Guest guest Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Here we go again.Patriciahttp://health./featured/80/5-bad-foods-that-are-actually-healthy/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 Beef? Pizza? Cheese?Whut? O_O Who pays for these studies?Oh yeah, the dairy and meat industries. *facepalm*On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Patricia <moondreamer64_2000 wrote: Here we go again.Patriciahttp://health./featured/80/5-bad-foods-that-are-actually-healthy/ -- AIM: A Blue Rose 156 YM: blue_rose_156http://x-bluerose-x.livejournal.comhttp://timeladydesigns.etsy.com ~Boston_GothicBoston_MysticBoston-Pagans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 methinks the beef, dairy and fast food lobby have a tad more money to throw around then the pea (zinc)or tomato (lycopene) farmer Blue Rose Feb 14, 2010 10:07 PM Re: 5 Bad Foods That are Actually Healthy on Health Beef? Pizza? Cheese?Whut? O_O Who pays for these studies?Oh yeah, the dairy and meat industries. *facepalm* On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Patricia <moondreamer64_2000 > wrote: Here we go again.Patricia http://health./featured/80/5-bad-foods-that-are-actually-healthy/ -- AIM: A Blue Rose 156 YM: blue_rose_156http://x-bluerose-x.livejournal.comhttp://timeladydesigns.etsy.com~Boston_GothicBoston_MysticBoston-Pagans You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 My husband and many of my friends have noted that their places of employment have implemented a " biggest loser " campagne in an effort to contribute to reducing the obesity epidemic that plagues our country. How do any of these poor people expect to shed the heart-clogging cellulite when this kind of trash is being slewn about like confetti, peppering the media. It would be really nice if, for once, these corporations would take responsibility for themselves and put disclaimers out there like the alcohol and tobacco industries have to do. I'd be tickled to see, " Yummy and great tasting blah blah blah. This product can cause heart disease, diabetes, cancer, tumors, seizures, thyroid disorders, parasites, depression, attention disorders, eczema, and excess weight gain so please eat responsibly. " Katie , Patricia <moondreamer64_2000 wrote: > > Here we go again. > > Patricia http://health./featured/80/5-bad-foods-that-are-actually-healthy/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 Hi Katie It is a shame that these half-truths get published (ice cream does contain calcium, beef does contain zinc). I do feel though that it is up to people to find out about what they should and shouldn't eat. People must take a certain amount of responsibility for what they do to themselves. Jo , " Katie " <greenrootsmama wrote: > > My husband and many of my friends have noted that their places of employment have implemented a " biggest loser " campagne in an effort to contribute to reducing the obesity epidemic that plagues our country. How do any of these poor people expect to shed the heart-clogging cellulite when this kind of trash is being slewn about like confetti, peppering the media. It would be really nice if, for once, these corporations would take responsibility for themselves and put disclaimers out there like the alcohol and tobacco industries have to do. I'd be tickled to see, " Yummy and great tasting blah blah blah. This product can cause heart disease, diabetes, cancer, tumors, seizures, thyroid disorders, parasites, depression, attention disorders, eczema, and excess weight gain so please eat responsibly. " > > Katie > > > , Patricia <moondreamer64_2000@> wrote: > > > > Here we go again. > > > > Patricia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://health./featured/80/5-bad-foods-that-are-actually-healthy/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 At 8:00 AM +0000 2/15/10, heartwerk wrote: >I do feel though that it is up to people to find out about what they >should and shouldn't eat. People must take a certain amount of >responsibility for what they do to themselves. > Of course that's true, but often people don't understand that they have a choice. Everything in mainstream media is slanted in favor of the corporations that own and advertise in that media. At least 20 years after the Diet for a Small Planet book said you *don't* have to " balance proteins, " the media is still quoting from the 30-year-old version and telling veg*ns to be careful to get " enough " protein. In the U.S., the government's recommendations on nutrition are *still* heavily influenced by the meatdairy lobbies. And it's even worse now with the internet, because people can google sites that support whatever wacky opinion they have or whatever self-destructive foodlike-substance-eating habit they have. I've found it's not " safe " to mention veganism on other lists or forums because invariably some wapf troll will start ranting. Anyway, it's a good thing that this list exists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 I used to feel this way about many areas of concern to me in my life. When I was having my babies I couldn't believe how many other pregnant women were so naive about the physiology of their own bodies, not to mention the myriad of choices they would have to face once that baby was born. None of these women had researched their doctors or hospitals, none had delved into the controversy surrounding circumcision, immunizations, and formula. Likewise, they had no clue of the dangers posed by the chemicals present in the products they were about to use on their beautiful newborns: BP-A, disposable diapers, diaper cream, sun screen, baby wash, etc. The