of the usual diabetic diet. My doctor is great, she listened to me, read some of the material I gave her and then agreed that it sounded like a good idea. > > Being older the prevailing wisdom was that a vegetarian had to use milk, milk products and eggs in their diet. Frankly I hate milk. I just don't feel good when I consume milk products. I never have. So I always did a lousy job of keeping up the milk side of the equation. Eggs don't bother me, but I can't say I like them much. So I'm pretty happy to give those up. I've been following the vegan program for about a month and am definitely feeling better, physically, mentally and morally. I've found a couple of great vegan recipe books and am enjoying this very much. > > Guess that's all for now. Nice to meet you all. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 Nina, Welcome. I am new with this group also and am 57 years old. I went vegan March 19 to lose weight to help fight my breast cancer and get more healthy. I have lost 48 pounds since then WITHOUT dieting for the first 38. The pounds just flew off of me. I went cold turkey, lots of raw veggies and fruits, no sugar, no processed foods, no empty calories, and everything nutrient-dense and healthy. I feel wonderful. After about 38 pounds I added a bit of quantity control and am on a tad of a diet to push the pounds off. I don't miss meat or eggs or milk or donuts or any of it! What a wonderful way to live, health by CHOICE, not by chance. Shelley H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 It is a good feeling to have a choice isn't it? How's the fight against breast cancer going for you? How long past diagnosis are you? How far along in treatment? With breast cancer do you need to avoid soy products because of the pseudo estrogen in them? Part of my motivation to go back to the vegetarian/vegan lifestyle is as a result of a bout of cancer as well. Last year I was diagnosed with squamous cell carcinoma of the tongue. A third of my tongue and all the lymph node on the left side of my face, neck and head were removed. The series of radiation treatments left me with very little saliva, an altered sense of taste, and a tongue that gets very sore when I eat certain foods. Oddly spiciness isn't what sets it off, not exactly sure what the common denominator is. Due to a combination of the lack of saliva, loss of mobility in my tongue and stiffening from scaring in my throat from the radiation there are foods that I can't eat without choking. Meat was one of them that both burned my mouth and that I choked on. Not a big loss as far as I was concerned but my intuitionalist was giving me a hard time about finding a way to make meat eatable for me. Of course she also hassled me about not drinking milk for years. LOL That led me to doing some research on my own. Which got me here. Meanwhile the cancer is gone and I'm 16 months cancer free. I'm told that with this kind of cancer 95% of recurrences are in the first 12 months. So I'm in a good place so far as that is concerned. I do need to loose some weight but right now am more concerned with getting used to the change in diet. Lucky for me I just love my veggies. :-) - Shelley Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:55 PM Re:I'm new here Nina, Welcome. I am new with this group also and am 57 years old. I went vegan March 19 to lose weight to help fight my breast cancer and get more healthy. I have lost 48 pounds since then WITHOUT dieting for the first 38. The pounds just flew off of me. I went cold turkey, lots of raw veggies and fruits, no sugar, no processed foods, no empty calories, and everything nutrient-dense and healthy. I feel wonderful. After about 38 pounds I added a bit of quantity control and am on a tad of a diet to push the pounds off. I don't miss meat or eggs or milk or donuts or any of it! What a wonderful way to live, health by CHOICE, not by chance. Shelley H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 Wow. you both are such strong women! Congratulations on getting past the 95% chance stage. I don't know a lot about cancer but, we are here to give you support when you need it. You are heading down a more positive path by chosing healthier foods. Positive thoughts to you! anouk , <nina92116 wrote: > > It is a good feeling to have a choice isn't it? > > How's the fight against breast cancer going for you? How long past diagnosis are you? How far along in treatment? With breast cancer do you need to avoid soy products because of the pseudo estrogen in them? > > Part of my motivation to go back to the vegetarian/vegan lifestyle is as a result of a bout of cancer as well. Last year I was diagnosed with squamous cell carcinoma of the tongue. A third of my tongue and all the lymph node on the left side of my face, neck and head were removed. The series