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Hello All,

 

I was in Chennai Book fair this morning (a huge yearly book exhibition by several publishers/book stores).

Ramanasramam had a very good book stall and I bought " The path of Sri Ramana- Part one " by Sadhu Om.

 

In the preface (page xii) by the publisher, it is mentioned that when Sri Sadhu Om was invited to

visit the West, he replied...

 

" It is unnecessary for the Reality to run after the world. Moreover, according to the great truth discovered

and revealed by Sri Ramana Bhagavan, a good person leading a simple yet highly spiritual life and passing

away unknown to the world does far greater good to the world than all the political and social reformers

and all the platform-heroes of philosophy. "

 

I would like to have the views of list members on this statement.

 

(This book is published by Sri Ramana Kshetra (Kanvashrama Trust) in Tiruvannamalai. )

 

regards

ramasamy

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Dear Memebers, An e-book in PDF format of this book is available for free download at : http://www.happinessofbeing.com/The_Path_of_Sri_Ramana_Part_One.pdf Many books by Shri Ramana Maharishi are available on the net, for free down load. Regards VenugopalRamasamy R <rramasamy wrote: Hello All, I was in Chennai Book fair this morning (a huge yearly book exhibition by several publishers/book stores). Ramanasramam had a very good book stall and I bought "The path of Sri Ramana- Part one" by Sadhu Om. In the preface (page xii) by the publisher, it is mentioned that when Sri Sadhu Om was invited to visit the West, he replied... "It is unnecessary for the Reality to run after the world. Moreover, according to the great truth discovered and revealed by Sri Ramana Bhagavan, a good person leading a simple yet highly spiritual life and passing away unknown to the world does far greater good to the world than all the political and social reformers and all the platform-heroes of philosophy." I would like to have the views of list members on this statement. (This book is published by Sri Ramana Kshetra (Kanvashrama Trust) in Tiruvannamalai. ) regards ramasamy

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> " It is unnecessary for the Reality to run after the world. Moreover,

> according to the great truth discovered

> and revealed by Sri Ramana Bhagavan, a good person leading a simple yet

> highly spiritual life and passing

> away unknown to the world does far greater good to the world than all the

> political and social reformers

> and all the platform-heroes of philosophy. "

 

Perhaps a trifle harsh but understandable coming from a devotee. I

might suggest that Ghandi, Martin Luther King, and such might have a

claim to having done a bit of good for their worlds and perhaps the

planet, too. Whether contributions like theirs are outweighed by the

" far greater good " done by the unknown saintly good person is beyond my

ability to judge.

 

Namaskars

Mike Hodder

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, michael hodder <mhodder wrote:

>

> > " It is unnecessary for the Reality to run after the world. Moreover,

> > according to the great truth discovered

> > and revealed by Sri Ramana Bhagavan, a good person leading a

simple yet

> > highly spiritual life and passing

> > away unknown to the world does far greater good to the world than

all the

> > political and social reformers

> > and all the platform-heroes of philosophy. "

>

> Perhaps a trifle harsh but understandable coming from a devotee. I

> might suggest that Ghandi, Martin Luther King, and such might have a

> claim to having done a bit of good for their worlds and perhaps the

> planet, too. Whether contributions like theirs are outweighed by the

> " far greater good " done by the unknown saintly good person is beyond my

> ability to judge.

>

> Namaskars

> Mike Hodder

> ===============================

>

 

 

:)

 

 

 

 

a true teacher

takes what you do not have

and gives you

what is always yours.

 

this is why

the sage

does his work

and slips away

unperceived.

 

real masters are like thieves:

only the ones caught

are known.

the best ones

remain

hidden.

 

yet their blessed presence

though unrecognized,

continuously sustains

the world.

 

 

 

 

 

 

BOOM!

 

_()_

yosy

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Yosy: I like all your poems and saved many of them. Probably one day I will make a book and sell it. But-Ah-that is Satsangh copyright voilation. May be - NOT - Who knows? yosyx <yosyflug wrote: , michael hodder <mhodder wrote:>> > "It is unnecessary for the Reality to run after the world. Moreover,> > according to the great truth discovered> > and revealed by Sri

Ramana Bhagavan, a good person leading asimple yet> > highly spiritual life and passing> > away unknown to the world does far greater good to the world thanall the> > political and social reformers> > and all the platform-heroes of philosophy."> > Perhaps a trifle harsh but understandable coming from a devotee. I > might suggest that Ghandi, Martin Luther King, and such might have a > claim to having done a bit of good for their worlds and perhaps the > planet, too. Whether contributions like theirs are outweighed by the > "far greater good" done by the unknown saintly good person is beyond my > ability to judge.> > Namaskars> Mike Hodder> ===============================>:)a true teachertakes what you do not haveand gives youwhat is always yours.this is whythe sagedoes his workand

slips awayunperceived.real masters are like thieves:only the ones caughtare known.the best onesremainhidden.yet their blessed presencethough unrecognized,continuously sustainsthe world.BOOM! _()_yosy

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Dear Mike Hodder

 

thank you for your contribution.

Could you tell us - if you do not mind - about your way to Sri Ramana Maharshi?

