Dairy

[Guest guest]

I ordered this product from Vegan Essentials – Choco Dream.

On the back of the bottle it said, “may contain dairy.” I emailed

Vegan Essentials and below is the response I got.. Can someone help me

figure out what they are trying to say? I gave my bottle to a non-veg.

 

Here’s the response:

 

Hello,

and thank you for writing us at VeganEssentials.com!

 

As

of 2007, all chocolate that is produced in the USA that conforms with new FDA

guidelines will now say " May contain traces of dairy " on the

labeling " even when 100% vegan if it is produced in the same facility as

any milk products are handled. This allergen warning is now legally

required for companies who may even handle milk products in a different part of

their facility, as the FDA is now putting strict requirements for notification

for those whom even 1 part per million of an airborne particle could cause a

life-threatening reaction. As an all vegan company, we would never sell

anything that intentionally used dairy in the production of an item as we research

all products thoroughly, so we can assure you the product is in fact 100%

dairy-free, but legally, this notice must be put on their product to be sold

legally.

 

As

is shown in the product ingredients, there is no actual dairy in the product,

but as of now, unless you are purchasing either Tropical Source or Plamil

Chocolate (both manufactured outside the USA in completely dairy-free

facilities), all chocolate you will find on the market will have the same

warning on the packaging even when it is 100% vegan. You will

occasionally see some products that do not contain this warning due to a

loophole - if a company purchases the chocolate from another manufacturer and

then re-blends it into their own mix in a dairy-free facility, they somehow do

not require the same warning to be listed, despite the fact that the original

manufacturer of the chocolate would need to list it on their label. This

is the case with the chocolate covered goji berries we sell - they use Dagoba

brand chocolate, which carries the allergen warning to be FDA compliant,

however, as they re-blend the chocolate on their own items, they do not have to

list the warning. A strange scenario, but even if you do not see the

warning, you'll certainly be getting chocolate that is produced under the same

roof as dairy chocolate as in our 10 years in business, we have not found

anyone other than Tropical Source or Plamil who operate their chocolate

manufacturing under 100% dairy-free conditions. Unfortunately, the

extreme costs of opening an entire dairy-free facility are too prohibitive for

almost all chocolate manufacturers (it runs, as we have been told, around

$300,000 just to buy new dedicated non-dairy machinery, and this does not include

housing it in an entirely new facility), so most companies must produce their

products in the same facility as dairy-chocolate, but are careful to sterilize

any shared equipment between production runs if the same machinery is used.

 

I

hope that this information helps - it still is not widely known as the new laws

regarding allergen warnings have only been in effect for the past year, but

unfortunately their wording can be a bit deceptive in making people think that

there is actual dairy added to the product. So long as you do not see any

dairy listed in the ingredients, then you can be certain that the warning is

simply the FDA's required allergen notification and does not reflect that the

product is not vegan. Please let us know if we can assist with anything

else, and we hope you have a wonderful day!

 

Colleen

onse:

[Guest guest]

It's honestly more for the people who keep kosher than anything else, but yes, if it's manufactured on equipment that remotely touched dairy, they are required by law to put that on there.If you go into anaphylactic shock at the mere sight of dairy, the labeling is a CYA manuever.

On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 5:46 PM, CKG <cynthiaandtheothers wrote:

 

 

 

I ordered this product from Vegan Essentials – Choco Dream.

On the back of the bottle it said, "may contain dairy." I emailed

Vegan Essentials and below is the response I got.. Can someone help me

figure out what they are trying to say? I gave my bottle to a non-veg.

 

Here's the response:

 

Hello,

and thank you for writing us at VeganEssentials.com!

 

As

of 2007, all chocolate that is produced in the USA that conforms with new FDA

guidelines will now say " May contain traces of dairy " on the

labeling " even when 100% vegan if it is produced in the same facility as

any milk products are handled. This allergen warning is now legally

required for companies who may even handle milk products in a different part of

their facility, as the FDA is now putting strict requirements for notification

for those whom even 1 part per million of an airborne particle could cause a

life-threatening reaction. As an all vegan company, we would never sell

anything that intentionally used dairy in the production of an item as we research

all products thoroughly, so we can assure you the product is in fact 100%

dairy-free, but legally, this notice must be put on their product to be sold

legally.

