Guest guest Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 Dear Group, We have been in Tiru now one month. With the Grace of Arunachala, it has been much easier and more harmonious than we had imagined. Starting yesterday, I now find my early morning meditations getting deeper. This is important for me. One reason is that when the day starts with deep meditation everything seems to be better. For one thing, I find myself filled with peace – this makes everything in the relative existence flow more easily. The other, more important element is that I find for the whole day, inquiry seems to flow more readily. What has made the inquiry better? One element might be that this mind is more settled since basic issues of life here are now much more settled. I think another reason, though, is that I am actually plunging more into the inquiry. To deepen the inquiry, I again am investigating more fully what is the source of the sense of individual identity. I was up on the roof with Arunachala about 5 AM. I started by listening to a discourse from a satsang with Nome. Then I started the inquiry. First I took the time to notice that I exist. This starts the inquiry with something that is certain, that is the Truth. I then asked myself, " Where does the sense of `I' come from? " Then I started investigating, from gross to subtle: Does the `I' come from the physical body? No, the body is always known, it does not say `I', any `I' found there must be projected upon the body. The body is known only though these senses. Do the senses say `I'? No, then senses are known only though the mind. Does the prana, the life force, say `I'? No, this is always known. Who knows this? Do thoughts say `I'? No, thought are inert, they do not know them selves. Who knows the thought? The thought seems to be known by the intellect. The intellect presents an assumption as to the waking state sense of identity and waking state universe. Who knows this waking state self? Can it know itself? As the inquiry moved through this, more life feeling the way through each level than thinking, it continues to deepen and the sense of self seems to expand. And my sense of deep peace grows. This morning, after the days of rain, there is a ground fog that shrouds the area and an air of mystery. And there is a bit of a chill in the air. I will want to remember this chill in a few months when the heat comes. There is another teacher. Mooji in town for the next two months that someone has suggested we might like to hear, and we will go today. My wife asked Nome, in an email about listening to other teachers here. Nome said, " Ramana is the Sadguru. With this, listening (or reading), reflection and deep meditation from other sources can help support one's practice. " (later) We sat satsang with Mooji, very good. He teaches the same Advaita teachings as Ramana and Nome. He is apparently from the Papaji `family.' His words show love and clarity. One thing I saw is that he answered questions gently and in depth, probing to get to the heart of the real question. If the question was not one that mattered spiritually to the questioner, he would not answer, but rather would ask for more relevant questions. He is from somewhere in the Caribbean islands (Jamaica?), and currently resides, I think, in London. We will probably go again. Not two, Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 Dear Richard, I would like to say a thank you for the posts! They really warm my heart. Your contribution and experience remind me of my own time at Arunachala and encourage my practice. I support your views on Mooji, who has a varied programme and although based in the UK goes to other places in the world to teach. His programme can be found on the web. Don't stop letting us know how you get on. I will go to Tiru in September, I would love to look you up if you are still there then. Love and light to you and your family. Enjoy the Bhagavan's Birthday! Seva , " Richard Clarke " <richard wrote: > > Dear Group, > > We have been in Tiru now one month. With the Grace of Arunachala, it > has been much easier and more harmonious than we had imagined. > > Starting yesterday, I now find my early morning meditations getting > deeper. This is important for me. One reason is that when the day > starts with deep meditation everything seems to be better. For one > thing, I find myself filled with peace � this makes everything in the > relative existence flow more easily. The other, more important element > is that I find for the whole day, inquiry seems to flow more readily. > > What has made the inquiry better? One element might be that this mind > is more settled since basic issues of life here are now much more > settled. > > I think another reason, though, is that I am actually plunging more > into the inquiry. > > To deepen the inquiry, I again am investigating more fully what is the > source of the sense of individual identity. I was up on the roof with > Arunachala about 5 AM. I started by listening to a discourse from a > satsang with Nome. Then I started the inquiry. First I took the time > to notice that I exist. This starts the inquiry with something that is > certain, that is the Truth. I then asked myself, " Where does the sense > of `I' come from? " Then I started investigating, from gross to subtle: > Does the `I' come from the physical body? No, the body is always > known, it does not say `I', any `I' found there must be projected upon > the body. The body is known only though these senses. Do the senses > say `I'? No, then senses are known only though the mind. Does the > prana, the life force, say `I'? No, this is always known. Who knows > this? Do thoughts say `I'? No, thought are inert, they do not know > them selves. Who knows the thought? The thought seems to be known by > the intellect. The intellect presents an assumption as to the waking > state sense of identity and waking state universe. Who knows this > waking state self? Can it know itself? As the inquiry moved through > this, more life feeling the way through each level than thinking, it > continues to deepen and the sense of self seems to expand. And my > sense of deep peace grows. > > This morning, after the days of rain, there is a ground fog that > shrouds the area and an air of mystery. And there is a bit of a chill > in the air. I will want to remember this chill in a few months when > the heat comes. > > There is another teacher. Mooji in town for the next two months that > someone has suggested we might like to hear, and we will go today. My > wife asked Nome, in an email about listening to other teachers here. > Nome said, " Ramana is the Sadguru. With this, listening (or reading), > reflection and deep meditation from other sources can help support > one's practice. " > > (later) We sat satsang with Mooji, very good. He teaches the same > Advaita teachings as Ramana and Nome. He is apparently from the Papaji > `family.' His words show love and clarity. One thing I saw is that he > answered questions gently and in depth, probing to get to the heart of > the real question. If the question was not one that mattered > spiritually to the questioner, he would not answer, but rather would > ask for more relevant questions. He is from somewhere in the Caribbean > islands (Jamaica?), and currently resides, I think, in London. We will > probably go again. > > Not two, > Richard > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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