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I'll have to try the comfrey tea. I usually make a nettle tea, mainly because

we have patches of nettles in odd corners. I leave it for about a week - it

smells aweful, but does seem to make a good fertiliser.

 

Jo

 

, yarrow wrote:

>

> I make tea for plants, not for me, with the comfrey. The new leaves,

> especially, contain pyrrolizidine alkaloids. One of my plants had 70

> or so flowering stems, so I remove them after they've flowered, put

> them in a bucket, fill with water, cover, and let it all ferment for

> a week.

>

> Last year was the first time I grew some tomatoes from seed. I used

> wintersowing -- instead of fluorescent lights indoors, I put the pots

> in little " greenhouses " made from plastic punnets. But I still bought

> most of my seedlings. (The wintersowing website gives all the details

> about the method and also offers free seeds.)

>

> I haven't used peat pots, but have heard that some people have

> trouble keeping them moist enough. Last year I used my own sifted

> compost, which worked ok for some seeds, but got too many weeds.

> Tomato seeds from the compost germinated better than some of the ones

> I'd planted. This year I bought potting soil to start the seeds.

>

> I've used larger sheets of bubble wrap (attached with clothespins) to

> protect tomato seedlings once they outgrow the walls-o-water (water

> tubes that surround the plant). We get a strong afternoon wind here,

> so even when it doesn't get below freezing, the wind chill can harm

> the plants until about the end of April, even if they look big and

> strong. For the bubblewrap greenhouse, I put my flats of seedpots in

> a tomato cage laid horizontally (like a small hoop house), and

> attached bubble wrap over the top and ends of the cage. Once the

> seeds are up, I'll have to get over to the garden every day to make

> sure the plants get some air. I guess it would take a lot less time

> to just buy seedlings, but I wouldn't be able to find most of these.

> I love having orange, black, green, purple, yellow, and red tomatoes

> in different sizes!

>

>

>

> At 8:06 PM -0700 3/16/09, arborhall wrote:

> I didn't have any luck with blueberries either, and oddly they

> normally grow quite well here. I bought 4 and one survived, which I

> transplanted into a pot and put on the deck. It's been alive for

> years, never gets taller than 8 " and produces about 4 berries a year.

> Not what I had in mind. It wasn't suppose to be a dwarf patio

> variety! Maybe I should sell it as a " bonsai. " : )

>

> My fennel is a bronze variety as well, and it's struggling. I put it

> under cover during the winter, in the barn. I think I might have

> taken it out too soon, we were fooled by a few nice weeks and now

> it's back to icy cold wind and rain. I've never grown comfrey for

> tea, it is easy to prepare for tea? I also saved tomato seeds, but

> I'm not sure if I will try to grown them or just buy the already

> established ones. There is a local farm market a mile from here and

> they always have inexpensive heirloom ones in. Last year I got a

> purple / black skinned variety there, it was very interesting.

>

> That's an ambitious garden you are planning. I need to probably hire

> someone with a tiller since my raised beds are too small for all that

> I'd like to try growing.

>

> I forgot I have some lavender too. I had two ornamental Spanish and

> one French. I really like the looks of the Spanish variety, I have

> one called Willowlake, and off the top of my head I can't remember

> the white one's name, I think it's called Madrid.

> Blackberries (the wild native and non native) are weeds in this area.

> We have some thorned ones that take over the property line on one

> side. Every summer I make the most decadent blackberry cobblers. I

> just wish they didn't have those thorns!

>

> What do you think of those little peat pots that come in a container

> with a plastic lid (I think there is one with 36 little peat discs in

> it for $6 at the store). I was thinking of buying that to attempt to

> start my own seeds. Do those work? If not, how do you use bubble

> wrap? I certainly have enough of that around.

>

> Thanks! You are sure making me wish it was summer already (my

> favorite time of year). Currently my narcissus are blooming and the

> grape hyacinth think it's spring. Some of the daffodils are also up!

>

> Ann

>

>

>

> <yarrowyarrow

> Monday, March 16, 2009 7:09 PM

>

> herbs, was Re:noobie

>

> I love growing herbs too! I'm in the SF Bay Area, and everything

> stays outside. The only ones that mind the cold are the lemongrass

> (it's been under a cloche, and I hope the green I saw there the other

> day is lemongrass, not weeds), some of the rose/scented geraniums,

> and some aloes.

>

> The oregano is almost ready to harvest. I cut it back last spring

> just before it bloomed, and it stayed a more manageable size. Sadly,

> I didn't use the dried oregano because I had fresh. In the past week

> I've picked celery, russian kale, mache, and kohlrabi. I also have

> garlic chives, scallions, thymes, lavender, marjoram, mints, lemon

> balm, plantain, borage, and bronze fennel (grows like a weed here). I

> grew dill from seed one year -- very easy. I grow comfrey so that I

> can make tea for my plants. And this winter I've had a great crop of

> stinging nettles.

>

> This week I finally planted my tomato and pepper seeds -- 42

> varieties of tomato and 6 pepper -- and built a bubblewrap greenhouse

> around them. Most of the peppers are hot and ornamental, so I can

> tuck them in among the echinaceas or put them in gallon pots. I have

> room for (at most) 20 tomato plants, so I hope to give a lot away --

> I planted that many partly to test germination of the seeds I saved.

