Guest guest Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 I miss cheese the most in mexican foods. Luckily, I discovered roasted acorn squash provides that creamy texture and packs a lot more flavor than cheese ever did!!!Sent via BlackBerry by AT&TSandy Mathiesen Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:59:54 -0700 (PDT) Introduction ! Hi - Thanks for letting me join your group! I'm a new Vegan - as of Feb. 1st - so I hope to learn from you all. I've been mostly vegetarian (i.e.Turkey at Thxgiving and Xmas and fish once in a blue moon) for years and years. My chol. has been slightly high and I am following the McDougall plan. All I really have given up is those rare holiday meals, non-fat milk, and maybe 2 to 3 oz of cheese per week. OH - and my olive oil (all oils,at least for now). I've been trying lots of new recipes and enjoying them all - haven't met a vegetable I don't like! I'm reading "Vegan The New Ethics of Eating" by Erik Marcus and am feeling that this way of life/eating fits my values and will be with me for life. My chol. has gone down from 230 to 189 in 6 weeks. Go figure. I haven't really changed much - but did add some recommended supplements (McDougall recommended). I will say that I am missing cheese. I crave a slice of cheese pizza! I tried some vegetarian cheese, some soy cheese and BLECH. won't be eating those again! I also am struggling a bit when invited to someone's house for dinner - but have handled it creatively so far. :-) Those really feel like my only 2 "challenges" thus far. Let's see - I'm a volunteer for a Golden Retriever rescue group, our local humane society, our Wildlife care (we had 7 bear cubs this past year!), and my dog Henry (a Beagle/Border Collie mix) and I visit our local nursing home. So it's about time I shifted my way of living to fit with my values and love of animals. I live between S. Lake Tahoe and Santa Cruz, CA - right now mostly in Tahoe - but soon to shift to Santa Cruz - an area abundant with Vegans! Hope this wasn't too long ! Look forward to "meeting" you. sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Hi, Sandy! Welcome to the group! Yes vegan cheese sucks all by itself. But, if grated and melted it works pretty good in Mexican food and stuff. Congrats on the bears cubs! Spent all day plottong the garden and putting up fence. Supposed to snow tomorrow. Bill- in Utah , Sandy Mathiesen <smathiesen wrote: > > Hi - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Sandy, Have you tried pizza without the cheese? Amy's makes one with roasted vegetables, or (if you're so inclined) you can make your own. I had one of Amy's the other day and liked it -- as with most foods, I think it's the seasonings that make it taste right. I've not eaten cheese for a couple decades, and I didn't really like the idea of eating a chunk-o-fat, so I never missed it. But I've known people who liked some of the " cheez " recipes in Jo Stepaniak's Ultimate Uncheese Cookbook. http://www.vegsource.com/jo/books/ultimate.htm http://www.vegsource.com/articles2/balogh_ultimate_uncheese.htm We got a 3-year-old golden a couple years ago who's such a sweetie! I loved our dobermans, but they're gone and irreplaceable, and it is fun to experience this different way of being a dog. At 2:59 PM -0700 3/19/09, Sandy Mathiesen wrote: Hi - Thanks for letting me join your group! I'm a new Vegan - as of Feb. 1st - so I hope to learn from you all. I've been mostly vegetarian (i.e.Turkey at Thxgiving and Xmas and fish once in a blue moon) for years and years. My chol. has been slightly high and I am following the McDougall plan. All I really have given up is those rare holiday meals, non-fat milk, and maybe 2 to 3 oz of cheese per week. OH - and my olive oil (all oils,at least for now). I've been trying lots of new recipes and enjoying them all - haven't met a vegetable I don't like! I'm reading " Vegan The New Ethics of Eating " by Erik Marcus and am feeling that this way of life/eating fits my values and will be with me for life. My chol. has gone down from 230 to 189 in 6 weeks. Go figure. I haven't really changed much - but did add some recommended supplements (McDougall recommended). I will say that I am missing cheese. I crave a slice of cheese pizza! I tried some vegetarian cheese, some soy cheese and BLECH. won't be eating those again! I also am struggling a bit when invited to someone's house for dinner - but have handled it creatively so far. :-) Those really feel like my only 2 " challenges " thus far. Let's see - I'm a volunteer for a Golden Retriever rescue group, our local humane society, our Wildlife care (we had 7 bear cubs this past year!), and my dog Henry (a Beagle/Border Collie mix) and I visit our local nursing home. So it's about time I shifted my way of living to fit with my values and love of animals. I live between S. Lake Tahoe and Santa Cruz, CA - right now mostly in Tahoe - but soon to shift to Santa Cruz - an area abundant with Vegans! Hope this wasn't too long ! Look forward to " meeting " you. sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 HI Sandy Welcome. Your cholesterol should go down well if you give up dairy and meat. I think you could use oils though, particularly virgin olive oil. Lots of new vegans do miss cheese, but I think you lose your taste for it after a while. I never crave cheese now. Some of the soy cheeses can be okay to use for cooking. I think it's just a matter of trying them out. Eating out is usually okay once all your friends and family know what you don't eat. Just opting for the vegetables is still unsure as so many people cook them with animal fats or put butter on them - so best to check that too. Good luck. , Sandy Mathiesen <smathiesen wrote: > > Hi - > Thanks for letting me join your group! I'm a new Vegan - as of Feb. 1st - so I hope to learn from you all. I've been mostly vegetarian (i.e.Turkey at Thxgiving and Xmas and fish once in a blue moon) for years and years. > > My chol. has been slightly high and I am following the McDougall plan. All I really have given up is those rare holiday meals, non-fat milk, and maybe 2 to 3 oz of cheese per week. OH - and my olive oil (all oils,at least for now). > > I've been trying lots of new recipes and enjoying them all - haven't met a vegetable I don't like! I'm reading " Vegan The New Ethics of Eating " by Erik Marcus and am feeling that this way of life/eating fits my values and will be with me for life. > > My chol. has gone down from 230 to 189 in 6 weeks. Go figure. I haven't really changed much - but did add some recommended supplements (McDougall recommended). > > I will say that I am missing cheese. I crave a slice of cheese pizza! I tried some vegetarian cheese, some soy cheese and BLECH. won't be eating those again! I also am struggling a bit when invited to someone's house for dinner - but have handled it creatively so far. :-) Those really feel like my only 2 " challenges " thus far. > > Let's see - I'm a volunteer for a Golden Retriever rescue group, our local humane society, our Wildlife care (we had 7 bear cubs this past year!), and my dog Henry (a Beagle/Border Collie mix) and I visit our local nursing home. So it's about time I shifted my way of living to fit with my values and love of animals. > > I live between S. Lake Tahoe and Santa Cruz, CA - right now mostly in Tahoe - but soon to shift to Santa Cruz - an area abundant with Vegans! > > Hope this wasn't too long ! Look forward to " meeting " you. > > sandy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Cheeseless pizzas are very good. In the UK Dominoes bases are vegan and you can have any them without cheese. I believe also Pizza Express is okay. Many restaurants will also make a cheeseless pizza. Jo , yarrow wrote: > > Sandy, > Have you tried pizza without the cheese? Amy's makes one with roasted > vegetables, or (if you're so inclined) you can make your own. I had > one of Amy's the other day and liked it -- as with most foods, I > think it's the seasonings that make it taste right. I've not eaten > cheese for a couple decades, and I didn't really like the idea of > eating a chunk-o-fat, so I never missed it. But I've known people who > liked some of the " cheez " recipes in Jo Stepaniak's Ultimate Uncheese > Cookbook. > http://www.vegsource.com/jo/books/ultimate.htm > http://www.vegsource.com/articles2/balogh_ultimate_uncheese.htm > > We got a 3-year-old golden a couple years ago who's such a sweetie! I > loved our dobermans, but they're gone and irreplaceable, and it is > fun to experience this different way of being a dog. > > > > At 2:59 PM -0700 3/19/09, Sandy Mathiesen wrote: > Hi - > Thanks for letting me join your group! I'm a new Vegan - as of Feb. > 1st - so I hope to learn from you all. I've been mostly vegetarian > (i.e.Turkey at Thxgiving and Xmas and fish once in a blue moon) for > years and years. > > My chol. has been slightly high and I am following the McDougall > plan. All I really have given up is those rare holiday meals, > non-fat milk, and maybe 2 to 3 oz of cheese per week. OH - and my > olive oil (all oils,at least for now). > > I've been trying lots of new recipes and enjoying them all - haven't > met a vegetable I don't like! I'm reading " Vegan The New Ethics of > Eating " by Erik Marcus and am feeling that this way of life/eating > fits my values and will be with me for life. > > My chol. has gone down from 230 to 189 in 6 weeks. Go figure. I > haven't really changed much - but did add some recommended > supplements (McDougall recommended). > > I will say that I am missing cheese. I crave a slice of cheese > pizza! I tried some vegetarian cheese, some soy cheese and BLECH. > won't be eating those again! I also am struggling a bit when > invited to someone's house for dinner - but have handled it > creatively so far. :-) Those really feel like my only 2 > " challenges " thus far. > > Let's see - I'm a volunteer for a Golden Retriever rescue group, our > local humane society, our Wildlife care (we had 7 bear cubs this past > year!), and my dog Henry (a Beagle/Border Collie mix) and I visit our > local