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I am sorry if I started a ruckus in here with my faith I did not mean to. could

I get some resupies from you guys like all purpose muffins and cookies?

 

thank you

 

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Hi Katie

 

It is a chat group and your discussion was fine. Mmmmm muffins and cookies. I'll have to sort out some recipes.

 

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I am sorry if I started a ruckus in here with my faith I did not mean to. could I get some resupies from you guys like all purpose muffins and cookies?thank youkatie )O(

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At 7:31 PM +0000 4/1/09, Katie wrote:

>I am sorry if I started a ruckus in here with my faith I did not

>mean to. could I get some resupies from you guys like all purpose

>muffins and cookies?

>

 

I have some less-sweet muffin recipes. Usually I start with a

published recipe and experiment with taking out the sweeteners and

added oils, and see what I can substitute based on what I have on

hand. I can send some recipes if that sounds like what you might want.

 

Otherwise, I like the muffin/cupcake recipes from theppk (is it .com

or .org or .net?).

 

I also have a recipe for a thumbprint tahini cookie that has marmalade on top.

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I hope this doesn't offend anyone. but there's a certain freedom I feel in being

atheist. I don't feel comfortable following any human made religion and feel

better drawing my own conclusions, through my own personal experiences.

 

That being said. I identify with some religions and find something positive in

almost every one of them. I respect peoples beliefs and take what I can (the

positive) from each and every one.

 

I identify somewhat more, with Asian faiths like hinduism and budhism et.al.

because they promote peace.

 

I identify also with some spiritual parts of catholicsm and other religions,

especialy the Beauty and Art of the architecture of their churches. The

beautiful garments worn.

 

I took a test just for fun. belief o matic

http://www.beliefnet.com/Entertainment/Quizzes/BeliefOMatic.aspx?source=Google & c\

ampaign=076 & medium=PPC & nopop=1 & ppc=ppc_mar_2009 & utm_source=google & utm_medium=cpc\

& utm_term=belief-o-matic & utm_campaign=entertainment

 

and it came out that i was a neo-pagan. I had never even heard of that before.

 

I do worship somethings though..

Nature = I write poems to my love..the earth.

Science = I am fascinated by what we yet don't know.

 

Anouk

 

 

 

, " Katie " <east_watch wrote:

>

> I am sorry if I started a ruckus in here with my faith I did not mean to.

could I get some resupies from you guys like all purpose muffins and cookies?

>

> thank you

>

> katie )O(

>

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Hi AnoukNeo-pagan is just another term for Pagan. It's got the " neo " in front of it to indicate that it's modern, rather than ancient Paganism, but most people who are " Neo-Pagan " just call themselves Pagan.

I had a go on the belief-o-matic a couple of years ago and came out 98% Quaker... the only thing I disagree with them on is the monotheism... which is slightly ironic, as that's possibly the most significant " 2% " of their religion!

BBPeter2009/4/2 flower child <zurumato

I hope this doesn't offend anyone. but there's a certain freedom I feel in being atheist. I don't feel comfortable following any human made religion and feel better drawing my own conclusions, through my own personal experiences.

 

That being said. I identify with some religions and find something positive in almost every one of them. I respect peoples beliefs and take what I can (the positive) from each and every one.

 

I identify somewhat more, with Asian faiths like hinduism and budhism et.al. because they promote peace.

 

I identify also with some spiritual parts of catholicsm and other religions, especialy the Beauty and Art of the architecture of their churches. The beautiful garments worn.

 

I took a test just for fun.  belief o matic http://www.beliefnet.com/Entertainment/Quizzes/BeliefOMatic.aspx?source=Google & campaign=076 & medium=PPC & nopop=1 & ppc=ppc_mar_2009 & utm_source=google & utm_medium=cpc & utm_term=belief-o-matic & utm_campaign=entertainment

 

and it came out that i was a neo-pagan. I had never even heard of that before.

 

I do worship somethings though..

Nature = I write poems to my love..the earth.

Science = I am fascinated by what we yet don't know.

 

Anouk

 

 

 

, " Katie " <east_watch wrote:

>

> I am sorry if I started a ruckus in here with my faith I did not mean to.  could I get some resupies from you guys like all purpose muffins and cookies?

>

> thank you

>

> katie )O(

>

 

 

 

 

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HI Anouk

 

LOL - I repeat - I think you may be Pagan, especially as your results in the

test came out that way.

 

Jo

 

, " flower child " <zurumato wrote:

>

> I hope this doesn't offend anyone. but there's a certain freedom I feel in

being atheist. I don't feel comfortable following any human made religion and

feel better drawing my own conclusions, through my own personal experiences.

>

> That being said. I identify with some religions and find something positive in

almost every one of them. I respect peoples beliefs and take what I can (the

positive) from each and every one.

>

> I identify somewhat more, with Asian faiths like hinduism and budhism et.al.

because they promote peace.

>

> I identify also with some spiritual parts of catholicsm and other religions,

especialy the Beauty and Art of the architecture of their churches. The

beautiful garments worn.

>

> I took a test just for fun. belief o matic

http://www.beliefnet.com/Entertainment/Quizzes/BeliefOMatic.aspx?source=Google & c\

ampaign=076 & medium=PPC & nopop=1 & ppc=ppc_mar_2009 & utm_source=google & utm_medium=cpc\

& utm_term=belief-o-matic & utm_campaign=entertainment

>

> and it came out that i was a neo-pagan. I had never even heard of that before.

>

> I do worship somethings though..

> Nature = I write poems to my love..the earth.

> Science = I am fascinated by what we yet don't know.

>

> Anouk

>

>

>

> , " Katie " <east_watch@> wrote:

> >

> > I am sorry if I started a ruckus in here with my faith I did not mean to.

could I get some resupies from you guys like all purpose muffins and cookies?

> >

> > thank you

> >

> > katie )O(

> >

>

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Hi Peter/ Anouk

 

I can't remember the percentages from when I took the test, but I came out

approximately half Pagan half New Age.

 

BB

Jo

 

, Peter Kebbell <metalscarab wrote:

>

> Hi Anouk

>

> Neo-pagan is just another term for Pagan. It's got the " neo " in front of it

> to indicate that it's modern, rather than ancient Paganism, but most people

> who are " Neo-Pagan " just call themselves Pagan.

>

> I had a go on the belief-o-matic a couple of years ago and came out 98%

> Quaker... the only thing I disagree with them on is the monotheism... which

> is slightly ironic, as that's possibly the most significant " 2% " of their

> religion!

>

> BB

> Peter

>

> 2009/4/2 flower child <zurumato

>

> > I hope this doesn't offend anyone. but there's a certain freedom I feel in

> > being atheist. I don't feel comfortable following any human made religion

> > and feel better drawing my own conclusions, through my own personal

> > experiences.

