Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 thats sad and disturbing seems to be an upswing in that sort of thing lately..i guess as vegetarianism and veganism moves out of the "weird" category and becimes more mainstream, or at least more accepted in certain locales, and more restuarants try to cash in there use to be a tasty dessert place in no. san diego...they had delicious cakes and pies..but i'm pretty sure they are gone... cheers fraggle sebsi23 Oct 4, 2007 4:16 PM Nightmare at local "vegan" restaurant I've always been leery of Sipz, one of a couple San Diego, CA, "vegan"food joints (http://www.sipz.com). I was pretty sure they were usingfake meat with whey protein in it. I talked it over with the olderlady that works there (I assume she's an owner) and was assured thatthere were no whey protein based fake meats (of which there are a loton the market, and particularly in the asian food fake meat marketaisles). But I've never really felt too comfortable there. I don'tthink they are vegan proprietors; I think they are in it for the money(yes, I know, how could a vegan place be profitable? But Sipz isalways crowded. I think they saw the market and are doing their thingand making plenty of money). Not that there's anything wrong withthat, however.... My last experience there (and it will be the last; yours' too, Iassume) nearly floored me. My wife and I finished eating and I went touse the restroom. On the way to the restroom I passed the sushi area.There is a metal wire rack on the back wall to your right as you passthrough the curtain to the back room; the rack is filled with trays,bulk food items, food prep item....and a carton of GELATIN. Wait a minute. Did I see that correctly? I walked behind the counterand picked it up. It was the type with the little envelopes ofpowdered gelatin in it, and half the envelopes were gone. I read thelabel, assuming it would be vegan gelatin, right? Vegan gelatins labeltheir ingredients (mostly carageenan or something like that), but thesole ingredient on this box was: gelatin. That's only one thing, andyou know what it is, and there it was, along with other food items atthe "vegan sushi bar". I was pissed, hoping and praying that maybe the cooks use it to maketheir own food? Or maybe they clean with it (can you clean withgelatin? God, that's bad too!)? So I took it up to the owner lady, andasked her if this was used in the food. "Yes, the sushi". Do you knowwhat it is? "No". Good lord. I tell her. "Oh!". I felt like I wasdealing with my mother back in tenth grade when I told her the samething, but this person supposedly runs a vegan restaurant and I justate there! I should have taken a cell phone pic of the box up on theshelf, and I was too damn polite to her. I should have announced it tothe lunch time crowd. My suspicions confirmed, those folks don't know what the hell they aredoing. Make up your own mind about this incident, and remember thatthis crap was right out there for everyone to see. Imagine what youdon't see. Blake wargasm wargasm one two three pit bull, pit bull, one two three wave those flags high in the air as long as it takes place over there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 Thank you for the info on this restaurant; if I make it to that area I will be sure NOT to eat at this so-called "vegan" restaurant! fraggle <EBbrewpunx Thu, 4 Oct 2007 4:21 pm Re: Nightmare at local "vegan" restaurant thats sad and disturbing seems to be an upswing in that sort of thing lately..i guess as vegetarianism and veganism moves out of the "weird" category and becimes more mainstream, or at least more accepted in certain locales, and more restuarants try to cash in there use to be a tasty dessert place in no. san diego...they had delicious cakes and pies..but i'm pretty sure they are gone... cheers fraggle sebsi23 Oct 4, 2007 4:16 PM Nightmare at local "vegan" restaurant I've always been leery of Sipz, one of a couple San Diego, CA, "vegan" food joints (http://www.sipz.com). I was pretty sure they were using fake meat with whey protein in it. I talked it over with the older lady that works there (I assume she's an owner) and was assured that there were no whey protein based fake meats (of which there are a lot on the market, and particularly in the asian food fake meat market aisles). But I've never really felt too comfortable there. I don't think they are vegan proprietors; I think they are in it for the money (yes, I know, how could a vegan place be profitable? But Sipz is always crowded. I think