nursing home. So it's about time I shifted my way of living > to fit with my values and love of animals. > > I live between S. Lake Tahoe and Santa Cruz, CA - right now mostly in > Tahoe - but soon to shift to Santa Cruz - an area abundant with > Vegans! > > Hope this wasn't too long ! Look forward to " meeting " you. > > sandy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 That's interesting, and well worth trying - thanks. , 4lilpups wrote: > > I miss cheese the most in mexican foods. Luckily, I discovered roasted acorn squash provides that creamy texture and packs a lot more flavor than cheese ever did!!! > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T > > > Sandy Mathiesen <smathiesen > > Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:59:54 > > Introduction ! > > > Hi - > Thanks for letting me join your group! I'm a new Vegan - as of Feb. 1st - so I hope to learn from you all. I've been mostly vegetarian (i.e.Turkey at Thxgiving and Xmas and fish once in a blue moon) for years and years. > > My chol. has been slightly high and I am following the McDougall plan. All I really have given up is those rare holiday meals, non-fat milk, and maybe 2 to 3 oz of cheese per week. OH - and my olive oil (all oils,at least for now). > > I've been trying lots of new recipes and enjoying them all - haven't met a vegetable I don't like! I'm reading " Vegan The New Ethics of Eating " by Erik Marcus and am feeling that this way of life/eating fits my values and will be with me for life. > > My chol. has gone down from 230 to 189 in 6 weeks. Go figure. I haven't really changed much - but did add some recommended supplements (McDougall recommended). > > I will say that I am missing cheese. I crave a slice of cheese pizza! I tried some vegetarian cheese, some soy cheese and BLECH. won't be eating those again! I also am struggling a bit when invited to someone's house for dinner - but have handled it creatively so far. :-) Those really feel like my only 2 " challenges " thus far. > > Let's see - I'm a volunteer for a Golden Retriever rescue group, our local humane society, our Wildlife care (we had 7 bear cubs this past year!), and my dog Henry (a Beagle/Border Collie mix) and I visit our local nursing home. So it's about time I shifted my way of living to fit with my values and love of animals. > > I live between S. Lake Tahoe and Santa Cruz, CA - right now mostly in Tahoe - but soon to shift to Santa Cruz - an area abundant with Vegans! > > Hope this wasn't too long ! Look forward to " meeting " you. > > sandy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Sandy, i've had a cheeseless pizza in Italy with very thinly sliced potatoes on top. similar consistency to cheese. very tasty. i'm going to make some soon and i'll let you know how it goes. I don't like pizzas without some form of soy cheeze or anything. This might be a good alternative for you to try. As someone else stated, Amy's makes a good vegan soy cheese pizza.--- On Mon, 3/23/09, heartwerk <jo.heartwork wrote:heartwerk <jo.heartwork Re: Introduction ! Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 2:55 AM Cheeseless pizzas are very good. In the UK Dominoes bases are vegan and you can have any them without cheese. I believe also Pizza Express is okay. Many restaurants will also make a cheeseless pizza. Jo @gro ups.com, yarrow wrote: > > Sandy, > Have you tried pizza without the cheese? Amy's makes one with roasted > vegetables, or (if you're so inclined) you can make your own. I had > one of Amy's the other day and liked it -- as with most foods, I > think it's the seasonings that make it taste right. I've not eaten > cheese for a couple decades, and I didn't really like the idea of > eating a chunk-o-fat, so I never missed it. But I've known people who > liked some of the "cheez" recipes in Jo Stepaniak's Ultimate Uncheese > Cookbook. > http://www.vegsourc e.com/jo/ books/ultimate. htm > http://www.vegsourc e.com/articles2/ balogh_ultimate_ uncheese. htm > > We got a 3-year-old golden a couple years ago who's such a sweetie! I > loved our dobermans, but they're gone and irreplaceable, and it is > fun to experience this different way of being a dog. > > > > At 2:59 PM -0700 3/19/09, Sandy Mathiesen wrote: > Hi - > Thanks for letting me join your group! I'm a new Vegan - as of Feb. > 1st - so I hope to learn from you all. I've been mostly vegetarian > (i.e.Turkey at Thxgiving and Xmas and fish once in a blue moon) for > years and years. > > My chol. has been slightly high and I am following the McDougall > plan. All I really have given up is those rare holiday meals, > non-fat milk, and maybe 2 to 3 oz of cheese per week. OH - and my > olive oil (all oils,at least for now). > > I've been trying lots of new recipes and enjoying them all - haven't > met a vegetable I don't like! I'm reading "Vegan The New Ethics of > Eating" by Erik Marcus and am feeling that this way of life/eating > fits my values and will be with me for life. > > My chol. has gone down from 230 to 189 in 6 weeks. Go figure. I > haven't really