problem is that these people have placed ALL their faith in their almighty doctors who are just as naive and ignorant. The medical profession as a whole is controlled by such entities as the CDC and FDA which are funded by the pharmacutical industry and the industry that mass-produces toxic food. I feel this way about food, hygeine products, household cleaners, religion, politics, education, toys, television content, medicine, global warming, etc. The list is only limited by my imagination. I couldn't understand why or how anyone could possibly believe that these institutions still provide unbiased protection to us. But then it was pointed out to me that not everyone is set up to be analytical and suspicious. Nor do they even know how to research these topics. We are the people who take responsibility for our own lives, from our health to the businesses to which we choose to give our money. There are a few people who are close to me who rely on me to research points of interest to them. And I oblige because I believe that everyone should at least sample a taste the forbidden fruit of knowledge. On the bright side, natural selection will eventually eliminate those who are incapable of taking responsibility for themselves by way of cancers and diseases. Unfortunately it may take a while. Sorry about the can of worms. These subjects are a source of passion for me, LOL. Katie , " heartwerk " <jo.heartwork wrote: > > Hi Katie > > It is a shame that these half-truths get published (ice cream does contain calcium, beef does contain zinc). > > I do feel though that it is up to people to find out about what they should and shouldn't eat. People must take a certain amount of responsibility for what they do to themselves. > > Jo > > , " Katie " greenrootsmama@ wrote: > > > > My husband and many of my friends have noted that their places of employment have implemented a " biggest loser " campagne in an effort to contribute to reducing the obesity epidemic that plagues our country. How do any of these poor people expect to shed the heart-clogging cellulite when this kind of trash is being slewn about like confetti, peppering the media. It would be really nice if, for once, these corporations would take responsibility for themselves and put disclaimers out there like the alcohol and tobacco industries have to do. I'd be tickled to see, " Yummy and great tasting blah blah blah. This product can cause heart disease, diabetes, cancer, tumors, seizures, thyroid disorders, parasites, depression, attention disorders, eczema, and excess weight gain so please eat responsibly. " > > > > Katie > > > > > > , Patricia <moondreamer64_2000@> wrote: > > > > > > Here we go again. > > > > > > Patricia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://health./featured/80/5-bad-foods-that-are-actually-health\ y/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 the problem i see it tho is, its an overload on folks. the media is constantly full of "this is bad for you! don't eat it!no, a new studdy sez widgets are actually good for!todays top story, eating widgets linked to possible toenail cancerthis just in, widgets are a great source of vitamin W and titanium, now here's Bill with the action weather forecast" all you need is one lobby funded "study" to throw the whole ball of wax into turmoil. IMO, most ppl just want to eat what they like, and don't want to think about it overly. if it was bad for you, well, then the government would do something about it. and they move on. easier that way fraggle heartwerk Feb 15, 2010 3:00 AM Re: 5 Bad Foods That are Actually Healthy on Health Hi KatieIt is a shame that these half-truths get published (ice cream does contain calcium, beef does contain zinc).I do feel though that it is up to people to find out about what they should and shouldn't eat. People must take a certain amount of responsibility for what they do to themselves.Jo , "Katie" <greenrootsmama wrote:>> My husband and many of my friends have noted that their places of employment have implemented a "biggest loser" campagne in an effort to contribute to reducing the obesity epidemic that plagues our country. How do any of these poor people expect to shed the heart-clogging cellulite when this kind of trash is being slewn about like confetti, peppering the media. It would be really nice if, for once, these corporations would take responsibility for themselves and put disclaimers out there like the alcohol and tobacco industries have to do. I'd be tickled to see, "Yummy and great tasting blah blah blah. This product can cause heart disease, diabetes, cancer, tumors, seizures, thyroid disorders, parasites, depression, attention disorders, eczema, and excess weight gain so please eat responsibly."> > Katie> > > , Patricia <moondreamer64_2000@> wrote:> >> > Here we go again.> > > > Patricia> > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://health./featured/80/5-bad-foods-that-are-actually-healthy/> >> You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 If folks want to lose weight, i have an excellent suggestion for them start yer own business. i've barely eaten anything in the week we've been open. if i don't lose weight now, i never will! Katie Feb 15, 2010 1:18 AM Re: 5 Bad Foods That are Actually Healthy on Health My husband and many of my friends have noted that their places of employment have implemented a "biggest loser" campagne in an effort to contribute to reducing the obesity epidemic that plagues our country. How do any of these poor people expect to shed the heart-clogging cellulite when this kind of trash is being slewn about like confetti, peppering the media. It would be really nice if, for once, these corporations would take responsibility for themselves and put disclaimers out there like the alcohol and tobacco industries have to do. I'd be tickled to see, "Yummy and great tasting blah blah blah. This product can cause heart disease, diabetes, cancer, tumors, seizures, thyroid disorders, parasites, depression, attention disorders, eczema, and excess weight gain so please eat responsibly."Katie , Patricia <moondreamer64_2000 wrote:>> Here we go again.