 

As

is shown in the product ingredients, there is no actual dairy in the product,

but as of now, unless you are purchasing either Tropical Source or Plamil

Chocolate (both manufactured outside the USA in completely dairy-free

facilities), all chocolate you will find on the market will have the same

warning on the packaging even when it is 100% vegan. You will

occasionally see some products that do not contain this warning due to a

loophole - if a company purchases the chocolate from another manufacturer and

then re-blends it into their own mix in a dairy-free facility, they somehow do

not require the same warning to be listed, despite the fact that the original

manufacturer of the chocolate would need to list it on their label. This

is the case with the chocolate covered goji berries we sell - they use Dagoba

brand chocolate, which carries the allergen warning to be FDA compliant,

however, as they re-blend the chocolate on their own items, they do not have to

list the warning. A strange scenario, but even if you do not see the

warning, you'll certainly be getting chocolate that is produced under the same

roof as dairy chocolate as in our 10 years in business, we have not found

anyone other than Tropical Source or Plamil who operate their chocolate

manufacturing under 100% dairy-free conditions. Unfortunately, the

extreme costs of opening an entire dairy-free facility are too prohibitive for

almost all chocolate manufacturers (it runs, as we have been told, around

$300,000 just to buy new dedicated non-dairy machinery, and this does not include

housing it in an entirely new facility), so most companies must produce their

products in the same facility as dairy-chocolate, but are careful to sterilize

any shared equipment between production runs if the same machinery is used.

 

I

hope that this information helps - it still is not widely known as the new laws

regarding allergen warnings have only been in effect for the past year, but

unfortunately their wording can be a bit deceptive in making people think that

there is actual dairy added to the product. So long as you do not see any

dairy listed in the ingredients, then you can be certain that the warning is

simply the FDA's required allergen notification and does not reflect that the

product is not vegan. Please let us know if we can assist with anything

else, and we hope you have a wonderful day!

 

Colleen

onse:

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

if you read things before, it often said "processed on equipment that uses dairy", or "eggs", or "soy", or wotever

no more. guidelines now state that labels have t o state "may contain" whatever, if said product was processed on those machines.

few companies only make 100% vegan products. fewer still are the ones that make 100% of their own vegan products on their own machines. the machines would be used to process say, peanuts, as well as brazil nuts, or wotever, so before you'd have to say "processed on machines using that use peanuts". now they ahve to say "may contain peanuts"

so, even if nothing changed with your chocolate bar, it is still made on machinery that has been used to process dairy, so even if its been cleaned (as they have to by law), it must now say "may contain dairy"

i saw my first one today as well

cheers

 

CKG Dec 16, 2008 2:46 PM Dairy

 

 

 

 

I ordered this product from Vegan Essentials – Choco Dream. On the back of the bottle it said, “may contain dairy.†I emailed Vegan Essentials and below is the response I got.. Can someone help me figure out what they are trying to say? I gave my bottle to a non-veg.

 

Here’s the response:

 

Hello, and thank you for writing us at VeganEssentials.com!

 

As of 2007, all chocolate that is produced in the USA that conforms with new FDA guidelines will now say "May contain traces of dairy" on the labeling" even when 100% vegan if it is produced in the same facility as any milk products are handled. This allergen warning is now legally required for companies who may even handle milk products in a different part of their facility, as the FDA is now putting strict requirements for notification for those whom even 1 part per million of an airborne particle could cause a life-threatening reaction. As an all vegan company, we would never sell anything that intentionally used dairy in the production of an item as we research all products thoroughly, so we can assure you the product is in fact 100% dairy-free, but legally, this notice must be put on their product to be sold legally.

 

As is shown in the product ingredients, there is no actual dairy in the product, but as of now, unless you are purchasing either Tropical Source or Plamil Chocolate (both manufactured outside the USA in completely dairy-free facilities), all chocolate you will find on the market will have the same warning on the packaging even when it is 100% vegan. You will occasionally see some products that do not contain this warning due to a loophole - if a company purchases the chocolate from another manufacturer and then re-blends it into their own mix in a dairy-free facility, they somehow do not require the same warning to be listed, despite the fact that the original manufacturer of the chocolate would need to list it on their label. This is the case with the chocolate covered goji berries we sell - they use Dagoba brand chocolate, which carries the allergen warning to be FDA compliant, however, as they re-blend the chocolate on their own items, they do not have to list the warning. A strange scenario, but even if you do not see the warning, you'll certainly be getting chocolate that is produced under the same roof as dairy chocolate as in our 10 years in business, we have not found anyone other than Tropical Source or Plamil who operate their chocolate manufacturing under 100% dairy-free conditions. Unfortunately, the extreme costs of opening an entire dairy-free facility are too prohibitive for almost all chocolate manufacturers (it runs, as we have been told, around $300,000 just to buy new dedicated non-dairy machinery, and this does not include housing it in an entirely new facility), so most companies must produce their products in the same facility as dairy-chocolate, but are careful to sterilize any shared equipment between production runs if the same machinery is used.