changed much - but did add some recommended > supplements (McDougall recommended) . > > I will say that I am missing cheese. I crave a slice of cheese > pizza! I tried some vegetarian cheese, some soy cheese and BLECH. > won't be eating those again! I also am struggling a bit when > invited to someone's house for dinner - but have handled it > creatively so far. :-) Those really feel like my only 2 > "challenges" thus far. > > Let's see - I'm a volunteer for a Golden Retriever rescue group, our > local humane society, our Wildlife care (we had 7 bear cubs this past > year!), and my dog Henry (a Beagle/Border Collie mix) and I visit our > local nursing home. So it's about time I shifted my way of living > to fit with my values and love of animals. > > I live between S. Lake Tahoe and Santa Cruz, CA - right now mostly in > Tahoe - but soon to shift to Santa Cruz - an area abundant with > Vegans! > > Hope this wasn't too long ! Look forward to "meeting" you. > > sandy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 , Sandy Mathiesen <smathiesen wrote: > > Hi - > Thanks for letting me join your group! I'm a new Vegan - as of Feb. 1st - so I hope to learn from you all. I've been mostly vegetarian (i.e.Turkey at Thxgiving and Xmas and fish once in a blue moon) for years and years. > > My chol. has been slightly high and I am following the McDougall plan. All I really have given up is those rare holiday meals, non-fat milk, and maybe 2 to 3 oz of cheese per week. OH - and my olive oil (all oils,at least for now). > > I've been trying lots of new recipes and enjoying them all - haven't met a vegetable I don't like! I'm reading " Vegan The New Ethics of Eating " by Erik Marcus and am feeling that this way of life/eating fits my values and will be with me for life. > > My chol. has gone down from 230 to 189 in 6 weeks. Go figure. I haven't really changed much - but did add some recommended supplements (McDougall recommended). > > I will say that I am missing cheese. I crave a slice of cheese pizza! I tried some vegetarian cheese, some soy cheese and BLECH. won't be eating those again! I also am struggling a bit when invited to someone's house for dinner - but have handled it creatively so far. :-) Those really feel like my only 2 " challenges " thus far. > > Let's see - I'm a volunteer for a Golden Retriever rescue group, our local humane society, our Wildlife care (we had 7 bear cubs this past year!), and my dog Henry (a Beagle/Border Collie mix) and I visit our local nursing home. So it's about time I shifted my way of living to fit with my values and love of animals. > > I live between S. Lake Tahoe and Santa Cruz, CA - right now mostly in Tahoe - but soon to shift to Santa Cruz - an area abundant with Vegans! > > Hope this wasn't too long ! Look forward to " meeting " you. > > sandy > Sandy, welcome from another new member. The Amy's soy cheeze pizza is actually pretty good. As you're noticing, most soy cheeses aren't very good. I don't care for vegetable pizzas without cheese. An alternative i had in Italy was a potato pizza. Very thinly sliced potatoes baked on top come out similar in consistency to cheese and very yummy. Here's a recipe i'm going to try sooner or later: http://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/7447/sullivan-street-potato-pizza-recipe Good luck, Russ Ps If you're invited over to dinner and it seems like a possible hardship for the folks cooking, you could offer to bring a dish and possibly teach them about yummy vegan food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 , 4lilpups wrote: >Hi, I am new here as well. I lived vegan lifestyle couple of years ago, thinking I might try again. This time around I want to try do just do raw live foods. I have concerns about soy as primary source of protein. I just have no interest in mock meats or any type of tofu; really want to stay away from anything processed. I am thinking of foods vegetables, fruits, some nuts, sprouts, basically things I can get locally and fresh as possible. I also do not wish to take any supplements. I kept coming across the B-12 issue whenever I research being a vegan. There is just so much differing views and opinions. To be honest, I enjoy many of the foods that I have eaten on a diet which includes animal products. For me being a vegan is much more of spiritual pursuit. Anyway, looking forward to some productive enlightening discourse. > I miss cheese the most in mexican foods. Luckily, I discovered roasted acorn squash provides that creamy texture and packs a lot more flavor than cheese ever did!!! > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T > > > Sandy Mathiesen <smathiesen > > Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:59:54 > > Introduction ! > > > Hi - > Thanks for letting me join your group! I'm a new Vegan - as of Feb. 1st - so I hope to learn from you all. I've been mostly vegetarian (i.e.Turkey at Thxgiving and Xmas and fish once in a blue moon) for years and years. > > My chol. has been slightly high and I am following the McDougall plan. All