> > Patricia> > > > > > > http://health./featured/80/5-bad-foods-that-are-actually-healthy/> You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 I guess it is different here in the UK. Although there is a bias in the media there is plenty of information available. Jo On Behalf Of yarrow 15 February 2010 09:13 Re: 5 Bad Foods That are Actually Healthy on Health At 8:00 AM +0000 2/15/10, heartwerk wrote: >I do feel though that it is up to people to find out about what they >should and shouldn't eat. People must take a certain amount of >responsibility for what they do to themselves. > Of course that's true, but often people don't understand that they have a choice. Everything in mainstream media is slanted in favor of the corporations that own and advertise in that media. At least 20 years after the Diet for a Small Planet book said you *don't* have to " balance proteins, " the media is still quoting from the 30-year-old version and telling veg*ns to be careful to get " enough " protein. In the U.S., the government's recommendations on nutrition are *still* heavily influenced by the meatdairy lobbies. And it's even worse now with the internet, because people can google sites that support whatever wacky opinion they have or whatever self-destructive foodlike-substance-eating habit they have. I've found it's not " safe " to mention veganism on other lists or forums because invariably some wapf troll will start ranting. Anyway, it's a good thing that this list exists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 Do most people there trust the government that much? Jo On Behalf Of fraggle 15 February 2010 18:11 Re: Re: 5 Bad Foods That are Actually Healthy on Health the problem i see it tho is, its an overload on folks. the media is constantly full of " this is bad for you! don't eat it! " " no, a new studdy sez widgets are actually good for! " " todays top story, eating widgets linked to possible toenail cancer " " this just in, widgets are a great source of vitamin W and titanium, now here's Bill with the action weather forecast " all you need is one lobby funded " study " to throw the whole ball of wax into turmoil. IMO, most ppl just want to eat what they like, and don't want to think about it overly. if it was bad for you, well, then the government would do something about it. and they move on. easier that way fraggle heartwerk Feb 15, 2010 3:00 AM Re: 5 Bad Foods That are Actually Healthy on Health Hi Katie It is a shame that these half-truths get published (ice cream does contain calcium, beef does contain zinc). I do feel though that it is up to people to find out about what they should and shouldn't eat. People must take a certain amount of responsibility for what they do to themselves. Jo , " Katie " <greenrootsmama wrote: > > My husband and many of my friends have noted that their places of employment have implemented a " biggest loser " campagne in an effort to contribute to reducing the obesity epidemic that plagues our country. How do any of these poor people expect to shed the heart-clogging cellulite when this kind of trash is being slewn about like confetti, peppering the media. It would be really nice if, for once, these corporations would take responsibility for themselves and put disclaimers out there like the alcohol and tobacco industries have to do. I'd be tickled to see, " Yummy and great tasting blah blah blah. This product can cause heart disease, diabetes, cancer, tumors, seizures, thyroid disorders, parasites, depression, attention disorders, eczema, and excess weight gain so please eat responsibly. " > > Katie > > > , Patricia <moondreamer64_2000@> wrote: > > > > Here we go again. > > > > Patricia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://health./featured/80/5-bad-foods-that-are-actually-healthy/ > > > You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 I feel like lately there has been more negativity on this stream of emails. Certainly dairy and animal products aren't as good for you as delicious fresh veggies and complex carbs mmm, but let's not go over board and promote bad dietary habits. Eating too little can be just as detrimental as eating the wrong types of foods. Often skipping meals can be even more dangerous. My boyfriend stuffs his face with all the meat and poultry he can get his hands on and he is in great shape because he eats enough for him and exercises. True who knows what his arteries look like haha, but the point is he's got tons of energy, feels great, and doesn't look too shabby either :-p. The point is personally I don't eat animal products because I don't believe they're good for me or anyone else, but I don't deprive myself of the food that I love and think is alright for me. I don't think anyone should. Take care of yourselves and eat clean! fraggle <EBbrewpunx Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 12:15:37 PMRe: Re: 5 Bad Foods That are Actually Healthy on Health If folks want to lose weight, i have an excellent suggestion for them start yer own business. i've barely eaten anything in the week we've been open. if i don't lose weight now, i never