bee gone

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the wild population must be suffering big time...

the european honey bee is just starting to show up regularly in my

backyard...numbers are waaaaay down

 

hope the native bumble bee and solitary bee population is going to rebound....

 

 

 

More commercial bee colonies lost

Survey: 36.1 percent of nation's commercially managed hives lost since

last year

 

New diseases, pesticide drift, old enemies like parasitic mite blamed

 

Survey included 327 operators -- 19 percent of U.S. commercial

beehives

 

About 29 percent of deaths due to collapse disorder, in which bees

abandon hives

 

 

 

SAN FRANCISCO, California (AP) -- A survey of bee health released

Tuesday revealed a grim picture, with 36.1 percent of the nation's

commercially managed hives lost since last year.

 

 

Bees are dying at unsustainable levels, the president of the Apiary

Inspectors of America says.

 

Last year's survey commissioned by the Apiary Inspectors of America

found losses of about 32 percent.

 

As beekeepers travel with their hives this spring to pollinate crops

around the country, it's clear the insects are buckling under the

weight of new diseases, pesticide drift and old enemies like the

parasitic varroa mite, said Dennis vanEngelsdorp, president of the

group.

 

This is the second year the association has measured colony deaths

across the country. This means there aren't enough numbers to show a

trend, but clearly bees are dying at unsustainable levels and the

situation is not improving, said vanEngelsdorp, also a bee expert with

the Pennsylvania Department of Agriculture.

 

" For two years in a row, we've sustained a substantial loss, " he said.

" That's an astonishing number. Imagine if one out of every three cows,

or one out of every three chickens, were dying. That would raise a lot

of alarm. "

 

The survey included 327 operators who account for 19 percent of the

country's approximately 2.44 million commercially managed beehives.

The data is being prepared for submission to a journal.

 

About 29 percent of the deaths were due to colony collapse disorder, a

mysterious disease that causes adult bees to abandon their hives.

Beekeepers who saw CCD in their hives were much more likely to have

major losses than those who didn't.

 

" What's frightening about CCD is that it's not predictable or

understood, " vanEngelsdorp said.

 

On Tuesday, Pennsylvania Agriculture Secretary Dennis Wolff announced

that the state would pour an additional $20,400 into research at

Pennsylvania State University looking for the causes of CCD. This

raises emergency funds dedicated to investigating the disease to

$86,000.

 

The issue also has attracted federal grants and funding from companies

that depend on honeybees, including ice-cream maker Haagen-Dazs.

 

Because the berries, fruits and nuts that give about 28 of Haagen-

Dazs' varieties flavor depend on honeybees for pollination, the

company is donating up to $250,000 to CCD and sustainable pollination

research at Penn State and the University of California, Davis.

 

 

What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know, it's what we know for sure

that just ain't so.

- Mark Twain

[Guest guest]

Butterflies too have had a hard time of it with a wet summer over here last year, just hoping its gonna be dryer for them this year.

 

 

Peter H

 

 

fraggle <EBbrewpunxvegan chat ; TFHB <TFHB >Wednesday, 7 May, 2008 7:44:56 PM bee gone

 

the wild population must be suffering big time...the european honey bee is just starting to show up regularly in my backyard...numbers are waaaaay downhope the native bumble bee and solitary bee population is going to rebound....More commercial bee colonies lostSurvey: 36.1 percent of nation's commercially managed hives lost sincelast yearNew diseases, pesticide drift, old enemies like parasitic mite blamedSurvey included 327 operators -- 19 percent of U.S. commercialbeehivesAbout 29 percent of deaths due to collapse disorder, in which beesabandon hivesSAN FRANCISCO, California (AP) -- A survey of bee health releasedTuesday revealed a grim picture, with 36.1 percent of the nation'scommercially managed hives lost since last year.Bees are dying at unsustainable levels, the president of the ApiaryInspectors of America says.Last year's survey commissioned by

the Apiary Inspectors of Americafound losses of about 32 percent.As beekeepers travel with their hives this spring to pollinate cropsaround the country, it's clear the insects are buckling under theweight of new diseases, pesticide drift and old enemies like theparasitic varroa mite, said Dennis vanEngelsdorp, president of thegroup.This is the second year the association has measured colony deathsacross the country. This means there aren't enough numbers to show atrend, but clearly bees are dying at unsustainable levels and thesituation is not improving, said vanEngelsdorp, also a bee expert withthe Pennsylvania Department of Agriculture."For two years in a row, we've sustained a substantial loss," he said."That's an astonishing number. Imagine if one out of every three cows,or one out of every three chickens, were dying. That would raise a lotof alarm."The survey included

