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Storm cuts power to more than 1M in New England

 

Ice surrounds the branches of a tree after a storm in East Derry, N.H., Friday

Dec. 12, 2008. Hundreds of thousands of residents in New Hampshire, Maine and

Vermont were without power Friday as an ice storm dropped trees and power lines

all over the region. Charles Krupa

By DAVID TIRRELL-WYSOCKI (Associated Press Writer)

From Associated Press

 

December 12, 2008 12:00 PM EST

CONCORD, N.H. - An ice storm knocked out power to more than a million homes and

businesses in New England and upstate New York on Friday, and authorities say it

could take days for all of them to get service back.

 

The storm brought rain, freezing rain, sleet and snow through the night, and in

some areas, including hard-hit New Hampshire, the miserable mix was continuing

Friday.

 

The governors of Massachusetts and New Hampshire declared states of emergency

Friday morning, and schools were closed and travel disrupted across the region.

New Hampshire's court system canceled all hearings and trials for the day.

 

" I urge all New Hampshire citizens to take sensible precautions and heed all

warnings from public officials, " Gov. John Lynch said.

 

Fire departments were responding to reports of transformer explosions, wires and

utility poles down and trees falling on homes. Utility crews were so busy

dealing with public safety hazards like live power lines that they weren't

immediately able to begin restoration efforts.

 

Utilities reported 392,000 homes and businesses without power in New Hampshire,

including 300,000 served by the state's largest utility, Public Service Company

of New Hampshire. The outages there far surpassed the infamous ice storm of

1998, when some residents spent more than a week in the dark.

 

In Hampstead, N.H., Mark Cegelis, 36, said things were hectic at his

neighborhood gas station, which was jammed with people trying to get gas for

home generators.

 

" It's kind of lawless out there right now. There's a lot of people very

frustrated, stacking up at the gas stations. It's pretty ugly. "

 

He bought 21 gallons for himself and tried to deliver some to some friends in

Derry but couldn't get there because of downed trees blocking roads. So his

friends came to him instead, and were expected to hunker down until power was

restored.

 

Gov. Deval Patrick's emergency declaration in Massachusetts would enable the

governor to take further steps, such as mobilizing the National Guard, if needed

as the day wore on, officials said.

 

At a midmorning news conference, Patrick said 350,000 customers across the state

were without power - and the number had risen 150,000 homes in just an hour. He

said it would be " ambitious " to think power would be restored by Monday.

 

" This is not going to be a couple of hours, " Patrick said. " It's likely to be

several days. "

 

In eastern New York, particularly around Albany, the state capital, outages at

National Grid and other utilities brought the total in the state to more than

235,000.

 

" Trees were down on all the roads, " said Miguel Figueroa, 28, as he waited for

coffee at a Starbucks in Colonie, N.Y. " ... I couldn't even get on the Thruway

today. "

 

At least 20 Massachusetts towns declared local states of emergency even before

the governor made the statewide declaration.

 

" Stay home if you live in Holden, don't come to Holden if you work here, "

Holden, Mass., fire Chief Jack Chandler said. The entire town was without power

and some senior citizens on oxygen were transported to a hospital or a shelter

opened at the town's senior center.

 

Central Maine Power Co. said more than 190,000 customers in the dark as of late

Friday morning, mostly in southern and coastal areas. Bangor Hydro Electric Co.

reported more than 11,000 outages.

 

Maine Gov. John Baldacci declared a limited emergency allowing utility crews to

work longer hours.

 

In Vermont, 25,800 customers were without power Friday morning. Several inches

of snow, caked with ice toppled trees onto roads and power lines.

 

The ice even extended to a small area of Pennsylvania, where about 4,700 PPL

Corp. customers, most of them in the Poconos, were without electricity. In most

of the state, though, the storm system left its mark in the form of heavy rain

or rain changing to snow.

 

---

 

Associated Press writers Holly Ramer in Concord, N.H.; Mark Pratt in Boston;

Clarke Canfield in Portland, Maine; John Curran and Lisa Rathke in Montpelier,

Vt.; and Mike Hill and Jessica M. Pasko in Albany, N.Y., contributed to this

report.

 

Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not

be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

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Those who didn't get ice got rain. I'm in the area where it got rain, and a major route was almos completely flooded out this morning.

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Storm cuts power to more than 1M in New EnglandIce surrounds the branches of a tree after a storm in East Derry, N.H., Friday Dec. 12, 2008. Hundreds of thousands of residents in New Hampshire, Maine and Vermont were without power Friday as an ice storm dropped trees and power lines all over the region. Charles Krupa

By DAVID TIRRELL-WYSOCKI (Associated Press Writer)From Associated PressDecember 12, 2008 12:00 PM ESTCONCORD, N.H. - An ice storm knocked out power to more than a million homes and businesses in New England and upstate New York on Friday, and authorities say it could take days for all of them to get service back.

The storm brought rain, freezing rain, sleet and snow through the night, and in some areas, including hard-hit New Hampshire, the miserable mix was continuing Friday.The governors of Massachusetts and New Hampshire declared states of emergency Friday morning, and schools were closed and travel disrupted across the region. New Hampshire's court system canceled all hearings and trials for the day.

" I urge all New Hampshire citizens to take sensible precautions and heed all warnings from public officials, " Gov. John Lynch said.Fire departments were responding to reports of transformer explosions, wires and utility poles down and trees falling on homes. Utility crews were so busy dealing with public safety hazards like live power lines that they weren't immediately able to begin restoration efforts.

Utilities reported 392,000 homes and businesses without power in New Hampshire, including 300,000 served by the state's largest utility, Public Service Company of New Hampshire. The outages there far surpassed the infamous ice storm of 1998, when some residents spent more than a week in the dark.

In Hampstead, N.H., Mark Cegelis, 36, said things were hectic at his neighborhood gas station, which was jammed with people trying to get gas for home generators. " It's kind of lawless out there right now. There's a lot of people very frustrated, stacking up at the gas stations. It's pretty ugly. "

He bought 21 gallons for himself and tried to deliver some to some friends in Derry but couldn't get there because of downed trees blocking roads. So his friends came to him instead, and were expected to hunker down until power was restored.

Gov. Deval Patrick's emergency declaration in Massachusetts would enable the governor to take further steps, such as mobilizing the National Guard, if needed as the day wore on, officials said.At a midmorning news conference, Patrick said 350,000 customers across the state were without power - and the number had risen 150,000 homes in just an hour. He said it would be " ambitious " to think power would be restored by Monday.

" This is not going to be a couple of hours, " Patrick said. " It's likely to be several days. " In eastern New York, particularly around Albany, the state capital, outages at National Grid and other utilities brought the total in the state to more than 235,000.

" Trees were down on all the roads, " said Miguel Figueroa, 28, as he waited for coffee at a Starbucks in Colonie, N.Y. " ... I couldn't even get on the Thruway today. " At least 20 Massachusetts towns declared local states of emergency even before the governor made the statewide declaration.

" Stay home if you live in Holden, don't come to Holden if you work here, " Holden, Mass., fire Chief Jack Chandler said. The entire town was without power and some senior citizens on oxygen were transported to a hospital or a shelter opened at the town's senior center.

Central Maine Power Co. said more than 190,000 customers in the dark as of late Friday morning, mostly in southern and coastal areas. Bangor Hydro Electric Co. reported more than 11,000 outages.Maine Gov. John Baldacci declared a limited emergency allowing utility crews to work longer hours.

In Vermont, 25,800 customers were without power Friday morning. Several inches of snow, caked with ice toppled trees onto roads and power lines.The ice even extended to a small area of Pennsylvania, where about 4,700 PPL Corp. customers, most of them in the Poconos, were without electricity. In most of the state, though, the storm system left its mark in the form of heavy rain or rain changing to snow.

---Associated Press writers Holly Ramer in Concord, N.H.; Mark Pratt in Boston; Clarke Canfield in Portland, Maine; John Curran and Lisa Rathke in Montpelier, Vt.; and Mike Hill and Jessica M. Pasko in Albany, N.Y., contributed to this report.

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well, you're on e-mail, so i assume you are ok.

unless they discovered how to send webmail via tin can and string.

supposed to get cold here this weekend as well. yuck!

fraggle

Blue Rose Dec 12, 2008 9:50 AM Re: its dangerous out in New England

 

 

 

Those who didn't get ice got rain. I'm in the area where it got rain, and a major route was almos completely flooded out this morning.