they saw the market and are doing their thing and making plenty of money). Not that there's anything wrong with that, however.... My last experience there (and it will be the last; yours' too, I assume) nearly floored me. My wife and I finished eating and I went to use the restroom. On the way to the restroom I passed the sushi area. There is a metal wire rack on the back wall to your right as you pass through the curtain to the back room; the rack is filled with trays, bulk food items, food prep item....and a carton of GELATIN. Wait a minute. Did I see that correctly? I walked behind the counter and picked it up. It was the type with the little envelopes of powdered gelatin in it, and half the envelopes were gone. I read the label, assuming it would be vegan gelatin, right? Vegan gelatins label their ingredients (mostly carageenan or something like that), but the sole ingredient on this box was: gelatin. That's only one thing, and you know what it is, and there it was, along with other food items at the "vegan sushi bar". I was pissed, hoping and praying that maybe the cooks use it to make their own food? Or maybe they clean with it (can you clean with gelatin? God, that's bad too!)? So I took it up to the owner lady, and aske d her if this was used in the food. "Yes, the sushi". Do you know what it is? "No". Good lord. I tell her. "Oh!". I felt like I was dealing with my mother back in tenth grade when I told her the same thing, but this person supposedly runs a vegan restaurant and I just ate there! I should have taken a cell phone pic of the box up on the shelf, and I was too damn polite to her. I should have announced it to the lunch time crowd. My suspicions confirmed, those folks don't know what the hell they are doing. Make up your own mind about this incident, and remember that this crap was right out there for everyone to see. Imagine what you don't see. Blake wargasm wargasm one two three pit bull, pit bull, one two three wave those flags high in the air as long as it takes place over there Check Out the new free AIM® Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 I took the liberty of contacting this particular restaurant via phone and whoever spoke to the manager; she was very nice nice and also very upset, claiming not to know anything about it. She was very open to discussing the matter and is going to research this herself. She thanked me for the phone call and will do her own investigation. Hopefully this will resolve the matter, whether the gelatin was indeed being used or not. If it was being used, I am sure, after speaking to her, that it will be stopped or, it was being done without her prior knowledge. Even though I live in NJ and will probably not make it out to the restaurant, I felt it was my duty to inform them in a nice way about this matter so it be resolved. Thanks for the info; just in case I ever wind up there! Gigi fraggle <EBbrewpunx Thu, 4 Oct 2007 4:21 pm Re: Nightmare at local "vegan" restaurant thats sad and disturbing seems to be an upswing in that sort of thing lately..i guess as vegetarianism and veganism moves out of the "weird" category and becimes more mainstream, or at least more accepted in certain locales, and more restuarants try to cash in there use to be a tasty dessert place in no. san diego...they had delicious cakes and pies..but i'm pretty sure they are gone... cheers fraggle sebsi23 Oct 4, 2007 4:16 PM Nightmare at local "vegan" restaurant I've always been leery of Sipz, one of a couple San Diego, CA, "vegan" food joints (http://www.sipz.com). I was pretty sure they were using fake meat with whey protein in it. I talked it over with the older lady that works there (I assume she's an owner) and was assured that there were no whey protein based fake meats (of which there are a lot on the market, and particularly in the asian food fake meat market aisles). But I've never really felt too comfortable there. I don't think they are vegan proprietors; I think they are in it for the money (yes, I know, how could a vegan place be profitable? But Sipz is always crowded. I think they saw the market and are doing their thing and making plenty of money). Not that there's anything wrong with that, however.... My last experience there (and it will be the last; yours' too, I assume) nearly floored me. My wife and I finished eating and I went to use the restroom. On the way to the restroom I passed the sushi area. There is a metal wire rack on the back wall to your right as you pass through the curtain to the back