327 operators who account for 19 percent of thecountry's approximately 2.44 million commercially managed beehives.The data is being prepared for submission to a journal.About 29 percent of the deaths were due to colony collapse disorder, amysterious disease that causes adult bees to abandon their hives.Beekeepers who saw CCD in their hives were much more likely to havemajor losses than those who didn't."What's frightening about CCD is that it's not predictable orunderstood," vanEngelsdorp said.On Tuesday, Pennsylvania Agriculture Secretary Dennis Wolff announcedthat the state would pour an additional $20,400 into research atPennsylvania State University looking for the causes of CCD. Thisraises emergency funds dedicated to investigating the disease to$86,000.The issue also has attracted federal grants and funding from companiesthat depend on honeybees, including ice-cream maker

Haagen-Dazs.Because the berries, fruits and nuts that give about 28 of Haagen-Dazs' varieties flavor depend on honeybees for pollination, thecompany is donating up to $250,000 to CCD and sustainable pollinationresearch at Penn State and the University of California, Davis.What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know, it's what we know for sure that just ain't so.- Mark Twain

 

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I haven't seen one of those cute fuzzy honey bees, in years, but the monarch butterfly population seems to be coming back maybe thats a sign.--- On Wed, 5/7/08, fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote:

fraggle <EBbrewpunx bee gone"vegan chat" , "TFHB" <TFHB >Wednesday, May 7, 2008, 6:44 PM

 

 

the wild population must be suffering big time...the european honey bee is just starting to show up regularly in my backyard...numbers are waaaaay downhope the native bumble bee and solitary bee population is going to rebound....More commercial bee colonies lostSurvey: 36.1 percent of nation's commercially managed hives lost sincelast yearNew diseases, pesticide drift, old enemies like parasitic mite blamedSurvey included 327 operators -- 19 percent of U.S. commercialbeehivesAbout 29 percent of deaths due to collapse disorder, in which beesabandon hivesSAN FRANCISCO, California (AP) -- A survey of bee health releasedTuesday revealed a grim picture, with 36.1 percent of the nation'scommercially managed hives lost since last year.Bees are dying at unsustainable levels, the president of the ApiaryInspectors of America says.Last year's survey commissioned by

the Apiary Inspectors of Americafound losses of about 32 percent.As beekeepers travel with their hives this spring to pollinate cropsaround the country, it's clear the insects are buckling under theweight of new diseases, pesticide drift and old enemies like theparasitic varroa mite, said Dennis vanEngelsdorp, president of thegroup.This is the second year the association has measured colony deathsacross the country. This means there aren't enough numbers to show atrend, but clearly bees are dying at unsustainable levels and thesituation is not improving, said vanEngelsdorp, also a bee expert withthe Pennsylvania Department of Agriculture."For two years in a row, we've sustained a substantial loss," he said."That's an astonishing number. Imagine if one out of every three cows,or one out of every three chickens, were dying. That would raise a lotof alarm."The survey included

327 operators who account for 19 percent of thecountry's approximately 2.44 million commercially managed beehives.The data is being prepared for submission to a journal.About 29 percent of the deaths were due to colony collapse disorder, amysterious disease that causes adult bees to abandon their hives.Beekeepers who saw CCD in their hives were much more likely to havemajor losses than those who didn't."What's frightening about CCD is that it's not predictable orunderstood," vanEngelsdorp said.On Tuesday, Pennsylvania Agriculture Secretary Dennis Wolff announcedthat the state would pour an additional $20,400 into research atPennsylvania State University looking for the causes of CCD. Thisraises emergency funds dedicated to investigating the disease to$86,000.The issue also has attracted federal grants and funding from companiesthat depend on honeybees, including ice-cream maker