On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:26 PM, fraggle <EBbrewpunx (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote:

Storm cuts power to more than 1M in New EnglandIce surrounds the branches of a tree after a storm in East Derry, N.H., Friday Dec. 12, 2008. Hundreds of thousands of residents in New Hampshire, Maine and Vermont were without power Friday as an ice storm dropped trees and power lines all over the region. Charles KrupaBy DAVID TIRRELL-WYSOCKI (Associated Press Writer)From Associated PressDecember 12, 2008 12:00 PM ESTCONCORD, N.H. - An ice storm knocked out power to more than a million homes and businesses in New England and upstate New York on Friday, and authorities say it could take days for all of them to get service back.The storm brought rain, freezing rain, sleet and snow through the night, and in some areas, including hard-hit New Hampshire, the miserable mix was continuing Friday.The governors of Massachusetts and New Hampshire declared states of emergency Friday morning, and schools were closed and travel disrupted across the region. New Hampshire's court system canceled all hearings and trials for the day."I urge all New Hampshire citizens to take sensible precautions and heed all warnings from public officials," Gov. John Lynch said.Fire departments were responding to reports of transformer explosions, wires and utility poles down and trees falling on homes. Utility crews were so busy dealing with public safety hazards like live power lines that they weren't immediately able to begin restoration efforts.Utilities reported 392,000 homes and businesses without power in New Hampshire, including 300,000 served by the state's largest utility, Public Service Company of New Hampshire. The outages there far surpassed the infamous ice storm of 1998, when some residents spent more than a week in the dark.In Hampstead, N.H., Mark Cegelis, 36, said things were hectic at his neighborhood gas station, which was jammed with people trying to get gas for home generators."It's kind of lawless out there right now. There's a lot of people very frustrated, stacking up at the gas stations. It's pretty ugly."He bought 21 gallons for himself and tried to deliver some to some friends in Derry but couldn't get there because of downed trees blocking roads. So his friends came to him instead, and were expected to hunker down until power was restored.Gov. Deval Patrick's emergency declaration in Massachusetts would enable the governor to take further steps, such as mobilizing the National Guard, if needed as the day wore on, officials said.At a midmorning news conference, Patrick said 350,000 customers across the state were without power - and the number had risen 150,000 homes in just an hour. He said it would be "ambitious" to think power would be restored by Monday."This is not going to be a couple of hours," Patrick said. "It's likely to be several days."In eastern New York, particularly around Albany, the state capital, outages at National Grid and other utilities brought the total in the state to more than 235,000."Trees were down on all the roads," said Miguel Figueroa, 28, as he waited for coffee at a Starbucks in Colonie, N.Y. "... I couldn't even get on the Thruway today."At least 20 Massachusetts towns declared local states of emergency even before the governor made the statewide declaration."Stay home if you live in Holden, don't come to Holden if you work here," Holden, Mass., fire Chief Jack Chandler said. The entire town was without power and some senior citizens on oxygen were transported to a hospital or a shelter opened at the town's senior center.Central Maine Power Co. said more than 190,000 customers in the dark as of late Friday morning, mostly in southern and coastal areas. Bangor Hydro Electric Co. reported more than 11,000 outages.Maine Gov. John Baldacci declared a limited emergency allowing utility crews to work longer hours.In Vermont, 25,800 customers were without power Friday morning. Several inches of snow, caked with ice toppled trees onto roads and power lines.The ice even extended to a small area of Pennsylvania, where about 4,700 PPL Corp. customers, most of them in the Poconos, were without electricity. In most of the state, though, the storm system left its mark in the form of heavy rain or rain changing to snow.---Associated Press writers Holly Ramer in Concord, N.H.; Mark Pratt in Boston; Clarke Canfield in Portland, Maine; John Curran and Lisa Rathke in Montpelier, Vt.; and Mike Hill and Jessica M. Pasko in Albany, N.Y., contributed to this report.Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.---To send an email to -

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I'm ok, but coworkers who live further north have no power. One just went to pick up his kids.

On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 1:21 PM, fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote:

 

 

well, you're on e-mail, so i assume you are ok.

unless they discovered how to send webmail via tin can and string.

supposed to get cold here this weekend as well. yuck!

fraggle

 

 

 

Blue Rose Dec 12, 2008 9:50 AM

Re: its dangerous out in New England

 

 

 

Those who didn't get ice got rain. I'm in the area where it got rain, and a major route was almos completely flooded out this morning.

On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:26 PM, fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote:

Storm cuts power to more than 1M in New EnglandIce surrounds the branches of a tree after a storm in East Derry, N.H., Friday Dec. 12, 2008. Hundreds of thousands of residents in New Hampshire, Maine and Vermont were without power Friday as an ice storm dropped trees and power lines all over the region. Charles Krupa

By DAVID TIRRELL-WYSOCKI (Associated Press Writer)From Associated PressDecember 12, 2008 12:00 PM ESTCONCORD, N.H. - An ice storm knocked out power to more than a million homes and businesses in New England and upstate New York on Friday, and authorities say it could take days for all of them to get service back.

The storm brought rain, freezing rain, sleet and snow through the night, and in some areas, including hard-hit New Hampshire, the miserable mix was continuing Friday.The governors of Massachusetts and New Hampshire declared states of emergency Friday morning, and schools were closed and travel disrupted across the region. New Hampshire's court system canceled all hearings and trials for the day.

" I urge all New Hampshire citizens to take sensible precautions and heed all warnings from public officials, " Gov. John Lynch said.Fire departments were responding to reports of transformer explosions, wires and utility poles down and trees falling on homes. Utility crews were so busy dealing with public safety hazards like live power lines that they weren't immediately able to begin restoration efforts.

Utilities reported 392,000 homes and businesses without power in New Hampshire, including 300,000 served by the state's largest utility, Public Service Company of New Hampshire. The outages there far surpassed the infamous ice storm of 1998, when some residents spent more than a week in the dark.

In Hampstead, N.H., Mark Cegelis, 36, said things were hectic at his neighborhood gas station, which was jammed with people trying to get gas for home generators. " It's kind of lawless out there right now. There's a lot of people very frustrated, stacking up at the gas stations. It's pretty ugly. "

He bought 21 gallons for himself and tried to deliver some to some friends in Derry but couldn't get there because of downed trees blocking roads. So his friends came to him instead, and were expected to hunker down until power was restored.

Gov. Deval Patrick's emergency declaration in Massachusetts would enable the governor to take further steps, such as mobilizing the National Guard, if needed as the day wore on, officials said.At a midmorning news conference, Patrick said 350,000 customers across the state were without power - and the number had risen 150,000 homes in just an hour. He said it would be " ambitious " to think power would be restored by Monday.

" This is not going to be a couple of hours, " Patrick said. " It's likely to be several days. " In eastern New York, particularly around Albany, the state capital, outages at National Grid and other utilities brought the total in the state to more than 235,000.

" Trees were down on all the roads, " said Miguel Figueroa, 28, as he waited for coffee at a Starbucks in Colonie, N.Y. " ... I couldn't even get on the Thruway today. " At least 20 Massachusetts towns declared local states of emergency even before the governor made the statewide declaration.

" Stay home if you live in Holden, don't come to Holden if you work here, " Holden, Mass., fire Chief Jack Chandler said. The entire town was without power and some senior citizens on oxygen were transported to a hospital or a shelter opened at the town's senior center.

Central Maine Power Co. said more than 190,000 customers in the dark as of late Friday morning, mostly in southern and coastal areas. Bangor Hydro Electric Co. reported more than 11,000 outages.Maine Gov. John Baldacci declared a limited emergency allowing utility crews to work longer hours.

In Vermont, 25,800 customers were without power Friday morning. Several inches of snow, caked with ice toppled trees onto roads and power lines.The ice even extended to a small area of Pennsylvania, where about 4,700 PPL Corp. customers, most of them in the Poconos, were without electricity. In most of the state, though, the storm system left its mark in the form of heavy rain or rain changing to snow.

---Associated Press writers Holly Ramer in Concord, N.H.; Mark Pratt in Boston; Clarke Canfield in Portland, Maine; John Curran and Lisa Rathke in Montpelier, Vt.; and Mike Hill and Jessica M. Pasko in Albany, N.Y., contributed to this report.

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hopefully they'll drive safe and carefully. ice storms are crazy. (tho, they sure were beautiful to look at)

i wouldn't even want to imagine what life would be like here if we even had an ice storm.

Blue Rose Dec 12, 2008 10:25 AM Re: its dangerous out in New England

 

 

 

I'm ok, but coworkers who live further north have no power. One just went to pick up his kids.

On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 1:21 PM, fraggle <EBbrewpunx (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote:

 

 

well, you're on e-mail, so i assume you are ok.

unless they discovered how to send webmail via tin can and string.

supposed to get cold here this weekend as well. yuck!

fraggle

 

 

 

Blue Rose Dec 12, 2008 9:50 AM Re: its dangerous out in New England

 

 

 

Those who didn't get ice got rain. I'm in the area where it got rain, and a major route was almos completely flooded out this morning.

