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I guess my question about B12 is that if God wanted us to eat Vegan why isn't B12 in our plants? I don't get it. I believe God got things right, so what happened? My only guess is that the world changed after the flood, which was when God gave us permission to eat meat. Maybe that was because plants with B12 in them disappeared? Any ideas? Anyway, I take a B12 supplement but don't get why this should be necessary. Is B12 not in ANY plants? Something isn't right there.

 

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B12 doesn't come from meat, it comes from the bacteria in meat (and on

plants). Check out info on Spirolina. Read " Becoming Vegan " .

 

 

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On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Shelley <moondrop000 wrote:

> I guess my question about B12 is that if God wanted us to eat Vegan why

> isn't B12 in our plants? I don't get it. I believe God got things right,

> so what happened? My only guess is that the world changed after the flood,

> which was when God gave us permission to eat meat. Maybe that was because

> plants with B12 in them disappeared? Any ideas? Anyway, I take a B12

> supplement but don't get why this should be necessary. Is B12 not in ANY

> plants? Something isn't right there.

>

>

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> Shelley H

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Vitamin B12 is synthesised by bacteria. Meat contains B12 because

the animals eat the plants with dirt on them. If humans eat plants

with dirt on them they may also get enough B12. Because most of us

like to wash our fruit and vegetables before eating we do not get it

~on~ our plants.

 

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, Shelley <moondrop000 wrote:

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> I guess my question about B12 is that if God wanted us to eat Vegan

why isn't B12 in our plants?   I don't get it.   I believe God got

things right, so what happened?   My only guess is that the world

changed after the flood, which was when God gave us permission to eat

meat.   Maybe that was because plants with B12 in them disappeared?  

Any ideas?   Anyway, I take a B12 supplement but don't get why this

should be necessary.   Is B12 not in ANY plants?    Something isn't

right there.

>  

> Shelley H

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B12 exists in bacteria in soil, goes to show a little bit of dirt never hurt anyone. So if you are being fastidious scrubbing your root veg ( spuds/carrots etc) your depriving yourself of a potential source of b12....

 

 

 

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Shelley <moondrop000 Sent: Sunday, 29 June, 2008 8:59:24 PM Speaking of B12

 

 

 

 

 

 

I guess my question about B12 is that if God wanted us to eat Vegan why isn't B12 in our plants? I don't get it. I believe God got things right, so what happened? My only guess is that the world changed after the flood, which was when God gave us permission to eat meat. Maybe that was because plants with B12 in them disappeared? Any ideas? Anyway, I take a B12 supplement but don't get why this should be necessary. Is B12 not in ANY plants? Something isn't right there.

 

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the vitamin B12 ONLY comes from bacteria. Bacteria produce it as "waste product"

we have b12 producing bacteria in our intestines, but they are too far down the GI tract to be absorbed well

b12 bacteria exist in the soil (or at least they did. before modern agricultural techniques did a number of the soil ecology)

 

Shelley Jun 29, 2008 11:59 AM Speaking of B12

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I guess my question about B12 is that if God wanted us to eat Vegan why isn't B12 in our plants? I don't get it. I believe God got things right, so what happened? My only guess is that the world changed after the flood, which was when God gave us permission to eat meat. Maybe that was because plants with B12 in them disappeared? Any ideas? Anyway, I take a B12 supplement but don't get why this should be necessary. Is B12 not in ANY plants? Something isn't right there.

 

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rebecca still looks askance at me sometimes when i pull the carrots out of the garden and just crunch right into em.

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B12 exists in bacteria in soil, goes to show a little bit of dirt never hurt anyone. So if you are being fastidious scrubbing your root veg ( spuds/carrots etc) your depriving yourself of a potential source of b12....

 

 

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Shelley <moondrop000 > Sent: Sunday, 29 June, 2008 8:59:24 PM Speaking of B12

 

 

 

 

 

 

I guess my question about B12 is that if God wanted us to eat Vegan why isn't B12 in our plants? I don't get it. I believe God got things right, so what happened? My only guess is that the world changed after the flood, which was when God gave us permission to eat meat. Maybe that was because plants with B12 in them disappeared? Any ideas? Anyway, I take a B12 supplement but don't get why this should be necessary. Is B12 not in ANY plants? Something isn't right there.

 

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Still best to scrub them - after all, what else do you get in the dirt?

 

Jo

 

 

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Peter VV

Monday, June 30, 2008 7:42 PM

Re: Speaking of B12

 

 

 

B12 exists in bacteria in soil, goes to show a little bit of dirt never hurt anyone. So if you are being fastidious scrubbing your root veg ( spuds/carrots etc) your depriving yourself of a potential source of b12....

 

 

Peter vv

 

Shelley <moondrop000 > Sent: Sunday, 29 June, 2008 8:59:24 PM Speaking of B12

 

 

 

 

 

 

I guess my question about B12 is that if God wanted us to eat Vegan why isn't B12 in our plants? I don't get it. I believe God got things right, so what happened? My only guess is that the world changed after the flood, which was when God gave us permission to eat meat. Maybe that was because plants with B12 in them disappeared? Any ideas? Anyway, I take a B12 supplement but don't get why this should be necessary. Is B12 not in ANY plants? Something isn't right there.

 

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Besides b12? Lot of minerals!