 

I hope that this information helps - it still is not widely known as the new laws regarding allergen warnings have only been in effect for the past year, but unfortunately their wording can be a bit deceptive in making people think that there is actual dairy added to the product. So long as you do not see any dairy listed in the ingredients, then you can be certain that the warning is simply the FDA's required allergen notification and does not reflect that the product is not vegan. Please let us know if we can assist with anything else, and we hope you have a wonderful day!

 

Colleen

onse:

 

 

 

 

 

"Will we ever get to the point that we realize that we will be more secure when the rest of the world isn't living in poverty just so we can have nice running shoes?"

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info, to Fraggle and the rest who helped me out

with this.  Cyn

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of fraggle

Tuesday, December 16, 2008 7:25 PM

 

Re: Dairy

 

 

 

 

 

 

if you read things before, it often said " processed on equipment that

uses dairy " , or " eggs " , or " soy " , or wotever

no more. guidelines now state that labels have t o state " may

contain " whatever, if said product was processed on those machines.

few companies only make 100% vegan products. fewer still are the ones that

make 100% of their own vegan products on their own machines. the machines would

be used to process say, peanuts, as well as brazil nuts, or wotever, so before

you'd have to say " processed on machines using that use

peanuts " . now they ahve to say " may contain peanuts "

so, even if nothing changed with your chocolate bar, it is still made on

machinery that has been used to process dairy, so even if its been cleahanned (as they have to by law), it must now say

" may contain dairy "

i saw my first one today as well

cheers

 

 

 

 

 

 

CKG

Dec 16, 2008 2:46 PM

Dairy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I ordered this product from Vegan Essentials – Choco

Dream. On the back of the bottle it said, “may contain dairy.†I

emailed Vegan Essentials and below is the response I got.. Can someone

help me figure out what they are trying to say? I gave my bottle to a

non-veg.

Here’s the response:

Hello,

and thank you for writing us at VeganEssentials.com!

As

of 2007, all chocolate that is produced in the USA that conforms with new FDA

guidelines will now say " May contain traces of dairy " on the

labeling " even when 100% vegan if it is produced in the same facility as

any milk products are handled. This allergen warning is now legally

required for companies who may even handle milk products in a different part of

their facility, as the FDA is now putting strict requirements for notification

for those whom even 1 part per million of an airborne particle could cause a

life-threatening reaction. As an all vegan company, we would never sell

anything that intentionally used dairy in the production of an item as we

research all products thoroughly, so we can assure you the product is in fact

100% dairy-free, but legally, this notice must be put on their product to be

sold legally.

As

is shown in the product ingredients, there is no actual dairy in the product,

but as of now, unless you are purchasing either Tropical Source or Plamil

Chocolate (both manufactured outside the USA in completely dairy-free

facilities), all chocolate you will find on the market will have the same

warning on the packaging even when it is 100% vegan. You will

occasionally see some products that do not contain this warning due to a

loophole - if a company purchases the chocolate from another manufacturer and

then re-blends it into their own mix in a dairy-free facility, they somehow do

not require the same warning to be listed, despite the fact that the original

manufacturer of the chocolate would need to list it on their label. This

is the case with the chocolate covered goji berries we sell - they use Dagoba

brand chocolate, which carries the allergen warning to be FDA compliant,

however, as they re-blend the chocolate on their own items, they do not have to

list the warning. A strange scenario, but even if you do not see the

warning, you'll certainly be getting chocolate that is produced under the same

roof as dairy chocolate as in our 10 years in business, we have not found

anyone other than Tropical Source or Plamil who operate their chocolate

manufacturing under 100% dairy-free conditions. Unfortunately, the

extreme costs of opening an entire dairy-free facility are too prohibitive for

almost all chocolate manufacturers (it runs, as we have been told, around

$300,000 just to buy new dedicated non-dairy machinery, and this does not

include housing it in an entirely new facility), so most companies must produce

their products in the same facility as dairy-chocolate, but are careful to

sterilize any shared equipment between production runs if the same machinery is

used.