will! Katie Feb 15, 2010 1:18 AM @gro ups.com Re: 5 Bad Foods That are Actually Healthy on Health My husband and many of my friends have noted that their places of employment have implemented a "biggest loser" campagne in an effort to contribute to reducing the obesity epidemic that plagues our country. How do any of these poor people expect to shed the heart-clogging cellulite when this kind of trash is being slewn about like confetti, peppering the media. It would be really nice if, for once, these corporations would take responsibility for themselves and put disclaimers out there like the alcohol and tobacco industries have to do. I'd be tickled to see, "Yummy and great tasting blah blah blah. This product can cause heart disease, diabetes, cancer, tumors, seizures, thyroid disorders, parasites, depression, attention disorders, eczema, and excess weight gain so please eat responsibly. "Katie@gro ups.com, Patricia <moondreamer64_ 2000 wrote:>> Here we go again.> > Patricia> > > > > > > http://health. / featured/ 80/5-bad- foods-that- are-actually- healthy/> You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 no, but when it comes down to it, its a great excuse not to think about it. path of least resistance besides, easy to blame as well. "jo.heartwork" Feb 15, 2010 1:28 PM RE: Re: 5 Bad Foods That are Actually Healthy on Health Do most people there trust the government that much? Jo On Behalf Of fraggle15 February 2010 18:11 Subject: Re: Re: 5 Bad Foods That are Actually Healthy on Health the problem i see it tho is, its an overload on folks. the media is constantly full of "this is bad for you! don't eat it!no, a new studdy sez widgets are actually good for!todays top story, eating widgets linked to possible toenail cancerthis just in, widgets are a great source of vitamin W and titanium, now here's Bill with the action weather forecast" all you need is one lobby funded "study" to throw the whole ball of wax into turmoil. IMO, most ppl just want to eat what they like, and don't want to think about it overly. if it was bad for you, well, then the government would do something about it. and they move on. easier that way fraggle heartwerk Feb 15, 2010 3:00 AM Re: 5 Bad Foods That are Actually Healthy on Health Hi KatieIt is a shame that these half-truths get published (ice cream does contain calcium, beef does contain zinc).I do feel though that it is up to people to find out about what they should and shouldn't eat. People must take a certain amount of responsibility for what they do to themselves.Jo , "Katie" <greenrootsmama wrote:>> My husband and many of my friends have noted that their places of employment have implemented a "biggest loser" campagne in an effort to contribute to reducing the obesity epidemic that plagues our country. How do any of these poor people expect to shed the heart-clogging cellulite when this kind of trash is being slewn about like confetti, peppering the media. It would be really nice if, for once, these corporations would take responsibility for themselves and put disclaimers out there like the alcohol and tobacco industries have to do. I'd be tickled to see, "Yummy and great tasting blah blah blah. This product can cause heart disease, diabetes, cancer, tumors, seizures, thyroid disorders, parasites, depression, attention disorders, eczema, and excess weight gain so please eat responsibly."> > Katie> > > , Patricia <moondreamer64_2000@> wrote:> >> > Here we go again.> > > > Patricia> > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://health./featured/80/5-bad-foods-that-are-actually-healthy/> >> You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me! You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 i was making an ill attempt at humor Sarah Tomecek Feb 15, 2010 2:28 PM Re: Re: 5 Bad Foods That are Actually Healthy on Health I feel like lately there has been more negativity on this stream of emails. Certainly dairy and animal products aren't as good for you as delicious fresh veggies and complex carbs mmm, but let's not go over board and promote bad dietary habits. Eating too little can be just as detrimental as eating the wrong types of foods. Often skipping meals can be even more dangerous. My boyfriend stuffs his face with all the meat and poultry he can get his hands on and he is in great shape because he eats enough for him and exercises. True who knows what his arteries look like haha, but the point is he's got tons of energy, feels great, and doesn't look too shabby either :-p. The point is personally I don't eat animal products because I don't believe they're good for me or anyone else, but I don't deprive myself of the food that I love and think is alright for me. I don't think anyone should. Take care of yourselves and eat clean! fraggle <EBbrewpunx (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 12:15:37 PMRe: Re: 5 Bad Foods That are Actually Healthy on Health If folks want to lose weight, i have an excellent suggestion for them start yer own business. i've barely eaten anything in the week we've been open. if i don't lose weight now, i never will! Katie Feb 15, 2010 1:18 AM @gro ups.com Re: 5 Bad Foods That are Actually Healthy on Health My husband and many of my friends have noted that their places of employment have implemented a "biggest loser" campagne in an effort to contribute to reducing the obesity epidemic that plagues our country. How do any of these poor people expect to shed the heart-clogging cellulite when this kind of trash is being slewn about like confetti, peppering the media. It would be really nice if, for once, these corporations would take responsibility for themselves and put disclaimers out there like the alcohol and tobacco industries have to do. I'd be tickled to see, "Yummy and great tasting blah blah blah. This product can cause heart disease, diabetes, cancer, tumors, seizures, thyroid disorders, parasites, depression, attention disorders, eczema, and excess weight gain so please eat responsibly. "Katie@gro ups.com, Patricia <moondreamer64_ 2000 wrote:>> Here we go again.