On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:26 PM, fraggle <EBbrewpunx (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote:

Storm cuts power to more than 1M in New EnglandIce surrounds the branches of a tree after a storm in East Derry, N.H., Friday Dec. 12, 2008. Hundreds of thousands of residents in New Hampshire, Maine and Vermont were without power Friday as an ice storm dropped trees and power lines all over the region. Charles KrupaBy DAVID TIRRELL-WYSOCKI (Associated Press Writer)From Associated PressDecember 12, 2008 12:00 PM ESTCONCORD, N.H. - An ice storm knocked out power to more than a million homes and businesses in New England and upstate New York on Friday, and authorities say it could take days for all of them to get service back.The storm brought rain, freezing rain, sleet and snow through the night, and in some areas, including hard-hit New Hampshire, the miserable mix was continuing Friday.The governors of Massachusetts and New Hampshire declared states of emergency Friday morning, and schools were closed and travel disrupted across the region. New Hampshire's court system canceled all hearings and trials for the day."I urge all New Hampshire citizens to take sensible precautions and heed all warnings from public officials," Gov. John Lynch said.Fire departments were responding to reports of transformer explosions, wires and utility poles down and trees falling on homes. Utility crews were so busy dealing with public safety hazards like live power lines that they weren't immediately able to begin restoration efforts.Utilities reported 392,000 homes and businesses without power in New Hampshire, including 300,000 served by the state's largest utility, Public Service Company of New Hampshire. The outages there far surpassed the infamous ice storm of 1998, when some residents spent more than a week in the dark.In Hampstead, N.H., Mark Cegelis, 36, said things were hectic at his neighborhood gas station, which was jammed with people trying to get gas for home generators."It's kind of lawless out there right now. There's a lot of people very frustrated, stacking up at the gas stations. It's pretty ugly."He bought 21 gallons for himself and tried to deliver some to some friends in Derry but couldn't get there because of downed trees blocking roads. So his friends came to him instead, and were expected to hunker down until power was restored.Gov. Deval Patrick's emergency declaration in Massachusetts would enable the governor to take further steps, such as mobilizing the National Guard, if needed as the day wore on, officials said.At a midmorning news conference, Patrick said 350,000 customers across the state were without power - and the number had risen 150,000 homes in just an hour. He said it would be "ambitious" to think power would be restored by Monday."This is not going to be a couple of hours," Patrick said. "It's likely to be several days."In eastern New York, particularly around Albany, the state capital, outages at National Grid and other utilities brought the total in the state to more than 235,000."Trees were down on all the roads," said Miguel Figueroa, 28, as he waited for coffee at a Starbucks in Colonie, N.Y. "... I couldn't even get on the Thruway today."At least 20 Massachusetts towns declared local states of emergency even before the governor made the statewide declaration."Stay home if you live in Holden, don't come to Holden if you work here," Holden, Mass., fire Chief Jack Chandler said. The entire town was without power and some senior citizens on oxygen were transported to a hospital or a shelter opened at the town's senior center.Central Maine Power Co. said more than 190,000 customers in the dark as of late Friday morning, mostly in southern and coastal areas. Bangor Hydro Electric Co. reported more than 11,000 outages.Maine Gov. John Baldacci declared a limited emergency allowing utility crews to work longer hours.In Vermont, 25,800 customers were without power Friday morning. Several inches of snow, caked with ice toppled trees onto roads and power lines.The ice even extended to a small area of Pennsylvania, where about 4,700 PPL Corp. customers, most of them in the Poconos, were without electricity. In most of the state, though, the storm system left its mark in the form of heavy rain or rain changing to snow.---Associated Press writers Holly Ramer in Concord, N.H.; Mark Pratt in Boston; Clarke Canfield in Portland, Maine; John Curran and Lisa Rathke in Montpelier, Vt.; and Mike Hill and Jessica M. Pasko in Albany, N.Y., contributed to this report.Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.---To send an email to -

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We had thick ice in the morning, with icicles on the car, but then rain later.

 

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Friday, December 12, 2008 5:50 PM

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Those who didn't get ice got rain. I'm in the area where it got rain, and a major route was almos completely flooded out this morning.

On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:26 PM, fraggle <EBbrewpunx (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote:

Storm cuts power to more than 1M in New EnglandIce surrounds the branches of a tree after a storm in East Derry, N.H., Friday Dec. 12, 2008. Hundreds of thousands of residents in New Hampshire, Maine and Vermont were without power Friday as an ice storm dropped trees and power lines all over the region. Charles KrupaBy DAVID TIRRELL-WYSOCKI (Associated Press Writer)From Associated PressDecember 12, 2008 12:00 PM ESTCONCORD, N.H. - An ice storm knocked out power to more than a million homes and businesses in New England and upstate New York on Friday, and authorities say it could take days for all of them to get service back.The storm brought rain, freezing rain, sleet and snow through the night, and in some areas, including hard-hit New Hampshire, the miserable mix was continuing Friday.The governors of Massachusetts and New Hampshire declared states of emergency Friday morning, and schools were closed and travel disrupted across the region. New Hampshire's court system canceled all hearings and trials for the day."I urge all New Hampshire citizens to take sensible precautions and heed all warnings from public officials," Gov. John Lynch said.Fire departments were responding to reports of transformer explosions, wires and utility poles down and trees falling on homes. Utility crews were so busy dealing with public safety hazards like live power lines that they weren't immediately able to begin restoration efforts.Utilities reported 392,000 homes and businesses without power in New Hampshire, including 300,000 served by the state's largest utility, Public Service Company of New Hampshire. The outages there far surpassed the infamous ice storm of 1998, when some residents spent more than a week in the dark.In Hampstead, N.H., Mark Cegelis, 36, said things were hectic at his neighborhood gas station, which was jammed with people trying to get gas for home generators."It's kind of lawless out there right now. There's a lot of people very frustrated, stacking up at the gas stations. It's pretty ugly."He bought 21 gallons for himself and tried to deliver some to some friends in Derry but couldn't get there because of downed trees blocking roads. So his friends came to him instead, and were expected to hunker down until power was restored.Gov. Deval Patrick's emergency declaration in Massachusetts would enable the governor to take further steps, such as mobilizing the National Guard, if needed as the day wore on, officials said.At a midmorning news conference, Patrick said 350,000 customers across the state were without power - and the number had risen 150,000 homes in just an hour. He said it would be "ambitious" to think power would be restored by Monday."This is not going to be a couple of hours," Patrick said. "It's likely to be several days."In eastern New York, particularly around Albany, the state capital, outages at National Grid and other utilities brought the total in the state to more than 235,000."Trees were down on all the roads," said Miguel Figueroa, 28, as he waited for coffee at a Starbucks in Colonie, N.Y. "... I couldn't even get on the Thruway today."At least 20 Massachusetts towns declared local states of emergency even before the governor made the statewide declaration."Stay home if you live in Holden, don't come to Holden if you work here," Holden, Mass., fire Chief Jack Chandler said. The entire town was without power and some senior citizens on oxygen were transported to a hospital or a shelter opened at the town's senior center.Central Maine Power Co. said more than 190,000 customers in the dark as of late Friday morning, mostly in southern and coastal areas. Bangor Hydro Electric Co. reported more than 11,000 outages.Maine Gov. John Baldacci declared a limited emergency allowing utility crews to work longer hours.In Vermont, 25,800 customers were without power Friday morning. Several inches of snow, caked with ice toppled trees onto roads and power lines.The ice even extended to a small area of Pennsylvania, where about 4,700 PPL Corp. customers, most of them in the Poconos, were without electricity. In most of the state, though, the storm system left its mark in the form of heavy rain or rain changing to snow.---Associated Press writers Holly Ramer in Concord, N.H.; Mark Pratt in Boston; Clarke Canfield in Portland, Maine; John Curran and Lisa Rathke in Montpelier, Vt.; and Mike Hill and Jessica M. Pasko in Albany, N.Y., contributed to this report.Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.---To send an email to -

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yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck

we're expecting our own storm/cold

yuck yuck yuck!

 

 

 

Snow may provide weekend treat in Bay Area

Kelly Zito, Chronicle Staff Writer

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Bay Area peaks may get frosted with a few flakes this weekend, with a wintry cold front charging south from Alaska.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The cold air is expected to reach Northern California on Saturday evening, dropping snow as low as 1,500 feet, according to the National Weather Service. At that level, Mount Tamalpais, Mount Diablo and Mount Hamilton could see a dusting.

Temperatures in San Francisco are expected to drop to lows in the mid-40s; inland temperatures could fall to the mid-30s.

"Every winter we usually have one event, and sometimes a couple, that crank (the snow level) down that low," said Maury Roos, chief meteorologist with the California Department of Water Resources. "It's neat to look at if you can see it."

Total precipitation for Saturday's storm, as well as another right behind it, could total about 2 inches.

That could translate to as much as 20 inches of snow in the Sierra Nevada. That's good news for California water users, because the bulk of the annual supply comes from the range's snowpack. It's also a boon to ski resorts where the season has gotten off to a slow start.

So far, Heavenly Mountain Resort has just an 18-inch base and three of 94 trails open. But officials there are excited by the prospect of especially low temperatures, which will allow them to manufacture more snow.

"We're lucky, we've got the snow-making system until Mother Nature decides to chip in," said Russ Pecoraro, Heavenly's vice president of marketing.

Yet the storms aren't likely to add too much to the state's reservoirs. Two dry winters have left the state's water storage at 70 percent of average capacity for this time of year. Although that's better than the 55 percent during the six-year drought between 1987 and 1992, it's far below a "wet" year - 120 percent in 2006.

This season, there has only been one decent-size storm and a slight sprinkling. Because most of California's precipitation for the year comes from five to seven large storms, meteorologists hope this weekend's system marks the beginning of the real rain.

"If we don't get a lot more precipitation this month, we'll be quite a bit below average, and the reservoirs will slip below the 70 percent we're at," Roos said.

In anticipation of the cold weather, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has directed the state Office of Emergency Services to work with state and local agencies to offer emergency services.

The National Guard has opened three armories as winter shelters in Sunnyvale, Gilroy and Santa Cruz.