> >

> > That being said. I identify with some religions and find something positive

> > in almost every one of them. I respect peoples beliefs and take what I can

> > (the positive) from each and every one.

> >

> > I identify somewhat more, with Asian faiths like hinduism and budhism

> > et.al. because they promote peace.

> >

> > I identify also with some spiritual parts of catholicsm and other

> > religions, especialy the Beauty and Art of the architecture of their

> > churches. The beautiful garments worn.

> >

> > I took a test just for fun. belief o matic

> >

http://www.beliefnet.com/Entertainment/Quizzes/BeliefOMatic.aspx?source=Google & c\

ampaign=076 & medium=PPC & nopop=1 & ppc=ppc_mar_2009 & utm_source=google & utm_medium=cpc\

& utm_term=belief-o-matic & utm_campaign=entertainment

> >

> > and it came out that i was a neo-pagan. I had never even heard of that

> > before.

> >

> > I do worship somethings though..

> > Nature = I write poems to my love..the earth.

> > Science = I am fascinated by what we yet don't know.

> >

> > Anouk

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Katie " <east_watch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > I am sorry if I started a ruckus in here with my faith I did not mean to.

> > could I get some resupies from you guys like all purpose muffins and

> > cookies?

> > >

> > > thank you

> > >

> > > katie )O(

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---

> >

> > To send an email to -!

> > Groups Links

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Hi Jo,

 

Here are my results from belief o matic.

It turns out I'm a little bit quaker too! I've never even met a quaker before.

Here where I live in florida, my neighbors are either Christian or Baptists.

Oh and there's an Amish community nearby.

 

 

1. Neo-Pagan (100%)

2. New Age (96%)

3. Mahayana Buddhism (96%)

4. Liberal Quakers (94%)

5. Unitarian Universalism (94%)

6. Taoism (93%)

7. Theravada Buddhism (83%)

8. New Thought (71%)

9. Scientology (70%)

10. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (70%)

11. Orthodox Quaker (68%)

12. Secular Humanism (67%)

13. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (63%)

14. Jainism (63%)

15. Baha'i Faith (62%)

16. Hinduism (59%)

17. Reform Judaism (57%)

18. Nontheist (39%)

19. Sikhism (39%)

20. Orthodox Judaism (35%)

21. Seventh Day Adventist (32%)

22. Islam (28%)

23. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (24%)

24. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (20%)

25. Eastern Orthodox (17%)

26. Roman Catholic (17%)

27. Jehovah's Witness (13%)

 

 

 

, " heartwerk " <jo.heartwork wrote:

>

> Hi Peter/ Anouk

>

> I can't remember the percentages from when I took the test, but I came out

approximately half Pagan half New Age.

>

> BB

> Jo

>

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I came out 100% Reformed Judaism, which was not surprising because I'm Jewish. The next highest was 87% Universalist-Unitarian.

 

- DJ-----------------------Always remember: Today's mighty oak is simplyyesterday's nut that held its ground...

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of heartwerkThursday, April 02, 2009 11:46 PM Subject: Re: back to the veges

 

 

Hi Peter/ AnoukI can't remember the percentages from when I took the test, but I came out approximately half Pagan half New Age.BBJo , Peter Kebbell <metalscarab wrote:>> Hi Anouk> > Neo-pagan is just another term for Pagan. It's got the "neo" in front of it> to indicate that it's modern, rather than ancient Paganism, but most people> who are "Neo-Pagan" just call themselves Pagan.> > I had a go on the belief-o-matic a couple of years ago and came out 98%> Quaker... the only thing I disagree with them on is the monotheism... which> is slightly ironic, as that's possibly the most significant "2%" of their> religion!> > BB> Peter> > 2009/4/2 flower child <zurumato> > > I hope this doesn't offend anyone. but there's a certain freedom I feel in> > being atheist. I don't feel comfortable following any human made religion> > and feel better drawing my own conclusions, through my own personal> > experiences.> >> > That being said. I identify with some religions and find something positive> > in almost every one of them. I respect peoples beliefs and take what I can> > (the positive) from each and every one.> >> > I identify somewhat more, with Asian faiths like hinduism and budhism> > et.al. because they promote peace.> >> > I identify also with some spiritual parts of catholicsm and other> > religions, especialy the Beauty and Art of the architecture of their> > churches. The beautiful garments worn.> >> > I took a test just for fun. belief o matic> > http://www.beliefnet.com/Entertainment/Quizzes/BeliefOMatic.aspx?source=Google & campaign=076 & medium=PPC & nopop=1 & ppc=ppc_mar_2009 & utm_source=google & utm_medium=cpc & utm_term=belief-o-matic & utm_campaign=entertainment> >> > and it came out that i was a neo-pagan. I had never even heard of that> > before.> >> > I do worship somethings though..> > Nature = I write poems to my love..the earth.> > Science = I am fascinated by what we yet don't know.> >> > Anouk> >> >> >> > , "Katie" <east_watch@> wrote:> > >> > > I am sorry if I started a ruckus in here with my faith I did not mean to.> > could I get some resupies from you guys like all purpose muffins and> > cookies?> > >> > > thank you> > >> > > katie )O(> > >> >> >> >> >> > ---> >> > To send an email to -!> > Groups Links> >> >> >> >>

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HI Anouk

 

It is interesting.

 

Jo

 

 

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Friday, April 03, 2009 2:44 PM

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Hi Jo,Here are my results from belief o matic.It turns out I'm a little bit quaker too! I've never even met a quaker before. Here where I live in florida, my neighbors are either Christian or Baptists. Oh and there's an Amish community nearby. 1. Neo-Pagan (100%) 2. New Age (96%) 3. Mahayana Buddhism (96%) 4. Liberal Quakers (94%) 5. Unitarian Universalism (94%) 6. Taoism (93%) 7. Theravada Buddhism (83%) 8. New Thought (71%) 9. Scientology (70%) 10. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (70%) 11. Orthodox Quaker (68%) 12. Secular Humanism (67%) 13. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (63%) 14. Jainism (63%) 15. Baha'i Faith (62%) 16. Hinduism (59%) 17. Reform Judaism (57%) 18. Nontheist (39%) 19. Sikhism (39%) 20. Orthodox Judaism (35%) 21. Seventh Day Adventist (32%) 22. Islam (28%) 23. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (24%) 24. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (20%) 25. Eastern Orthodox (17%) 26. Roman Catholic (17%) 27. Jehovah's Witness (13%) , "heartwerk" <jo.heartwork wrote:>> Hi Peter/ Anouk> > I can't remember the percentages from when I took the test, but I came out approximately half Pagan half New Age.> > BB> Jo>

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Hi Dena Jo

 

LOL - that shows it must be working.