> > Patricia> > > > > > > http://health. / featured/ 80/5-bad- foods-that- are-actually- healthy/> You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me! You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 That's for sure.Patricia--- On Sun, 2/14/10, fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote:fraggle <EBbrewpunxRe: 5 Bad Foods That are Actually Healthy on Health Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 7:17 PM methinks the beef, dairy and fast food lobby have a tad more money to throw around then the pea (zinc)or tomato (lycopene) farmer Blue Rose Feb 14, 2010 10:07 PM Re: 5 Bad Foods That are Actually Healthy on Health Beef? Pizza? Cheese?Whut? O_O Who pays for these studies?Oh yeah, the dairy and meat industries. *facepalm* On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Patricia <moondreamer64_ 2000 > wrote: Here we go again.Patricia http://health. / featured/ 80/5-bad- foods-that- are-actually- healthy/ -- AIM: A Blue Rose 156 YM: blue_rose_156http://x-bluerose- x.livejournal. comhttp://timeladydesi gns.etsy. com~http://groups. / group/Boston_ Gothichttp://groups. / group/Boston_ Mystichttp://groups. / group/Boston- Pagans You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 That's something to consider, but will never happen, I'm afraid.Patricia--- On Sun, 2/14/10, Katie <greenrootsmama wrote:Katie <greenrootsmama Re: 5 Bad Foods That are Actually Healthy on Health Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 10:18 PMMy husband and many of my friends have noted that their places of employment have implemented a "biggest loser" campagne in an effort to contribute to reducing the obesity epidemic that plagues our country. How do any of these poor people expect to shed the heart-clogging cellulite when this kind of trash is being slewn about like confetti, peppering the media. It would be really nice if, for once, these corporations would take responsibility for themselves and put disclaimers out there like the alcohol and tobacco industries have to do. I'd be tickled to see, "Yummy and great tasting blah blah blah. This product can cause heart disease, diabetes, cancer, tumors, seizures, thyroid disorders, parasites, depression, attention disorders, eczema, and excess weight gain so please eat responsibly."Katie , Patricia <moondreamer64_2000 wrote:>> Here we go again.> > Patricia> > > > > > > http://health./featured/80/5-bad-foods-that-are-actually-healthy/>---To send an email to -! Groups Links<*> /<*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional<*> To change settings online go to: /join ( ID required)<*> To change settings via email: -digest -fullfeatured <*> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Fraggle's joke was funny. A little humor is necessary in the Vegan chat. Veganism is a serious subject because the people of this world are eating millions of murdered animals every day. Humor is good and hard to find in the vegan environment. Surely you don't think Fraggle was promoting starvation? Lighten up, we're all on the same side, right?........--- On Mon, 2/15/10, Sarah Tomecek <sarah.tomecek wrote: Sarah Tomecek <sarah.tomecekRe: Re: 5 Bad Foods That are Actually Healthy on Health Date: Monday, February 15, 2010, 11:28 AM I feel like lately there has been more negativity on this stream of emails. Certainly dairy and animal products aren't as good for you as delicious fresh veggies and complex carbs mmm, but let's not go over board and promote bad dietary habits. Eating too little can be just as detrimental as eating the wrong types of foods. Often skipping meals can be even more dangerous. My boyfriend stuffs his face with all the meat and poultry he can get his hands on and he is in great shape because he eats enough for him and exercises. True who knows what his arteries look like haha, but the point is he's got tons of energy, feels great, and doesn't look too shabby either :-p. The point is personally I don't eat animal products because I don't believe they're good for me or anyone else, but I don't deprive myself of the food that I love and think is alright for me. I don't think anyone should. Take care of yourselves and eat clean! fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.net>@gro ups.comMon, February 15, 2010 12:15:37 PMRe: Re: 5 Bad Foods That are Actually Healthy on Health If folks want to lose weight, i have an excellent suggestion for them start yer own business. i've barely eaten anything in the week we've been open. if i don't lose weight now, i never will! Katie Feb 15, 2010 1:18 AM @gro ups.com Re: 5 Bad Foods That are Actually Healthy on Health My husband and many of my friends have noted that their places of employment have implemented a "biggest loser" campagne in an effort to contribute to reducing the obesity epidemic that plagues our country. How do any of these poor people expect to shed the heart-clogging cellulite when this kind of trash is being slewn about like confetti, peppering the media. It would be really nice if, for once, these corporations would take responsibility for themselves and put disclaimers out there like the alcohol and tobacco industries have to do. I'd be tickled to see, "Yummy and great tasting blah blah blah. This product can cause heart disease, diabetes, cancer, tumors, seizures, thyroid disorders, parasites, depression, attention disorders, eczema, and excess weight gain so please eat responsibly. "Katie@gro ups.com, Patricia <moondreamer64_ 2000 wrote:>> Here we go again.