Guest guest Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Tee, I almost wrote about this to you last night and then thought, " Why would she be interested in THAT? " and deleted it. Maybe I was mistaken...so, here goes! Since you've had experience making home-made bread in your bread machine, you kinda already have gotten a taste (pun intended) of how economical it is to make your own bread from cheap but healthy ingredients yourself. I am 55 yrs. " young " (LOL!) and have been baking bread at home for 30+ years. I've never had a bread machine; some of my " goodies " have come out just wonderful and some have been flops--but it's been so much fun to learn and experiment with over the years. My family has enjoyed the fruits of this labor of love and just RECENTLY (like yesterday), I have learned something NEW that amazed me about bread making. Someone on the vegetarian list mentioned (more than once) a " sourdough bread " , and, mainly out of curiosity, I joined it. Let me backtrack a bit. Years ago (about 30), my DH and I lived in Tulsa, Oklahoma, as newlyweds. He was in Seminary, and we moved to a small outlying neighborhood populated by " river people " on the fringe of the city. DH had a small " student pastor " congregation there and we settled in, though we only stayed a year and a half before he graduated and we moved back to his home state of Illinois. While we lived in that neighborhood of " dear Rednecks " --they all just took us in and we loved our time there--a sweet, elderly Cherokee woman gave me a jar of bread " starter " . It was a sourdough culture that was over 100 years old. (I've since wondered if it came with some of her ancestors on the " Trail of Tears " when the Cherokee people were made to march from the Carolinas to Oklahoma.) Anyway, I was at the time learning to bake home-made bread and this woman explained how to add the " starter " to a regular bread recipe to get a wonderful texture and flavor to my half-white/half whole wheat bread recipe. I kept the " starter " and " fed " it every time I made bread...and it traveled with me (and later, with our young family) back to Illinois, then I carried it with me thru 3 other moves around that state. At some point, I was baking bread less and less often...so, after a longer than usual period of neglect, I thought the sourdough starter had " gone bad " , and I threw it out. I wish now that I had not--it probably was still active, just needing more frequent use. Anyway...about 6 months ago or so, I got the urge again to start using sourdough " starter " in my bread-baking. I read online somewhere how to get an actual starter " going " by " capturing " the wild yeasts that are normally in the air everywhere--including in my own kitchen. That intrigued me, so I set out to do it. It took a while to get started, but after about a week, I think, I knew I had an active " wild yeast " culture in my bread starter. I fed the starter and used it--for bread (moderately successful), for biscuits (fair--not like the flaky " southern " biscuits I REALLY craved--more like an English muffin, actually), for corn-bread (something was off--the recipe or something...I just didn't like that one at all), and also regular muffins (pretty good) and waffles. I found the sourdough is useful for many purposes and gives " bready " foods a unique and tasty flavor--especially the waffles, which I make frequently and freeze for handy " grab from the freezer and heat up " breakfast fare. Anyway, what I REALLY wished I could do was something I had read about (I think it was on the Veg group site)--make bread WITHOUT buying " store " yeast, using ONLY my " starter " for the yeast part of my bread-baking. I saw on an internet baking site how several people had achieved something that was, to me, the " ideal " of bread: a " San Francisco-style " sourdough round or oblong loaf of bread. It has a crunchy wonderful crust....a chewy, interesting " rustic " texture, and this interesting flavor with a slight " tang " to it from the acids in the sourdough culture. The only time I had EVER experienced this kind of bread was from a fancy (and expensive) bakery. I had never dreamed that I could actually BAKE such a bread myself. Well, last night, I DID! I followed some instructions from online with a few glitches, because I couldn't find the website right away and had to do the recipe steps from memory. I got a couple in the wrong sequence, but it still turned out well. Anyway, here's the neat part I wanted to share with you: The bread turned out REALLY well--tasty, good texture, WONDERFUL flavor, great crust--and I used very inexpensive ingredients: Flour (mine was unbleached " bread " flour, but regular unbleached would do well.) Some milk (I used soy milk because I had some to use up. It can also be water, water-and powdered milk, regular milk, skim milk, and so on. My " main " recipe for bread that I have always used (memorized, mostly) calls for milk, but if I didn't have milk, water works okay, too.) Oil (I used actual EVOO, but normally, I go with " light " olive oil or maybe canola oil. Almost ANY oil will do--and even melted butter, although personally, I think that's too rich! Salt (My bread could have used a little more than I put in. Original recipe is 2 teaspoons for the 2-loaf batch; I used 1 1/2 teaspoons. Next time, I might add just a little more.) A " real " sweetener: Sugar, honey, molasses syrup, brown or natural sugar--just helps get the yeasts " going " to use that. And, last, or rather FIRST of all: a cup of active sourdough starter, which is just a live culture of yeasts that one keeps alive by " feeding " it every so often with flour and water. What amazed me the most was that I had always believed that I needed to add some " bought " yeast to a bread dough or it wouldn't rise properly with just the sourdough yeasts. That is not true! I potentially never have to buy yeast ever again, although I probably won't make sourdough bread EVERY time. It IS my favorite kind of bread and now I have found tons and tons of DIFFERENT recipes for uses for this stuff! Anyway--sorry to ramble so much here! I just want to encourage you to dust off your baking bowls and pull out that flour and the other bread ingredients. Even without your bread machine, you CAN make yourself and your family some GOOD bread! When I started baking bread (30-some years ago), I knew almost NOTHING about how to do it; I only knew I wanted to try it because a girlfriend of mine made bread all the time and I so envied her her knowledge and skills...I gradually acquired some of those same skills and knowledge--just by DOING it, over and over again, and by asking questions of people I knew who did a lot of baking. (Baking bread at home is cheap--even when it doesn't turn out so great, you aren't " out " a lot of expensive stuff!) I hope you try it! If you ever want to talk " bread baking " , feel free to e-mail me any time! I am no " expert " , even after all those years...but I still love doing it and love to share what little I do know with anyone who's interested! GO for it!!!! Blessings and good wishes! --Laura B., in Illinois PS: If you are ever interested in starting a " starter " for sourdough, I'd be glad to pass on that info, too! --L. Re: Tee - Iron rich foods Posted by: " Tee " teer2008 teer2008 Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:17 am ((PDT)) As a true GRIT, these I have and use. I have started buying brown rice instead of white, and my mother actually remembered! lol So these I do have. I also have the regular lentils (not the red - though I have had those and LOVE them). I keep pretty stocked up on the dried goods. I have pinto's, kidney, black, black eyed peas, split peas, lentils, brown rice, old fashioned oatmeal, grits, cornmeal, and a slew of grits! LOL I also have AP flour, and other basic baking ingredients. So even when I'm " out of food " , I'm not starving. Being on here has given me tons of ideas for the lentils and beans. I have actually made vegetarian sloppy joes before and the kid loved it! I didn't tell them it was vegetarian until after they had seconds. lol I also dug out my old Indian recipes cookbook and have been flipping through that for ideas as well. Believe me the next free check we have I am tweaking my list again. However it will be at least another 3 weeks before I can do anything. In the meantime I'm going lean on the meats (as I had been already just even more so now) and increasing the stocked goodies. We have recently had a small farm stand open up right up the road (within walking distance) so I will check that one out, plus another one my mother goes to for fresh real butter. For fats I use primarily olive oil already, a habit my mother picked up when we lived in Italy and I adopted in my own life. Since my bread machine died I have been trying my hand (not to successfully) at homemade bread, now my sweet breads rock (per the boys), it's the regular breads that aren't so hot. LOL ~Tee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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