 

Jo

 

 

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Dena Jo

Friday, April 03, 2009 3:41 PM

RE: Re: back to the veges

 

 

 

I came out 100% Reformed Judaism, which was not surprising because I'm Jewish. The next highest was 87% Universalist-Unitarian.

 

- DJ-----------------------Always remember: Today's mighty oak is simplyyesterday's nut that held its ground...

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of heartwerkThursday, April 02, 2009 11:46 PM Subject: Re: back to the veges

 

 

Hi Peter/ AnoukI can't remember the percentages from when I took the test, but I came out approximately half Pagan half New Age.BBJo , Peter Kebbell <metalscarab wrote:>> Hi Anouk> > Neo-pagan is just another term for Pagan. It's got the "neo" in front of it> to indicate that it's modern, rather than ancient Paganism, but most people> who are "Neo-Pagan" just call themselves Pagan.> > I had a go on the belief-o-matic a couple of years ago and came out 98%> Quaker... the only thing I disagree with them on is the monotheism... which> is slightly ironic, as that's possibly the most significant "2%" of their> religion!> > BB> Peter> > 2009/4/2 flower child <zurumato> > > I hope this doesn't offend anyone. but there's a certain freedom I feel in> > being atheist. I don't feel comfortable following any human made religion> > and feel better drawing my own conclusions, through my own personal> > experiences.> >> > That being said. I identify with some religions and find something positive> > in almost every one of them. I respect peoples beliefs and take what I can> > (the positive) from each and every one.> >> > I identify somewhat more, with Asian faiths like hinduism and budhism> > et.al. because they promote peace.> >> > I identify also with some spiritual parts of catholicsm and other> > religions, especialy the Beauty and Art of the architecture of their> > churches. The beautiful garments worn.> >> > I took a test just for fun. belief o matic> > http://www.beliefnet.com/Entertainment/Quizzes/BeliefOMatic.aspx?source=Google & campaign=076 & medium=PPC & nopop=1 & ppc=ppc_mar_2009 & utm_source=google & utm_medium=cpc & utm_term=belief-o-matic & utm_campaign=entertainment> >> > and it came out that i was a neo-pagan. I had never even heard of that> > before.> >> > I do worship somethings though..> > Nature = I write poems to my love..the earth.> > Science = I am fascinated by what we yet don't know.> >> > Anouk> >> >> >> > , "Katie" <east_watch@> wrote:> > >> > > I am sorry if I started a ruckus in here with my faith I did not mean to.> > could I get some resupies from you guys like all purpose muffins and> > cookies?> > >> > > thank you> > >> > > katie )O(> > >> >> >> >> >> > ---> >> > To send an email to -!> > Groups Links> >> >> >> >>

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thank you that would be splendid.

 

I have one recipe that I can add every thing to no matter what but I have no

idea how to replaces the egg or milk.

 

if I can do that it will fix the problem.

 

pleas help

 

katie )O(

 

, yarrow wrote:

>

> At 7:31 PM +0000 4/1/09, Katie wrote:

> >I am sorry if I started a ruckus in here with my faith I did not

> >mean to. could I get some resupies from you guys like all purpose

> >muffins and cookies?

> >

>

> I have some less-sweet muffin recipes. Usually I start with a

> published recipe and experiment with taking out the sweeteners and

> added oils, and see what I can substitute based on what I have on

> hand. I can send some recipes if that sounds like what you might want.

>

> Otherwise, I like the muffin/cupcake recipes from theppk (is it .com

> or .org or .net?).

>

> I also have a recipe for a thumbprint tahini cookie that has marmalade on top.

>

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I've never tried it, but I have heard (from a reliable source) that holyhock works really well as an egg substitute. When it's holyhock season, I'll be giving it a go!BBPeter

2009/4/4 <yarrow

At 4:05 AM +0000 4/4/09, Katie wrote:

>I have one recipe that I can add every thing to no matter what but I

>have no idea how to replaces the egg or milk.

>

 

For cow's milk, you can substitute soymilk, rice milk, almond milk,

etc. Or, depending on the recipe and your taste, water or fruit juice!

 

If the egg is being used as a leavening agent (to make it rise), you

can add up to 1 tablespoon of baking powder, and add some liquid to

make up for the egg.  Or instead of adding rice milk, you can add a

tablespoon or two of flaxseed mixed in a quarter cup of water (IIRC,

that's the substitution per egg), which makes baked goods lighter in

texture. The flax in water also develops that viscous (slimy) texture

after it sits for a few minutes. I don't think I've tried using flax

without the baking powder.

 

If the egg is used as a binding agent, you can use anything moist

with some texture -- banana, applesauce, prune paste (there used to

be a prune paste on the market called " light bake " that was intended

to substitute for egg in baked goods), pumpkin, baked winter squash,

etc. I've even adapted a recipe for pumpkin muffins to use cooked

nettles. (I have a bumper crop of celery this week that I need to

pick before it bolts, and I'm thinking... celery muffins? I'll have

to think about what else goes with celery. Maybe walnuts.)

 

I've done a lot of experimenting with recipes to use what I have on

hand and to simplify the list of ingredients, and what I've learned

is that you have to keep the moist/dry ratio in mind, more or less.

But I've had great results from watery batters and from very stiff

batters! I find muffins are very amenable to improvisation.

 

I always reduce the amount of sugar (or add chocolate chips and

eliminate sweeteners entirely), and replace oil with another liquid

(rice milk, etc.). I like to use paper liners in the muffin pans

because it saves so much time -- no need to oil the pan, ease the

muffins out, wash the pan.

 

I don't even pay much attention to cooking times. Generally I start

checking after about 20 minutes or so for regular-size muffins. If a

toothpick comes out clean, it's done. If not, I wait a few more

minutes and check again -- ideally, at 2-minute intervals, but

usually I don't watch the clock and just wait until they smell like

they're done.

 

 

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At 4:05 AM +0000 4/4/09, Katie wrote:

>I have one recipe that I can add every thing to no matter what but I

>have no idea how to replaces the egg or milk.

>

 

For cow's milk, you can substitute soymilk, rice milk, almond milk,

etc. Or, depending on the recipe and your taste, water or fruit juice!

 

If the egg is being used as a leavening agent (to make it rise), you

can add up to 1 tablespoon of baking powder, and add some liquid to

make up for the egg. Or instead of adding rice milk, you can add a

tablespoon or two of flaxseed mixed in a quarter cup of water (IIRC,

that's the substitution per egg), which makes baked goods lighter in

texture. The flax in water also develops that viscous (slimy) texture

after it sits for a few minutes. I don't think I've tried using flax

without the baking powder.