> Later in the season I'll plant cucumbers, squash, beans, and maybe

> carrots. Oh, and I planted walla walla (sweet) onions and garlic a

> few months ago, and I have some huge (8 ft.) perennial kales,

> artichokes, and lots of flowers.

>

> I planted a thornless blackberry 2 years ago. Last summer was the

> first crop -- lots of berries, once I covered it with netting to keep

> the birds from pooping on and tasting the berries. I still need to

> build a better trellis. I planted a couple of year-old blueberries

> last year, but they didn't survive. I also have raspberries,

> strawberries, and red currants. Since it's a community garden, I

> can't plant any fruit trees.

>

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I had my first big crop of nettles this winter, so I've made nettle

tea (to drink) as well as lovely green nettle muffins, and put the

leftovers into a bucket (with alfalfa and cornmeal) to ferment and

then feed the plants.

 

 

At 7:53 AM +0000 3/17/09, heartwerk wrote:

>I'll have to try the comfrey tea. I usually make a nettle tea,

>mainly because we have patches of nettles in odd corners. I leave

>it for about a week - it smells aweful, but does seem to make a good

>fertiliser.

>

>Jo

>

> , yarrow wrote:

>>

>> I make tea for plants, not for me, with the comfrey. The new leaves,

>> especially, contain pyrrolizidine alkaloids. One of my plants had 70

>> or so flowering stems, so I remove them after they've flowered, put

>> them in a bucket, fill with water, cover, and let it all ferment for

>> a week.

>>

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Could you post your recipe for nettle muffins please :-)

 

Jo

 

 

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Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:58 AM

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I had my first big crop of nettles this winter, so I've made nettle tea (to drink) as well as lovely green nettle muffins, and put the leftovers into a bucket (with alfalfa and cornmeal) to ferment and then feed the plants.At 7:53 AM +0000 3/17/09, heartwerk wrote:>I'll have to try the comfrey tea. I usually make a nettle tea, >mainly because we have patches of nettles in odd corners. I leave >it for about a week - it smells aweful, but does seem to make a good >fertiliser.>>Jo>> , yarrow wrote:>>>> I make tea for plants, not for me, with the comfrey. The new leaves,>> especially, contain pyrrolizidine alkaloids. One of my plants had 70>> or so flowering stems, so I remove them after they've flowered, put>> them in a bucket, fill with water, cover, and let it all ferment for>> a week.>>

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How do you handle the stinging nettle without being stung? I didn't know what this was until one day we were geo-caching and I got stung by it and thought well I guess that's stinging nettle! : )Ann

 

 

 

jo.heartwork

Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:57 AM

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Could you post your recipe for nettle muffins please :-)

 

Jo

 

 

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yarrow

Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:58 AM

Re: herbs, was Re:noobie

 

 

I had my first big crop of nettles this winter, so I've made nettle tea (to drink) as well as lovely green nettle muffins, and put the leftovers into a bucket (with alfalfa and cornmeal) to ferment and then feed the plants.At 7:53 AM +0000 3/17/09, heartwerk wrote:>I'll have to try the comfrey tea. I usually make a nettle tea, >mainly because we have patches of nettles in odd corners. I leave >it for about a week - it smells aweful, but does seem to make a good >fertiliser.>>Jo>> , yarrow wrote:>>>> I make tea for plants, not for me, with the comfrey. The new leaves,>> especially, contain pyrrolizidine alkaloids. One of my plants had 70>> or so flowering stems, so I remove them after they've flowered, put>> them in a bucket, fill with water, cover, and let it all ferment for>> a week.>>

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I pick it with gloves. I've taken gloves off to wash it and strip

the leaves from the stems, and it's not too hard to avoid getting

" stung " -- takes a light touch and a little tolerance for

very mild stings. I've also worn my gardening gloves to prepare it.

Needless to say, it needs to be cooked before being eaten!

 

At 8:05 PM -0700 3/17/09, Ann Hall wrote:

How do you handle the stinging nettle without being stung? I

didn't know what this was until one day we were geo-caching and I got

stung by it and thought well I guess that's stinging nettle! : )

Ann

 

jo.heartwork

Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:57 AM

 

Re: herbs, was Re:noobie

 

Could you post your recipe for nettle muffins please :-)

 

Jo

 

 

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yarrow

 

Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:58 AM

Re: herbs, was Re:noobie

 

I had my first big crop of nettles this winter, so I've made

nettle

tea (to drink) as well as lovely green nettle muffins, and put the

leftovers into a bucket (with alfalfa and cornmeal) to ferment and

then feed the plants.

 

At 7:53 AM +0000 3/17/09, heartwerk wrote:

>I'll have to try the comfrey tea. I usually make a nettle tea,

>mainly because we have patches of nettles in odd corners. I

leave

>it for about a week - it smells aweful, but does seem to make a

good

>fertiliser.

>

>Jo

>

> , yarrow wrote:

>>

>> I make tea for plants, not for me, with the comfrey. The new

leaves,

>> especially, contain pyrrolizidine alkaloids. One of my plants

had 70

>> or so flowering stems, so I remove them after they've

flowered, put

>> them in a bucket, fill with water, cover, and let it all

ferment for

>> a week.

>>

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