room; the rack is filled with trays, bulk food items, food prep item....and a carton of GELATIN. Wait a minute. Did I see that correctly? I walked behind the counter and picked it up. It was the type with the little envelopes of powdered gelatin in it, and half the envelopes were gone. I read the label, assuming it would be vegan gelatin, right? Vegan gelatins label their ingredients (mostly carageenan or something like that), but the sole ingredient on this box was: gelatin. That's only one thing, and you know what it is, and there it was, along with other food items at the "vegan sushi bar". I was pissed, hoping and praying that maybe the cooks use it to make their own food? Or maybe they clean with it (can you clean with gelatin? God, that's bad too!)? So I took it up to the owner lady, and aske d her if this was used in the food. "Yes, the sushi". Do you know what it is? "No". Good lord. I tell her. "Oh!". I felt like I was dealing with my mother back in tenth grade when I told her the same thing, but this person supposedly runs a vegan restaurant and I just ate there! I should have taken a cell phone pic of the box up on the shelf, and I was too damn polite to her. I should have announced it to the lunch time crowd. My suspicions confirmed, those folks don't know what the hell they are doing. Make up your own mind about this incident, and remember that this crap was right out there for everyone to see. Imagine what you don't see. Blake wargasm wargasm one two three pit bull, pit bull, one two three wave those flags high in the air as long as it takes place over there Check Out the new free AIM® Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 > > Hi There! > > > > This is Sylvia. I am the owner of sipz. My cell > > phone number is 858-336-6407, please call me if > you > > could. To help clarify about the box of Gelatin. > > It > > WAS ON THE SHELF. Let me reassured you and all of > > our > > customers that I am positive that all our desserts > > and > > Vegan Sushi are VEGAN. We do not use milk, eggs, > > or > > any Gelatin in them. > > > > My brother who recently graduated from Culinary > > Institute of Art from the Bay Area learned how to > > bake > > cake was experimenting around with what he learned > > and > > then convert them into Vegan cake that we can > share > > with our Vegan customers. Huynh is that tall guy > > that > > you see in the shop over this past summer. He is > > the > > tall bald one. Anyway, the box of gelatin was > what > > his school's recipe was teaching him to use so he > > made > > Raspberry muosse cake for his friend's birthday > and > > so > > he made one regular cake as well as one Vegan one > > using Agar Agar for us to eat. The result > > unfortunately was not the same so we did not added > > it > > to our menu. It was dumb of him to have kept the > > box > > around after trying it but I reassured everybody > > that > > we do not use it in any of our vegan cakes. > > Someone > > could get it tested if they like. Doing business, > > sometime, you just can't avoid not pleasing > > everybody > > and an honest response like that customer who saw > > the > > box is totally understandable and appreciated. I > > wish > > I had been there, because I would have been > clearer > > with my answer than the " older lady " because that > is > > my mother. I had asked her after your email, > > she > > did say " we do not use that. " But her english is > > limited so she could not explain to him what > Gelatin > > is. Sorry for the scare but not to worry. We > will > > keep our food and desserts Vegan so more people > > could > > enjoy it. If something doesn't taste good enough > > Vegan, we will fairly state that it isn't. > > > > If you could help me share this info, it would be > > most > > appreciated. > > > > Thank you! > > Sylvia > > 858-336-6407 > > > __ > > > > sebsi23 > > Oct 4, 2007 4:16 PM > > > > Nightmare at local " vegan " > > restaurant > > > > I've always been leery of Sipz, one of a couple > San > > Diego, CA, " vegan " > > food joints (http://www.sipz.com). I was pretty > sure > > they were using > > fake meat with whey protein in it. I talked it > over > > with the older > > lady that works there (I assume she's an owner) > and > > was assured that > > there were no whey protein based fake meats (of > > which > > there are a lot > > on the market, and particularly in the asian food > > fake > > meat market > > aisles). But I've never really felt too > comfortable > > there. I don't > > think they are vegan proprietors; I