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for the last several months, i've noticed a definate surge in pro-hunting

culture out there.

i've seen a slew of news stories bemoaning the loss of " hunter culture " , and how

it HURTS wildlife when there are elss hunters

the last couple weeks there's been a commercial proclaiming show hunting channel

on the tv (can't recall what it is..begins with a V)

and..now...even National Geographic is in on it

http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/2007-11/hunters/poole-text.html

 

someones making a concerted push out there...

 

anyone else notice that over here in the colonies?

how about you limeys?

 

fraggle

 

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Not noticed anything over here, hunting been delayed due to the bluetongue, etc.

Is this anything to do with the apparent surge in right wing christians that appears to be going on over there?

Peter H

 

 

fraggle <EBbrewpunxvegan chat ; TFHB <TFHB >Sunday, 28 October, 2007 9:53:04 PM pro huntin slant

 

for the last several months, i've noticed a definate surge in pro-hunting culture out there.i've seen a slew of news stories bemoaning the loss of "hunter culture", and how it HURTS wildlife when there are elss huntersthe last couple weeks there's been a commercial proclaiming show hunting channel on the tv (can't recall what it is..begins with a V)and..now...even National Geographic is in on ithttp://magma. nationalgeograph ic.com/ngm/ 2007-11/hunters/ poole-text. htmlsomeones making a concerted push out there...anyone else notice that over here in the colonies?how about you limeys?fraggleReal knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance. Confucius

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that surge alas has been going on for years...

there was a conscious effort 30 years ago to bring about an eventual evangelical "revolution"...the first step was reagan.....

but..as for them and hunting....dunno....

Peter VV Oct 28, 2007 2:59 PM Re: pro huntin slant

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not noticed anything over here, hunting been delayed due to the bluetongue, etc.

Is this anything to do with the apparent surge in right wing christians that appears to be going on over there?

Peter H

 

 

fraggle <EBbrewpunx (AT) earthlink (DOT) net>vegan chat ; TFHB <TFHB >Sunday, 28 October, 2007 9:53:04 PM pro huntin slant

 

for the last several months, i've noticed a definate surge in pro-hunting culture out there.i've seen a slew of news stories bemoaning the loss of "hunter culture", and how it HURTS wildlife when there are elss huntersthe last couple weeks there's been a commercial proclaiming show hunting channel on the tv (can't recall what it is..begins with a V)and..now...even National Geographic is in on ithttp://magma. nationalgeograph ic.com/ngm/ 2007-11/hunters/ poole-text. htmlsomeones making a concerted push out there...anyone else notice that over here in the colonies?how about you limeys?fraggleReal knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance. Confucius

 

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hiking in the midwest a couple decades ago, came across a pickup

truck parked along an access road with the bumper sticker " god

guns and guts " and something like " it's what makes america

great " -- so that kind of thing has been simmering in certain

parts of the country for a while

 

also used to see preteens walking around with rifles, when I was

out on long bicycle rides in the rolling hills

 

So of course I thought I could get away from that mindset if I

moved back to one of the coasts. Alas.

 

Maybe the prohunting push (I hadn't noticed it, aside from the

veep's strange episode) has to do with stress levels -- I vaguely

recall psych experiments where as the stress levels increase, the

critters start turning against each other and the society becomes more

violent.

 

But then I also heard Wangari M... (past Nobel prize winner) on

the radio today. Asked why she bothers doing anything when doom looms,

she said she tells the story of the hummingbird who, to put out a

fire, would fly back and forth with a drop of water. THe other animals

gave up in the face of an immense task and certain failure, but the

hummingbird did what she could... (something like that).

 

 

At 4:15 PM -0700 10/28/07, fraggle wrote:

that surge alas has been going on for years...

 

there was a conscious effort 30 years ago to bring about an

eventual evangelical " revolution " ...the first step was

reagan.....

 

but..as for them and hunting....dunno....