I really have given up is those rare holiday meals, non-fat milk, and maybe 2 to 3 oz of cheese per week. OH - and my olive oil (all oils,at least for now). > > I've been trying lots of new recipes and enjoying them all - haven't met a vegetable I don't like! I'm reading " Vegan The New Ethics of Eating " by Erik Marcus and am feeling that this way of life/eating fits my values and will be with me for life. > > My chol. has gone down from 230 to 189 in 6 weeks. Go figure. I haven't really changed much - but did add some recommended supplements (McDougall recommended). > > I will say that I am missing cheese. I crave a slice of cheese pizza! I tried some vegetarian cheese, some soy cheese and BLECH. won't be eating those again! I also am struggling a bit when invited to someone's house for dinner - but have handled it creatively so far. :-) Those really feel like my only 2 " challenges " thus far. > > Let's see - I'm a volunteer for a Golden Retriever rescue group, our local humane society, our Wildlife care (we had 7 bear cubs this past year!), and my dog Henry (a Beagle/Border Collie mix) and I visit our local nursing home. So it's about time I shifted my way of living to fit with my values and love of animals. > > I live between S. Lake Tahoe and Santa Cruz, CA - right now mostly in Tahoe - but soon to shift to Santa Cruz - an area abundant with Vegans! > > Hope this wasn't too long ! Look forward to " meeting " you. > > sandy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 Good luck this time. If you want to live without supplements you will need to eat some food that is fortified with vitamin B12. There is ample evidence proving that we need to and it's not worth taking any chances with your health. Jo , " jonkit_lee " <jonkit wrote: > > , 4lilpups@ wrote: > >Hi, I am new here as well. I lived vegan lifestyle couple of years ago, thinking I might try again. This time around I want to try do just do raw live foods. I have concerns about soy as primary source of protein. I just have no interest in mock meats or any type of tofu; really want to stay away from anything processed. I am thinking of foods vegetables, fruits, some nuts, sprouts, basically things I can get locally and fresh as possible. I also do not wish to take any supplements. I kept coming across the B-12 issue whenever I research being a vegan. There is just so much differing views and opinions. To be honest, I enjoy many of the foods that I have eaten on a diet which includes animal products. For me being a vegan is much more of spiritual pursuit. Anyway, looking forward to some productive enlightening discourse. > > I miss cheese the most in mexican foods. Luckily, I discovered roasted acorn squash provides that creamy texture and packs a lot more flavor than cheese ever did!!! > > > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T > > > > > > Sandy Mathiesen <smathiesen@> > > > > Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:59:54 > > > > Introduction ! > > > > > > Hi - > > Thanks for letting me join your group! I'm a new Vegan - as of Feb. 1st - so I hope to learn from you all. I've been mostly vegetarian (i.e.Turkey at Thxgiving and Xmas and fish once in a blue moon) for years and years. > > > > My chol. has been slightly high and I am following the McDougall plan. All I really have given up is those rare holiday meals, non-fat milk, and maybe 2 to 3 oz of cheese per week. OH - and my olive oil (all oils,at least for now). > > > > I've been trying lots of new recipes and enjoying them all - haven't met a vegetable I don't like! I'm reading " Vegan The New Ethics of Eating " by Erik Marcus and am feeling that this way of life/eating fits my values and will be with me for life. > > > > My chol. has gone down from 230 to 189 in 6 weeks. Go figure. I haven't really changed much - but did add some recommended supplements (McDougall recommended). > > > > I will say that I am missing cheese. I crave a slice of cheese pizza! I tried some vegetarian cheese, some soy cheese and BLECH. won't be eating those again! I also am struggling a bit when invited to someone's house for dinner - but have handled it creatively so far. :-) Those really feel like my only 2 " challenges " thus far. > > > > Let's see - I'm a volunteer for a Golden Retriever rescue group, our local humane society, our Wildlife care (we had 7 bear cubs this past year!), and my dog Henry (a Beagle/Border Collie mix) and I visit our local nursing home. So it's about time I shifted my way of living to fit with my values and love of animals. > > > > I live between S. Lake Tahoe and Santa Cruz, CA - right now mostly in Tahoe - but soon to shift to Santa Cruz - an area abundant with Vegans! > > > > Hope this wasn't too long ! Look forward to " meeting " you. > > > > sandy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 I'm sure that after reading this you'll realise that veganism is the healthiest way to live - and don't forget it's healthier for the animals too ;o) We do not need to obtain B vitamins from animals at all. Sources include: potatoes, bananas, nuts, lentils, chilli peppers, green vegetables, whole wheat (germ & bran), oatmeal, whole brown rice, soybeans. I am a lifelong vegan who has never taken any supplements, and am extremely healthy. All vitamin B-Complex group are water soluble, and are linked together in several chemical ways. They are formed from either bacteria, yeasts, fungi, or moulds. Hands: Look at the shape of your hands - they are clearly 'designed' to eat fruit, etc. and not kill or skin an animal to eat its flesh. Our nails are not shaped like claws, and are not strong, but they are designed to skin an orange. It is obvious that flesh usually needs cooking before humans ingest it, and cooking is not a 'natural' thing to do. Flesh is NOT easily assimilated into our bodies. (You need to notice human anatomy and behaviour in all its forms, not just the digestive tract, or alimentary canal). Olfactory: Once we start eating our 'natural' food source, rather than unnaturally eating flesh, we start to turn up our noses at the smell. An orange is a pleasing emotional smell. Rotting carcasses are NOT nice to our emotions. Another clue to the ' natural design' of our bodies. Visual: Fruit and vegetables are emotionally more pleasing to our eyes. Audio: We do not like to hear an animal scream - it affects us emotionally again. We may even prefer the sound of an apple being crunched. Human intelligence and emotions have been adapted to cruelty by the modern conditions we live under - we are not a naturally 'cruel' species. Our emotions ARE involved, whether you like it or not. That too is part of the grand 'design' we call 'nature'. Personally, I don't believe humans were hunter-gatherers. The animals found inside caves may have lived naturally with humans, (just as our companion animals do now), because they had no need to be afraid that they were about to be killed and eaten. Something fundamental changed, and we've been suffering for it ever since. I'm sure you can now think of other things appertaining to the natural design of our bodies with regard to our natural diet. Medlar >Hi, I am new here as well. I lived vegan lifestyle couple of years ago, thinking I might try again. This time around I want to try do just do raw live foods. I have concerns about soy as primary source of protein. I just have no interest in mock meats or any type of tofu; really want to stay away from anything processed. I am thinking of foods vegetables, fruits, some nuts, sprouts, basically things I can get locally and fresh as possible. I also do not wish to take any supplements. I kept coming across the B-12 issue whenever I research being a vegan. There is just so much differing views and opinions. To be honest, I enjoy many of the foods that I have eaten on a diet which includes animal products. For me being a vegan is much more of spiritual pursuit. Anyway, looking forward to some productive enlightening discourse. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Russell I didnt know it was possible to make that type of pizza! Sounds interesting Jerrold--- On Mon, 3/23/09, Russell Fontenot <unovegan wrote: Russell Fontenot <unoveganRe: Re: Introduction ! Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 6:36 PM Sandy, i've had a cheeseless pizza in Italy with very thinly sliced potatoes on top. similar consistency to cheese. very tasty. i'm going to make some soon and i'll let you know how it goes. I don't like pizzas without some form of soy cheeze or anything. This might be a good alternative for you to try. As someone else stated, Amy's makes a good vegan soy cheese pizza.--- On Mon, 3/23/09, heartwerk <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com> wrote: heartwerk <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com> Re: Introduction !@gro ups.comMonday, March 23, 2009, 2:55 AM Cheeseless pizzas are very good. In the UK Dominoes bases are vegan and you can have any them without cheese. I believe also Pizza Express is okay. Many restaurants will also make a cheeseless pizza.Jo@gro ups.com, yarrow wrote:>> Sandy,> Have you tried pizza without the cheese? Amy's makes one with roasted > vegetables, or (if you're so inclined) you can make your own. I had > one of Amy's the other day and liked it -- as with most foods, I > think it's the seasonings that make it taste right. I've not eaten > cheese for a couple decades, and I didn't really like the idea of > eating a chunk-o-fat, so I never missed it. But I've known people who > liked some of the "cheez" recipes in Jo Stepaniak's Ultimate Uncheese > Cookbook.> http://www.vegsourc e.com/jo/ books/ultimate. htm> http://www.vegsourc e.com/articles2/ balogh_ultimate_ uncheese. htm> > We got a 3-year-old golden a couple years ago who's such a sweetie! I > loved our dobermans, but they're gone and irreplaceable, and it is > fun to experience this different way of being a dog.> > > > At 2:59 PM -0700 3/19/09, Sandy Mathiesen wrote:> Hi -> Thanks for letting me join your group! I'm a new Vegan - as of Feb. > 1st - so I hope to learn from you all. I've been mostly vegetarian > (i.e.Turkey at Thxgiving and Xmas and fish once in a blue moon) for > years and years.