 

At 10:41 PM +0100 6/30/08, jo wrote:

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Still best to scrub them - after all, what else do you get in the

dirt?

 

Jo

 

 

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Peter VV

 

Monday, June 30, 2008 7:42 PM

Re: Speaking of B12

 

B12 exists in bacteria in soil, goes to show a little bit of dirt

never hurt anyone. So if you are being fastidious scrubbing your root

veg ( spuds/carrots etc) your depriving yourself of a potential source

of b12....

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.. and what else?

 

Jo

 

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Tuesday, July 01, 2008 10:01 AM

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Besides b12? Lot of minerals!

 

At 10:41 PM +0100 6/30/08, jo wrote:

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Still best to scrub them - after all, what else do you get in the dirt?

 

Jo

 

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Peter VV

 

Monday, June 30, 2008 7:42 PM

Re: Speaking of B12

 

B12 exists in bacteria in soil, goes to show a little bit of dirt never hurt anyone. So if you are being fastidious scrubbing your root veg ( spuds/carrots etc) your depriving yourself of a potential source of b12....

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(I can hear your foot tapping all the way over here.)

 

At 11:16 PM +0100 7/1/08, jo wrote:

.. and what else?

 

Jo

 

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yarrow

 

Tuesday, July 01, 2008 10:01 AM

Re: Speaking of B12

 

Besides b12? Lots of minerals!

 

At 10:41 PM +0100 6/30/08, jo wrote:

?

Still best to scrub them - after all, what else do you get in the

dirt?

 

Jo

 

 

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Peter VV

 

Monday, June 30, 2008 7:42 PM

Re: Speaking of B12

 

B12 exists in bacteria in soil, goes to show a little bit of dirt

never hurt anyone. So if you are being fastidious scrubbing your root

veg ( spuds/carrots etc) your depriving yourself of a potential source

of b12....

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" We know more about the dark side of the moon than we do

about the earth beneath our feet. This is the teeming domain of

amoebas, bacteria, mites, mold, worms, and countless other organisms,

so numerous that scientists haven't even named them all. In fact,

there are more creatures in a shovel full of rich soil than human

beings on the planet. "

 

-- from the website about the new Smithsonian exhibit on soils,

which will be opening in Wash. DC in 3 weeks.

 

 

 

At 11:16 PM +0100 7/1/08, jo wrote:

.. and what else?

 

Jo

 

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yarrow

 

Tuesday, July 01, 2008 10:01 AM

Re: Speaking of B12

 

Besides b12? Lots of minerals!

 

At 10:41 PM +0100 6/30/08, jo wrote:

?

Still best to scrub them - after all, what else do you get in the

dirt?

 

Jo

 

 

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Peter VV

 

Monday, June 30, 2008 7:42 PM

Re: Speaking of B12

 

B12 exists in bacteria in soil, goes to show a little bit of dirt

never hurt anyone. So if you are being fastidious scrubbing your root

veg ( spuds/carrots etc) your depriving yourself of a potential source

of b12....

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ooooo i wanna go!

i remember reading some book, a loooong time ago, i know i was pre-teen, and a biologist dug up a square foot of soil in a forest somewhere....and he listed the amount of new species he discovered within that same piece of earth...it was staggering and i went "wow"

 

yarrow Jul 1, 2008 2:38 PM Re: Speaking of B12

 

 

 

 

"We know more about the dark side of the moon than we do about the earth beneath our feet. This is the teeming domain of amoebas, bacteria, mites, mold, worms, and countless other organisms, so numerous that scientists haven't even named them all. In fact, there are more creatures in a shovel full of rich soil than human beings on the planet. "

 

-- from the website about the new Smithsonian exhibit on soils, which will be opening in Wash. DC in 3 weeks.

 

 

 

At 11:16 PM +0100 7/1/08, jo wrote:

.. and what else?

 

Jo

 

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yarrow

 

Tuesday, July 01, 2008 10:01 AM

Re: Speaking of B12

 

Besides b12? Lots of minerals!

 

At 10:41 PM +0100 6/30/08, jo wrote:

?

Still best to scrub them - after all, what else do you get in the dirt?

 

Jo

 

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Peter VV

 

Monday, June 30, 2008 7:42 PM

Re: Speaking of B12

 

B12 exists in bacteria in soil, goes to show a little bit of dirt never hurt anyone. So if you are being fastidious scrubbing your root veg ( spuds/carrots etc) your depriving yourself of a potential source of b12....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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LOL :-)

 

Jo

 

 

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yarrow

Tuesday, July 01, 2008 11:26 PM

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(I can hear your foot tapping all the way over here.)

 

At 11:16 PM +0100 7/1/08, jo wrote:

.. and what else?

 

Jo

 

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yarrow

 

Tuesday, July 01, 2008 10:01 AM

Re: Speaking of B12

 

Besides b12? Lots of minerals!

 

At 10:41 PM +0100 6/30/08, jo wrote:

?

Still best to scrub them - after all, what else do you get in the dirt?

 

Jo

 

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Peter VV

 

Monday, June 30, 2008 7:42 PM

Re: Speaking of B12

 

B12 exists in bacteria in soil, goes to show a little bit of dirt never hurt anyone. So if you are being fastidious scrubbing your root veg ( spuds/carrots etc) your depriving yourself of a potential source of b12....

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