 

If the egg is used as a binding agent, you can use anything moist

with some texture -- banana, applesauce, prune paste (there used to

be a prune paste on the market called " light bake " that was intended

to substitute for egg in baked goods), pumpkin, baked winter squash,

etc. I've even adapted a recipe for pumpkin muffins to use cooked

nettles. (I have a bumper crop of celery this week that I need to

pick before it bolts, and I'm thinking... celery muffins? I'll have

to think about what else goes with celery. Maybe walnuts.)

 

I've done a lot of experimenting with recipes to use what I have on

hand and to simplify the list of ingredients, and what I've learned

is that you have to keep the moist/dry ratio in mind, more or less.

But I've had great results from watery batters and from very stiff

batters! I find muffins are very amenable to improvisation.

 

I always reduce the amount of sugar (or add chocolate chips and

eliminate sweeteners entirely), and replace oil with another liquid

(rice milk, etc.). I like to use paper liners in the muffin pans

because it saves so much time -- no need to oil the pan, ease the

muffins out, wash the pan.

 

I don't even pay much attention to cooking times. Generally I start

checking after about 20 minutes or so for regular-size muffins. If a

toothpick comes out clean, it's done. If not, I wait a few more

minutes and check again -- ideally, at 2-minute intervals, but

usually I don't watch the clock and just wait until they smell like

they're done.

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Hi Peter

 

Check well to see which parts - I can find reference only to the flowers being

edible.

 

http://www.selfsufficientish.com/index.php/wild-foods/186-wild-food-in-the-st-we\

rburghs-area-of-bristol-uk-by-andy-aamp-dave-hamilton-and-fergus-drennan

 

Jo

 

, Peter Kebbell <metalscarab wrote:

>

> I've never tried it, but I have heard (from a reliable source) that holyhock

> works really well as an egg substitute. When it's holyhock season, I'll be

> giving it a go!

>

> BB

> Peter

>

> 2009/4/4 <yarrow

>

> > At 4:05 AM +0000 4/4/09, Katie wrote:

> > >I have one recipe that I can add every thing to no matter what but I

> > >have no idea how to replaces the egg or milk.

> > >

> >

> > For cow's milk, you can substitute soymilk, rice milk, almond milk,

> > etc. Or, depending on the recipe and your taste, water or fruit juice!

> >

> > If the egg is being used as a leavening agent (to make it rise), you

> > can add up to 1 tablespoon of baking powder, and add some liquid to

> > make up for the egg. Or instead of adding rice milk, you can add a

> > tablespoon or two of flaxseed mixed in a quarter cup of water (IIRC,

> > that's the substitution per egg), which makes baked goods lighter in

> > texture. The flax in water also develops that viscous (slimy) texture

> > after it sits for a few minutes. I don't think I've tried using flax

> > without the baking powder.

> >

> > If the egg is used as a binding agent, you can use anything moist

> > with some texture -- banana, applesauce, prune paste (there used to

> > be a prune paste on the market called " light bake " that was intended

> > to substitute for egg in baked goods), pumpkin, baked winter squash,

> > etc. I've even adapted a recipe for pumpkin muffins to use cooked

> > nettles. (I have a bumper crop of celery this week that I need to

> > pick before it bolts, and I'm thinking... celery muffins? I'll have

> > to think about what else goes with celery. Maybe walnuts.)

> >

> > I've done a lot of experimenting with recipes to use what I have on

> > hand and to simplify the list of ingredients, and what I've learned

> > is that you have to keep the moist/dry ratio in mind, more or less.

> > But I've had great results from watery batters and from very stiff

> > batters! I find muffins are very amenable to improvisation.

> >

> > I always reduce the amount of sugar (or add chocolate chips and

> > eliminate sweeteners entirely), and replace oil with another liquid

> > (rice milk, etc.). I like to use paper liners in the muffin pans

> > because it saves so much time -- no need to oil the pan, ease the

> > muffins out, wash the pan.

> >

> > I don't even pay much attention to cooking times. Generally I start

> > checking after about 20 minutes or so for regular-size muffins. If a

> > toothpick comes out clean, it's done. If not, I wait a few more

> > minutes and check again -- ideally, at 2-minute intervals, but

> > usually I don't watch the clock and just wait until they smell like

> > they're done.

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Hi Jo

 

It is the flowers... and that was the walk that we went on :)

 

BB

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> Hi Peter

>

> Check well to see which parts - I can find reference only to the flowers

> being edible.

>

>

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>

> Jo

>

> , Peter Kebbell <metalscarab wrote:

>>

>> I've never tried it, but I have heard (from a reliable source) that

>> holyhock

>> works really well as an egg substitute. When it's holyhock season, I'll

>> be

>> giving it a go!

>>

>> BB

>> Peter

>>

>> 2009/4/4 <yarrow

>>

>> > At 4:05 AM +0000 4/4/09, Katie wrote:

>> > >I have one recipe that I can add every thing to no matter what but I

>> > >have no idea how to replaces the egg or milk.

>> > >

>> >

>> > For cow's milk, you can substitute soymilk, rice milk, almond milk,

>> > etc. Or, depending on the recipe and your taste, water or fruit juice!

>> >

>> > If the egg is being used as a leavening agent (to make it rise), you

>> > can add up to 1 tablespoon of baking powder, and add some liquid to

>> > make up for the egg. Or instead of adding rice milk, you can add a

>> > tablespoon or two of flaxseed mixed in a quarter cup of water (IIRC,

>> > that's the substitution per egg), which makes baked goods lighter in

>> > texture. The flax in water also develops that viscous (slimy) texture

>> > after it sits for a few minutes. I don't think I've tried using flax

>> > without the baking powder.

>> >

>> > If the egg is used as a binding agent, you can use anything moist

>> > with some texture -- banana, applesauce, prune paste (there used to

>> > be a prune paste on the market called " light bake " that was intended

>> > to substitute for egg in baked goods), pumpkin, baked winter squash,

>> > etc. I've even adapted a recipe for pumpkin muffins to use cooked

>> > nettles. (I have a bumper crop of celery this week that I need to

>> > pick before it bolts, and I'm thinking... celery muffins? I'll have

>> > to think about what else goes with celery. Maybe walnuts.)

>> >

>> > I've done a lot of experimenting with recipes to use what I have on

>> > hand and to simplify the list of ingredients, and what I've learned

>> > is that you have to keep the moist/dry ratio in mind, more or less.

>> > But I've had great results from watery batters and from very stiff

>> > batters! I find muffins are very amenable to improvisation.

>> >

>> > I always reduce the amount of sugar (or add chocolate chips and

>> > eliminate sweeteners entirely), and replace oil with another liquid

>> > (rice milk, etc.). I like to use paper liners in the muffin pans

>> > because it saves so much time -- no need to oil the pan, ease the

>> > muffins out, wash the pan.