Haagen-Dazs.Because the berries, fruits and nuts that give about 28 of Haagen-Dazs' varieties flavor depend on honeybees for pollination, thecompany is donating up to $250,000 to CCD and sustainable pollinationresearch at Penn State and the University of California, Davis.What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know, it's what we know for sure that just ain't so.- Mark Twain

[Guest guest]

You seem to bee a hive of information. Were do bees go after the year is over, do they migrate, or do the stay in the same hive? If they make new hives every year do you think theres any honey left over.I feel like Pooh Bear all of the sudden. LIS Laugh in side--- On Wed, 5/7/08, fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote:

fraggle <EBbrewpunx bee gone"vegan chat" , "TFHB" <TFHB >Wednesday, May 7, 2008, 6:44 PM

 

 

the wild population must be suffering big time...the european honey bee is just starting to show up regularly in my backyard...numbers are waaaaay downhope the native bumble bee and solitary bee population is going to rebound....More commercial bee colonies lostSurvey: 36.1 percent of nation's commercially managed hives lost sincelast yearNew diseases, pesticide drift, old enemies like parasitic mite blamedSurvey included 327 operators -- 19 percent of U.S. commercialbeehivesAbout 29 percent of deaths due to collapse disorder, in which beesabandon hivesSAN FRANCISCO, California (AP) -- A survey of bee health releasedTuesday revealed a grim picture, with 36.1 percent of the nation'scommercially managed hives lost since last year.Bees are dying at unsustainable levels, the president of the ApiaryInspectors of America says.Last year's survey commissioned by

the Apiary Inspectors of Americafound losses of about 32 percent.As beekeepers travel with their hives this spring to pollinate cropsaround the country, it's clear the insects are buckling under theweight of new diseases, pesticide drift and old enemies like theparasitic varroa mite, said Dennis vanEngelsdorp, president of thegroup.This is the second year the association has measured colony deathsacross the country. This means there aren't enough numbers to show atrend, but clearly bees are dying at unsustainable levels and thesituation is not improving, said vanEngelsdorp, also a bee expert withthe Pennsylvania Department of Agriculture."For two years in a row, we've sustained a substantial loss," he said."That's an astonishing number. Imagine if one out of every three cows,or one out of every three chickens, were dying. That would raise a lotof alarm."The survey included

327 operators who account for 19 percent of thecountry's approximately 2.44 million commercially managed beehives.The data is being prepared for submission to a journal.About 29 percent of the deaths were due to colony collapse disorder, amysterious disease that causes adult bees to abandon their hives.Beekeepers who saw CCD in their hives were much more likely to havemajor losses than those who didn't."What's frightening about CCD is that it's not predictable orunderstood," vanEngelsdorp said.On Tuesday, Pennsylvania Agriculture Secretary Dennis Wolff announcedthat the state would pour an additional $20,400 into research atPennsylvania State University looking for the causes of CCD. Thisraises emergency funds dedicated to investigating the disease to$86,000.The issue also has attracted federal grants and funding from companiesthat depend on honeybees, including ice-cream maker

Haagen-Dazs.Because the berries, fruits and nuts that give about 28 of Haagen-Dazs' varieties flavor depend on honeybees for pollination, thecompany is donating up to $250,000 to CCD and sustainable pollinationresearch at Penn State and the University of California, Davis.What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know, it's what we know for sure that just ain't so.- Mark Twain

[Guest guest]

Those beekeeper may want research the area before going there. --- On Wed, 5/7/08, fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote:

fraggle <EBbrewpunx bee gone"vegan chat" , "TFHB" <TFHB >Wednesday, May 7, 2008, 6:44 PM

 