 

 

Peter VV

Oct 28, 2007 2:59 PM

 

Re: pro huntin slant

 

Not noticed anything over here, hunting been delayed due to the

bluetongue, etc.

Is this anything to do with the apparent surge in right wing

christians that appears to be going on over there?

 

Peter H

 

 

 

 

 

fraggle <EBbrewpunx

vegan chat ; TFHB

<TFHB >

Sunday, 28 October, 2007 9:53:04 PM

pro huntin slant

 

for the last several months, i've noticed a definate surge in

pro-hunting culture out there.

i've seen a slew of news stories bemoaning the loss of " hunter

culture " , and how it HURTS wildlife when there are elss

hunters

the last couple weeks there's been a commercial proclaiming show

hunting channel on the tv (can't recall what it is..begins with a

V)

and..now...even National Geographic is in on it

http://magma. nationalgeograph ic.com/ngm/ 2007-11/hunters/

poole-text. html

 

someones making a concerted push out there...

 

anyone else notice that over here in the colonies?

how about you limeys?

 

fraggle

 

Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance.

Confucius

 

 

 

 

For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit

For Good this month.

 

 

 

 

Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance.

Confucius

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It's gone a bit quieter here about the hunting with dogs at present.

 

Jo

 

, fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote:

>

> for the last several months, i've noticed a definate surge in pro-

hunting culture out there.

> i've seen a slew of news stories bemoaning the loss of " hunter

culture " , and how it HURTS wildlife when there are elss hunters

> the last couple weeks there's been a commercial proclaiming show

hunting channel on the tv (can't recall what it is..begins with a V)

> and..now...even National Geographic is in on it

> http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/2007-11/hunters/poole-

text.html

>

> someones making a concerted push out there...

>

> anyone else notice that over here in the colonies?

> how about you limeys?

>

> fraggle

>

> Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance.

> Confucius

>

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bacchus knows you can buy in a rifle in any wal-mart in wyoming...

as an aside..there was a news item recently somewhere on whether people beleive in ghosts or not...and there were a number of comments at the end..and one person wrote in "when i was a boy, i was terrified of a ghost, and i saw one in my closet one night, so i shot it with my rifle. my parents sure were upset that i put wholes in my good white shirt"

and, all i could think was "wait..you kept aloaded rifle by the side of yer bed? waiting for commies under the bed??? what the??"

fraggle

yarrow Oct 28, 2007 8:00 PM Re: pro huntin slant

 

 

 

 

hiking in the midwest a couple decades ago, came across a pickup truck parked along an access road with the bumper sticker "god guns and guts" and something like "it's what makes america great" -- so that kind of thing has been simmering in certain parts of the country for a while

 

also used to see preteens walking around with rifles, when I was out on long bicycle rides in the rolling hills

 

So of course I thought I could get away from that mindset if I moved back to one of the coasts. Alas.

 

Maybe the prohunting push (I hadn't noticed it, aside from the veep's strange episode) has to do with stress levels -- I vaguely recall psych experiments where as the stress levels increase, the critters start turning against each other and the society becomes more violent.

 

But then I also heard Wangari M... (past Nobel prize winner) on the radio today. Asked why she bothers doing anything when doom looms, she said she tells the story of the hummingbird who, to put out a fire, would fly back and forth with a drop of water. THe other animals gave up in the face of an immense task and certain failure, but the hummingbird did what she could... (something like that).

 

 

At 4:15 PM -0700 10/28/07, fraggle wrote:

that surge alas has been going on for years...

there was a conscious effort 30 years ago to bring about an eventual evangelical "revolution"...the first step was reagan.....

but..as for them and hunting....dunno....

Peter VVOct 28, 2007 2:59 PM Subject: Re: pro huntin slant

Not noticed anything over here, hunting been delayed due to the bluetongue, etc.

Is this anything to do with the apparent surge in right wing christians that appears to be going on over there?

