Vegans And Meat-Eaters Unite To Support California's Proposition

[Guest guest]

That was well stated! I sent it to all of my California friends! I'm from

California and i wish

i could still vote in that state! This Prop is so important!

Danielle

 

 

, Peter VV <swpgh01 wrote:

>

> Proposition 2, a sweeping California ballot initiative designed to improve the

treatment

that farm animals receive, will be decided by voters on November 4th. The

proposition,

co-sponsored by the Humane Society and Farm Sanctuary, the biggest farm-animal-

rights group in the United States, requires that by 2015 farm animals be able to

stand up,

lie down, turn around and fully extend their limbs. If passed, the measure would

ban the

two-foot-wide crates that regularly confine pregnant pigs and calves raised for

veal, as

well as " battery cages, " in which several hens are crammed into a small

wire-mesh cage.

> Philip Brasher of the Des Moines Register asserts that although the bill will

primarily

affect egg-laying operations, as the state has little pork or beef industry,

" the measure

could have ramifications well beyond California if it passes. "

>

> If nothing else, it would send a message to the next Congress, which is likely

to be one

of the most liberal in history. " One of the major effects will be on the retail

sector, " said

Wayne Pacelle, chief executive of the Humane Society of the United States, which

has spent

more than $4 million so far on the campaign to pass Proposition 2. " It will be

another

indicator that the public finds these intensive confinement practices are out of

bounds and

unacceptable. "

> Passing the measure also would provide " additional momentum to our efforts at

the

federal level, " Pacelle said.

> Maggie Jones of the New York Times Magazine describes how Pacelle, who

recently

succeeded in shuttering $100 million strikingly inhumane Westland/Hallmark Meat

Company slaughter house with the help of an undercover investigator wearing a

hidden

video camera with a lens the size of the tip of a pen, resulting in the largest

beef recall in

U.S. history, has been working feverishly to garner support for Proposition 2.

>

> The question, as Pacelle sees it, is how to create change when Big

Agriculture, with its

big money, has made it nearly impossible to get meaningful farm-animal-welfare

legislation passed. Here the ballot-initiative process is crucial, since it

offers an end run

around legislators by taking issues directly to voters. Another key element in

Pacelle's

strategy has been to create ballot measures that offer only modest reforms on

which both

vegans and hamburger lovers (at least many of them) can agree. That tactic,

however, has

earned Pacelle his share of critics, including some who claim that while the

ballot

initiatives may seem moderate, they are just a first step in a vegan agenda to

dictate what

Americans eat. On the other side, extreme vegan groups say Pacelle has sold out,

giving

carnivores a reason to feel virtuous about eating " happy meat. " Pacelle counters

that he

can't please everybody: " Part of my job is to challenge certain orthodoxies. For

> people who want a vegan revolution -- that's too passive for me. "

> Tom Hennessy wrote a column in the Press Telegram in support of Proposition 2.

In it he

recalls Pacelle's recent appearance on the Oprah Winfrey Show. Pacelle began the

program

by saying this:

>

> " This is just about basic decency. It's not a debate of vegetarianism versus

meat eating.

It's about if animals are going to be raised for food - and that's certainly the

case in this

country - then the least we can do for them is allow them to move. What's more

basic than

allowing animals with legs and wings to move around? "

> Winfrey intervened to say, " I'm sure there are a lot of people watching who

say, `Well,

what do I care? It's just a chicken. " '

> That, said Pacelle, plays to the industry's " view that animals are

commodities, they're

units of production, they're objects. " Each chicken, he notes, has 67 square

inches of living

space, or two-thirds the size of a sheet of paper.

> Washington Post reporter Ashley Surdin recently pointed out that critics of

the bill insist

the regulations would harm farmers, as non-cage systems would increase their

production costs at least 20 percent. Proponents of the bill, however, refer to

the 2 1/2 -

year independent analysis " Putting Meat on the Table: Industrial Farm Production

in

America. "

> The study found that factory farming takes a hidden toll on human health and

the

environment, is undermining rural America's economic stability and fails to

provide the

humane treatment of livestock increasingly demanded by American consumers. In

particular, the report found that keeping thousands of animals in close quarters

spreads

disease quickly, spurring factory farms to treat animals with antibiotics that

in some cases

render medications less effective in people.

> Among other things, the Pew Commission on Industrial Farm Animal Production

called

for a 10-year phaseout of cages and gestation crates. A similar plan was passed

by the

European Union, which ordered its farmers to phase out the cages by 2012.