 

the wild population must be suffering big time...the european honey bee is just starting to show up regularly in my backyard...numbers are waaaaay downhope the native bumble bee and solitary bee population is going to rebound....More commercial bee colonies lostSurvey: 36.1 percent of nation's commercially managed hives lost sincelast yearNew diseases, pesticide drift, old enemies like parasitic mite blamedSurvey included 327 operators -- 19 percent of U.S. commercialbeehivesAbout 29 percent of deaths due to collapse disorder, in which beesabandon hivesSAN FRANCISCO, California (AP) -- A survey of bee health releasedTuesday revealed a grim picture, with 36.1 percent of the nation'scommercially managed hives lost since last year.Bees are dying at unsustainable levels, the president of the ApiaryInspectors of America says.Last year's survey commissioned by

the Apiary Inspectors of Americafound losses of about 32 percent.As beekeepers travel with their hives this spring to pollinate cropsaround the country, it's clear the insects are buckling under theweight of new diseases, pesticide drift and old enemies like theparasitic varroa mite, said Dennis vanEngelsdorp, president of thegroup.This is the second year the association has measured colony deathsacross the country. This means there aren't enough numbers to show atrend, but clearly bees are dying at unsustainable levels and thesituation is not improving, said vanEngelsdorp, also a bee expert withthe Pennsylvania Department of Agriculture."For two years in a row, we've sustained a substantial loss," he said."That's an astonishing number. Imagine if one out of every three cows,or one out of every three chickens, were dying. That would raise a lotof alarm."The survey included

327 operators who account for 19 percent of thecountry's approximately 2.44 million commercially managed beehives.The data is being prepared for submission to a journal.About 29 percent of the deaths were due to colony collapse disorder, amysterious disease that causes adult bees to abandon their hives.Beekeepers who saw CCD in their hives were much more likely to havemajor losses than those who didn't."What's frightening about CCD is that it's not predictable orunderstood," vanEngelsdorp said.On Tuesday, Pennsylvania Agriculture Secretary Dennis Wolff announcedthat the state would pour an additional $20,400 into research atPennsylvania State University looking for the causes of CCD. Thisraises emergency funds dedicated to investigating the disease to$86,000.The issue also has attracted federal grants and funding from companiesthat depend on honeybees, including ice-cream maker

Haagen-Dazs.Because the berries, fruits and nuts that give about 28 of Haagen-Dazs' varieties flavor depend on honeybees for pollination, thecompany is donating up to $250,000 to CCD and sustainable pollinationresearch at Penn State and the University of California, Davis.What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know, it's what we know for sure that just ain't so.- Mark Twain

[Guest guest]

Darwin wrote about species reproducing enough to survive but also spoke about how domesticated breeds tend to revert back to natrual for berhaps the should release mor honey bees of course the real threat is them becoming africanized evolution my friend survival of the fittest what do african bees feed there young if not honey.--- On Wed, 5/7/08, fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote:

fraggle <EBbrewpunx bee gone"vegan chat" , "TFHB" <TFHB >Wednesday, May 7, 2008, 6:44 PM

 

 

the wild population must be suffering big time...the european honey bee is just starting to show up regularly in my backyard...numbers are waaaaay downhope the native bumble bee and solitary bee population is going to rebound....More commercial bee colonies lostSurvey: 36.1 percent of nation's commercially managed hives lost sincelast yearNew diseases, pesticide drift, old enemies like parasitic mite blamedSurvey included 327 operators -- 19 percent of U.S. commercialbeehivesAbout 29 percent of deaths due to collapse disorder, in which beesabandon hivesSAN FRANCISCO, California (AP) -- A survey of bee health releasedTuesday revealed a grim picture, with 36.1 percent of the nation'scommercially managed hives lost since last year.Bees are dying at unsustainable levels, the president of the ApiaryInspectors of America says.Last year's survey commissioned by

the Apiary Inspectors of Americafound losses of about 32 percent.As beekeepers travel with their hives this spring to pollinate cropsaround the country, it's clear the insects are buckling under theweight of new diseases, pesticide drift and old enemies like theparasitic varroa mite, said Dennis vanEngelsdorp, president of thegroup.This is the second year the association has measured colony deathsacross the country. This means there aren't enough numbers to show atrend, but clearly bees are dying at unsustainable levels and thesituation is not improving, said vanEngelsdorp, also a bee expert withthe Pennsylvania Department of Agriculture."For two years in a row, we've sustained a substantial loss," he said."That's an astonishing number. Imagine if one out of every three cows,or one out of every three chickens, were dying. That would raise a lotof alarm."The survey included