Peter H

 

 

fraggle <EBbrewpunx (AT) earthlink (DOT) net>vegan chat ; TFHB <TFHB >Sunday, 28 October, 2007 9:53:04 PM pro huntin slant

for the last several months, i've noticed a definate surge in pro-hunting culture out there.i've seen a slew of news stories bemoaning the loss of "hunter culture", and how it HURTS wildlife when there are elss huntersthe last couple weeks there's been a commercial proclaiming show hunting channel on the tv (can't recall what it is..begins with a V)and..now...even National Geographic is in on ithttp://magma. nationalgeograph ic.com/ngm/ 2007-11/hunters/ poole-text. htmlsomeones making a concerted push out there...anyone else notice that over here in the colonies?how about you limeys?fraggleReal knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance.Confucius

 

 

 

For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit For Good this month.

 

Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance.Confucius

 

 

 

 

 

 

Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance.

Confucius

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Their first step was a senile hollywood has been?.....................ha,ha,ha,ha,ha

God help them............ :)

Peter H

 

 

fraggle <EBbrewpunx Sent: Sunday, 28 October, 2007 11:15:21 PMRe: pro huntin slant

 

 

that surge alas has been going on for years...

there was a conscious effort 30 years ago to bring about an eventual evangelical "revolution" ...the first step was reagan.....

but..as for them and hunting....dunno. ...

Peter VV Oct 28, 2007 2:59 PM @gro ups.com Re: pro huntin slant

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not noticed anything over here, hunting been delayed due to the bluetongue, etc.

Is this anything to do with the apparent surge in right wing christians that appears to be going on over there?

Peter H

 

 

fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.net>vegan chat <@gro ups.com>; TFHB <TFHB >Sunday, 28 October, 2007 9:53:04 PM pro huntin slant

 

for the last several months, i've noticed a definate surge in pro-hunting culture out there.i've seen a slew of news stories bemoaning the loss of "hunter culture", and how it HURTS wildlife when there are elss huntersthe last couple weeks there's been a commercial proclaiming show hunting channel on the tv (can't recall what it is..begins with a V)and..now...even National Geographic is in on ithttp://magma. nationalgeograph ic.com/ngm/ 2007-11/hunters/ poole-text. htmlsomeones making a concerted push out there...anyone else notice that over here in the colonies?how about you limeys?fraggleReal knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance. Confucius

 

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Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance. Confucius

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ha ha -- and they've followed up with a crew of incompetents who

give each other awards for doing a " heckuva job " while

destroying whatever they can get their greedy mitts on

 

 

 

At 6:06 PM +0000 10/29/07, Peter VV wrote:

Their first step was a senile hollywood has

been?.....................ha,ha,ha,ha,ha

God help them............ :)

 

Peter H

 

 

 

 

 

fraggle <EBbrewpunx

 

Sunday, 28 October, 2007 11:15:21 PM

Re: pro huntin slant

 

that surge alas has been going on for years...

 

there was a conscious effort 30 years ago to bring about an

eventual evangelical " revolution " ...the first step was

reagan.....

 

but..as for them and hunting....dunno. ...

 

 

Peter VV

Oct 28, 2007 2:59 PM

@gro ups.com

Re: pro huntin slant

 

Not noticed anything over here, hunting been delayed due to the

bluetongue, etc.

Is this anything to do with the apparent surge in right wing

christians that appears to be going on over there?

 

Peter H

 

 

 

 

 

fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.net>

vegan chat <@gro ups.com>; TFHB

<TFHB >

Sunday, 28 October, 2007 9:53:04 PM

pro huntin slant

 

for the last several months, i've noticed a definate surge in

pro-hunting culture out there.

i've seen a slew of news stories bemoaning the loss of " hunter

culture " , and how it HURTS wildlife when there are elss

hunters

the last couple weeks there's been a commercial proclaiming show

hunting channel on the tv (can't recall what it is..begins with a

V)

and..now...even National Geographic is in on it

http://magma. nationalgeograph ic.com/ngm/ 2007-11/hunters/

poole-text. html

 

someones making a concerted push out there...

 

anyone else notice that over here in the colonies?

how about you limeys?

