Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 I am not a scientist but have always read a lot of research on nutrition and health matters. I have plenty of saved articles on the matter, but not the time to trawl through them to present on demand. There are many reports on soy on the internet, and I am sure you will easily come across the alternative view to the one you present. Soy and tofu have been eaten for a long time in many countries, and their populations are no less healthy than we are, and they have no more problems with cancers, fertility etc. Population studies are often the best. Are you a scientist? Jo , " lhundrup108 " <lhundrup108 wrote: > > Jo- > > I am wondering where you have done your research? Are you a scientist? Do you have some research done by one? > > Here is a post from Yale reseach lab and it states that there is a link, but the study is inconclusive. > > Tofu and estrogen > I have been eating tofu regularly as a low-fat source of protein. However I have heard that tofu contains estrogen and that if you eat it regularly, it can lead to increased risk of breast cancer. I am a female in her 30s. Is this true? > Add a Reply > > > > > Amy. > > Replies: > > > Y > > Soy and Breast Cancer - from: Lisa MS, RD > > The impact of soy on breast cancer remains controversial. Soy products contain isoflavones which are naturally occurring weak estrogens called phytoestrogens. Phytoestrogens have properties similar to estrogen. There is conflicting scientific information regarding the impact of soy on breast cancer. Some studies suggest that the weak estrogen activity caused by consuming soy-based products may have a harmful affect in those individuals that have estrogen-sensitive cancer cells. Researchers suggest that moderate consumption of soy foods, 2-3 ounces a day, is an acceptable addition to a well-balanced diet that is also rich in complex carbohydrates, fruits and vegetables. Soy supplements, which contain high concentrations of isoflavones, may be harmful and are not recommended. For more information, visit American Cancer Society. > > In summary, tofu is an excellent source of protein, fiber, B vitamins, calcium and essential fatty acids. Moderate consumption of tofu has not been proven to be harmful. A diet including a wide variety of foods is most healthful. > > > , " jo.heartwork " <jo.heartwork@> wrote: > > > > This one comes up from time to time, and basically is completely untrue. As > > far as hormone health is concerned, tofu is good for you. > > > > > > > > Jo > > > > > > > > On > > Behalf Of yarrow@ > > 21 January 2010 02:49 > > > > Re: soy, was Re: Greetings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lhundrup108 > > > > Jan 20, 2010 5:10 PM > > > > I have heard recently a medical report that girls in china undergo puberty > > at an extremely early age. It may be due to the high estrogen intake from > > tofu which they eat a lot of I guess. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > One, there's no estrogen in tofu. > > > > > > > > Two, the only reports of early puberty I've " heard of " were from places > > where there was high intake of dead hormone-laced chickens. > > > > > > > > Really, if you're interested in health, go browse the > > http://www.drmcdougall.com/ website. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Ummm.... I would just like to point out that my wife *is* a scientist (biologist), and she agrees with Jo! :-)BBPeter2010/1/22 heartwerk <jo.heartwork I am not a scientist but have always read a lot of research on nutrition and health matters. I have plenty of saved articles on the matter, but not the time to trawl through them to present on demand. There are many reports on soy on the internet, and I am sure you will easily come across the alternative view to the one you present. Soy and tofu have been eaten for a long time in many countries, and their populations are no less healthy than we are, and they have no more problems with cancers, fertility etc. Population studies are often the best. Are you a scientist? Jo , " lhundrup108 " <lhundrup108 wrote: > > Jo- > > I am wondering where you have done your research? Are you a scientist? Do you have some research done by one? > > Here is a post from Yale reseach lab and it states that there is a link, but the study is inconclusive. > > Tofu and estrogen > I have been eating tofu regularly as a low-fat source of protein. However I have heard that tofu contains estrogen and that if you eat it regularly, it can lead to increased risk of breast cancer. I am a female in her 30s. Is this true? > Add a Reply > > > > > Amy. > > Replies: > > > Y > > Soy and Breast Cancer - from: Lisa MS, RD > > The impact of soy on breast cancer remains controversial. Soy products contain isoflavones which are naturally occurring weak estrogens called phytoestrogens. Phytoestrogens have properties similar to estrogen. There is conflicting scientific information regarding the impact of soy on breast cancer. Some studies suggest that the weak estrogen activity caused by consuming soy-based products may have a harmful affect in those individuals that have estrogen-sensitive cancer cells. Researchers suggest that moderate consumption of soy foods, 2-3 ounces a day, is an acceptable addition to a well-balanced diet that is also rich in complex carbohydrates, fruits and vegetables. Soy supplements, which contain high concentrations of isoflavones, may be harmful and are not recommended. For more information, visit American Cancer Society. > > In summary, tofu is an excellent source of protein, fiber, B vitamins, calcium and essential fatty acids. Moderate consumption of tofu has not been proven to be harmful. A diet including a wide variety of foods is most healthful. > > > , " jo.heartwork " <jo.heartwork@> wrote: > > > > This one comes up from time to time, and basically is completely untrue. As > > far as hormone health is concerned, tofu is good for you. > > > > > > > > Jo > > > > > > > > On > > Behalf Of yarrow@ > > 21 January 2010 02:49 > > > > Re: soy, was Re: Greetings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lhundrup108 > > > > Jan 20, 2010 5:10 PM > > > > I have heard recently a medical report that girls in china undergo puberty > > at an extremely early age. It may be due to the high estrogen intake from > > tofu which they eat a lot of I guess. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > One, there's no estrogen in tofu. > > > > > > > > Two, the only reports of early puberty I've " heard of " were from places > > where there was high intake of dead hormone-laced chickens. > > > > > > > > Really, if you're interested in health, go browse the > > http://www.drmcdougall.com/ website. > > > --- To send an email to -! Groups Links <*> / <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: /join ( ID required) <*> To change settings via email: -digest -fullfeatured <*> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 I thought it was the other way around. Body fat is the important factor.Patricia--- On Wed, 1/20/10, fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote:fraggle <EBbrewpunxRe: soy, was Re: Greetings Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 4:58 PM nah... Soy has been a backbone of asian doets for thousands of years. my guess its more due to low weight gain early in life. if you are underweight early in life, then you hit puberty earlier. lhundrup108 Jan 20, 2010 5:10 PM soy, was Re: Greetings I have heard recently a medical report that girls in china undergo puberty at an extremely early age. It may be due to the high estrogen intake from tofu which they eat a lot of I guess.what do you think about that?@gro ups.com, yarrow wrote:>> At 3:10 PM -0500 1/20/10, fraggle wrote:> Soy...just like any other food, or anything really, its all about > moderation. soybeans have been in asia for thousands of years. there > is nothing wrong with the lil ol soybean. now, stripped down isolated > soy protein is a different matter entirely. its like calling a > twinkie "healthy whole wheat bread"> >>> > Also, don't believe everything you read online:). Most of the stuff > on the net that disses soy originated with the vegan-hating, > lard-eating wapf (weston a. price fdn.), which regularly floods the > net with misinformation on selected topics. They place their articles > on sites and in newsletters that have "natural" or "health" in the > names, under many different names, but their "warnings" include lots > of CAPITALIZATION (=shouting) and have an overall hysterical tone. A > good rule of thumb is that if your source can be traced back to wapf, > mercola, fallon, etc., it's probably wrong.> > A great resource for "fair and balanced" nutrition and health information is> http://www.drmcdoug all.com/> > and a good discussion of soy is at> > http://www.drmcdoug all.com/misc/ 2005nl/april/ 050400pusoy. htm> I thoughYou're just jealous because the voices only talk to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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