> > Patricia> > > > > > > http://health. / featured/ 80/5-bad- foods-that- are-actually- healthy/> You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Right.Patricia--- On Tue, 2/16/10, EC <emgarri wrote:EC <emgarriRe: Re: 5 Bad Foods That are Actually Healthy on Health Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 8:57 AM Fraggle's joke was funny. A little humor is necessary in the Vegan chat. Veganism is a serious subject because the people of this world are eating millions of murdered animals every day. Humor is good and hard to find in the vegan environment. Surely you don't think Fraggle was promoting starvation? Lighten up, we're all on the same side, right?........--- On Mon, 2/15/10, Sarah Tomecek <sarah.tomecek wrote: Sarah Tomecek <sarah.tomecekRe: Re: 5 Bad Foods That are Actually Healthy on Health Date: Monday, February 15, 2010, 11:28 AM I feel like lately there has been more negativity on this stream of emails. Certainly dairy and animal products aren't as good for you as delicious fresh veggies and complex carbs mmm, but let's not go over board and promote bad dietary habits. Eating too little can be just as detrimental as eating the wrong types of foods. Often skipping meals can be even more dangerous. My boyfriend stuffs his face with all the meat and poultry he can get his hands on and he is in great shape because he eats enough for him and exercises. True who knows what his arteries look like haha, but the point is he's got tons of energy, feels great, and doesn't look too shabby either :-p. The point is personally I don't eat animal products because I don't believe they're good for me or anyone else, but I don't deprive myself of the food that I love and think is alright for me. I don't think anyone should. Take care of yourselves and eat clean! fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.net>@gro ups.comMon, February 15, 2010 12:15:37 PMRe: Re: 5 Bad Foods That are Actually Healthy on Health If folks want to lose weight, i have an excellent suggestion for them start yer own business. i've barely eaten anything in the week we've been open. if i don't lose weight now, i never will! Katie Feb 15, 2010 1:18 AM @gro ups.com Re: 5 Bad Foods That are Actually Healthy on Health My husband and many of my friends have noted that their places of employment have implemented a "biggest loser" campagne in an effort to contribute to reducing the obesity epidemic that plagues our country. How do any of these poor people expect to shed the heart-clogging cellulite when this kind of trash is being slewn about like confetti, peppering the media. It would be really nice if, for once, these corporations would take responsibility for themselves and put disclaimers out there like the alcohol and tobacco industries have to do. I'd be tickled to see, "Yummy and great tasting blah blah blah. This product can cause heart disease, diabetes, cancer, tumors, seizures, thyroid disorders, parasites, depression, attention disorders, eczema, and excess weight gain so please eat responsibly. "Katie@gro ups.com, Patricia <moondreamer64_ 2000 wrote:>> Here we go again.> > Patricia> > > > > > > http://health. / featured/ 80/5-bad- foods-that- are-actually- healthy/> You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Of course I agree we're all on the same side. I wasn't just addressing fraggle there was some criticism of another vegan chatters diet being too hefty earlier by someone else. I'm just saying we need to promote healthy eating and celebrate our good choices too. EC <emgarri Sent: Tue, February 16, 2010 10:57:36 AMRe: Re: 5 Bad Foods That are Actually Healthy on Health Fraggle's joke was funny. A little humor is necessary in the Vegan chat. Veganism is a serious subject because the people of this world are eating millions of murdered animals every day. Humor is good and hard to find in the vegan environment. Surely you don't think Fraggle was promoting starvation? Lighten up, we're all on the same side, right?...... ..--- On Mon, 2/15/10, Sarah Tomecek <sarah.tomecek@ > wrote: Sarah Tomecek <sarah.tomecek@ >Re: Re: 5 Bad Foods That are Actually Healthy on Health@gro ups.comMonday, February 15, 2010, 11:28 AM I feel like lately there has been more negativity on this stream of emails. Certainly dairy and animal products aren't as good for you as delicious fresh veggies and complex carbs mmm, but let's not go over board and promote bad dietary habits. Eating too little can be just as detrimental as eating the wrong types of foods. Often skipping meals can be even more dangerous. My boyfriend stuffs his face with all the meat and poultry he can get his hands on and he is in great shape because he eats enough for him and exercises. True who knows what his arteries look like haha, but the point is he's got tons of energy, feels great, and doesn't look too shabby either :-p. The point is personally I don't eat animal products because I don't believe they're good for me or anyone else, but I don't deprive myself of the food that I love and think is alright for me. I don't think anyone should. Take care of yourselves and eat clean! fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.net>@gro ups.comMon, February 15, 2010 12:15:37 PMRe: Re: 5 Bad Foods That are Actually Healthy on Health If folks want to lose weight, i have an excellent suggestion