 

fraggle

 

Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance.

Confucius

 

 

 

 

For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit

For Good this month.

 

 

Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance.

Confucius

 

 

 

For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit

For Good this month.

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a senille hollywood has been who subsequently was elected president twice...and got the ball rolling

Peter VV Oct 29, 2007 11:06 AM Re: pro huntin slant

 

 

 

 

 

 

Their first step was a senile hollywood has been?.....................ha,ha,ha,ha,ha

God help them............ :)

Peter H

 

 

fraggle <EBbrewpunx (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> Sent: Sunday, 28 October, 2007 11:15:21 PMRe: pro huntin slant

 

 

that surge alas has been going on for years...

there was a conscious effort 30 years ago to bring about an eventual evangelical "revolution" ...the first step was reagan.....

but..as for them and hunting....dunno. ...

Peter VV Oct 28, 2007 2:59 PM @gro ups.com Re: pro huntin slant

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not noticed anything over here, hunting been delayed due to the bluetongue, etc.

Is this anything to do with the apparent surge in right wing christians that appears to be going on over there?

Peter H

 

 

fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.net>vegan chat <@gro ups.com>; TFHB <TFHB >Sunday, 28 October, 2007 9:53:04 PM pro huntin slant

 

for the last several months, i've noticed a definate surge in pro-hunting culture out there.i've seen a slew of news stories bemoaning the loss of "hunter culture", and how it HURTS wildlife when there are elss huntersthe last couple weeks there's been a commercial proclaiming show hunting channel on the tv (can't recall what it is..begins with a V)and..now...even National Geographic is in on ithttp://magma. nationalgeograph ic.com/ngm/ 2007-11/hunters/ poole-text. htmlsomeones making a concerted push out there...anyone else notice that over here in the colonies?how about you limeys?fraggleReal knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance. Confucius

 

For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit For Good this month. Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance. Confucius

 

For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit For Good this month.

 

 

 

 

Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance.

Confucius

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figurehead/puppet/whatever.............one president who f***s up his speaches is as good as any other I suppose, just trying to do as they are told...........

Peter H

 

 

fraggle <EBbrewpunx Sent: Monday, 29 October, 2007 7:11:37 PMRe: pro huntin slant

 

a senille hollywood has been who subsequently was elected president twice...and got the ball rolling

Peter VV Oct 29, 2007 11:06 AM @gro ups.com Re: pro huntin slant

 

 

 

 

 

 

Their first step was a senile hollywood has been?....... ......... .....ha,ha, ha,ha,ha

God help them........ .... :)

Peter H

 

 

fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.net>@gro ups.comSunday, 28 October, 2007 11:15:21 PMRe: pro huntin slant

 

 

that surge alas has been going on for years...

there was a conscious effort 30 years ago to bring about an eventual evangelical "revolution" ...the first step was reagan.....

but..as for them and hunting....dunno. ...

Peter VV Oct 28, 2007 2:59 PM @gro ups.com Re: pro huntin slant

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not noticed anything over here, hunting been delayed due to the bluetongue, etc.

Is this anything to do with the apparent surge in right wing christians that appears to be going on over there?

Peter H

 

 

fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.net>vegan chat <@gro ups.com>; TFHB <TFHB >Sunday, 28 October, 2007 9:53:04 PM pro huntin slant

 

for the last several months, i've noticed a definate surge in pro-hunting culture out there.i've seen a slew of news stories bemoaning the loss of "hunter culture", and how it HURTS wildlife when there are elss huntersthe last couple weeks there's been a commercial proclaiming show hunting channel on the tv (can't recall what it is..begins with a V)and..now...even National Geographic is in on ithttp://magma. nationalgeograph ic.com/ngm/ 2007-11/hunters/ poole-text. htmlsomeones making a concerted push out there...anyone else notice that over here in the colonies?how about you limeys?fraggleReal knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance. Confucius

 

For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit For Good this month. Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance. Confucius

 

For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit For Good this month.

Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance. Confucius

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