The Sunnyvale National Guard Armory is located at 620 E. Maude Ave.; the National Guard Armory in Gilroy is at 8490 Wren Ave.; and the armory in Santa Cruz is open at 301 Armory Road, DeLaveaga Park.

Bay City News contributed to this report. E-mail Kelly Zito at kzito.

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"jo.heartwork" Dec 13, 2008 2:08 AM Re: its dangerous out in New England

 

 

 

 

We had thick ice in the morning, with icicles on the car, but then rain later.

 

JO

 

 

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Re: its dangerous out in New England

 

 

Those who didn't get ice got rain. I'm in the area where it got rain, and a major route was almos completely flooded out this morning.

On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:26 PM, fraggle <EBbrewpunx (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote:

Storm cuts power to more than 1M in New EnglandIce surrounds the branches of a tree after a storm in East Derry, N.H., Friday Dec. 12, 2008. Hundreds of thousands of residents in New Hampshire, Maine and Vermont were without power Friday as an ice storm dropped trees and power lines all over the region. Charles KrupaBy DAVID TIRRELL-WYSOCKI (Associated Press Writer)From Associated PressDecember 12, 2008 12:00 PM ESTCONCORD, N.H. - An ice storm knocked out power to more than a million homes and businesses in New England and upstate New York on Friday, and authorities say it could take days for all of them to get service back.The storm brought rain, freezing rain, sleet and snow through the night, and in some areas, including hard-hit New Hampshire, the miserable mix was continuing Friday.The governors of Massachusetts and New Hampshire declared states of emergency Friday morning, and schools were closed and travel disrupted across the region. New Hampshire's court system canceled all hearings and trials for the day."I urge all New Hampshire citizens to take sensible precautions and heed all warnings from public officials," Gov. John Lynch said.Fire departments were responding to reports of transformer explosions, wires and utility poles down and trees falling on homes. Utility crews were so busy dealing with public safety hazards like live power lines that they weren't immediately able to begin restoration efforts.Utilities reported 392,000 homes and businesses without power in New Hampshire, including 300,000 served by the state's largest utility, Public Service Company of New Hampshire. The outages there far surpassed the infamous ice storm of 1998, when some residents spent more than a week in the dark.In Hampstead, N.H., Mark Cegelis, 36, said things were hectic at his neighborhood gas station, which was jammed with people trying to get gas for home generators."It's kind of lawless out there right now. There's a lot of people very frustrated, stacking up at the gas stations. It's pretty ugly."He bought 21 gallons for himself and tried to deliver some to some friends in Derry but couldn't get there because of downed trees blocking roads. So his friends came to him instead, and were expected to hunker down until power was restored.Gov. Deval Patrick's emergency declaration in Massachusetts would enable the governor to take further steps, such as mobilizing the National Guard, if needed as the day wore on, officials said.At a midmorning news conference, Patrick said 350,000 customers across the state were without power - and the number had risen 150,000 homes in just an hour. He said it would be "ambitious" to think power would be restored by Monday."This is not going to be a couple of hours," Patrick said. "It's likely to be several days."In eastern New York, particularly around Albany, the state capital, outages at National Grid and other utilities brought the total in the state to more than 235,000."Trees were down on all the roads," said Miguel Figueroa, 28, as he waited for coffee at a Starbucks in Colonie, N.Y. "... I couldn't even get on the Thruway today."At least 20 Massachusetts towns declared local states of emergency even before the governor made the statewide declaration."Stay home if you live in Holden, don't come to Holden if you work here," Holden, Mass., fire Chief Jack Chandler said. The entire town was without power and some senior citizens on oxygen were transported to a hospital or a shelter opened at the town's senior center.Central Maine Power Co. said more than 190,000 customers in the dark as of late Friday morning, mostly in southern and coastal areas. Bangor Hydro Electric Co. reported more than 11,000 outages.Maine Gov. John Baldacci declared a limited emergency allowing utility crews to work longer hours.In Vermont, 25,800 customers were without power Friday morning. Several inches of snow, caked with ice toppled trees onto roads and power lines.The ice even extended to a small area of Pennsylvania, where about 4,700 PPL Corp. customers, most of them in the Poconos, were without electricity. In most of the state, though, the storm system left its mark in the form of heavy rain or rain changing to snow.---Associated Press writers Holly Ramer in Concord, N.H.; Mark Pratt in Boston; Clarke Canfield in Portland, Maine; John Curran and Lisa Rathke in Montpelier, Vt.; and Mike Hill and Jessica M. Pasko in Albany, N.Y., contributed to this report.Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.---To send an email to -

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Dry over here, quite warm. High of 41 low of 28F

 

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yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck

we're expecting our own storm/cold

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The cold air is expected to reach Northern California on Saturday evening, dropping snow as low as 1,500 feet, according to the National Weather Service. At that level, Mount Tamalpais, Mount Diablo and Mount Hamilton could see a dusting.

Temperatures in San Francisco are expected to drop to lows in the mid-40s; inland temperatures could fall to the mid-30s.

"Every winter we usually have one event, and sometimes a couple, that crank (the snow level) down that low," said Maury Roos, chief meteorologist with the California Department of Water Resources. "It's neat to look at if you can see it."

Total precipitation for Saturday's storm, as well as another right behind it, could total about 2 inches.

That could translate to as much as 20 inches of snow in the Sierra Nevada. That's good news for California water users, because the bulk of the annual supply comes from the range's snowpack. It's also a boon to ski resorts where the season has gotten off to a slow start.

So far, Heavenly Mountain Resort has just an 18-inch base and three of 94 trails open. But officials there are excited by the prospect of especially low temperatures, which will allow them to manufacture more snow.

"We're lucky, we've got the snow-making system until Mother Nature decides to chip in," said Russ Pecoraro, Heavenly's vice president of marketing.

Yet the storms aren't likely to add too much to the state's reservoirs. Two dry winters have left the state's water storage at 70 percent of average capacity for this time of year. Although that's better than the 55 percent during the six-year drought between 1987 and 1992, it's far below a "wet" year - 120 percent in 2006.

This season, there has only been one decent-size storm and a slight sprinkling. Because most of California's precipitation for the year comes from five to seven large storms, meteorologists hope this weekend's system marks the beginning of the real rain.

"If we don't get a lot more precipitation this month, we'll be quite a bit below average, and the reservoirs will slip below the 70 percent we're at," Roos said.

In anticipation of the cold weather, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has directed the state Office of Emergency Services to work with state and local agencies to offer emergency services.

The National Guard has opened three armories as winter shelters in Sunnyvale, Gilroy and Santa Cruz.

The Sunnyvale National Guard Armory is located at 620 E. Maude Ave.; the National Guard Armory in Gilroy is at 8490 Wren Ave.; and the armory in Santa Cruz is open at 301 Armory Road, DeLaveaga Park.

Bay City News contributed to this report. E-mail Kelly Zito at kzito (AT) sfchronicle (DOT) com.

This article appeared on page B - 4 of the San Francisco Chronicle

"jo.heartwork" Dec 13, 2008 2:08 AM @gro ups.com Re: its dangerous out in New England

 

 

 

 

We had thick ice in the morning, with icicles on the car, but then rain later.

 

JO

 

 

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Those who didn't get ice got rain. I'm in the area where it got rain, and a major route was almos completely flooded out this morning.

On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:26 PM, fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.net> wrote:

Storm cuts power to more than 1M in New EnglandIce surrounds the branches of a tree after a storm in East Derry, N.H., Friday Dec. 12, 2008. Hundreds of thousands of residents in New Hampshire, Maine and Vermont were without power Friday as an ice storm dropped trees and power lines all over the region. Charles KrupaBy DAVID TIRRELL-WYSOCKI (Associated Press Writer)From Associated PressDecember 12, 2008 12:00 PM ESTCONCORD, N.H. - An ice storm knocked out power to more than a million homes and businesses in New England and upstate New York on Friday, and authorities say it could take days for all of them to get service back.The storm brought rain, freezing rain, sleet and snow through the night, and in some areas, including hard-hit New Hampshire, the miserable mix was continuing Friday.The governors of Massachusetts and New Hampshire declared

states of emergency Friday morning, and schools were closed and travel disrupted across the region. New Hampshire's court system canceled all hearings and trials for the day."I urge all New Hampshire citizens to take sensible precautions and heed all warnings from public officials," Gov. John Lynch said.Fire departments were responding to reports of transformer explosions, wires and utility poles down and trees falling on homes. Utility crews were so busy dealing with public safety hazards like live power lines that they weren't immediately able to begin restoration efforts.Utilities reported 392,000 homes and businesses without power in New Hampshire, including 300,000 served by the state's largest utility, Public Service Company of New Hampshire. The outages there far surpassed the infamous ice storm of 1998, when some residents spent more than a week in the dark.In Hampstead, N.H., Mark Cegelis, 36, said things were

hectic at his neighborhood gas station, which was jammed with people trying to get gas for home generators."It's kind of lawless out there right now. There's a lot of people very frustrated, stacking up at the gas stations. It's pretty ugly."He bought 21 gallons for himself and tried to deliver some to some friends in Derry but couldn't get there because of downed trees blocking roads. So his friends came to him instead, and were expected to hunker down until power was restored.Gov. Deval Patrick's emergency declaration in Massachusetts would enable the governor to take further steps, such as mobilizing the National Guard, if needed as the day wore on, officials said.At a midmorning news conference, Patrick said 350,000 customers across the state were without power - and the number had risen 150,000 homes in just an hour. He said it would be "ambitious" to think power would be restored by Monday."This is not going

to be a couple of hours," Patrick said. "It's likely to be several days."In eastern New York, particularly around Albany, the state capital, outages at National Grid and other utilities brought the total in the state to more than 235,000."Trees were down on all the roads," said Miguel Figueroa, 28, as he waited for coffee at a Starbucks in Colonie, N.Y. "... I couldn't even get on the Thruway today."At least 20 Massachusetts towns declared local states of emergency even before the governor made the statewide declaration."Stay home if you live in Holden, don't come to Holden if you work here," Holden, Mass., fire Chief Jack Chandler said. The entire town was without power and some senior citizens on oxygen were transported to a hospital or a shelter opened at the town's senior center.Central Maine Power Co. said more than 190,000 customers in the dark as of late Friday morning, mostly in southern and coastal areas.