I

hope that this information helps - it still is not widely known as the new laws

regarding allergen warnings have only been in effect for the past year, but

unfortunately their wording can be a bit deceptive in making people think that

there is actual dairy added to the product. So long as you do not see any

dairy listed in the ingredients, then you can be certain that the warning is

simply the FDA's required allergen notification and does not reflect that the

product is not vegan. Please let us know if we can assist with anything

else, and we hope you have a wonderful day!

Colleen

onse:

 

 

 

 

 

" Will we ever get to the point that we realize that we will be more secure when the rest of the world isn't living in poverty just  so we can have nice running shoes? "

[Guest guest]

glad to help

CKG Dec 17, 2008 3:01 PM RE: Dairy

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for the info, to Fraggle and the rest who helped me out with this. Cyn

 

 

 

On Behalf Of fraggleTuesday, December 16, 2008 7:25 PM Subject: Re: Dairy

 

 

 

 

if you read things before, it often said "processed on equipment that uses dairy", or "eggs", or "soy", or wotever

no more. guidelines now state that labels have t o state "may contain" whatever, if said product was processed on those machines.

few companies only make 100% vegan products. fewer still are the ones that make 100% of their own vegan products on their own machines. the machines would be used to process say, peanuts, as well as brazil nuts, or wotever, so before you'd have to say "processed on machines using that use peanuts". now they ahve to say "may contain peanuts"

so, even if nothing changed with your chocolate bar, it is still made on machinery that has been used to process dairy, so even if its been cleahanned (as they have to by law), it must now say "may contain dairy"

i saw my first one today as well

cheers

 

 

CKG Dec 16, 2008 2:46 PM Dairy

 

 

 

 

 

I ordered this product from Vegan Essentials – Choco Dream. On the back of the bottle it said, “may contain dairy.†I emailed Vegan Essentials and below is the response I got.. Can someone help me figure out what they are trying to say? I gave my bottle to a non-veg.

Here’s the response:

Hello, and thank you for writing us at VeganEssentials.com!

As of 2007, all chocolate that is produced in the USA that conforms with new FDA guidelines will now say "May contain traces of dairy" on the labeling" even when 100% vegan if it is produced in the same facility as any milk products are handled. This allergen warning is now legally required for companies who may even handle milk products in a different part of their facility, as the FDA is now putting strict requirements for notification for those whom even 1 part per million of an airborne particle could cause a life-threatening reaction. As an all vegan company, we would never sell anything that intentionally used dairy in the production of an item as we research all products thoroughly, so we can assure you the product is in fact 100% dairy-free, but legally, this notice must be put on their product to be sold legally.

As is shown in the product ingredients, there is no actual dairy in the product, but as of now, unless you are purchasing either Tropical Source or Plamil Chocolate (both manufactured outside the USA in completely dairy-free facilities), all chocolate you will find on the market will have the same warning on the packaging even when it is 100% vegan. You will occasionally see some products that do not contain this warning due to a loophole - if a company purchases the chocolate from another manufacturer and then re-blends it into their own mix in a dairy-free facility, they somehow do not require the same warning to be listed, despite the fact that the original manufacturer of the chocolate would need to list it on their label. This is the case with the chocolate covered goji berries we sell - they use Dagoba brand chocolate, which carries the allergen warning to be FDA compliant, however, as they re-blend the chocolate on their own items, they do not have to list the warning. A strange scenario, but even if you do not see the warning, you'll certainly be getting chocolate that is produced under the same roof as dairy chocolate as in our 10 years in business, we have not found anyone other than Tropical Source or Plamil who operate their chocolate manufacturing under 100% dairy-free conditions. Unfortunately, the extreme costs of opening an entire dairy-free facility are too prohibitive for almost all chocolate manufacturers (it runs, as we have been told, around $300,000 just to buy new dedicated non-dairy machinery, and this does not include housing it in an entirely new facility), so most companies must produce their products in the same facility as dairy-chocolate, but are careful to sterilize any shared equipment between production runs if the same machinery is used.

I hope that this information helps - it still is not widely known as the new laws regarding allergen warnings have only been in effect for the past year, but unfortunately their wording can be a bit deceptive in making people think that there is actual dairy added to the product. So long as you do not see any dairy listed in the ingredients, then you can be certain that the warning is simply the FDA's required allergen notification and does not reflect that the product is not vegan. Please let us know if we can assist with anything else, and we hope you have a wonderful day!

Colleen

onse: "Will we ever get to the point that we realize that we will be more secure when the rest of the world isn't living in poverty just so we can have nice running shoes?"

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Will we ever get to the point that we realize that we will be more secure when the rest of the world isn't living in poverty just so we can have nice running shoes?"