> > My chol. has been slightly high and I am following the McDougall > plan. All I really have given up is those rare holiday meals, > non-fat milk, and maybe 2 to 3 oz of cheese per week. OH - and my > olive oil (all oils,at least for now).> > I've been trying lots of new recipes and enjoying them all - haven't > met a vegetable I don't like! I'm reading "Vegan The New Ethics of > Eating" by Erik Marcus and am feeling that this way of life/eating > fits my values and will be with me for life.> > My chol. has gone down from 230 to 189 in 6 weeks. Go figure. I > haven't really changed much - but did add some recommended > supplements (McDougall recommended) .> > I will say that I am missing cheese. I crave a slice of cheese > pizza! I tried some vegetarian cheese, some soy cheese and BLECH. > won't be eating those again! I also am struggling a bit when > invited to someone's house for dinner - but have handled it > creatively so far. :-) Those really feel like my only 2 > "challenges" thus far.> > Let's see - I'm a volunteer for a Golden Retriever rescue group, our > local humane society, our Wildlife care (we had 7 bear cubs this past > year!), and my dog Henry (a Beagle/Border Collie mix) and I visit our > local nursing home. So it's about time I shifted my way of living > to fit with my values and love of animals.> > I live between S. Lake Tahoe and Santa Cruz, CA - right now mostly in > Tahoe - but soon to shift to Santa Cruz - an area abundant with > Vegans!> > Hope this wasn't too long ! Look forward to "meeting" you.> > sandy> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 \interesting - and yummy! i will definitely be trying it!--- On Thu, 3/26/09, Jerrrold Fuller <cocopuffs771 wrote: Jerrrold Fuller <cocopuffs771Re: Re: Introduction ! Date: Thursday, March 26, 2009, 5:32 AM Russell I didnt know it was possible to make that type of pizza! Sounds interesting Jerrold--- On Mon, 3/23/09, Russell Fontenot <unovegan wrote: Russell Fontenot <unoveganRe: Re: Introduction ! Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 6:36 PM Sandy, i've had a cheeseless pizza in Italy with very thinly sliced potatoes on top. similar consistency to cheese. very tasty. i'm going to make some soon and i'll let you know how it goes. I don't like pizzas without some form of soy cheeze or anything. This might be a good alternative for you to try. As someone else stated, Amy's makes a good vegan soy cheese pizza.--- On Mon, 3/23/09, heartwerk <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com> wrote: heartwerk <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com> Re: Introduction !@gro ups.comMonday, March 23, 2009, 2:55 AM Cheeseless pizzas are very good. In the UK Dominoes bases are vegan and you can have any them without cheese. I believe also Pizza Express is okay. Many restaurants will also make a cheeseless pizza.Jo@gro ups.com, yarrow wrote:>> Sandy,> Have you tried pizza without the cheese? Amy's makes one with roasted > vegetables, or (if you're so inclined) you can make your own. I had > one of Amy's the other day and liked it -- as with most foods, I > think it's the seasonings that make it taste right. I've not eaten > cheese for a couple decades, and I didn't really like the idea of > eating a chunk-o-fat, so I never missed it. But I've known people who > liked some of the "cheez" recipes in Jo Stepaniak's Ultimate Uncheese > Cookbook.> http://www.vegsourc e.com/jo/ books/ultimate. htm> http://www.vegsourc e.com/articles2/ balogh_ultimate_ uncheese. htm> > We got a 3-year-old golden a couple years ago who's such a sweetie! I > loved our dobermans, but they're gone and irreplaceable, and it is > fun to experience this different way of being a dog.> > > > At 2:59 PM -0700 3/19/09, Sandy Mathiesen wrote:> Hi -> Thanks for letting me join your group! I'm a new Vegan - as of Feb. > 1st - so I hope to learn from you all. I've been mostly vegetarian > (i.e.Turkey at Thxgiving and Xmas and fish once in a blue moon) for > years and years.> > My chol. has been slightly high and I am following the McDougall > plan. All I really have given up is those rare holiday meals, > non-fat milk, and maybe 2 to 3 oz of cheese per week. OH - and my > olive oil (all oils,at least for now).> > I've been trying lots of new recipes and enjoying them all - haven't > met a vegetable I don't like! I'm reading "Vegan The New Ethics of > Eating" by Erik Marcus and am feeling that this way of life/eating > fits my values and will be with me for life.> > My chol. has gone down from 230 to 189 in 6 weeks. Go figure. I > haven't really changed much - but did add some recommended > supplements (McDougall recommended) .> > I will say that I am missing cheese. I crave a slice of cheese > pizza! I tried some vegetarian cheese, some soy cheese and BLECH. > won't be eating those again! I also am struggling a bit when > invited to someone's house for dinner - but have handled it > creatively so far. :-) Those really feel like my only 2 > "challenges" thus far.