of radiation treatments left me with very little saliva, an altered sense of taste, and a tongue that gets very sore when I eat certain foods. Oddly spiciness isn't what sets it off, not exactly sure what the common denominator is. Due to a combination of the lack of saliva, loss of mobility in my tongue and stiffening from scaring in my throat from the radiation there are foods that I can't eat without choking. Meat was one of them that both burned my mouth and that I choked on. Not a big loss as far as I was concerned but my intuitionalist was giving me a hard time about finding a way to make meat eatable for me. Of course she also hassled me about not drinking milk for years. LOL That led me to doing some research on my own. Which got me here. Meanwhile the cancer is gone and I'm 16 months cancer free. I'm told that with this kind of cancer 95% of recurrences are in the first 12 months. So I'm in a good place so far as that is concerned. > > I do need to loose some weight but right now am more concerned with getting used to the change in diet. Lucky for me I just love my veggies. :-) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 Nina, I finished chemo in December, got blood clots in both lungs in January, spent some time in the hospital, waited a month and went 8 weeks to radiation. Then in May I had surgery to remove an ovarian cyst that looked bad but it was benign. There were a total of 6 surgeries. On Monday I finally get my port out. My hair is 4-5 inches long and the sun is shining. The estrogen in soy is very controversial and has been since the 80's. I do have hormone positive breast cancer. Cultures who eat it have a much lower rate of breast cancer. I talked with my onc and did some research. Bottom line is I drink soy milk on occasion and tofu rarely. So I am doing it in moderation. My onc says it is no problem at all. I am so glad you are 16 months out and wish you the best. Eating right can only improve your chances of no recurrence. And for me I have found that eating healthy is so much more fun, cheaper, tastes better, and has turned eating/cooking healthy into my new hobby. Today I ate at the hospital and on my plate were the following: fresh greens, fresh spinach, artichoke hearts, kidney beans, green peas, sunflower seeds, black olives, a whole grain roll and a large pile of a mixture of corn, black beans, red onions and red peppers. Add a bottle of water and I feel full and quite pleased with myself. Shelley H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 absolutely. positive vibes to the folks on the list with these issues. blake On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:07 AM, flower child <zurumato wrote: Wow. you both are such strong women! Congratulations on getting past the 95% chance stage. I don't know a lot about cancer but, we are here to give you support when you need it. You are heading down a more positive path by chosing healthier foods. Positive thoughts to you! anouk , <nina92116 wrote: > > It is a good feeling to have a choice isn't it? > > How's the fight against breast cancer going for you? How long past diagnosis are you? How far along in treatment? With breast cancer do you need to avoid soy products because of the pseudo estrogen in them? > > Part of my motivation to go back to the vegetarian/vegan lifestyle is as a result of a bout of cancer as well. Last year I was diagnosed with squamous cell carcinoma of the tongue. A third of my tongue and all the lymph node on the left side of my face, neck and head were removed. The series of radiation treatments left me with very little saliva, an altered sense of taste, and a tongue that gets very sore when I eat certain foods. Oddly spiciness isn't what sets it off, not exactly sure what the common denominator is. Due to a combination of the lack of saliva, loss of mobility in my tongue and stiffening from scaring in my throat from the radiation there are foods that I can't eat without choking. Meat was one of them that both burned my mouth and that I choked on. Not a big loss as far as I was concerned but my intuitionalist was giving me a hard time about finding a way to make meat eatable for me. Of course she also hassled me about not drinking milk for years. LOL That led me to doing some research on my own. Which got me here. Meanwhile the cancer is gone and I'm 16 months cancer free. I'm told that with this kind of cancer 95% of recurrences are in the first 12 months. So I'm in a good place so far as that is concerned. > > I do need to loose some weight but right now am more concerned with getting used to the change in diet. Lucky for me I just love my veggies. :-) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 I agree. It is good that the vegan diet seems to be helping to overcome dire health problems - and I wish everyone good