think they are > > in > > it for the money > > (yes, I know, how could a vegan place be > profitable? > > But Sipz is > > always crowded. I think they saw the market and > are > > doing their thing > > and making plenty of money). Not that there's > > anything > > wrong with > > that, however.... > > > > My last experience there (and it will be the last; > > yours' too, I > > assume) nearly floored me. My wife and I finished > > eating and I went to > > use the restroom. On the way to the restroom I > > passed > > the sushi area. > > There is a metal wire rack on the back wall to > your > > right as you pass > > through the curtain to the back room; the rack is > > filled with trays, > > bulk food items, food prep item....and a carton of > > GELATIN. > > > > Wait a minute. Did I see that correctly? I walked > > behind the counter > > and picked it up. It was the type with the little > > envelopes of > > powdered gelatin in it, and half the envelopes > were > > gone. I read the > > label, assuming it would be vegan gelatin, right? > > Vegan gelatins label > > their ingredients (mostly carageenan or something > > like > > that), but the > > sole ingredient on this box was: gelatin. That's > > only > > one thing, and > > you know what it is, and there it was, along with > > other food items at > > the " vegan sushi bar " . > > > > I was pissed, hoping and praying that maybe the > > cooks > > use it to make > > their own food? Or maybe they clean with it (can > you > > clean with > > gelatin? God, that's bad too!)? So I took it up to > > the > > owner lady, and > > aske d her if this was used in the food. " Yes, the > > sushi " . Do you know > > what it is? " No " . Good lord. I tell her. " Oh! " . I > > felt > > like I was > > dealing with my mother back in tenth grade when I > > told > > her the same > > thing, but this person supposedly runs a vegan > > restaurant and I just > > ate there! I should have taken a cell phone pic of > > the > > box up on the > > shelf, and I was too damn polite to her. I should > > have > > announced it to > > the lunch time crowd. > > > > My suspicions confirmed, those folks don't know > what > > the hell they are > > doing. Make up your own mind about this incident, > > and > > remember that > > this crap was right out there for everyone to see. > > Imagine what you > > don't see. > > > > Blake > > > > > > Check out our new Sorrento Food Court Location!! > > 9450 Scranton Rd Suite 114A > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > Need a vacation? Get great deals > > to amazing places on Travel. > > http://travel./ > > > > > Check out our new Sorrento Food Court Location!! > 9450 Scranton Rd Suite 114A > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Check out the hottest 2008 models today at > Autos. > http://autos./new_cars.html > Check out our new Sorrento Food Court Location!! 9450 Scranton Rd Suite 114A ______________________________\ ____ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Games. http://sims./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 Sipz Vegetarian Fuzion Cafe <sipzcafe Thu, 11 Oct 2007 4:55 am Fwd: Re: Nightmare at local "vegan" restaurant > > Hi There! > > > > This is Sylvia. I am the owner of sipz. My cell > > phone number is 858-336-6407, please call me if > you > > could. To help clarify about the box of Gelatin. > > It > > WAS ON THE SHELF. Let me reassured you and all of > > our > > customers that I am positive that all our desserts > > and > > Vegan Sushi are VEGAN. We do not use milk, eggs, > > or > > any Gelatin in them. > > > > My brother who recently graduated from Culinary > > Institute of Art from the Bay Area learned how to > > bake > > cake was experimenting around with what he learned > > and > > then convert them into Vegan cake that we can > share > > with our Vegan customers. Huynh is that tall guy > > that > > you see in the shop over this past summer. He is > > the > > tall bald one. Anyway, the box of gelatin was > what > > his school's recipe was teaching him to use so he > > made > > Raspberry muosse cake for his friend's birthday > and > > so > > he made one regular cake as well as one Vegan one > > using Agar Agar for us to eat. The result > > unfortunately was not the same so we did not added > > it > > to our menu. It was dumb of him to have kept the > > box > > around after trying it but I reassured everybody > > that > > we do not use it in any of our vegan cakes. > > Someone > > could get it tested if they like. Doing business, > > sometime, you just