Bangor Hydro Electric Co. reported more than 11,000 outages.Maine Gov. John Baldacci declared a limited emergency allowing utility crews to work longer hours.In Vermont, 25,800 customers were without power Friday morning. Several inches of snow, caked with ice toppled trees onto roads and power lines.The ice even extended to a small area of Pennsylvania, where about 4,700 PPL Corp. customers, most of them in the Poconos, were without electricity. In most of the state, though, the storm system left its mark in the form of heavy rain or rain changing to snow.---Associated Press writers Holly Ramer in Concord, N.H.; Mark Pratt in Boston; Clarke Canfield in Portland, Maine; John Curran and Lisa Rathke in Montpelier, Vt.; and Mike Hill and Jessica M. Pasko in Albany, N.Y., contributed to this report.Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast,

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I thought there were floods in Wales today!?

 

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Dry over here, quite warm. High of 41 low of 28F

 

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fraggle <EBbrewpunx (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> Sent: Saturday, 13 December, 2008 3:51:30 PMRe: its dangerous out in New England

 

 

yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck

we're expecting our own storm/cold

yuck yuck yuck!

 

 

 

Snow may provide weekend treat in Bay Area

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The cold air is expected to reach Northern California on Saturday evening, dropping snow as low as 1,500 feet, according to the National Weather Service. At that level, Mount Tamalpais, Mount Diablo and Mount Hamilton could see a dusting.

Temperatures in San Francisco are expected to drop to lows in the mid-40s; inland temperatures could fall to the mid-30s.

"Every winter we usually have one event, and sometimes a couple, that crank (the snow level) down that low," said Maury Roos, chief meteorologist with the California Department of Water Resources. "It's neat to look at if you can see it."

Total precipitation for Saturday's storm, as well as another right behind it, could total about 2 inches.

That could translate to as much as 20 inches of snow in the Sierra Nevada. That's good news for California water users, because the bulk of the annual supply comes from the range's snowpack. It's also a boon to ski resorts where the season has gotten off to a slow start.

So far, Heavenly Mountain Resort has just an 18-inch base and three of 94 trails open. But officials there are excited by the prospect of especially low temperatures, which will allow them to manufacture more snow.

"We're lucky, we've got the snow-making system until Mother Nature decides to chip in," said Russ Pecoraro, Heavenly's vice president of marketing.

Yet the storms aren't likely to add too much to the state's reservoirs. Two dry winters have left the state's water storage at 70 percent of average capacity for this time of year. Although that's better than the 55 percent during the six-year drought between 1987 and 1992, it's far below a "wet" year - 120 percent in 2006.

This season, there has only been one decent-size storm and a slight sprinkling. Because most of California's precipitation for the year comes from five to seven large storms, meteorologists hope this weekend's system marks the beginning of the real rain.

"If we don't get a lot more precipitation this month, we'll be quite a bit below average, and the reservoirs will slip below the 70 percent we're at," Roos said.

In anticipation of the cold weather, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has directed the state Office of Emergency Services to work with state and local agencies to offer emergency services.

The National Guard has opened three armories as winter shelters in Sunnyvale, Gilroy and Santa Cruz.

The Sunnyvale National Guard Armory is located at 620 E. Maude Ave.; the National Guard Armory in Gilroy is at 8490 Wren Ave.; and the armory in Santa Cruz is open at 301 Armory Road, DeLaveaga Park.

Bay City News contributed to this report. E-mail Kelly Zito at kzito (AT) sfchronicle (DOT) com.

This article appeared on page B - 4 of the San Francisco Chronicle

"jo.heartwork" Dec 13, 2008 2:08 AM @gro ups.com Re: its dangerous out in New England

 

 

 

 

We had thick ice in the morning, with icicles on the car, but then rain later.

 

JO

 

 

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Friday, December 12, 2008 5:50 PM

Re: its dangerous out in New England

 

 

Those who didn't get ice got rain. I'm in the area where it got rain, and a major route was almos completely flooded out this morning.

On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:26 PM, fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.net> wrote:

Storm cuts power to more than 1M in New EnglandIce surrounds the branches of a tree after a storm in East Derry, N.H., Friday Dec. 12, 2008. Hundreds of thousands of residents in New Hampshire, Maine and Vermont were without power Friday as an ice storm dropped trees and power lines all over the region. Charles KrupaBy DAVID TIRRELL-WYSOCKI (Associated Press Writer)From Associated PressDecember 12, 2008 12:00 PM ESTCONCORD, N.H. - An ice storm knocked out power to more than a million homes and businesses in New England and upstate New York on Friday, and authorities say it could take days for all of them to get service back.The storm brought rain, freezing rain, sleet and snow through the night, and in some areas, including hard-hit New Hampshire, the miserable mix was continuing Friday.The governors of Massachusetts and New Hampshire declared states of emergency Friday morning, and schools were closed and travel disrupted across the region. New Hampshire's court system canceled all hearings and trials for the day."I urge all New Hampshire citizens to take sensible precautions and heed all warnings from public officials," Gov. John Lynch said.Fire departments were responding to reports of transformer explosions, wires and utility poles down and trees falling on homes. Utility crews were so busy dealing with public safety hazards like live power lines that they weren't immediately able to begin restoration efforts.Utilities reported 392,000 homes and businesses without power in New Hampshire, including 300,000 served by the state's largest utility, Public Service Company of New Hampshire. The outages there far surpassed the infamous ice storm of 1998, when some residents spent more than a week in the dark.In Hampstead, N.H., Mark Cegelis, 36, said things were hectic at his neighborhood gas station, which was jammed with people trying to get gas for home generators."It's kind of lawless out there right now. There's a lot of people very frustrated, stacking up at the gas stations. It's pretty ugly."He bought 21 gallons for himself and tried to deliver some to some friends in Derry but couldn't get there because of downed trees blocking roads. So his friends came to him instead, and were expected to hunker down until power was restored.Gov. Deval Patrick's emergency declaration in Massachusetts would enable the governor to take further steps, such as mobilizing the National Guard, if needed as the day wore on, officials said.At a midmorning news conference, Patrick said 350,000 customers across the state were without power - and the number had risen 150,000 homes in just an hour. He said it would be "ambitious" to think power would be restored by Monday."This is not going to be a couple of hours," Patrick said. "It's likely to be several days."In eastern New York, particularly around Albany, the state capital, outages at National Grid and other utilities brought the total in the state to more than 235,000."Trees were down on all the roads," said Miguel Figueroa, 28, as he waited for coffee at a Starbucks in Colonie, N.Y. "... I couldn't even get on the Thruway today."At least 20 Massachusetts towns declared local states of emergency even before the governor made the statewide declaration."Stay home if you live in Holden, don't come to Holden if you work here," Holden, Mass., fire Chief Jack Chandler said. The entire town was without power and some senior citizens on oxygen were transported to a hospital or a shelter opened at the town's senior center.Central Maine Power Co. said more than 190,000 customers in the dark as of late Friday morning, mostly in southern and coastal areas. Bangor Hydro Electric Co. reported more than 11,000 outages.Maine Gov. John Baldacci declared a limited emergency allowing utility crews to work longer hours.In Vermont, 25,800 customers were without power Friday morning. Several inches of snow, caked with ice toppled trees onto roads and power lines.The ice even extended to a small area of Pennsylvania, where about 4,700 PPL Corp. customers, most of them in the Poconos, were without electricity. In most of the state, though, the storm system left its mark in the form of heavy rain or rain changing to snow.---Associated Press writers Holly Ramer in Concord, N.H.; Mark Pratt in Boston; Clarke Canfield in Portland, Maine; John Curran and Lisa Rathke in Montpelier, Vt.; and Mike Hill and Jessica M. Pasko in Albany, N.Y., contributed to this report.Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.------------ --------- --------- ------To send an email to -unsubscr ibe

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Surely that is dry... for Wales :-)

 

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I thought there were floods in Wales today!?

 

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Dry over here, quite warm. High of 41 low of 28F

 

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Saturday, 13 December, 2008 3:51:30 PMRe: its dangerous out in New England

 

 

yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck

we're expecting our own storm/cold

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The cold air is expected to reach Northern California on Saturday evening, dropping snow as low as 1,500 feet, according to the National Weather Service. At that level, Mount Tamalpais, Mount Diablo and Mount Hamilton could see a dusting.