health. Jo , " Blake Wilson " <mbw wrote: > > absolutely. positive vibes to the folks on the list with these issues. > > blake > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:07 AM, flower child <zurumatowrote: > > > Wow. you both are such strong women! > > Congratulations on getting past the 95% chance stage. I don't know a > > lot about cancer but, we are here to give you support when you need > > it. You are heading down a more positive path by chosing healthier > > foods. > > > > Positive thoughts to you! > > > > anouk > > > > <%40>, > > <nina92116@> wrote: > > > > > > It is a good feeling to have a choice isn't it? > > > > > > How's the fight against breast cancer going for you? How long past > > diagnosis are you? How far along in treatment? With breast cancer do > > you need to avoid soy products because of the pseudo estrogen in > > them? > > > > > > Part of my motivation to go back to the vegetarian/vegan lifestyle > > is as a result of a bout of cancer as well. Last year I was diagnosed > > with squamous cell carcinoma of the tongue. A third of my tongue and > > all the lymph node on the left side of my face, neck and head were > > removed. The series of radiation treatments left me with very little > > saliva, an altered sense of taste, and a tongue that gets very sore > > when I eat certain foods. Oddly spiciness isn't what sets it off, not > > exactly sure what the common denominator is. Due to a combination of > > the lack of saliva, loss of mobility in my tongue and stiffening from > > scaring in my throat from the radiation there are foods that I can't > > eat without choking. Meat was one of them that both burned my mouth > > and that I choked on. Not a big loss as far as I was concerned but my > > intuitionalist was giving me a hard time about finding a way to make > > meat eatable for me. Of course she also hassled me about not drinking > > milk for years. LOL That led me to doing some research on my own. > > Which got me here. Meanwhile the cancer is gone and I'm 16 months > > cancer free. I'm told that with this kind of cancer 95% of > > recurrences are in the first 12 months. So I'm in a good place so far > > as that is concerned. > > > > > > I do need to loose some weight but right now am more concerned with > > getting used to the change in diet. Lucky for me I just love my > > veggies. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 ma nessun italiana/o qui? tanto per scambiarci esperienze, indirizzi di posti trovati, mail, indirizzi web ecc ciao a tutti enrico heartwerk ha scritto: I agree. It is good that the vegan diet seems to be helping to overcome dire health problems - and I wish everyone good health. Jo , "Blake Wilson" <mbw wrote: > > absolutely. positive vibes to the folks on the list with these issues. > > blake > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:07 AM, flower child <zurumatowrote: > > > Wow. you both are such strong women! > > Congratulations on getting past the 95% chance stage. I don't know a > > lot about cancer but, we are here to give you support when you need > > it. You are heading down a more positive path by chosing healthier > > foods. > > > > Positive thoughts to you! > > > > anouk > > > > <%40>, > > <nina92116@> wrote: > > > > > > It is a good feeling to have a choice isn't it? > > > > > > How's the fight against breast cancer going for you? How long past > > diagnosis are you? How far along in treatment? With breast cancer do > > you need to avoid soy products because of the pseudo estrogen in > > them? > > > > > > Part of my motivation to go back to the vegetarian/vegan lifestyle > > is as a result of a bout of cancer as well. Last year I was diagnosed > > with squamous cell carcinoma of the tongue. A third of my tongue and > > all the lymph node on the left side of my face, neck and head were > > removed. The series of radiation treatments left me with very little > > saliva, an altered sense of taste, and a tongue that gets very sore > > when I eat certain foods. Oddly spiciness isn't what sets it off, not > > exactly sure what the common denominator is. Due to a combination of > > the lack of saliva, loss of mobility in my tongue and stiffening from > > scaring in my throat from the radiation there are foods that I can't > > eat without choking. Meat was one of them that both burned my mouth > > and that I choked on. Not a big loss as far as I was concerned but my > > intuitionalist was giving me a hard time about finding a way to make > > meat eatable for me. Of course she also hassled me about not drinking > > milk for years. LOL That led me to doing some research on my own. > > Which got me here. Meanwhile the cancer is gone and I'm 16 months > > cancer free. I'm told that with this kind of cancer 95% of > > recurrences are in the first 12 months. So I'm in a good place so far > > as that is concerned. > > > > > > I do need to loose some weight but right now am more concerned with > > getting used to the change in diet. Lucky for me I just love my > > veggies. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 sorry Enrico, mostly Americans and British here, with a scattering of folks from all over the globe. Spiacente, principalmente Americani e Britannici qui, con una dispersione delle gente dappertutto dal globo. grazie buon giorno ! cheers fraggle Enrico Sep 26, 2008 6:32 AM Re: Re:I'm new here ma nessun italiana/o qui?tanto per scambiarci esperienze, indirizzi di posti trovati, mail, indirizzi web eccciao a tuttienricoheartwerk ha scritto: I agree. It is good that the vegan diet seems to be helping to overcome dire health problems - and I wish everyone good health.Jo , "Blake Wilson" <mbw wrote:>> absolutely. positive vibes to the folks on the list with these issues.> > blake> > On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:07 AM, flower child <zurumatowrote:> > > Wow. you both are such strong women!> > Congratulations on getting past the 95% chance stage. I don't know a> > lot about cancer but, we are here to give you support when you need> > it. You are heading down a more positive path by chosing healthier> > foods.> >> > Positive thoughts to you!> >> > anouk> >> > <%40>,> > <nina92116@> wrote:> > >> > > It is a good feeling to have a choice isn't it?> > >> > > How's the fight against breast cancer going for you? How long past> > diagnosis are you? How far along in treatment? With breast cancer do> > you need to avoid soy products because of the pseudo estrogen in> > them?> > >> > > Part of my motivation to go back to the vegetarian/vegan lifestyle> > is as a result of a bout of cancer as well. Last year I was diagnosed> > with squamous cell carcinoma of the tongue. A third of my tongue and> > all the lymph node on the left side of my face, neck and head were> > removed. The series of radiation treatments left me with very little> > saliva, an altered sense of taste, and a tongue that gets very sore> > when I eat certain foods. Oddly spiciness isn't what sets it off, not> > exactly sure what the common denominator is. Due to a combination of> > the lack of saliva, loss of mobility in my tongue and stiffening from> > scaring in my throat from the radiation there are foods that I can't> > eat without choking. Meat was one of them that both burned my mouth> > and that I choked on. Not a big loss as far as I was concerned but my> > intuitionalist was giving me a hard time about finding a way to make> > meat eatable for me. Of course she also hassled me about not drinking> > milk for years. LOL That led me to doing some research on my own.> > Which got me here. Meanwhile the cancer is gone and I'm 16 months> > cancer free. I'm told that with this kind of cancer 95% of> > recurrences are in the first 12 months. So I'm in a good place so far> > as that is concerned.> > >> > > I do need to loose some weight but right now am more concerned with> > getting used to the change in diet. Lucky for me I just love my> > veggies. :-)> > >> > >> >> > > >> you're bored in retirement cuz your energies drained away, your money had no answer, you just still want more! your life was never different then the guy next door! all your neighbors are competitors, where'd you all go wrong? there never was a mountain to climb. potential friends are now your enemies, where'd you all go wrong? there never was a mountain to climb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Nobody likes a show off! Peter vv fraggle <EBbrewpunx Sent: Friday, 26 September, 2008 10:25:01 PMRe: Re:I'm new here sorry Enrico, mostly Americans and British here, with a scattering of folks from all over the globe. Spiacente, principalmente Americani e Britannici qui, con una dispersione delle gente dappertutto dal globo. grazie buon giorno ! cheers fraggle Enrico Sep 26, 2008 6:32 AM @gro ups.com Re: Re:I'm new here ma nessun italiana/o qui?tanto per scambiarci esperienze, indirizzi di posti trovati, mail, indirizzi web eccciao a tuttienricoheartwerk ha scritto: I agree. It is good that the vegan diet seems to be helping to overcome dire health problems - and I wish everyone good health.Jo@gro ups.com, "Blake Wilson" <mbw wrote:>> absolutely. positive vibes to the folks on the list with these issues.> > blake> > On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:07 AM, flower child <zurumato@.. .>wrote:> > > Wow. you both are such strong women!> > Congratulations on getting past the 95% chance stage. I don't know a> > lot about cancer but, we are here to give you support when you need> > it. You are heading down a more positive path by chosing healthier> > foods.> >> > Positive thoughts to you!