Guest guest Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 Hi Fraggle I think we're doing quite well at out-fascisting the US right now... they've just passed a law which allows the police to detain " terrorist suspects " without charge for 42 days... yep - 42 whole days without having to let the suspect know what it is they're supposed to have done!!!! I'm thinking it won't be long before the more politically active of us in the UK will be needing to seek political assylum in some safer country like Rwanda or Burma.... BB Peter - " fraggle " <EBbrewpunx " vegan chat " Thursday, June 12, 2008 7:01 PM i see yer trying to out fascist the US over across the pond [indymedia UK] Following a lengthy police investigation and an 18-week trial costing over £4.5 million, the operator of a website criticising animal testing company Sequani, has been jailed for four and a half years for organising a legal protest. In an unprecedented case, the press were barred from reporting the trial, witnesses were bussed into the court and mobile phones were even confiscated from the public before they entered the gallery and the jury. The atmosphere was more akin to a terrorist trial than one relating to non-violent protest, which made the charges appear far more sinister than they in fact were. The choice of judge was also considered highly questionable considering he is a keen hunter. Sean Kirtley was found guilty under Section 145 of the SOCPA law for " Interfering with the contractual relationships of a Laboratory " for allegedly organising protests at Sequani Limited and associated business associates. Police say disorder took place on a occasions during protests and claim as the organiser that Sean is responsible for any criminality that takes place. ..... Kirtley will be lodging an appeal. Kirtley's defence lawyer said: " This case sadly goes to show that animal rights campaigners have been singled out and ordinary criminal law principles have been contorted simply because, in the Government's eyes, powerful commercial interests, founded on animal experimentation, are at risk from effective, open and popular protests. " We urge the press to cover the case because this is not just an issue of an animal rights protester, whose views we understand many members of the media may not share. But as Voltaire once said: " I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it " . We hope that this proves the case today. Most importantly, the case has serious repercussions on the freedom of publishing protest information on the net and the right to protest peacefully, particularly where commercial interests are concerned. ..... The SSAT website was closed down and a new campaign against animal experimentation at Sequani has been started by other activists – http://sequani.wordpress.com Interviews can be arranged with the legal team and campaign press officer by contacting: Name: Chris Dowdeswell Tel: 01452 539673 / 07912 039069 Email: warn -- full story: http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/06/400889.html “We now know that a neo-conservative is an arsonist who sets the house on fire and six years later boasts that no one can put it out.†- Bill Moyers --- To send an email to -! Groups Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 well..we still have Gitmo...lucky us Peter Jun 12, 2008 11:45 AM Re: i see yer trying to out fascist the US over across the pond Hi FraggleI think we're doing quite well at out-fascisting the US right now... they've just passed a law which allows the police to detain "terrorist suspects" without charge for 42 days... yep - 42 whole days without having to let the suspect know what it is they're supposed to have done!!!!I'm thinking it won't be long before the more politically active of us in the UK will be needing to seek political assylum in some safer country like Rwanda or Burma....BBPeter- "fraggle" <EBbrewpunx (AT) earthlink (DOT) net>"vegan chat" Thursday, June 12, 2008 7:01 PM i see yer trying to out fascist the US over across the pond[indymedia UK]Following a lengthy police investigation and an 18-week trial costingover £4.5 million, the operator of a website criticising animaltesting company Sequani, has been jailed for four and a half years fororganising a legal protest.In an unprecedented case, the press were barred from reporting thetrial, witnesses were bussed into the court and mobile phones wereeven confiscated from the public before they entered the gallery andthe jury. The atmosphere was more akin to a terrorist trial than onerelating to non-violent protest, which made the charges appear farmore sinister than they in fact were. The choice of judge was alsoconsidered highly questionable considering he is a keen hunter.Sean Kirtley was found guilty under Section 145 of the SOCPA law for"Interfering with the contractual relationships of a Laboratory" forallegedly organising protests at Sequani Limited and associatedbusiness associates. Police say disorder took place on a occasionsduring protests and claim as the organiser that Sean is responsiblefor any criminality that takes place.....Kirtley will be lodging an appeal. Kirtley's defence lawyer said:"This case sadly goes to show that animal rights campaigners have beensingled out and ordinary criminal law principles have been contortedsimply because, in the Government's eyes, powerful commercialinterests, founded on animal experimentation, are at risk fromeffective, open and popular protests."We urge the press to cover the case because this is not just an issueof an animal rights protester, whose views we understand many membersof the media may not share. But as Voltaire once said: "I disapproveof what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it".We hope that this proves the case today.Most importantly, the case has serious repercussions on the freedom ofpublishing protest information on the net and the right to protestpeacefully, particularly where commercial interests are concerned.....The SSAT website was closed down and a new campaign against animalexperimentation at Sequani has been started by other activists –http://sequani.wordpress.comInterviews can be arranged with the legal team and campaign pressofficer by contacting:Name: Chris DowdeswellTel: 01452 539673 / 07912 039069Email: warn (AT) riseup (DOT) net-- full story:http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/06/400889.html“We now know that a neo-conservative is an arsonist who sets the house on fire and six years later boasts that no one can put it out.†- Bill Moyers---To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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