 

in Ramana

 

 

michael bindel

 

 

 

-

michael hodder

Cc: mhodder

Monday, January 14, 2008 3:56 PM

Re:Query from "The Path of Sri Ramana"

 

 

> "It is unnecessary for the Reality to run after the world. Moreover,> according to the great truth discovered> and revealed by Sri Ramana Bhagavan, a good person leading a simple yet> highly spiritual life and passing> away unknown to the world does far greater good to the world than all the> political and social reformers> and all the platform-heroes of philosophy."Perhaps a trifle harsh but understandable coming from a devotee. I might suggest that Ghandi, Martin Luther King, and such might have a claim to having done a bit of good for their worlds and perhaps the planet, too. Whether contributions like theirs are outweighed by the "far greater good" done by the unknown saintly good person is beyond my ability to judge.NamaskarsMike Hodder===============================

 

 

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Hi Nisheet,

 

I agree that Yosy is a great poet. I don't know if you were trying to

be funny with the copyright thing and the list.

 

I assume you were. On this list, we appreciate good humor. However, As

the " old timers " know we have always emphasized high quality humor on

this list which is free of sarcasm. Sarcasm is OK, only if it is

original, makes people start laughing spontaneously and uncontrollably.

 

Your post does not meet these stringent requirements. Many posts do

not. And that's OK. But one day, we will start enforcing the rules.

No one knows when that will happen. But please do prepare for that.

 

Thanks,

 

Namaste and love to all

Harsha

 

PS: We never stop list members from leaving, if the list no longer

serves them.

 

 

, nn <nisheet2000 wrote:

>

> Yosy: I like all your poems and saved many of them. Probably one day

I will make a book and sell it. But-Ah-that is Satsangh copyright

voilation. May be - NOT - Who knows?

>

>

> yosyx <yosyflug wrote:

> , michael hodder

<mhodder@> wrote:

> >

> > > " It is unnecessary for the Reality to run after the world. Moreover,

> > > according to the great truth discovered

> > > and revealed by Sri Ramana Bhagavan, a good person leading a

> simple yet

> > > highly spiritual life and passing

> > > away unknown to the world does far greater good to the world than

> all the

> > > political and social reformers

> > > and all the platform-heroes of philosophy. "

> >

> > Perhaps a trifle harsh but understandable coming from a devotee. I

> > might suggest that Ghandi, Martin Luther King, and such might have a

> > claim to having done a bit of good for their worlds and perhaps the

> > planet, too. Whether contributions like theirs are outweighed by the

> > " far greater good " done by the unknown saintly good person is

beyond my

> > ability to judge.

> >

> > Namaskars

> > Mike Hodder

> > ===============================

> >

>

> :)

>

> a true teacher

> takes what you do not have

> and gives you

> what is always yours.

>

> this is why

> the sage

> does his work

> and slips away

> unperceived.

>

> real masters are like thieves:

> only the ones caught

> are known.

> the best ones

> remain

> hidden.

>

> yet their blessed presence

> though unrecognized,

> continuously sustains

> the world.

>

> BOOM!

>

> _()_

> yosy

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, nn <nisheet2000 wrote:

>

> Yosy: I like all your poems and saved many of them.

 

 

 

thank you.

 

 

 

> Probably one day I will make a book and sell it.

 

 

 

 

 

actually there is a book. it is called " BOOM! "

(by yosy flug), and you can get it from amazon

or even better from 'poetry vortex' publication.

:) and btw, it does not sell much...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But-Ah-that is Satsangh copyright voilation. May be - NOT - Who knows?

>

>

 

 

 

it is, actually. btw, recently some american

best-selling writer usurped the name " BOOM! "

and published a book under this name...

does anyone know whether this is a breach

of a copyright, friends? my " BOOM! " was

published a year before he had the idea

of using this name... will appreciate

advice.

 

 

BOOM!

 

yosy

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Dear One

 

of course he is right - without doubt. In order to understand this statement you must have aknowledged without any doubt the TRUTH our Sadguru discovered for himself and lived accordingly.

 

I AM WHO I AM

 

"nothing else" is necessary

 

 

in Ramana

 

michael

 

P-S. tku for the PDF information

 

 

-

Venugopal AK

Sunday, January 13, 2008 4:37 PM

Re: Query from "The Path of Sri Ramana"

 

 

 

Dear Memebers,

An e-book in PDF format of this book is available for free download at :

http://www.happinessofbeing.com/The_Path_of_Sri_Ramana_Part_One.pdf

Many books by Shri Ramana Maharishi are available on the net, for free down load.

Regards

VenugopalRamasamy R <rramasamy > wrote:

 

 

 

Hello All,

 

I was in Chennai Book fair this morning (a huge yearly book exhibition by several publishers/book stores).

Ramanasramam had a very good book stall and I bought "The path of Sri Ramana- Part one" by Sadhu Om.

 

In the preface (page xii) by the publisher, it is mentioned that when Sri Sadhu Om was invited to

visit the West, he replied...