> >> > anouk> >> > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>,> > <nina92116@> wrote:> > >> > > It is a good feeling to have a choice isn't it?> > >> > > How's the fight against breast cancer going for you? How long past> > diagnosis are you? How far along in treatment? With breast cancer do> > you need to avoid soy products because of the pseudo estrogen in> > them?> > >> > > Part of my motivation to go back to the vegetarian/vegan lifestyle> > is as a result of a bout of cancer as well. Last year I was diagnosed> > with squamous cell carcinoma of the tongue. A third of my tongue and> > all the lymph node on the left side of my face, neck and head were> > removed. The series of radiation treatments left me with very little> > saliva, an altered sense of taste, and a tongue that gets very sore> > when I eat certain foods. Oddly spiciness isn't what sets it off, not> > exactly sure what the common denominator is. Due to a combination of> > the lack of saliva, loss of mobility in my tongue and stiffening from> > scaring in my throat from the radiation there are foods that I can't> > eat without choking. Meat was one of them that both burned my mouth> > and that I choked on. Not a big loss as far as I was concerned but my> > intuitionalist was giving me a hard time about finding a way to make> > meat eatable for me. Of course she also hassled me about not drinking> > milk for years. LOL That led me to doing some research on my own.> > Which got me here. Meanwhile the cancer is gone and I'm 16 months> > cancer free. I'm told that with this kind of cancer 95% of> > recurrences are in the first 12 months. So I'm in a good place so far> > as that is concerned.> > >> > > I do need to loose some weight but right now am more concerned with> > getting used to the change in diet. Lucky for me I just love my> > veggies. :-)> > >> > >> >> > > >> you're bored in retirement cuz your energies drained away, your money had no answer, you just still want more! your life was never different then the guy next door! all your neighbors are competitors, where'd you all go wrong? there never was a mountain to climb. potential friends are now your enemies, where'd you all go wrong? there never was a mountain to climb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Ciao Enrico, e welcome.Sorry il mio italiano è limitato a Google! Peter vv Enrico <henryf Sent: Friday, 26 September, 2008 2:32:58 PMRe: Re:I'm new here ma nessun italiana/o qui?tanto per scambiarci esperienze, indirizzi di posti trovati, mail, indirizzi web eccciao a tuttienricoheartwerk ha scritto: I agree. It is good that the vegan diet seems to be helping to overcome dire health problems - and I wish everyone good health.Jo@gro ups.com, "Blake Wilson" <mbw wrote:>> absolutely. positive vibes to the folks on the list with these issues.> > blake> > On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:07 AM, flower child <zurumato@.. .>wrote:> > > Wow. you both are such strong women!> > Congratulations on getting past the 95% chance stage. I don't know a> > lot about cancer but, we are here to give you support when you need> > it. You are heading down a more positive path by chosing healthier> > foods.> >> > Positive thoughts to you!> >> > anouk> >> > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>,> > <nina92116@> wrote:> > >> > > It is a good feeling to have a choice isn't it?> > >> > > How's the fight against breast cancer going for you? How long past> > diagnosis are you? How far along in treatment? With breast cancer do> > you need to avoid soy products because of the pseudo estrogen in> > them?> > >> > > Part of my motivation to go back to the vegetarian/vegan lifestyle> > is as a result of a bout of cancer as well. Last year I was diagnosed> > with squamous cell carcinoma of the tongue. A third of my tongue and> > all the lymph node on the left side of my face, neck and head were> > removed. The series of radiation treatments left me with very little> > saliva, an altered sense of taste, and a tongue that gets very sore> > when I eat certain foods. Oddly spiciness isn't what sets it off, not> > exactly sure what the common denominator is. Due to a combination of> > the lack of saliva, loss of mobility in my tongue and stiffening from> > scaring in my throat from the radiation there are foods that I can't> > eat without choking. Meat was one of them that both burned my mouth> > and that I choked on. Not a big loss as far as I was concerned but my> > intuitionalist was giving me a hard time about finding a way to make> > meat eatable for me. Of course she also hassled me about not drinking> > milk for years. LOL That led me to doing some research on my own.> > Which got me here. Meanwhile the cancer is gone and I'm 16 months> > cancer free. I'm told that with this kind of cancer 95% of> > recurrences are in the first 12 months. So I'm in a good place so far> > as that is concerned.