Guest guest Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 if you are going to be like that...it's Tourette's besides, this is english!!! can you think of a language which makes less sense and has more messed up grammatical rules? go ahead and look up the word cleave.... unlax is a perfectly cromulant word....A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man. Peter VV Jul 10, 2008 11:37 AM Re: Re: Post-vegan cleanse, Oprah eats her way through Italy I think its some kind of Terrets? Peter vv jo <jo.heartwork > Sent: Thursday, 10 July, 2008 7:39:22 PMRe: Re: Post-vegan cleanse, Oprah eats her way through Italy It certainly can't make sense. What is wrong with the chap when he can't just say what he means with the correct word. Jo - Peter Kebbell @gro ups.com Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:35 PM Re: Re: Post-vegan cleanse, Oprah eats her way through Italy HmmmProblem being, that words in English have certain roots (i.e. etymology). So, "lax" as the suffix of the word "relax" comes from latin, and means "loose" or "slack". "Re" is a common prefix meaning "to return to"... therefore, relax makes perfect sense in its etymological roots: "to return to a state of looseness"."Un", on the other hand, means "to move away from", so "unlax" etymologically means "to move away from a state of looseness".. . i.e. to tense up. No matter how you look at it, it can't etymologically make sense any other way!BBPeter 2008/7/10 fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.net>: methinks its a combination/ contraction of unwind and relax... Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 You should try Welsh.......... Peter vv fraggle <EBbrewpunx Sent: Thursday, 10 July, 2008 8:51:30 PMRe: Re: Post-vegan word haters if you are going to be like that...it's Tourette's besides, this is english!!! can you think of a language which makes less sense and has more messed up grammatical rules? go ahead and look up the word cleave.... unlax is a perfectly cromulant word....A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man. Peter VV Jul 10, 2008 11:37 AM @gro ups.com Re: Re: Post-vegan cleanse, Oprah eats her way through Italy I think its some kind of Terrets? Peter vv jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comThursday, 10 July, 2008 7:39:22 PMRe: Re: Post-vegan cleanse, Oprah eats her way through Italy It certainly can't make sense. What is wrong with the chap when he can't just say what he means with the correct word. Jo - Peter Kebbell @gro ups.com Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:35 PM Re: Re: Post-vegan cleanse, Oprah eats her way through Italy HmmmProblem being, that words in English have certain roots (i.e. etymology). So, "lax" as the suffix of the word "relax" comes from latin, and means "loose" or "slack". "Re" is a common prefix meaning "to return to"... therefore, relax makes perfect sense in its etymological roots: "to return to a state of looseness"."Un", on the other hand, means "to move away from", so "unlax" etymologically means "to move away from a state of looseness".. . i.e. to tense up. No matter how you look at it, it can't etymologically make sense any other way!BBPeter 2008/7/10 fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.net>: methinks its a combination/ contraction of unwind and relax... Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably. Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 are you flirting with me????? *bats eyelashes* Peter VV Jul 10, 2008 12:03 PM Re: Re: Post-vegan word haters You should try Welsh.......... Peter vv fraggle <EBbrewpunx (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> Sent: Thursday, 10 July, 2008 8:51:30 PMRe: Re: Post-vegan word haters if you are going to be like that...it's Tourette's besides, this is english!!! can you think of a language which makes less sense and has more messed up grammatical rules? go ahead and look up the word cleave.... unlax is a perfectly cromulant word....A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man. Peter VV Jul 10, 2008 11:37 AM @gro ups.com Re: Re: Post-vegan cleanse, Oprah eats her way through Italy I think its some kind of Terrets? Peter vv jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comThursday, 10 July, 2008 7:39:22 PMRe: Re: Post-vegan cleanse, Oprah eats her way through Italy It certainly can't make sense. What is wrong with the chap when he can't just say what he means with the correct word. Jo - Peter Kebbell @gro ups.com Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:35 PM Re: Re: Post-vegan cleanse, Oprah eats her way through Italy HmmmProblem being, that words in English have certain roots (i.e. etymology). So, "lax" as the suffix of the word "relax" comes from latin, and means "loose" or "slack". "Re" is a common prefix meaning "to return to"... therefore, relax makes perfect sense in its etymological roots: "to return to a state of looseness"."Un", on the other hand, means "to move away from", so "unlax" etymologically means "to move away from a state of looseness".. . i.e. to tense up. No matter how you look at it, it can't etymologically make sense any other way!BBPeter 2008/7/10 fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.net>: methinks its a combination/ contraction of unwind and relax... Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably. Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 you better believe it BIG BOY! Peter vv fraggle <EBbrewpunx Sent: Thursday, 10 July, 2008 9:10:05 PMRe: Re: Post-vegan word haters are you flirting with me????? *bats eyelashes* Peter VV Jul 10, 2008 12:03 PM @gro ups.com Re: Re: Post-vegan word haters You should try Welsh....... ... Peter vv fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.net>@gro ups.comThursday, 10 July, 2008 8:51:30 PMRe: Re: Post-vegan word haters if you are going to be like that...it's Tourette's besides, this is english!!! can you think of a language which makes less sense and has more messed up grammatical rules? go ahead and look up the word cleave.... unlax is a perfectly cromulant word....A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man. Peter VV Jul 10, 2008 11:37 AM @gro ups.com Re: Re: Post-vegan cleanse, Oprah eats her way through Italy I think its some kind of Terrets? Peter vv jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comThursday, 10 July, 2008 7:39:22 PMRe: Re: Post-vegan cleanse, Oprah eats her way through Italy It certainly can't make sense. What is wrong with the chap when he can't just say what he means with the correct word. Jo - Peter Kebbell @gro ups.com Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:35 PM Re: Re: Post-vegan cleanse, Oprah eats her way through Italy HmmmProblem being, that words in English have certain roots (i.e. etymology). So, "lax" as the suffix of the word "relax" comes from latin, and means "loose" or "slack". "Re" is a common prefix meaning "to return to"... therefore, relax makes perfect sense in its etymological roots: "to return to a state of looseness"."Un", on the other hand, means "to move away from", so "unlax" etymologically means "to move away from a state of looseness".. . i.e. to tense up. No matter how you look at it, it can't etymologically make sense any other way!BBPeter 2008/7/10 fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.net>: methinks its a combination/ contraction of unwind and relax... Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably. Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably. Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008  Hi Fraggle > besides, this is english!!! can you think of a language which makes less sense and has more messed up grammatical rules? I don't know enough about other languages... but gramatically, English makes pretty much perfect sense. If you know the root language of the word you're using, it is very consistent - what makes it look confusing is the fact that there are around 5 different root languages (Latin, Greek, Norman, Saxon / Old Germanic, Norse). > go ahead and look up the word cleave.... Yes - there are two different meanings, each with very different roots (one is Western Germanic, the other is Proto Indo-European). If you know the etymology, you understand the difference, and it makes perfect sense. > unlax is a perfectly cromulant word.... > A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man. Oh dear - someone has been watching too much Simpsons.... BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 too much simpsons? those words make no sense strung together like that yeah, great, the roots...99.999999% of english speakers don't and won't know the root of a word, be it's indo european formation, or olde english, germanic, french, sanskrit, or whatever...and, won't care. ok..cleave....how about live sow refuse appropriate oh, why oh why do i let myself get dragged into these discussions. i swear you guys plant these stories! it's all a conspiracy! yer all against me! i demand to see the manager! Peter Jul 11, 2008 1:28 AM Re: Re: Post-vegan word haters  Hi Fraggle > besides, this is english!!! can you think of a language which makes less sense and has more messed up grammatical rules? I don't know enough about other languages... but gramatically, English makes pretty much perfect sense. If you know the root language of the word you're using, it is very consistent - what makes it look confusing is the fact that there are around 5 different root languages (Latin, Greek, Norman, Saxon / Old Germanic, Norse). > go ahead and look up the word cleave.... Yes - there are two different meanings, each with very different roots (one is Western Germanic, the other is Proto Indo-European). If you know the etymology, you understand the difference, and it makes perfect sense. > unlax is a perfectly cromulant word.... > A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man. Oh dear - someone has been watching too much Simpsons.... BB Peter With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008  It is still possible to talk correctly without knowing the root. Jo - fraggle Friday, July 11, 2008 3:45 PM Re: Re: Post-vegan word haters too much simpsons? those words make no sense strung together like that yeah, great, the roots...99.999999% of english speakers don't and won't know the root of a word, be it's indo