Temperatures in San Francisco are expected to drop to lows in the mid-40s; inland temperatures could fall to the mid-30s.

" Every winter we usually have one event, and sometimes a couple, that crank (the snow level) down that low, " said Maury Roos, chief meteorologist with the California Department of Water Resources. " It's neat to look at if you can see it. "

Total precipitation for Saturday's storm, as well as another right behind it, could total about 2 inches.

That could translate to as much as 20 inches of snow in the Sierra Nevada. That's good news for California water users, because the bulk of the annual supply comes from the range's snowpack. It's also a boon to ski resorts where the season has gotten off to a slow start.

So far, Heavenly Mountain Resort has just an 18-inch base and three of 94 trails open. But officials there are excited by the prospect of especially low temperatures, which will allow them to manufacture more snow.

" We're lucky, we've got the snow-making system until Mother Nature decides to chip in, " said Russ Pecoraro, Heavenly's vice president of marketing.

Yet the storms aren't likely to add too much to the state's reservoirs. Two dry winters have left the state's water storage at 70 percent of average capacity for this time of year. Although that's better than the 55 percent during the six-year drought between 1987 and 1992, it's far below a " wet " year - 120 percent in 2006.

This season, there has only been one decent-size storm and a slight sprinkling. Because most of California's precipitation for the year comes from five to seven large storms, meteorologists hope this weekend's system marks the beginning of the real rain.

" If we don't get a lot more precipitation this month, we'll be quite a bit below average, and the reservoirs will slip below the 70 percent we're at, " Roos said.

In anticipation of the cold weather, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has directed the state Office of Emergency Services to work with state and local agencies to offer emergency services.

The National Guard has opened three armories as winter shelters in Sunnyvale, Gilroy and Santa Cruz.

The Sunnyvale National Guard Armory is located at 620 E. Maude Ave.; the National Guard Armory in Gilroy is at 8490 Wren Ave.; and the armory in Santa Cruz is open at 301 Armory Road, DeLaveaga Park.

Bay City News contributed to this report. E-mail Kelly Zito at kzito (AT) sfchronicle (DOT) com.

This article appeared on page B - 4 of the San Francisco Chronicle

" jo.heartwork " Dec 13, 2008 2:08 AM @gro ups.com

Re: its dangerous out in New England

 

 

 

 

We had thick ice in the morning, with icicles on the car, but then rain later.

 

JO

 

 

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Blue Rose

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Friday, December 12, 2008 5:50 PM

Re: its dangerous out in New England

 

 

Those who didn't get ice got rain. I'm in the area where it got rain, and a major route was almos completely flooded out this morning.

On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:26 PM, fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.net> wrote:

Storm cuts power to more than 1M in New EnglandIce surrounds the branches of a tree after a storm in East Derry, N.H., Friday Dec. 12, 2008. Hundreds of thousands of residents in New Hampshire, Maine and Vermont were without power Friday as an ice storm dropped trees and power lines all over the region. Charles Krupa

By DAVID TIRRELL-WYSOCKI (Associated Press Writer)From Associated PressDecember 12, 2008 12:00 PM ESTCONCORD, N.H. - An ice storm knocked out power to more than a million homes and businesses in New England and upstate New York on Friday, and authorities say it could take days for all of them to get service back.

The storm brought rain, freezing rain, sleet and snow through the night, and in some areas, including hard-hit New Hampshire, the miserable mix was continuing Friday.The governors of Massachusetts and New Hampshire declared states of emergency Friday morning, and schools were closed and travel disrupted across the region. New Hampshire's court system canceled all hearings and trials for the day.

" I urge all New Hampshire citizens to take sensible precautions and heed all warnings from public officials, " Gov. John Lynch said.Fire departments were responding to reports of transformer explosions, wires and utility poles down and trees falling on homes. Utility crews were so busy dealing with public safety hazards like live power lines that they weren't immediately able to begin restoration efforts.

Utilities reported 392,000 homes and businesses without power in New Hampshire, including 300,000 served by the state's largest utility, Public Service Company of New Hampshire. The outages there far surpassed the infamous ice storm of 1998, when some residents spent more than a week in the dark.

In Hampstead, N.H., Mark Cegelis, 36, said things were hectic at his neighborhood gas station, which was jammed with people trying to get gas for home generators. " It's kind of lawless out there right now. There's a lot of people very frustrated, stacking up at the gas stations. It's pretty ugly. "

He bought 21 gallons for himself and tried to deliver some to some friends in Derry but couldn't get there because of downed trees blocking roads. So his friends came to him instead, and were expected to hunker down until power was restored.

Gov. Deval Patrick's emergency declaration in Massachusetts would enable the governor to take further steps, such as mobilizing the National Guard, if needed as the day wore on, officials said.At a midmorning news conference, Patrick said 350,000 customers across the state were without power - and the number had risen 150,000 homes in just an hour. He said it would be " ambitious " to think power would be restored by Monday.

" This is not going to be a couple of hours, " Patrick said. " It's likely to be several days. " In eastern New York, particularly around Albany, the state capital, outages at National Grid and other utilities brought the total in the state to more than 235,000.

" Trees were down on all the roads, " said Miguel Figueroa, 28, as he waited for coffee at a Starbucks in Colonie, N.Y. " ... I couldn't even get on the Thruway today. " At least 20 Massachusetts towns declared local states of emergency even before the governor made the statewide declaration.

" Stay home if you live in Holden, don't come to Holden if you work here, " Holden, Mass., fire Chief Jack Chandler said. The entire town was without power and some senior citizens on oxygen were transported to a hospital or a shelter opened at the town's senior center.

Central Maine Power Co. said more than 190,000 customers in the dark as of late Friday morning, mostly in southern and coastal areas. Bangor Hydro Electric Co. reported more than 11,000 outages.Maine Gov. John Baldacci declared a limited emergency allowing utility crews to work longer hours.

In Vermont, 25,800 customers were without power Friday morning. Several inches of snow, caked with ice toppled trees onto roads and power lines.The ice even extended to a small area of Pennsylvania, where about 4,700 PPL Corp. customers, most of them in the Poconos, were without electricity. In most of the state, though, the storm system left its mark in the form of heavy rain or rain changing to snow.

---Associated Press writers Holly Ramer in Concord, N.H.; Mark Pratt in Boston; Clarke Canfield in Portland, Maine; John Curran and Lisa Rathke in Montpelier, Vt.; and Mike Hill and Jessica M. Pasko in Albany, N.Y., contributed to this report.

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Nope, not in my kneck of the woods.?

 

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 I thought there were floods in Wales today!?

 

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Dry over here, quite warm. High of 41 low of 28F

 

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fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.net>@gro ups.comSaturday, 13 December, 2008 3:51:30 PMRe: its dangerous out in New England

 

 

yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck

we're expecting our own storm/cold

yuck yuck yuck!

 

 

 

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The cold air is expected to reach Northern California on Saturday evening, dropping snow as low as 1,500 feet, according to the National Weather Service. At that level, Mount Tamalpais, Mount Diablo and Mount Hamilton could see a dusting.

Temperatures in San Francisco are expected to drop to lows in the mid-40s; inland temperatures could fall to the mid-30s.

"Every winter we usually have one event, and sometimes a couple, that crank (the snow level) down that low," said Maury Roos, chief meteorologist with the California Department of Water Resources. "It's neat to look at if you can see it."

Total precipitation for Saturday's storm, as well as another right behind it, could total about 2 inches.

That could translate to as much as 20 inches of snow in the Sierra Nevada. That's good news for California water users, because the bulk of the annual supply comes from the range's snowpack. It's also a boon to ski resorts where the season has gotten off to a slow start.

So far, Heavenly Mountain Resort has just an 18-inch base and three of 94 trails open. But officials there are excited by the prospect of especially low temperatures, which will allow them to manufacture more snow.

"We're lucky, we've got the snow-making system until Mother Nature decides to chip in," said Russ Pecoraro, Heavenly's vice president of marketing.

Yet the storms aren't likely to add too much to the state's reservoirs. Two dry winters have left the state's water storage at 70 percent of average capacity for this time of year. Although that's better than the 55 percent during the six-year drought between 1987 and 1992, it's far below a "wet" year - 120 percent in 2006.

This season, there has only been one decent-size storm and a slight sprinkling. Because most of California's precipitation for the year comes from five to seven large storms, meteorologists hope this weekend's system marks the beginning of the real rain.

"If we don't get a lot more precipitation this month, we'll be quite a bit below average, and the reservoirs will slip below the 70 percent we're at," Roos said.

In anticipation of the cold weather, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has directed the state Office of Emergency Services to work with state and local agencies to offer emergency services.

The National Guard has opened three armories as winter shelters in Sunnyvale, Gilroy and Santa Cruz.

The Sunnyvale National Guard Armory is located at 620 E. Maude Ave.; the National Guard Armory in Gilroy is at 8490 Wren Ave.; and the armory in Santa Cruz is open at 301 Armory Road, DeLaveaga Park.

Bay City News contributed to this report. E-mail Kelly Zito at kzito (AT) sfchronicle (DOT) com.