for them start yer own business. i've barely eaten anything in the week we've been open. if i don't lose weight now, i never will! Katie Feb 15, 2010 1:18 AM @gro ups.com Re: 5 Bad Foods That are Actually Healthy on Health My husband and many of my friends have noted that their places of employment have implemented a "biggest loser" campagne in an effort to contribute to reducing the obesity epidemic that plagues our country. How do any of these poor people expect to shed the heart-clogging cellulite when this kind of trash is being slewn about like confetti, peppering the media. It would be really nice if, for once, these corporations would take responsibility for themselves and put disclaimers out there like the alcohol and tobacco industries have to do. I'd be tickled to see, "Yummy and great tasting blah blah blah. This product can cause heart disease, diabetes, cancer, tumors, seizures, thyroid disorders, parasites, depression, attention disorders, eczema, and excess weight gain so please eat responsibly. "Katie@gro ups.com, Patricia <moondreamer64_ 2000 wrote:>> Here we go again.> > Patricia> > > > > > > http://health. / featured/ 80/5-bad- foods-that- are-actually- healthy/> You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Hi I think you have misunderstood the humour in Fraggles post. Fraggle likes food as much as I do. but he has been very busy lately. I don't wish to be confrontational, but apart from whether or not meat is healthy I really think it is ethically wrong to eat it unless there is no other way to survive. Jo , Sarah Tomecek <sarah.tomecek wrote: > > I feel like lately there has been more negativity on this stream of emails. Certainly dairy and animal products aren't as good for you as delicious fresh veggies and complex carbs mmm, but let's not go over board and promote bad dietary habits. Eating too little can be just as detrimental as eating the wrong types of foods. Often skipping meals can be even more dangerous. My boyfriend stuffs his face with all the meat and poultry he can get his hands on and he is in great shape because he eats enough for him and exercises. True who knows what his arteries look like haha, but the point is he's got tons of energy, feels great, and doesn't look too shabby either :-p. The point is personally I don't eat animal products because I don't believe they're good for me or anyone else, but I don't deprive myself of the food that I love and think is alright for me. I don't think anyone should. Take care of yourselves and eat clean! > > > > ________________________________ > fraggle <EBbrewpunx > > Mon, February 15, 2010 12:15:37 PM > Re: Re: 5 Bad Foods That are Actually Healthy on Health > > > If folks want to lose weight, i have an excellent suggestion for them > start yer own business. > i've barely eaten anything in the week we've been open. if i don't lose weight now, i never will! > > > > > > >Katie > >Feb 15, 2010 1:18 AM > >@gro ups.com > > Re: 5 Bad Foods That are Actually Healthy on Health > > > > > >My husband and many of my friends have noted that their places of employment have implemented a " biggest loser " campagne in an effort to contribute to reducing the obesity epidemic that plagues our country. How do any of these poor people expect to shed the heart-clogging cellulite when this kind of trash is being slewn about like confetti, peppering the media. It would be really nice if, for once, these corporations would take responsibility for themselves and put disclaimers out there like the alcohol and tobacco industries have to do. I'd be tickled to see, " Yummy and great tasting blah blah blah. This product can cause heart disease, diabetes, cancer, tumors, seizures, thyroid disorders, parasites, depression, attention disorders, eczema, and excess weight gain so please eat responsibly. " > > > >Katie > > > >@gro ups.com, Patricia <moondreamer64_ 2000@> wrote: > >> > >> Here we go again. > >> > >> Patricia > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> http://health. / featured/ 80/5-bad- foods-that- are-actually- healthy/ > >> > > > > > You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 It was - and we do need humour - it has been lacking recently. Jo , EC <emgarri wrote: > > Fraggle's joke was funny. A little humor is necessary in the Vegan chat.  Veganism is a serious subject because the people of this world are eating millions of murdered animals every day. Humor is good and hard to find in the vegan environment. Surely you don't think Fraggle was promoting starvation? Lighten up, we're all on the same side, right?........ > > --- On Mon, 2/15/10, Sarah Tomecek <sarah.tomecek wrote: > > > Sarah Tomecek <sarah.tomecek > Re: Re: 5 Bad Foods That are Actually Healthy on Health > > Monday, February 15, 2010, 11:28 AM > > >  > > > > > > I feel like lately there has been more negativity on this stream of emails. Certainly dairy and animal products aren't as good for you as delicious fresh veggies and complex carbs mmm, but let's not go over board and promote bad dietary habits. Eating too little can be just as detrimental as eating the wrong types of foods. Often skipping meals can be even more dangerous. My boyfriend stuffs his face with all the meat and poultry he can get his hands on and he is in great shape because he eats enough for him and exercises. True who knows what his arteries look like haha, but the point is he's got tons of energy, feels great, and doesn't look too shabby either :-p. The point is personally I don't eat animal products because I don't believe they're good for me or anyone else, but I don't deprive myself of the food that I love and think is alright for me. I don't think anyone should. Take care of yourselves and eat clean!  > > > > > fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.net> > @gro ups.com > Mon, February 15, 2010 12:15:37 PM > Re: Re: 5 Bad Foods That are Actually Healthy on Health > >  > > > If folks want to lose weight, i have an excellent suggestion for them > start yer own business. > i've barely eaten anything in the week we've been open. if i don't lose weight now, i never will! > > > > > > Katie > Feb 15, 2010 1:18 AM > @gro ups.com > Re: 5 Bad Foods That are Actually Healthy on Health > >  > > > > My husband and many of my friends have noted that their places of employment have implemented a " biggest loser " campagne in an effort to contribute to reducing the obesity epidemic that plagues our country. How do any of these poor people expect to shed the heart-clogging cellulite when this kind of trash is being slewn about like confetti, peppering the media. It would be really nice if, for once, these corporations would take responsibility for themselves and put disclaimers out there like the alcohol and tobacco industries have to do. I'd be tickled to see, " Yummy and great tasting blah blah blah. This product can cause heart disease, diabetes, cancer, tumors, seizures, thyroid disorders, parasites, depression, attention disorders, eczema, and excess weight gain so please eat responsibly. " > > Katie > > @gro ups.com, Patricia <moondreamer64_ 2000@> wrote: > > > > Here we go again. > > > > Patricia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://health. / featured/ 80/5-bad- foods-that- are-actually- healthy/ > > > > > You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 I agree it is good to promote healthy eating and I would always encourage people to eat properly - but some people are vegan for no other reason than that they do not want to eat another being. Jo , Sarah Tomecek <sarah.tomecek wrote: > > Of course I agree we're all on the same side. I wasn't just addressing fraggle there was some criticism of another vegan chatters diet being too hefty earlier by someone else. I'm just saying we need to promote healthy eating and celebrate our good choices too. > > > > ________________________________ > EC <emgarri > > Tue, February 16, 2010 10:57:36 AM > Re: Re: 5 Bad Foods That are Actually Healthy on Health > > > Fraggle's joke was funny. A little humor is necessary in the Vegan chat. Veganism is a serious subject because the people of this world are eating millions of murdered animals every day. Humor is good and hard to find in the vegan environment. Surely you don't think Fraggle was promoting starvation? Lighten up, we're all on the same side, right?...... .. > > --- On Mon, 2/15/10, Sarah Tomecek <sarah.tomecek@ > wrote: > > > >Sarah Tomecek <sarah.tomecek@ > > >Re: Re: 5 Bad Foods That are Actually Healthy on Health > >@gro ups.com > >Monday, February 15, 2010, 11:28 AM > > > > > > > >I feel like lately there has been more negativity on this stream of emails. Certainly dairy and animal products aren't as good for you as delicious fresh veggies and complex carbs mmm, but let's not go over board and promote bad dietary habits. Eating too little can be just as detrimental as eating the wrong types of foods. Often skipping meals can be even more dangerous. My boyfriend stuffs his face with all the meat and poultry he can get his hands on and he is in great shape because he eats enough for him and exercises. True who knows what his arteries look like haha, but the point is he's got tons of energy, feels great, and doesn't look too shabby either :-p. The point is personally I don't eat animal products because I don't believe they're good for me or anyone else, but I don't deprive myself of the food that I love and think is alright for me. I don't think anyone should. Take care of yourselves and eat clean! > > > > > > > ________________________________ > fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.net> > >@gro ups.com > >Mon, February 15, 2010 12:15:37 PM > >Re: Re: 5 Bad Foods That are Actually Healthy on Health > > > > > >If folks want to lose weight, i have an excellent suggestion for them > >start yer own business. > >i've barely eaten anything in the week we've been open. if i don't lose weight now, i never will! > > > > > > > > > > > >>Katie > >>Feb 15, 2010 1:18 AM > >>@gro ups.com > >> Re: 5 Bad Foods That are Actually Healthy on Health > >> > >> > >>My husband and many of my friends have noted that their places of employment have implemented a " biggest loser " campagne in an effort to contribute to reducing the obesity epidemic that plagues our country. How do any of these poor people expect to shed the heart-clogging cellulite when this kind of trash is being slewn about like confetti, peppering the media. It would be really nice if, for once, these corporations would take responsibility for themselves and put disclaimers out there like the alcohol and tobacco industries have to do. I'd be tickled to see, " Yummy and great tasting blah blah blah. This product can cause heart disease, diabetes, cancer, tumors, seizures, thyroid disorders, parasites, depression, attention disorders, eczema, and excess weight gain so please eat responsibly. " > >> > >>Katie > >> > >>@gro ups.com, Patricia <moondreamer64_ 2000@> wrote: > >>> > >>> Here we go again. > >>> > >>> Patricia > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> http://health. / featured/ 80/5-bad- foods-that- are-actually- healthy/ > >>> > >> > >> > >You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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