327 operators who account for 19 percent of thecountry's approximately 2.44 million commercially managed beehives.The data is being prepared for submission to a journal.About 29 percent of the deaths were due to colony collapse disorder, amysterious disease that causes adult bees to abandon their hives.Beekeepers who saw CCD in their hives were much more likely to havemajor losses than those who didn't."What's frightening about CCD is that it's not predictable orunderstood," vanEngelsdorp said.On Tuesday, Pennsylvania Agriculture Secretary Dennis Wolff announcedthat the state would pour an additional $20,400 into research atPennsylvania State University looking for the causes of CCD. Thisraises emergency funds dedicated to investigating the disease to$86,000.The issue also has attracted federal grants and funding from companiesthat depend on honeybees, including ice-cream maker

Haagen-Dazs.Because the berries, fruits and nuts that give about 28 of Haagen-Dazs' varieties flavor depend on honeybees for pollination, thecompany is donating up to $250,000 to CCD and sustainable pollinationresearch at Penn State and the University of California, Davis.What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know, it's what we know for sure that just ain't so.- Mark Twain

[Guest guest]

depends on the type of bee...

the european honey bee (which we are most familiar with) lives in its hive all year long. in winter, the hive goes dormant, with the bees just moving around enough to create heat within the hive to keep them alive. they use the honey they stored up over the year to survive.

European honey bees periodically create new hives when the old hive becomes over crowded. the create a queens by feeding the larva royal jelly. queens are created when the hive becomes overcrowded, the old queen becomes old, or if the queen suddenly dies.

Now, other bee species can be different. it all depends on the species. some create small nests, many of which are burrows, some create nests in which they lay the eggs and then leave the nests to hatch on their own (certain bumble bees, mason bees, etc)...

 

Angelo Dicks May 17, 2008 3:04 PM Cc: angelod119 Re: bee gone

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You seem to bee a hive of information. Were do bees go after the year is over, do they migrate, or do the stay in the same hive? If they make new hives every year do you think theres any honey left over.I feel like Pooh Bear all of the sudden. LIS Laugh in side--- On Wed, 5/7/08, fraggle <EBbrewpunx (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote:

fraggle <EBbrewpunx (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> bee gone"vegan chat" , "TFHB" <TFHB >Wednesday, May 7, 2008, 6:44 PM

 

 

the wild population must be suffering big time...the european honey bee is just starting to show up regularly in my backyard...numbers are waaaaay downhope the native bumble bee and solitary bee population is going to rebound....More commercial bee colonies lostSurvey: 36.1 percent of nation's commercially managed hives lost sincelast yearNew diseases, pesticide drift, old enemies like parasitic mite blamedSurvey included 327 operators -- 19 percent of U.S. commercialbeehivesAbout 29 percent of deaths due to collapse disorder, in which beesabandon hivesSAN FRANCISCO, California (AP) -- A survey of bee health releasedTuesday revealed a grim picture, with 36.1 percent of the nation'scommercially managed hives lost since last year.Bees are dying at unsustainable levels, the president of the ApiaryInspectors of America says.Last year's survey commissioned by the Apiary Inspectors of Americafound losses of about 32 percent.As beekeepers travel with their hives this spring to pollinate cropsaround the country, it's clear the insects are buckling under theweight of new diseases, pesticide drift and old enemies like theparasitic varroa mite, said Dennis vanEngelsdorp, president of thegroup.This is the second year the association has measured colony deathsacross the country. This means there aren't enough numbers to show atrend, but clearly bees are dying at unsustainable levels and thesituation is not improving, said vanEngelsdorp, also a bee expert withthe Pennsylvania Department of Agriculture."For two years in a row, we've sustained a substantial loss," he said."That's an astonishing number. Imagine if one out of every three cows,or one out of every three chickens, were dying. That would raise a lotof alarm."The survey included 327 operators who account for 19 percent of thecountry's approximately 2.44 million commercially managed beehives.The data is being prepared for submission to a journal.About 29 percent of the deaths were due to colony collapse disorder, amysterious disease that causes adult bees to abandon their hives.Beekeepers who saw CCD in their hives were much more likely to havemajor losses than those who didn't."What's frightening about CCD is that it's not predictable orunderstood," vanEngelsdorp said.On Tuesday, Pennsylvania Agriculture Secretary Dennis Wolff announcedthat the state would pour an additional $20,400 into research atPennsylvania State University looking for the causes of CCD. Thisraises emergency funds dedicated to investigating the disease to$86,000.The issue also has attracted federal grants and funding from companiesthat depend on honeybees, including ice-cream maker Haagen-Dazs.Because the berries, fruits and nuts that give about 28 of Haagen-Dazs' varieties flavor depend on honeybees for pollination, thecompany is donating up to $250,000 to CCD and sustainable pollinationresearch at Penn State and the University of California, Davis.What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know, it's what we know for sure that just ain't so.- Mark Twain