>  

> Peter vv

>

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already voted for it

natenjade Oct 29, 2008 9:28 AM Re: Vegans And Meat-Eaters Unite To Support California's Proposition

 

 

 

That was well stated! I sent it to all of my California friends! I'm from California and i wish i could still vote in that state! This Prop is so important!Danielle , Peter VV <swpgh01 wrote:>> Proposition 2, a sweeping California ballot initiative designed to improve the treatment that farm animals receive, will be decided by voters on November 4th. The proposition, co-sponsored by the Humane Society and Farm Sanctuary, the biggest farm-animal-rights group in the United States, requires that by 2015 farm animals be able to stand up, lie down, turn around and fully extend their limbs. If passed, the measure would ban the two-foot-wide crates that regularly confine pregnant pigs and calves raised for veal, as well as "battery cages," in which several hens are crammed into a small wire-mesh cage.> Philip Brasher of the Des Moines Register asserts that although the bill will primarily affect egg-laying operations, as the state has little pork or beef industry, "the measure could have ramifications well beyond California if it passes."> > If nothing else, it would send a message to the next Congress, which is likely to be one of the most liberal in history. "One of the major effects will be on the retail sector," said Wayne Pacelle, chief executive of the Humane Society of the United States, which has spent more than $4 million so far on the campaign to pass Proposition 2. "It will be another indicator that the public finds these intensive confinement practices are out of bounds and unacceptable." > Passing the measure also would provide "additional momentum to our efforts at the federal level," Pacelle said.> Maggie Jones of the New York Times Magazine describes how Pacelle, who recently succeeded in shuttering $100 million strikingly inhumane Westland/Hallmark Meat Company slaughter house with the help of an undercover investigator wearing a hidden video camera with a lens the size of the tip of a pen, resulting in the largest beef recall in U.S. history, has been working feverishly to garner support for Proposition 2.> > The question, as Pacelle sees it, is how to create change when Big Agriculture, with its big money, has made it nearly impossible to get meaningful farm-animal-welfare legislation passed. Here the ballot-initiative process is crucial, since it offers an end run around legislators by taking issues directly to voters. Another key element in Pacelle's strategy has been to create ballot measures that offer only modest reforms on which both vegans and hamburger lovers (at least many of them) can agree. That tactic, however, has earned Pacelle his share of critics, including some who claim that while the ballot initiatives may seem moderate, they are just a first step in a vegan agenda to dictate what Americans eat. On the other side, extreme vegan groups say Pacelle has sold out, giving carnivores a reason to feel virtuous about eating "happy meat." Pacelle counters that he can't please everybody: "Part of my job is to challenge certain orthodoxies. For> people who want a vegan revolution -- that's too passive for me."> Tom Hennessy wrote a column in the Press Telegram in support of Proposition 2. In it he recalls Pacelle's recent appearance on the Oprah Winfrey Show. Pacelle began the program by saying this:> > "This is just about basic decency. It's not a debate of vegetarianism versus meat eating. It's about if animals are going to be raised for food - and that's certainly the case in this country - then the least we can do for them is allow them to move. What's more basic than allowing animals with legs and wings to move around?" > Winfrey intervened to say, "I'm sure there are a lot of people watching who say, `Well, what do I care? It's just a chicken."'> That, said Pacelle, plays to the industry's "view that animals are commodities, they're units of production, they're objects." Each chicken, he notes, has 67 square inches of living space, or two-thirds the size of a sheet of paper. > Washington Post reporter Ashley Surdin recently pointed out that critics of the bill insist the regulations would harm farmers, as non-cage systems would increase their production costs at least 20 percent. Proponents of the bill, however, refer to the 2 1/2 -year independent analysis "Putting Meat on the Table: Industrial Farm Production in America." > The study found that factory farming takes a hidden toll on human health and the environment, is undermining rural America's economic stability and fails to provide the humane treatment of livestock increasingly demanded by American consumers. In particular, the report found that keeping thousands of animals in close quarters spreads disease quickly, spurring factory farms to treat animals with antibiotics that in some cases render medications less effective in people. > Among other things, the Pew Commission on Industrial Farm Animal Production called for a 10-year phaseout of cages and gestation crates. A similar plan was passed by the European Union, which ordered its farmers to phase out the cages by 2012. > Â > Peter vv>

 

 

 

 

 

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