> > >> > > I do need to loose some weight but right now am more concerned with> > getting used to the change in diet. Lucky for me I just love my> > veggies. :-)> > >> > >> >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 ciao enrico eccomi sono italiana,leggo spesso i messaggi di questo forum ma partecipo poco.raccontami della tua esperienza,mi farebbe piacere,ci sentiamo,valeria--- Ven 26/9/08, Enrico <henryf ha scritto:Da: Enrico <henryfOggetto: Re: Re:I'm new hereA: Data: Venerdì 26 settembre 2008, 15:32 ma nessun italiana/o qui? tanto per scambiarci esperienze, indirizzi di posti trovati, mail, indirizzi web ecc ciao a tutti enrico heartwerk ha scritto: I agree. It is good that the vegan diet seems to be helping to overcome dire health problems - and I wish everyone good health. Jo @gro ups.com, "Blake Wilson" <mbw wrote: > > absolutely. positive vibes to the folks on the list with these issues. > > blake > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:07 AM, flower child <zurumato@.. .>wrote: > > > Wow. you both are such strong women! > > Congratulations on getting past the 95% chance stage. I don't know a > > lot about cancer but, we are here to give you support when you need > > it. You are heading down a more positive path by chosing healthier > > foods. > > > > Positive thoughts to you! > > > > anouk > > > > @gro ups.com <% 40. com>, > > <nina92116@> wrote: > > > > > > It is a good feeling to have a choice isn't it? > > > > > > How's the fight against breast cancer going for you? How long past > > diagnosis are you? How far along in treatment? With breast cancer do > > you need to avoid soy products because of the pseudo estrogen in > > them? > > > > > > Part of my motivation to go back to the vegetarian/vegan lifestyle > > is as a result of a bout of cancer as well. Last year I was diagnosed > > with squamous cell carcinoma of the tongue. A third of my tongue and > > all the lymph node on the left side of my face, neck and head were > > removed. The series of radiation treatments left me with very little > > saliva, an altered sense of taste, and a tongue that gets very sore > > when I eat certain foods. Oddly spiciness isn't what sets it off, not > > exactly sure what the common denominator is. Due to a combination of > > the lack of saliva, loss of mobility in my tongue and stiffening from > > scaring in my throat from the radiation there are foods that I can't > > eat without choking. Meat was one of them that both burned my mouth > > and that I choked on. Not a big loss as far as I was concerned but my > > intuitionalist was giving me a hard time about finding a way to make > > meat eatable for me. Of course she also hassled me about not drinking > > milk for years. LOL That led me to doing some research on my own. > > Which got me here. Meanwhile the cancer is gone and I'm 16 months > > cancer free. I'm told that with this kind of cancer 95% of > > recurrences are in the first 12 months. So I'm in a good place so far > > as that is concerned. > > > > > > I do need to loose some weight but right now am more concerned with > > getting used to the change in diet. Lucky for me I just love my > > veggies. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Poco spazio e tanto spam? Mail ti protegge dallo spam e ti da tanto spazio gratuito per i tuoi file e i messaggi http://mail..it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 Ohh Valeria un'italiana finalmente tanto per presentarmi: abito in provincia di Como sono sui 50 e da solo 3 anni sono Vegan, molti cattivi consiglieri in famiglia e fuori mi hanno inibito a questa scelta che avrei fatto molti anni fa raccolgo molto scetticismo intorno a me ma di quello che pensano gli altri non mi è mai importato Da quando ho cambiato alimentazione mi trovo decisamente meglio sotto ogni porfilo sia mentale che fisico non rimpiango gli anni persi tanto non serve a niente Ho fatto analisi del sangje complete e periodiche con risultati a dir poco sorprendenti: da presentare ai cannibali vari In famiglia sono l'unico vegan, gli altri continuano la loro vita con reciproco rispetto Non sono uno che avendo fatto una certa scelta si senta in diritto di fare le crociate, nello stesso tempo esigo, pretendo ed ottego rispetto Spero di non averti annoiato troppo Un caòoroso saluto e soprattotto un arrivederci Ciao Enrico Ferrario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Hello! I was recommended to this group by a freind. (Hi, Debbie!) I have been a veggie for about 5 years, and am always looking for new recipes, especially to use the great stuff coming out of our garden! I live in Michigan with my husband and two boys. -Carolyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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