 

 

 

 

What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know, it's what we know for sure that just ain't so.

- Mark Twain

[Guest guest]

africanized bees are just like the european, just more aggressive

in all other facets, they are basically european honey bees, they just developed an attack response (prolly due to everything having a sweet tooth) which is very aggressive...

Angelo Dicks May 17, 2008 3:11 PM Cc: angelod119 Re: bee gone

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Darwin wrote about species reproducing enough to survive but also spoke about how domesticated breeds tend to revert back to natrual for berhaps the should release mor honey bees of course the real threat is them becoming africanized evolution my friend survival of the fittest what do african bees feed there young if not honey.--- On Wed, 5/7/08, fraggle <EBbrewpunx (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote:

fraggle <EBbrewpunx (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> bee gone"vegan chat" , "TFHB" <TFHB >Wednesday, May 7, 2008, 6:44 PM

 

 

the wild population must be suffering big time...the european honey bee is just starting to show up regularly in my backyard...numbers are waaaaay downhope the native bumble bee and solitary bee population is going to rebound....More commercial bee colonies lostSurvey: 36.1 percent of nation's commercially managed hives lost sincelast yearNew diseases, pesticide drift, old enemies like parasitic mite blamedSurvey included 327 operators -- 19 percent of U.S. commercialbeehivesAbout 29 percent of deaths due to collapse disorder, in which beesabandon hivesSAN FRANCISCO, California (AP) -- A survey of bee health releasedTuesday revealed a grim picture, with 36.1 percent of the nation'scommercially managed hives lost since last year.Bees are dying at unsustainable levels, the president of the ApiaryInspectors of America says.Last year's survey commissioned by the Apiary Inspectors of Americafound losses of about 32 percent.As beekeepers travel with their hives this spring to pollinate cropsaround the country, it's clear the insects are buckling under theweight of new diseases, pesticide drift and old enemies like theparasitic varroa mite, said Dennis vanEngelsdorp, president of thegroup.This is the second year the association has measured colony deathsacross the country. This means there aren't enough numbers to show atrend, but clearly bees are dying at unsustainable levels and thesituation is not improving, said vanEngelsdorp, also a bee expert withthe Pennsylvania Department of Agriculture."For two years in a row, we've sustained a substantial loss," he said."That's an astonishing number. Imagine if one out of every three cows,or one out of every three chickens, were dying. That would raise a lotof alarm."The survey included 327 operators who account for 19 percent of thecountry's approximately 2.44 million commercially managed beehives.The data is being prepared for submission to a journal.About 29 percent of the deaths were due to colony collapse disorder, amysterious disease that causes adult bees to abandon their hives.Beekeepers who saw CCD in their hives were much more likely to havemajor losses than those who didn't."What's frightening about CCD is that it's not predictable orunderstood," vanEngelsdorp said.On Tuesday, Pennsylvania Agriculture Secretary Dennis Wolff announcedthat the state would pour an additional $20,400 into research atPennsylvania State University looking for the causes of CCD. Thisraises emergency funds dedicated to investigating the disease to$86,000.The issue also has attracted federal grants and funding from companiesthat depend on honeybees, including ice-cream maker Haagen-Dazs.Because the berries, fruits and nuts that give about 28 of Haagen-Dazs' varieties flavor depend on honeybees for pollination, thecompany is donating up to $250,000 to CCD and sustainable pollinationresearch at Penn State and the University of California, Davis.What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know, it's what we know for sure that just ain't so.- Mark Twain

 

 

 

 

What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know, it's what we know for sure that just ain't so.

- Mark Twain