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"jo.heartwork" Dec 13, 2008 2:08 AM @gro ups.com Re: its dangerous out in New England

 

 

 

 

We had thick ice in the morning, with icicles on the car, but then rain later.

 

JO

 

 

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Those who didn't get ice got rain. I'm in the area where it got rain, and a major route was almos completely flooded out this morning.

On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:26 PM, fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.net> wrote:

Storm cuts power to more than 1M in New EnglandIce surrounds the branches of a tree after a storm in East Derry, N.H., Friday Dec. 12, 2008. Hundreds of thousands of residents in New Hampshire, Maine and Vermont were without power Friday as an ice storm dropped trees and power lines all over the region. Charles KrupaBy DAVID TIRRELL-WYSOCKI (Associated Press Writer)From Associated PressDecember 12, 2008 12:00 PM ESTCONCORD, N.H. - An ice storm knocked out power to more than a million homes and businesses in New England and upstate New York on Friday, and authorities say it could take days for all of them to get service back.The storm brought rain, freezing rain, sleet and snow through the night, and in some areas, including hard-hit New Hampshire, the miserable mix was continuing Friday.The governors of Massachusetts and New Hampshire declared

states of emergency Friday morning, and schools were closed and travel disrupted across the region. New Hampshire's court system canceled all hearings and trials for the day."I urge all New Hampshire citizens to take sensible precautions and heed all warnings from public officials," Gov. John Lynch said.Fire departments were responding to reports of transformer explosions, wires and utility poles down and trees falling on homes. Utility crews were so busy dealing with public safety hazards like live power lines that they weren't immediately able to begin restoration efforts.Utilities reported 392,000 homes and businesses without power in New Hampshire, including 300,000 served by the state's largest utility, Public Service Company of New Hampshire. The outages there far surpassed the infamous ice storm of 1998, when some residents spent more than a week in the dark.In Hampstead, N.H., Mark Cegelis, 36, said things were

hectic at his neighborhood gas station, which was jammed with people trying to get gas for home generators."It's kind of lawless out there right now. There's a lot of people very frustrated, stacking up at the gas stations. It's pretty ugly."He bought 21 gallons for himself and tried to deliver some to some friends in Derry but couldn't get there because of downed trees blocking roads. So his friends came to him instead, and were expected to hunker down until power was restored.Gov. Deval Patrick's emergency declaration in Massachusetts would enable the governor to take further steps, such as mobilizing the National Guard, if needed as the day wore on, officials said.At a midmorning news conference, Patrick said 350,000 customers across the state were without power - and the number had risen 150,000 homes in just an hour. He said it would be "ambitious" to think power would be restored by Monday."This is not going

to be a couple of hours," Patrick said. "It's likely to be several days."In eastern New York, particularly around Albany, the state capital, outages at National Grid and other utilities brought the total in the state to more than 235,000."Trees were down on all the roads," said Miguel Figueroa, 28, as he waited for coffee at a Starbucks in Colonie, N.Y. "... I couldn't even get on the Thruway today."At least 20 Massachusetts towns declared local states of emergency even before the governor made the statewide declaration."Stay home if you live in Holden, don't come to Holden if you work here," Holden, Mass., fire Chief Jack Chandler said. The entire town was without power and some senior citizens on oxygen were transported to a hospital or a shelter opened at the town's senior center.Central Maine Power Co. said more than 190,000 customers in the dark as of late Friday morning, mostly in southern and coastal areas.

Bangor Hydro Electric Co. reported more than 11,000 outages.Maine Gov. John Baldacci declared a limited emergency allowing utility crews to work longer hours.In Vermont, 25,800 customers were without power Friday morning. Several inches of snow, caked with ice toppled trees onto roads and power lines.The ice even extended to a small area of Pennsylvania, where about 4,700 PPL Corp. customers, most of them in the Poconos, were without electricity. In most of the state, though, the storm system left its mark in the form of heavy rain or rain changing to snow.---Associated Press writers Holly Ramer in Concord, N.H.; Mark Pratt in Boston; Clarke Canfield in Portland, Maine; John Curran and Lisa Rathke in Montpelier, Vt.; and Mike Hill and Jessica M. Pasko in Albany, N.Y., contributed to this report.Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast,

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LOL - if our camping holiday is anything to go by, you are right!

 

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Surely that is dry... for Wales :-)

 

BB

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I thought there were floods in Wales today!?

 

Jo

 

 

 

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Dry over here, quite warm. High of 41 low of 28F

 

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fraggle <EBbrewpunx (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> Sent: Saturday, 13 December, 2008 3:51:30 PMRe: its dangerous out in New England

 

 

yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck

we're expecting our own storm/cold

yuck yuck yuck!

 

 

 

Snow may provide weekend treat in Bay Area

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Friday, December 12, 2008

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The cold air is expected to reach Northern California on Saturday evening, dropping snow as low as 1,500 feet, according to the National Weather Service. At that level, Mount Tamalpais, Mount Diablo and Mount Hamilton could see a dusting.

Temperatures in San Francisco are expected to drop to lows in the mid-40s; inland temperatures could fall to the mid-30s.

"Every winter we usually have one event, and sometimes a couple, that crank (the snow level) down that low," said Maury Roos, chief meteorologist with the California Department of Water Resources. "It's neat to look at if you can see it."

Total precipitation for Saturday's storm, as well as another right behind it, could total about 2 inches.

That could translate to as much as 20 inches of snow in the Sierra Nevada. That's good news for California water users, because the bulk of the annual supply comes from the range's snowpack. It's also a boon to ski resorts where the season has gotten off to a slow start.

So far, Heavenly Mountain Resort has just an 18-inch base and three of 94 trails open. But officials there are excited by the prospect of especially low temperatures, which will allow them to manufacture more snow.

"We're lucky, we've got the snow-making system until Mother Nature decides to chip in," said Russ Pecoraro, Heavenly's vice president of marketing.

Yet the storms aren't likely to add too much to the state's reservoirs. Two dry winters have left the state's water storage at 70 percent of average capacity for this time of year. Although that's better than the 55 percent during the six-year drought between 1987 and 1992, it's far below a "wet" year - 120 percent in 2006.

This season, there has only been one decent-size storm and a slight sprinkling. Because most of California's precipitation for the year comes from five to seven large storms, meteorologists hope this weekend's system marks the beginning of the real rain.

"If we don't get a lot more precipitation this month, we'll be quite a bit below average, and the reservoirs will slip below the 70 percent we're at," Roos said.

In anticipation of the cold weather, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has directed the state Office of Emergency Services to work with state and local agencies to offer emergency services.

The National Guard has opened three armories as winter shelters in Sunnyvale, Gilroy and Santa Cruz.

The Sunnyvale National Guard Armory is located at 620 E. Maude Ave.; the National Guard Armory in Gilroy is at 8490 Wren Ave.; and the armory in Santa Cruz is open at 301 Armory Road, DeLaveaga Park.

Bay City News contributed to this report. E-mail Kelly Zito at kzito (AT) sfchronicle (DOT) com.

This article appeared on page B - 4 of the San Francisco Chronicle

"jo.heartwork" Dec 13, 2008 2:08 AM @gro ups.com Re: its dangerous out in New England

 

 

 

 

We had thick ice in the morning, with icicles on the car, but then rain later.

 

JO

 

 

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Friday, December 12, 2008 5:50 PM

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Those who didn't get ice got rain. I'm in the area where it got rain, and a major route was almos completely flooded out this morning.

On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:26 PM, fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.net> wrote:

Storm cuts power to more than 1M in New EnglandIce surrounds the branches of a tree after a storm in East Derry, N.H., Friday Dec. 12, 2008. Hundreds of thousands of residents in New Hampshire, Maine and Vermont were without power Friday as an ice storm dropped trees and power lines all over the region. Charles KrupaBy DAVID TIRRELL-WYSOCKI (Associated Press Writer)From Associated PressDecember 12, 2008 12:00 PM ESTCONCORD, N.H. - An ice storm knocked out power to more than a million homes and businesses in New England and upstate New York on Friday, and authorities say it could take days for all of them to get service back.The storm brought rain, freezing rain, sleet and snow through the night, and in some areas, including hard-hit New Hampshire, the miserable mix was continuing Friday.The governors of Massachusetts and New Hampshire declared states of emergency Friday morning, and schools were closed and travel disrupted across the region. New Hampshire's court system canceled all hearings and trials for the day."I urge all New Hampshire citizens to take sensible precautions and heed all warnings from public officials," Gov. John Lynch said.Fire departments were responding to reports of transformer explosions, wires and utility poles down and trees falling on homes. Utility crews were so busy dealing with public safety hazards like live power lines that they weren't immediately able to begin restoration efforts.Utilities reported 392,000 homes and businesses without power in New Hampshire, including 300,000 served by the state's largest utility, Public Service Company of New Hampshire. The outages there far surpassed the infamous ice storm of 1998, when some residents spent more than a week in the dark.In Hampstead, N.H., Mark Cegelis, 36, said things were hectic at his neighborhood gas station, which was jammed with people trying to get gas for home generators."It's kind of lawless out there right now. There's a lot of people very frustrated, stacking up at the gas stations. It's pretty ugly."He bought 21 gallons for himself and tried to deliver some to some friends in Derry but couldn't get there because of downed trees blocking roads. So his friends came to him instead, and were expected to hunker down until power was restored.Gov. Deval Patrick's emergency declaration in Massachusetts would enable the governor to take further steps, such as mobilizing the National Guard, if needed as the day wore on, officials said.At a midmorning news conference, Patrick said 350,000 customers across the state were without power - and the number had risen 150,000 homes in just an hour. He said it would be "ambitious" to think power would be restored by Monday."This is not going to be a couple of hours," Patrick said. "It's likely to be several days."In eastern New York, particularly around Albany, the state capital, outages at National Grid and other utilities brought the total in the state to more than 235,000."Trees were down on all the roads," said Miguel Figueroa, 28, as he waited for coffee at a Starbucks in Colonie, N.Y. "... I couldn't even get on the Thruway today."At least 20 Massachusetts towns declared local states of emergency even before the governor made the statewide declaration."Stay home if you live in Holden, don't come to Holden if you work here," Holden, Mass., fire Chief Jack Chandler said. The entire town was without power and some senior citizens on oxygen were transported to a hospital or a shelter opened at the town's senior center.Central Maine Power Co. said more than 190,000 customers in the dark as of late Friday morning, mostly in southern and coastal areas. Bangor Hydro Electric Co. reported more than 11,000 outages.Maine Gov. John Baldacci declared a limited emergency allowing utility crews to work longer hours.In Vermont, 25,800 customers were without power Friday morning. Several inches of snow, caked with ice toppled trees onto roads and power lines.The ice even extended to a small area of Pennsylvania, where about 4,700 PPL Corp. customers, most of them in the Poconos, were without electricity. In most of the state, though, the storm system left its mark in the form of heavy rain or rain changing to snow.---Associated Press writers Holly Ramer in Concord, N.H.; Mark Pratt in Boston; Clarke Canfield in Portland, Maine; John Curran and Lisa Rathke in Montpelier, Vt.; and Mike Hill and Jessica M. Pasko in Albany, N.Y., contributed to this report.Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.------------ --------- --------- ------To send an email to -unsubscr ibe

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i need to bring the coffee bush in....

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Nope, not in my kneck of the woods.?

 

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jo.heartwork <jo.heartwork > Sent: Sunday, 14 December, 2008 12:35:38 AMRe: its dangerous out in New England

 

 I thought there were floods in Wales today!?

 

Jo

 

 

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Dry over here, quite warm. High of 41 low of 28F

 

Peter vv

 

 

 

 

fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.net>@gro ups.comSaturday, 13 December, 2008 3:51:30 PMRe: its dangerous out in New England

 

 

yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck

we're expecting our own storm/cold

yuck yuck yuck!

 

 

 

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The cold air is expected to reach Northern California on Saturday evening, dropping snow as low as 1,500 feet, according to the National Weather Service. At that level, Mount Tamalpais, Mount Diablo and Mount Hamilton could see a dusting.

Temperatures in San Francisco are expected to drop to lows in the mid-40s; inland temperatures could fall to the mid-30s.

"Every winter we usually have one event, and sometimes a couple, that crank (the snow level) down that low," said Maury Roos, chief meteorologist with the California Department of Water Resources. "It's neat to look at if you can see it."

Total precipitation for Saturday's storm, as well as another right behind it, could total about 2 inches.

That could translate to as much as 20 inches of snow in the Sierra Nevada. That's good news for California water users, because the bulk of the annual supply comes from the range's snowpack. It's also a boon to ski resorts where the season has gotten off to a slow start.

So far, Heavenly Mountain Resort has just an 18-inch base and three of 94 trails open. But officials there are excited by the prospect of especially low temperatures, which will allow them to manufacture more snow.

"We're lucky, we've got the snow-making system until Mother Nature decides to chip in," said Russ Pecoraro, Heavenly's vice president of marketing.

Yet the storms aren't likely to add too much to the state's reservoirs. Two dry winters have left the state's water storage at 70 percent of average capacity for this time of year. Although that's better than the 55 percent during the six-year drought between 1987 and 1992, it's far below a "wet" year - 120 percent in 2006.

This season, there has only been one decent-size storm and a slight sprinkling. Because most of California's precipitation for the year comes from five to seven large storms, meteorologists hope this weekend's system marks the beginning of the real rain.

"If we don't get a lot more precipitation this month, we'll be quite a bit below average, and the reservoirs will slip below the 70 percent we're at," Roos said.

In anticipation of the cold weather, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has directed the state Office of Emergency Services to work with state and local agencies to offer emergency services.

The National Guard has opened three armories as winter shelters in Sunnyvale, Gilroy and Santa Cruz.

The Sunnyvale National Guard Armory is located at 620 E. Maude Ave.; the National Guard Armory in Gilroy is at 8490 Wren Ave.; and the armory in Santa Cruz is open at 301 Armory Road, DeLaveaga Park.

Bay City News contributed to this report. E-mail Kelly Zito at kzito (AT) sfchronicle (DOT) com.

This article appeared on page B - 4 of the San Francisco Chronicle

"jo.heartwork" Dec 13, 2008 2:08 AM @gro ups.com Re: its dangerous out in New England

 

 

 

 

We had thick ice in the morning, with icicles on the car, but then rain later.

 

JO

 

 

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Friday, December 12, 2008 5:50 PM

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Those who didn't get ice got rain. I'm in the area where it got rain, and a major route was almos completely flooded out this morning.

On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:26 PM, fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.net> wrote:

Storm cuts power to more than 1M in New EnglandIce surrounds the branches of a tree after a storm in East Derry, N.H., Friday Dec. 12, 2008. Hundreds of thousands of residents in New Hampshire, Maine and Vermont were without power Friday as an ice storm dropped trees and power lines all over the region. Charles KrupaBy DAVID TIRRELL-WYSOCKI (Associated Press Writer)From Associated PressDecember 12, 2008 12:00 PM ESTCONCORD, N.H. - An ice storm knocked out power to more than a million homes and businesses in New England and upstate New York on Friday, and authorities say it could take days for all of them to get service back.The storm brought rain, freezing rain, sleet and snow through the night, and in some areas, including hard-hit New Hampshire, the miserable mix was continuing Friday.The governors of Massachusetts and New Hampshire declared states of emergency Friday morning, and schools were closed and travel disrupted across the region. New Hampshire's court system canceled all hearings and trials for the day."I urge all New Hampshire citizens to take sensible precautions and heed all warnings from public officials," Gov. John Lynch said.Fire departments were responding to reports of transformer explosions, wires and utility poles down and trees falling on homes. Utility crews were so busy dealing with public safety hazards like live power lines that they weren't immediately able to begin restoration efforts.Utilities reported 392,000 homes and businesses without power in New Hampshire, including 300,000 served by the state's largest utility, Public Service Company of New Hampshire. The outages there far surpassed the infamous ice storm of 1998, when some residents spent more than a week in the dark.In Hampstead, N.H., Mark Cegelis, 36, said things were hectic at his neighborhood gas station, which was jammed with people trying to get gas for home generators."It's kind of lawless out there right now. There's a lot of people very frustrated, stacking up at the gas stations. It's pretty ugly."He bought 21 gallons for himself and tried to deliver some to some friends in Derry but couldn't get there because of downed trees blocking roads. So his friends came to him instead, and were expected to hunker down until power was restored.Gov. Deval Patrick's emergency declaration in Massachusetts would enable the governor to take further steps, such as mobilizing the National Guard, if needed as the day wore on, officials said.At a midmorning news conference, Patrick said 350,000 customers across the state were without power - and the number had risen 150,000 homes in just an hour. He said it would be "ambitious" to think power would be restored by Monday."This is not going to be a couple of hours," Patrick said. "It's likely to be several days."In eastern New York, particularly around Albany, the state capital, outages at National Grid and other utilities brought the total in the state to more than 235,000."Trees were down on all the roads," said Miguel Figueroa, 28, as he waited for coffee at a Starbucks in Colonie, N.Y. "... I couldn't even get on the Thruway today."At least 20 Massachusetts towns declared local states of emergency even before the governor made the statewide declaration."Stay home if you live in Holden, don't come to Holden if you work here," Holden, Mass., fire Chief Jack Chandler said. The entire town was without power and some senior citizens on oxygen were transported to a hospital or a shelter opened at the town's senior center.Central Maine Power Co. said more than 190,000 customers in the dark as of late Friday morning, mostly in southern and coastal areas. Bangor Hydro Electric Co. reported more than 11,000 outages.Maine Gov. John Baldacci declared a limited emergency allowing utility crews to work longer hours.In Vermont, 25,800 customers were without power Friday morning. Several inches of snow, caked with ice toppled trees onto roads and power lines.The ice even extended to a small area of Pennsylvania, where about 4,700 PPL Corp. customers, most of them in the Poconos, were without electricity. In most of the state, though, the storm system left its mark in the form of heavy rain or rain changing to snow.---Associated Press writers Holly Ramer in Concord, N.H.; Mark Pratt in Boston; Clarke Canfield in Portland, Maine; John Curran and Lisa Rathke in Montpelier, Vt.; and Mike Hill and Jessica M. Pasko in Albany, N.Y., contributed to this report.Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.------------ --------- --------- ------To send an email to -unsubscr ibe

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