european formation, or olde english, germanic, french, sanskrit, or whatever...and, won't care. ok..cleave....how about live sow refuse appropriate oh, why oh why do i let myself get dragged into these discussions. i swear you guys plant these stories! it's all a conspiracy! yer all against me! i demand to see the manager! Peter Jul 11, 2008 1:28 AM Re: Re: Post-vegan word haters  Hi Fraggle > besides, this is english!!! can you think of a language which makes less sense and has more messed up grammatical rules? I don't know enough about other languages... but gramatically, English makes pretty much perfect sense. If you know the root language of the word you're using, it is very consistent - what makes it look confusing is the fact that there are around 5 different root languages (Latin, Greek, Norman, Saxon / Old Germanic, Norse). > go ahead and look up the word cleave.... Yes - there are two different meanings, each with very different roots (one is Western Germanic, the other is Proto Indo-European). If you know the etymology, you understand the difference, and it makes perfect sense. > unlax is a perfectly cromulant word.... > A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man. Oh dear - someone has been watching too much Simpsons.... BB Peter With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008   ermmmmmmmmm - yes. English with some of the new American editions! Jo > besides, this is english!!! can you think of a language which makes less sense and has more messed up grammatical rules? .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008  You may have noticed my error (just testing :-) ) edition should have been additions. Jo ermmmmmmmmm - yes. English with some of the new American editions! besides, this is english!!! can you think of a language which makes less sense and has more messed up grammatical rules? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Hi FraggleI'm not going to become an etymological dictionary :-)Fact remains that, until the past about 5 years, the English language *has* made sense. It seems that journalists have now decided that rather than use a language which makes sense, they want to put their mark on the world by inventing words which make no sense at all... BBPeter2008/7/11 fraggle <EBbrewpunx: too much simpsons? those words make no sense strung together like that yeah, great, the roots...99.999999% of english speakers don't and won't know the root of a word, be it's indo european formation, or olde english, germanic, french, sanskrit, or whatever...and, won't care. ok..cleave....how about live sow refuse appropriate oh, why oh why do i let myself get dragged into these discussions. i swear you guys plant these stories! it's all a conspiracy! yer all against me! i demand to see the manager! Peter Jul 11, 2008 1:28 AM Re: Re: Post-vegan word haters  Hi Fraggle > besides, this is english!!! can you think of a language which makes less sense and has more messed up grammatical rules? I don't know enough about other languages... but gramatically, English makes pretty much perfect sense. If you know the root language of the word you're using, it is very consistent - what makes it look confusing is the fact that there are around 5 different root languages (Latin, Greek, Norman, Saxon / Old Germanic, Norse). > go ahead and look up the word cleave.... Yes - there are two different meanings, each with very different roots (one is Western Germanic, the other is Proto Indo-European). If you know the etymology, you understand the difference, and it makes perfect sense. > unlax is a perfectly cromulant word.... > A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man. Oh dear - someone has been watching too much Simpsons.... BB Peter With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 I see you are all enjoying this now its in full flow. My work here is done.................. Peter vv fraggle <EBbrewpunx Sent: Friday, 11 July, 2008 3:45:16 PMRe: Re: Post-vegan word haters too much simpsons? those words make no sense strung together like that yeah, great, the roots...99.999999% of english speakers don't and won't know the root of a word, be it's indo european formation, or olde english, germanic, french, sanskrit, or whatever...and, won't care. ok..cleave.. ..how about live sow refuse appropriate oh, why oh why do i let myself get dragged into these discussions. i swear you guys plant these stories! it's all a conspiracy! yer all against me! i demand to see the manager! Peter Jul 11, 2008 1:28 AM @gro ups.com Re: Re: Post-vegan word haters  Hi Fraggle > besides, this is english!!! can you think of a language which makes less sense and has more messed up grammatical rules? I don't know enough about other languages... but gramatically, English makes pretty much perfect sense. If you know the root language of the word you're using, it is very consistent - what makes it look confusing is the fact that there are around 5 different root languages (Latin, Greek, Norman, Saxon / Old Germanic, Norse). > go ahead and look up the word cleave.... Yes - there are two different meanings, each with very different roots (one is Western Germanic, the other is Proto Indo-European) . If you know the etymology, you understand the difference, and it makes perfect sense. > unlax is a perfectly cromulant word.... > A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man. Oh dear - someone has been watching too much Simpsons.... BB Peter With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably. Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008  Is that a smug tone I hear in your voice :-) Jo - Peter VV Friday, July 11, 2008 8:04 PM Re: Re: Post-vegan word haters I see you are all enjoying this now its in full flow. My work here is done.................. Peter vv fraggle <EBbrewpunx (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> Sent: Friday, 11 July, 2008 3:45:16 PMRe: Re: Post-vegan word haters too much simpsons? those words make no sense strung together like that yeah, great, the roots...99.999999% of english speakers don't and won't know the root of a word, be it's indo european formation, or olde english, germanic, french, sanskrit, or whatever...and, won't care. ok..cleave.. ..how about live sow refuse appropriate oh, why oh why do i let myself get dragged into these discussions. i swear you guys plant these stories! it's all a conspiracy! yer all against me! i demand to see the manager! Peter Jul 11, 2008 1:28 AM @gro ups.com Re: Re: Post-vegan word haters  Hi Fraggle > besides, this is english!!! can you think of a language which makes less sense and has more messed up grammatical rules? I don't know enough about other languages... but gramatically, English makes pretty much perfect sense. If you know the root language of the word you're using, it is very consistent - what makes it look confusing is the fact that there are around 5 different root languages (Latin, Greek, Norman, Saxon / Old Germanic, Norse). > go ahead and look up the word cleave.... Yes - there are two different meanings, each with very different roots (one is Western Germanic, the other is Proto Indo-European) . If you know the etymology, you understand the difference, and it makes perfect sense. > unlax is a perfectly cromulant word.... > A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man. Oh dear - someone has been watching too much Simpsons.... BB Peter With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably. Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 smug? no, satisfied? possibly.............and for my next trick.......... Peter vv jo <jo.heartwork Sent: Friday, 11 July, 2008 9:43:14 PMRe: Re: Post-vegan word haters  Is that a smug tone I hear in your voice :-) Jo - Peter VV @gro ups.com Friday, July 11, 2008 8:04 PM Re: Re: Post-vegan word haters I see you are all enjoying this now its in full flow. My work here is done........ ......... . Peter vv fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.net>@gro ups.comFriday, 11 July, 2008 3:45:16 PMRe: Re: Post-vegan word haters too much simpsons? those words make no sense strung together like that yeah, great, the roots...99.999999% of english speakers don't and won't know the root of a word, be it's indo european formation, or olde english, germanic, french, sanskrit, or whatever...and, won't care. ok..cleave.. ..how about live sow refuse appropriate oh, why oh why do i let myself get dragged into these discussions. i swear you guys plant these stories! it's all a conspiracy! yer all against me! i demand to see the manager! Peter Jul 11, 2008 1:28 AM @gro ups.com Re: Re: Post-vegan word haters  Hi Fraggle > besides, this is english!!! can you think of a language which makes less sense and has more messed up grammatical rules? I don't know enough about other languages... but gramatically, English makes pretty much perfect sense. If you know the root language of the word you're using, it is very consistent - what makes it look confusing is the fact that there are around 5 different root languages (Latin, Greek, Norman, Saxon / Old Germanic, Norse). > go ahead and look up the word cleave.... Yes - there are two different meanings, each with very different roots (one is Western Germanic, the other is Proto Indo-European) . If you know the etymology, you understand the difference, and it makes perfect sense. > unlax is a perfectly cromulant word.... > A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man. Oh dear - someone has been watching too much Simpsons.... BB Peter With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably. Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 The multiple meanings make crossword puzzles fun! At 7:45 AM -0700 7/11/08, fraggle wrote: too much simpsons? those words make no sense strung together like that yeah, great, the roots...99.999999% of english speakers don't and won't know the root of a word, be it's indo european formation, or olde english, germanic, french, sanskrit, or whatever...and, won't care. ok..cleave....how about live sow refuse appropriate oh, why oh why do i let myself get dragged into these discussions. i swear you guys plant these stories! it's all a conspiracy! yer all against me! i demand to see the manager! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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