can't avoid not pleasing > > everybody > > and an honest response like that customer who saw > > the > > box is totally understandable and appreciated. I > > wish > > I had been there, because I would have been > clearer > > with my answer than the "older lady" because that > is > > my mother. I had asked her after your email, > > she > > did say "we do not use that." But her english is > > limited so she could not explain to him what > Gelatin > > is. Sorry for the scare but not to worry. We > will > > keep our food and desserts Vegan so more people > > could > > enjoy it. If something doesn't taste good enough > > Vegan, we will fairly state that it isn't. > > > > If you could help me share this info, it would be > > most > > appreciated. > > > > Thank you! > > Sylvia > > 858-336-6407 > > > __ > > > > sebsi23 > > Oct 4, 2007 4:16 PM > > > > Nightmare at local "vegan" > > restaurant > > > > I've always been leery of Sipz, one of a couple > San > > Diego, CA, "vegan" > > food joints (http://www.sipz.com). I was pretty > sure > > they were using > > fake meat with whey protein in it. I talked it > over > > with the older > > lady that works there (I assume she's an owner) > and > > was assured that > > there were no whey protein based fake meats (of > > which > > there are a lot > > on the market, and particularly in the asian food > > fake > > meat market > > aisles). But I've never really felt too > comfortable > > there. I don't > > think they are vegan proprietors; I think they are > > in > > it for the money > > (yes, I know, how could a vegan place be > profitable? > > But Sipz is > > always crowded. I think they saw the market and > are > > doing their thing > > and making plenty of money). Not that there's > > anything > > wrong with > > that, however.... > > > > My last experience there (and it will be the last; > > yours' too, I > > assume) nearly floored me. My wife and I finished > > eating and I went to > > use the restroom. On the way to the restroom I > > passed > > the sushi area. > > There is a metal wire rack on the back wall to > your > > right as you pass > > through the curtain to the back room; the rack is > > filled with trays, > > bulk food items, food prep item....and a carton of > > GELATIN. > > > > Wait a minute. Did I see that correctly? I walked > > behind the counter > > and picked it up. It was the type with the little > > envelopes of > > powdered gelatin in it, and half the envelopes > were > > gone. I read the > > label, assuming it would be vegan gelatin, right? > > Vegan gelatins label > > their ingredients (mostly carageenan or something > > like > > that), but the > > sole ingredient on this box was: gelatin. That's > > only > > one thing, and > > you know what it is, and there it was, along with > > other food items at > > the "vegan sushi bar". > > > > I was pissed, hoping and praying that maybe the > > cooks > > use it to make > > their own food? Or maybe they clean with it (can > you > > clean with > > gelatin? God, that's bad too!)? So I took it up to > > the > > owner lady, and > > aske d her if this was used in the food. "Yes, the > > sushi". Do you know > > what it is? "No". Good lord. I tell her. "Oh!". I > > felt > > like I was > > dealing with my mother back in tenth grade when I > > told > > her the same > > thing, but this person supposedly runs a vegan > > restaurant and I just > > ate there! I should have taken a cell phone pic of > > the > > box up on the > > shelf, and I was too damn polite to her. I should > > have > > announced it to > > the lunch time crowd. > > > > My suspicions confirmed, those folks don't know > what > > the hell they are > > doing. Make up your own mind about this incident, > > and > > remember that > > this crap was right out there for everyone to see. > > Imagine what you > > don't see. > > > > Blake > > > > > > Check out our new Sorrento Food Court Location!! > > 9450 Scranton Rd Suite 114A > > > > > > > > > ________ > > Need a vacation? Get great deals > > to amazing places on Travel. > > http://travel./ > > > > > Check out our new Sorrento Food Court Location!! > 9450 Scranton Rd Suite 114A > > > > ________ > Check out the hottest 2008 models today at > Autos. > http://autos./new_cars.html > Check out our new Sorrento Food Court Location!! 9450 Scranton Rd Suite 114A ________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Games. http://sims./ Check Out the new free AIM® Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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