> > Let's see - I'm a volunteer for a Golden Retriever rescue group, our > local humane society, our Wildlife care (we had 7 bear cubs this past > year!), and my dog Henry (a Beagle/Border Collie mix) and I visit our > local nursing home. So it's about time I shifted my way of living > to fit with my values and love of animals.> > I live between S. Lake Tahoe and Santa Cruz, CA - right now mostly in > Tahoe - but soon to shift to Santa Cruz - an area abundant with > Vegans!> > Hope this wasn't too long ! Look forward to "meeting" you.> > sandy> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 I know what you mean about vegan cheese. Most of them don't taste that good. I like two. This one in my opinion tastes almost identical to cow cheese. http://www.buteisland.com/ My whole foods nearby just started carrying it, our local vegan group asked them to carry it. Another one which melts on pizza really well is this one. (or any italian recipe) http://www.followyourheart.com/vegangourmet.html follow your heart also makes a good vegan mayonaise, call veganaise and it is pretty good. Anouk , " shinobibombay " <shinobibombay wrote: > > Hi, Sandy! > Welcome to the group! > Yes vegan cheese sucks all by itself. But, if grated and melted it works pretty good in Mexican food and stuff. > Congrats on the bears cubs! > Spent all day plottong the garden and putting up fence. Supposed to snow tomorrow. > > Bill- in Utah > > , Sandy Mathiesen <smathiesen@> wrote: > > > > Hi - > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Be careful with those " vegan " cheeses. Some of them are as bad as eating regular cheese. http://rawvegandiet.wordpress.com/2009/03/27/when-youre-vegan-you-have-to-be-careful-with-labels/ On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 1:57 PM, flower child <zurumato wrote: I know what you mean about vegan cheese. Most of them don't taste that good. I like two. This one in my opinion tastes almost identical to cow cheese. http://www.buteisland.com/ My whole foods nearby just started carrying it, our local vegan group asked them to carry it. Another one which melts on pizza really well is this one. (or any italian recipe) http://www.followyourheart.com/vegangourmet.html follow your heart also makes a good vegan mayonaise, call veganaise and it is pretty good. Anouk , " shinobibombay " <shinobibombay wrote: > > Hi, Sandy! > Welcome to the group! > Yes vegan cheese sucks all by itself. But, if grated and melted it works pretty good in Mexican food and stuff. > Congrats on the bears cubs! > Spent all day plottong the garden and putting up fence. Supposed to snow tomorrow. > > Bill- in Utah > > , Sandy Mathiesen <smathiesen@> wrote: > > > > Hi - > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 hi yarrow, also, sometimes nutritional yeast will give a recipe a " cheesy " taste. we make a pizza with marinara sauce, vegetables (onions, etc) and nutritional yeast sprinkled on top. It is delicious. , yarrow wrote: > > Sandy, > Have you tried pizza without the cheese? Amy's makes one with roasted > vegetables, or (if you're so inclined) you can make your own. I had > one of Amy's the other day and liked it -- as with most foods, I > think it's the seasonings that make it taste right. I've not eaten > cheese for a couple decades, and I didn't really like the idea of > eating a chunk-o-fat, so I never missed it. But I've known people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Anouk - thank you for the cheese leads! much appreciated. There are no Whole Foods near me (wahhh) but I do get near one in my frequent travels so will check it out - or see if I can get my local health food store to help me! --- On Mon, 3/30/09, flower child <zurumato wrote: flower child <zurumato Re: Introduction ! Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 1:57 PMI know what you mean about vegan cheese. Most of them don't taste that good. I like two. This one in my opinion tastes almost identical to cow cheese. http://www.buteisland.com/ My whole foods nearby just started carrying it, our local vegan group asked them to carry it. Another one which melts on pizza really well is this one. (or any italian recipe) http://www.followyourheart.com/vegangourmet.html follow your heart also makes a good vegan mayonaise, call veganaise and it is pretty good. Anouk , "shinobibombay" <shinobibombay wrote: > > Hi, Sandy! > Welcome to the group! > Yes vegan cheese sucks all by itself. But, if grated and melted it works pretty good in Mexican food and stuff. > Congrats on the bears cubs! > Spent all day plottong the garden and putting up fence. Supposed to snow tomorrow. > > Bill- in Utah > > , Sandy Mathiesen <smathiesen@> wrote: > > > > Hi - > > > --- To send an email to -! Groups Links <*> / <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: /join ( ID required) <*> To change settings via email: -digest -fullfeatured <*> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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