>> >

>> > I don't even pay much attention to cooking times. Generally I start

>> > checking after about 20 minutes or so for regular-size muffins. If a

>> > toothpick comes out clean, it's done. If not, I wait a few more

>> > minutes and check again -- ideally, at 2-minute intervals, but

>> > usually I don't watch the clock and just wait until they smell like

>> > they're done.

>> >

>> >

>> > ---

>> >

>> > To send an email to -!

>> > Groups Links

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

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Hi Peter

 

How weird - saw it was in Bristol, but didn't realise that :-)

 

Let me know how it goes.

 

BBJo

 

 

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Hi JoIt is the flowers... and that was the walk that we went on :)BBPeter- "heartwerk" <jo.heartwork >Monday, April 06, 2009 7:36 AM Re: back to the veges> Hi Peter>> Check well to see which parts - I can find reference only to the flowers > being edible.>> http://www.selfsufficientish.com/index.php/wild-foods/186-wild-food-in-the-st-werburghs-area-of-bristol-uk-by-andy-aamp-dave-hamilton-and-fergus-drennan>> Jo>> , Peter Kebbell <metalscarab wrote:>>>> I've never tried it, but I have heard (from a reliable source) that >> holyhock>> works really well as an egg substitute. When it's holyhock season, I'll >> be>> giving it a go!>>>> BB>> Peter>>>> 2009/4/4 <yarrow>>>> > At 4:05 AM +0000 4/4/09, Katie wrote:>> > >I have one recipe that I can add every thing to no matter what but I>> > >have no idea how to replaces the egg or milk.>> > >>> >>> > For cow's milk, you can substitute soymilk, rice milk, almond milk,>> > etc. Or, depending on the recipe and your taste, water or fruit juice!>> >>> > If the egg is being used as a leavening agent (to make it rise), you>> > can add up to 1 tablespoon of baking powder, and add some liquid to>> > make up for the egg. Or instead of adding rice milk, you can add a>> > tablespoon or two of flaxseed mixed in a quarter cup of water (IIRC,>> > that's the substitution per egg), which makes baked goods lighter in>> > texture. The flax in water also develops that viscous (slimy) texture>> > after it sits for a few minutes. I don't think I've tried using flax>> > without the baking powder.>> >>> > If the egg is used as a binding agent, you can use anything moist>> > with some texture -- banana, applesauce, prune paste (there used to>> > be a prune paste on the market called "light bake" that was intended>> > to substitute for egg in baked goods), pumpkin, baked winter squash,>> > etc. I've even adapted a recipe for pumpkin muffins to use cooked>> > nettles. (I have a bumper crop of celery this week that I need to>> > pick before it bolts, and I'm thinking... celery muffins? I'll have>> > to think about what else goes with celery. Maybe walnuts.)>> >>> > I've done a lot of experimenting with recipes to use what I have on>> > hand and to simplify the list of ingredients, and what I've learned>> > is that you have to keep the moist/dry ratio in mind, more or less.>> > But I've had great results from watery batters and from very stiff>> > batters! I find muffins are very amenable to improvisation.>> >>> > I always reduce the amount of sugar (or add chocolate chips and>> > eliminate sweeteners entirely), and replace oil with another liquid>> > (rice milk, etc.). I like to use paper liners in the muffin pans>> > because it saves so much time -- no need to oil the pan, ease the>> > muffins out, wash the pan.>> >>> > I don't even pay much attention to cooking times. Generally I start>> > checking after about 20 minutes or so for regular-size muffins. If a>> > toothpick comes out clean, it's done. If not, I wait a few more>> > minutes and check again -- ideally, at 2-minute intervals, but>> > usually I don't watch the clock and just wait until they smell like>> > they're done.>> >>> >>> > --->> >>> > To send an email to -!>> > Groups Links>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> --->> To send an email to > -

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Hi JoIt went on about 6 months ago! Was very interesting :-)BBPeter2009/4/6 jo.heartwork <jo.heartwork

 

 

Hi Peter

 

How weird - saw it was in Bristol, but didn't realise that :-)

 

Let me know how it goes.

 

BBJo

 

 

-

 

Peter

 

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Hi JoIt is the flowers... and that was the walk that we went on :)BBPeter- " heartwerk " <jo.heartworkMonday, April 06, 2009 7:36 AM Re: back to the veges> Hi Peter>> Check well to see which parts - I can find reference only to the flowers > being edible.>> http://www.selfsufficientish.com/index.php/wild-foods/186-wild-food-in-the-st-werburghs-area-of-bristol-uk-by-andy-aamp-dave-hamilton-and-fergus-drennan

>> Jo>> , Peter Kebbell <metalscarab wrote:>>>> I've never tried it, but I have heard (from a reliable source) that >> holyhock>> works really well as an egg substitute. When it's holyhock season, I'll >> be>> giving it a go!>>>> BB>> Peter>>>> 2009/4/4 <yarrow>>>> > At 4:05 AM +0000 4/4/09, Katie wrote:>> > >I have one recipe that I can add every thing to no matter what but I>> > >have no idea how to replaces the egg or milk.>> > >>> >>> > For cow's milk, you can substitute soymilk, rice milk, almond milk,>> > etc. Or, depending on the recipe and your taste, water or fruit juice!>> >>> > If the egg is being used as a leavening agent (to make it rise), you>> > can add up to 1 tablespoon of baking powder, and add some liquid to>> > make up for the egg. Or instead of adding rice milk, you can add a>> > tablespoon or two of flaxseed mixed in a quarter cup of water (IIRC,>> > that's the substitution per egg), which makes baked goods lighter in>> > texture. The flax in water also develops that viscous (slimy) texture>> > after it sits for a few minutes. I don't think I've tried using flax>> > without the baking powder.>> >>> > If the egg is used as a binding agent, you can use anything moist>> > with some texture -- banana, applesauce, prune paste (there used to>> > be a prune paste on the market called " light bake " that was intended>> > to substitute for egg in baked goods), pumpkin, baked winter squash,>> > etc. I've even adapted a recipe for pumpkin muffins to use cooked>> > nettles. (I have a bumper crop of celery this week that I need to>> > pick before it bolts, and I'm thinking... celery muffins? I'll have>> > to think about what else goes with celery. Maybe walnuts.)>> >>> > I've done a lot of experimenting with recipes to use what I have on>> > hand and to simplify the list of ingredients, and what I've learned>> > is that you have to keep the moist/dry ratio in mind, more or less.>> > But I've had great results from watery batters and from very stiff>> > batters! I find muffins are very amenable to improvisation.>> >>> > I always reduce the amount of sugar (or add chocolate chips and>> > eliminate sweeteners entirely), and replace oil with another liquid>> > (rice milk, etc.). I like to use paper liners in the muffin pans>> > because it saves so much time -- no need to oil the pan, ease the>> > muffins out, wash the pan.>> >>> > I don't even pay much attention to cooking times. Generally I start>> > checking after about 20 minutes or so for regular-size muffins. If a>> > toothpick comes out clean, it's done. If not, I wait a few more>> > minutes and check again -- ideally, at 2-minute intervals, but>> > usually I don't watch the clock and just wait until they smell like>> > they're done.>> >>> >>> > --->> >>> > To send an email to -!>> > Groups Links>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> --->> To send an email to > -! Groups Links>>>

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Hi Peter

 

I meant let me know how the hollyhock flowers go, when you try them :-)

 

BBJo

 

 

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Hi JoIt went on about 6 months ago! Was very interesting :-)BBPeter

2009/4/6 jo.heartwork <jo.heartwork >

 

Hi Peter

 

How weird - saw it was in Bristol, but didn't realise that :-)

 

Let me know how it goes.

 

BBJo

 

 

 

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Hi JoIt is the flowers... and that was the walk that we went on :)BBPeter- "heartwerk" <jo.heartwork >Monday, April 06, 2009 7:36 AM Re: back to the veges> Hi Peter>> Check well to see which parts - I can find reference only to the flowers > being edible.>> http://www.selfsufficientish.com/index.php/wild-foods/186-wild-food-in-the-st-werburghs-area-of-bristol-uk-by-andy-aamp-dave-hamilton-and-fergus-drennan>> Jo>> , Peter Kebbell <metalscarab wrote:>>>> I've never tried it, but I have heard (from a reliable source) that >> holyhock>> works really well as an egg substitute. When it's holyhock season, I'll >> be>> giving it a go!>>>> BB>> Peter>>>> 2009/4/4 <yarrow>>>> > At 4:05 AM +0000 4/4/09, Katie wrote:>> > >I have one recipe that I can add every thing to no matter what but I>> > >have no idea how to replaces the egg or milk.>> > >>> >>> > For cow's milk, you can substitute soymilk, rice milk, almond milk,>> > etc. Or, depending on the recipe and your taste, water or fruit juice!>> >>> > If the egg is being used as a leavening agent (to make it rise), you>> > can add up to 1 tablespoon of baking powder, and add some liquid to>> > make up for the egg. Or instead of adding rice milk, you can add a>> > tablespoon or two of flaxseed mixed in a quarter cup of water (IIRC,>> > that's the substitution per egg), which makes baked goods lighter in>> > texture. The flax in water also develops that viscous (slimy) texture>> > after it sits for a few minutes. I don't think I've tried using flax>> > without the baking powder.>> >>> > If the egg is used as a binding agent, you can use anything moist>> > with some texture -- banana, applesauce, prune paste (there used to>> > be a prune paste on the market called "light bake" that was intended>> > to substitute for egg in baked goods), pumpkin, baked winter squash,>> > etc. I've even adapted a recipe for pumpkin muffins to use cooked>> > nettles. (I have a bumper crop of celery this week that I need to>> > pick before it bolts, and I'm thinking... celery muffins? I'll have>> > to think about what else goes with celery. Maybe walnuts.)>> >>> > I've done a lot of experimenting with recipes to use what I have on>> > hand and to simplify the list of ingredients, and what I've learned>> > is that you have to keep the moist/dry ratio in mind, more or less.>> > But I've had great results from watery batters and from very stiff>> > batters! I find muffins are very amenable to improvisation.>> >>> > I always reduce the amount of sugar (or add chocolate chips and>> > eliminate sweeteners entirely), and replace oil with another liquid>> > (rice milk, etc.). I like to use paper liners in the muffin pans>> > because it saves so much time -- no need to oil the pan, ease the>> > muffins out, wash the pan.>> >>> > I don't even pay much attention to cooking times. Generally I start>> > checking after about 20 minutes or so for regular-size muffins. If a>> > toothpick comes out clean, it's done. If not, I wait a few more>> > minutes and check again -- ideally, at 2-minute intervals, but>> > usually I don't watch the clock and just wait until they smell like>> > they're done.>> >>> >>> > --->> >>> > To send an email to -!>> > Groups Links>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> --->> To send an email to > -

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Hi JoAh - will do! :)BBPeter2009/4/6 jo.heartwork <jo.heartwork

 

Hi Peter

 

I meant let me know how the hollyhock flowers go, when you try them :-)

 

BBJo

 

 

-

 

Peter Kebbell

 

Monday, April 06, 2009 6:00 PM

Re: Re: back to the veges

 

 

Hi JoIt went on about 6 months ago! Was very interesting :-)BBPeter

2009/4/6 jo.heartwork <jo.heartwork

 

Hi Peter

 

How weird - saw it was in Bristol, but didn't realise that :-)

 

Let me know how it goes.

 

BBJo

 

 

 

-

Peter

 

 

 

Monday, April 06, 2009 10:03 AM

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Hi JoIt is the flowers... and that was the walk that we went on :)BBPeter- " heartwerk " <jo.heartwork

Monday, April 06, 2009 7:36 AM Re: back to the veges> Hi Peter>> Check well to see which parts - I can find reference only to the flowers > being edible.>> http://www.selfsufficientish.com/index.php/wild-foods/186-wild-food-in-the-st-werburghs-area-of-bristol-uk-by-andy-aamp-dave-hamilton-and-fergus-drennan

>> Jo>> , Peter Kebbell <metalscarab wrote:>>>> I've never tried it, but I have heard (from a reliable source) that >> holyhock>> works really well as an egg substitute. When it's holyhock season, I'll >> be>> giving it a go!>>>> BB>> Peter>>>> 2009/4/4 <yarrow>>>> > At 4:05 AM +0000 4/4/09, Katie wrote:>> > >I have one recipe that I can add every thing to no matter what but I>> > >have no idea how to replaces the egg or milk.>> > >>> >>> > For cow's milk, you can substitute soymilk, rice milk, almond milk,>> > etc. Or, depending on the recipe and your taste, water or fruit juice!>> >>> > If the egg is being used as a leavening agent (to make it rise), you>> > can add up to 1 tablespoon of baking powder, and add some liquid to>> > make up for the egg. Or instead of adding rice milk, you can add a>> > tablespoon or two of flaxseed mixed in a quarter cup of water (IIRC,>> > that's the substitution per egg), which makes baked goods lighter in>> > texture. The flax in water also develops that viscous (slimy) texture>> > after it sits for a few minutes. I don't think I've tried using flax>> > without the baking powder.>> >>> > If the egg is used as a binding agent, you can use anything moist>> > with some texture -- banana, applesauce, prune paste (there used to>> > be a prune paste on the market called " light bake " that was intended>> > to substitute for egg in baked goods), pumpkin, baked winter squash,>> > etc. I've even adapted a recipe for pumpkin muffins to use cooked>> > nettles. (I have a bumper crop of celery this week that I need to>> > pick before it bolts, and I'm thinking... celery muffins? I'll have>> > to think about what else goes with celery. Maybe walnuts.)>> >>> > I've done a lot of experimenting with recipes to use what I have on>> > hand and to simplify the list of ingredients, and what I've learned>> > is that you have to keep the moist/dry ratio in mind, more or less.>> > But I've had great results from watery batters and from very stiff>> > batters! I find muffins are very amenable to improvisation.>> >>> > I always reduce the amount of sugar (or add chocolate chips and>> > eliminate sweeteners entirely), and replace oil with another liquid>> > (rice milk, etc.). I like to use paper liners in the muffin pans>> > because it saves so much time -- no need to oil the pan, ease the>> > muffins out, wash the pan.>> >>> > I don't even pay much attention to cooking times. Generally I start>> > checking after about 20 minutes or so for regular-size muffins. If a>> > toothpick comes out clean, it's done. If not, I wait a few more>> > minutes and check again -- ideally, at 2-minute intervals, but>> > usually I don't watch the clock and just wait until they smell like>> > they're done.>> >>> >>> > --->> >>> > To send an email to -!>> > Groups Links>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> --->> To send an email to > -! Groups Links>>>

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I use either mashed ripe bananas or stewed apples. I guess you could also use

finely grated fresh apples. To make it rise you will need to use some baking

powder.

 

 

, " Katie " <east_watch wrote:

>

> thank you that would be splendid.

>

> I have one recipe that I can add every thing to no matter what but I have no

idea how to replaces the egg or milk.

>

> if I can do that it will fix the problem.

>

> pleas help

>

> katie )O(

>

> , yarrow@ wrote:

> >

> > At 7:31 PM +0000 4/1/09, Katie wrote:

> > >I am sorry if I started a ruckus in here with my faith I did not

> > >mean to. could I get some resupies from you guys like all purpose

> > >muffins and cookies?

> > >

> >

> > I have some less-sweet muffin recipes. Usually I start with a

> > published recipe and experiment with taking out the sweeteners and

> > added oils, and see what I can substitute based on what I have on

> > hand. I can send some recipes if that sounds like what you might want.

> >

> > Otherwise, I like the muffin/cupcake recipes from theppk (is it .com

> > or .org or .net?).

> >

> > I also have a recipe for a thumbprint tahini cookie that has marmalade on

top.

> >

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I would be interested in the results too. I wonder how many flowers you will

need. Can you use any hollyhock flowers?

 

 

, Peter Kebbell <metalscarab wrote:

>

> Hi Jo

>

> Ah - will do! :)

>

> BB

> Peter

>

> 2009/4/6 jo.heartwork <jo.heartwork

>

> > Hi Peter

> >

> > I meant let me know how the hollyhock flowers go, when you try them :-)

> >

> > BB

> > Jo

> >

> >

> > -

> > ** Peter Kebbell <metalscarab

> > *To:*

> > *Sent:* Monday, April 06, 2009 6:00 PM

> > *Subject:* Re: Re: back to the veges

> >

> > Hi Jo

> >

> > It went on about 6 months ago! Was very interesting :-)

> >

> > BB

> > Peter

> >

> > 2009/4/6 jo.heartwork <jo.heartwork

> >

> >> Hi Peter

> >>

> >> How weird - saw it was in Bristol, but didn't realise that :-)

> >>

> >> Let me know how it goes.

> >>

> >> BB

> >> Jo

> >>

> >>

> >> -

> >> ** Peter <metalscarab

> >> *To:*

> >> *Sent:* Monday, April 06, 2009 10:03 AM

> >> *Subject:* Re: Re: back to the veges

> >>

> >> Hi Jo

> >>

> >> It is the flowers... and that was the walk that we went on :)

> >>

> >> BB

> >> Peter

> >>

> >> -

> >> " heartwerk " <jo.heartwork

> >>

> >> Monday, April 06, 2009 7:36 AM

> >> Re: back to the veges

> >>

> >> > Hi Peter

> >> >

> >> > Check well to see which parts - I can find reference only to the flowers

> >>

> >> > being edible.

> >> >

> >> >

> >>

http://www.selfsufficientish.com/index.php/wild-foods/186-wild-food-in-the-st-we\

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> >> >

> >> > Jo

> >> >

> >> > <%40>, Peter

> >> Kebbell <metalscarab@> wrote:

> >> >>

> >> >> I've never tried it, but I have heard (from a reliable source) that

> >> >> holyhock

> >> >> works really well as an egg substitute. When it's holyhock season, I'll

> >>

> >> >> be

> >> >> giving it a go!

> >> >>

> >> >> BB

> >> >> Peter

> >> >>

> >> >> 2009/4/4 <yarrow@>

> >> >>

> >> >> > At 4:05 AM +0000 4/4/09, Katie wrote:

> >> >> > >I have one recipe that I can add every thing to no matter what but I

> >> >> > >have no idea how to replaces the egg or milk.

> >> >> > >

> >> >> >

> >> >> > For cow's milk, you can substitute soymilk, rice milk, almond milk,

> >> >> > etc. Or, depending on the recipe and your taste, water or fruit

> >> juice!

> >> >> >

> >> >> > If the egg is being used as a leavening agent (to make it rise), you

> >> >> > can add up to 1 tablespoon of baking powder, and add some liquid to

> >> >> > make up for the egg. Or instead of adding rice milk, you can add a

> >> >> > tablespoon or two of flaxseed mixed in a quarter cup of water (IIRC,

> >> >> > that's the substitution per egg), which makes baked goods lighter in

> >> >> > texture. The flax in water also develops that viscous (slimy) texture

> >> >> > after it sits for a few minutes. I don't think I've tried using flax

> >> >> > without the baking powder.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > If the egg is used as a binding agent, you can use anything moist

> >> >> > with some texture -- banana, applesauce, prune paste (there used to

> >> >> > be a prune paste on the market called " light bake " that was intended

> >> >> > to substitute for egg in baked goods), pumpkin, baked winter squash,

> >> >> > etc. I've even adapted a recipe for pumpkin muffins to use cooked

> >> >> > nettles. (I have a bumper crop of celery this week that I need to

> >> >> > pick before it bolts, and I'm thinking... celery muffins? I'll have

> >> >> > to think about what else goes with celery. Maybe walnuts.)

> >> >> >

> >> >> > I've done a lot of experimenting with recipes to use what I have on

> >> >> > hand and to simplify the list of ingredients, and what I've learned

> >> >> > is that you have to keep the moist/dry ratio in mind, more or less.

> >> >> > But I've had great results from watery batters and from very stiff

> >> >> > batters! I find muffins are very amenable to improvisation.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > I always reduce the amount of sugar (or add chocolate chips and

> >> >> > eliminate sweeteners entirely), and replace oil with another liquid

> >> >> > (rice milk, etc.). I like to use paper liners in the muffin pans

> >> >> > because it saves so much time -- no need to oil the pan, ease the

> >> >> > muffins out, wash the pan.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > I don't even pay much attention to cooking times. Generally I start

> >> >> > checking after about 20 minutes or so for regular-size muffins. If a

> >> >> > toothpick comes out clean, it's done. If not, I wait a few more

> >> >> > minutes and check again -- ideally, at 2-minute intervals, but

> >> >> > usually I don't watch the clock and just wait until they smell like

> >> >> > they're done.

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> > ---

> >> >> >

> >> >> > To send an email to -@!

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> >> >> >

> >> >> >

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> >>

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I assume so... I'll let you know when I've tried it :)

 

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>I would be interested in the results too. I wonder how many flowers you

>will need. Can you use any hollyhock flowers?

>

>

> , Peter Kebbell <metalscarab wrote:

>>

>> Hi Jo

>>

>> Ah - will do! :)

>>

>> BB

>> Peter

>>

>> 2009/4/6 jo.heartwork <jo.heartwork

>>

>> > Hi Peter

>> >

>> > I meant let me know how the hollyhock flowers go, when you try them :-)

>> >

>> > BB

>> > Jo

>> >

>> >

>> > -

>> > ** Peter Kebbell <metalscarab

>> > *To:*

>> > *Sent:* Monday, April 06, 2009 6:00 PM

>> > *Subject:* Re: Re: back to the veges

>> >

>> > Hi Jo

>> >

>> > It went on about 6 months ago! Was very interesting :-)

>> >

>> > BB

>> > Peter

>> >

>> > 2009/4/6 jo.heartwork <jo.heartwork

>> >

>> >> Hi Peter

>> >>

>> >> How weird - saw it was in Bristol, but didn't realise that :-)

>> >>

>> >> Let me know how it goes.

>> >>

>> >> BB

>> >> Jo

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> -

>> >> ** Peter <metalscarab

>> >> *To:*

>> >> *Sent:* Monday, April 06, 2009 10:03 AM

>> >> *Subject:* Re: Re: back to the veges

>> >>

>> >> Hi Jo

>> >>

>> >> It is the flowers... and that was the walk that we went on :)

>> >>

>> >> BB

>> >> Peter

>> >>

>> >> -

>> >> " heartwerk " <jo.heartwork

>> >>

>> >> Monday, April 06, 2009 7:36 AM

>> >> Re: back to the veges

>> >>

>> >> > Hi Peter

>> >> >

>> >> > Check well to see which parts - I can find reference only to the

>> >> > flowers

>> >>

>> >> > being edible.

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >>

http://www.selfsufficientish.com/index.php/wild-foods/186-wild-food-in-the-st-we\

rburghs-area-of-bristol-uk-by-andy-aamp-dave-hamilton-and-fergus-drennan

>> >> >

>> >> > Jo

>> >> >

>> >> > <%40>,

>> >> > Peter

>> >> Kebbell <metalscarab@> wrote:

>> >> >>

>> >> >> I've never tried it, but I have heard (from a reliable source) that

>> >> >> holyhock

>> >> >> works really well as an egg substitute. When it's holyhock season,

>> >> >> I'll

>> >>

>> >> >> be

>> >> >> giving it a go!

>> >> >>

>> >> >> BB

>> >> >> Peter

>> >> >>

>> >> >> 2009/4/4 <yarrow@>

>> >> >>

>> >> >> > At 4:05 AM +0000 4/4/09, Katie wrote:

>> >> >> > >I have one recipe that I can add every thing to no matter what

>> >> >> > >but I

>> >> >> > >have no idea how to replaces the egg or milk.

>> >> >> > >

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > For cow's milk, you can substitute soymilk, rice milk, almond

>> >> >> > milk,

>> >> >> > etc. Or, depending on the recipe and your taste, water or fruit

>> >> juice!

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > If the egg is being used as a leavening agent (to make it rise),

>> >> >> > you

>> >> >> > can add up to 1 tablespoon of baking powder, and add some liquid

>> >> >> > to

>> >> >> > make up for the egg. Or instead of adding rice milk, you can add

>> >> >> > a

>> >> >> > tablespoon or two of flaxseed mixed in a quarter cup of water

>> >> >> > (IIRC,

>> >> >> > that's the substitution per egg), which makes baked goods lighter

>> >> >> > in

>> >> >> > texture. The flax in water also develops that viscous (slimy)

>> >> >> > texture

>> >> >> > after it sits for a few minutes. I don't think I've tried using

>> >> >> > flax

>> >> >> > without the baking powder.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > If the egg is used as a binding agent, you can use anything moist

>> >> >> > with some texture -- banana, applesauce, prune paste (there used

>> >> >> > to

>> >> >> > be a prune paste on the market called " light bake " that was

>> >> >> > intended

>> >> >> > to substitute for egg in baked goods), pumpkin, baked winter

>> >> >> > squash,

>> >> >> > etc. I've even adapted a recipe for pumpkin muffins to use cooked

>> >> >> > nettles. (I have a bumper crop of celery this week that I need to

>> >> >> > pick before it bolts, and I'm thinking... celery muffins? I'll

>> >> >> > have

>> >> >> > to think about what else goes with celery. Maybe walnuts.)

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > I've done a lot of experimenting with recipes to use what I have

>> >> >> > on

>> >> >> > hand and to simplify the list of ingredients, and what I've

>> >> >> > learned

>> >> >> > is that you have to keep the moist/dry ratio in mind, more or

>> >> >> > less.

>> >> >> > But I've had great results from watery batters and from very

>> >> >> > stiff

>> >> >> > batters! I find muffins are very amenable to improvisation.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > I always reduce the amount of sugar (or add chocolate chips and

>> >> >> > eliminate sweeteners entirely), and replace oil with another

>> >> >> > liquid

>> >> >> > (rice milk, etc.). I like to use paper liners in the muffin pans

>> >> >> > because it saves so much time -- no need to oil the pan, ease the

>> >> >> > muffins out, wash the pan.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > I don't even pay much attention to cooking times. Generally I

>> >> >> > start

>> >> >> > checking after about 20 minutes or so for regular-size muffins.

>> >> >> > If a

>> >> >> > toothpick comes out clean, it's done. If not, I wait a few more

>> >> >> > minutes and check again -- ideally, at 2-minute intervals, but

>> >> >> > usually I don't watch the clock and just wait until they smell

>> >> >> > like

>> >> >> > they're done.

>> >> >> >

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