 

"It is unnecessary for the Reality to run after the world. Moreover, according to the great truth discovered

and revealed by Sri Ramana Bhagavan, a good person leading a simple yet highly spiritual life and passing

away unknown to the world does far greater good to the world than all the political and social reformers

and all the platform-heroes of philosophy."

 

I would like to have the views of list members on this statement.

 

(This book is published by Sri Ramana Kshetra (Kanvashrama Trust) in Tiruvannamalai. )

 

regards

ramasamy

 

 

 

5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox.

 

 

 

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yosyx <yosyflug wrote: You may name your next book as "Boo" to teach that usurper fellow a lesson (Grin). Regards Venugopalactually there is a book. it is called "BOOM!" (by yosy flug), and you can get it from amazon or even better from 'poetry vortex' publication. :) and btw, it does not sell much... But-Ah-that is Satsangh copyright voilation. May be - NOT - Who knows?> >it is, actually. btw, recently some american best-selling writer usurped the name "BOOM!"

and published a book under this name... does anyone know whether this is a breach of a copyright, friends? my "BOOM!" was published a year before he had the idea of using this name... will appreciate advice.BOOM! yosy

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Michael:

 

You ask a tough question! I'm not certain I understand what you mean

by a way to Sri Ramana Maharshi. I take him to have been one who

realized who he really was and lived that understanding until his

physical body stopped functioning. I don't see him as THE goal,

although who he really was is THE goal, but rather more as one of

those who discovered who he really was.

 

Perhaps this might make my answer more understandable. In my library,

I have Sri Ramana Maharshi's biography, poetry, and transcribed

sayings alongside those of Sri Ramakrishna and the Pali tripitaka. For

me, they are all guides to how others lived what they knew. I can say,

however, that of all of them Sri Ramana Maharshi is the one with whom

I'd have liked to have sat with and been around. He seems in his

photos to be extremely approachable.

 

Namaskars

 

Mike Hodder

 

 

 

, " Michael Bindel "

<michael.bindel wrote:

>

> Dear Mike Hodder

>

> thank you for your contribution.

> Could you tell us - if you do not mind - about your way to Sri

Ramana Maharshi?

>

> in Ramana

>

>

> michael bindel

>

>

> -

> michael hodder

>

> Cc: mhodder

> Monday, January 14, 2008 3:56 PM

> Re:Query from " The Path of

Sri Ramana "

>

>

> > " It is unnecessary for the Reality to run after the world. Moreover,

> > according to the great truth discovered

> > and revealed by Sri Ramana Bhagavan, a good person leading a

simple yet

> > highly spiritual life and passing

> > away unknown to the world does far greater good to the world

than all the

> > political and social reformers

> > and all the platform-heroes of philosophy. "

>

> Perhaps a trifle harsh but understandable coming from a devotee. I

> might suggest that Ghandi, Martin Luther King, and such might have a

> claim to having done a bit of good for their worlds and perhaps the

> planet, too. Whether contributions like theirs are outweighed by the

> " far greater good " done by the unknown saintly good person is

beyond my

> ability to judge.

>

> Namaskars

> Mike Hodder

> ===============================

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

>

>

>

>

> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1223 - Release Date:

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Perhaps a trifle harsh but understandable coming from a devotee. I > might suggest that Ghandi, Martin Luther King, and such might have a > claim to having done a bit of good for their worlds and perhaps the > planet, too. Whether contributions like theirs are outweighed by the > "far greater good" done by the unknown saintly good person isbeyond my > ability to judge.> > Namaskars> Mike Hodder

 

Dear Mike

 

thank you for your answer. I was astonished, really astonished, that you felt my question to be a "tough" one and that you doubted, that you understood it....

So like always i reflected and asked my dear wife for her opinion.

 

I am not a native english-speaker, which might be very easily recognized. Are you a native English speaker?

Maybe this is the source of superficial misunderstanding.

 

Due to my intuition i feel that my question hit the point....

 

So let me please explain why i asked it:

 

you wrote in your email

Perhaps a trifle harsh but understandable coming from a devotee. I > might suggest that Ghandi, Martin Luther King, and such might have a > claim to having done a bit of good for their worlds and perhaps the > planet, too. Whether contributions like theirs are outweighed by the > "far greater good" done by the unknown saintly good person isbeyond my > ability to judge.> > Namaskars> Mike Hodder

 

it is NOT a question of "judging" its a question of deep inner feeling.

And this topic is one of the central topics on the "way back home" -like michael bindel likes to call his sadhana...

 

Because you had the courage to send your comment to THIS HIGHLY IMPORTANT TOPIC in my opinion - which i do apreciate very much indeed! - and reading your comment, especially your stating.... it is beyond my ability to judge - that i was touched and reacted; what dear one is nowadays very seldom in michaels life. (in comparision my earlier development)

 

when you have tried with all your inner and outer power to get to the root of what "life is all about" and had to endure suffering and disappointments en masse (normal on the way! and absolute necessary!) you discover that the outer world is "just a dream"

and that REAL LIFE is always inside ourselves and in the way we do react to outside experiences....

 

I simply wanted to know "how" you discovered Advaita and Sri Ramana Maharshi....how you realized that "normal" life is not any more satisfying your inner urges for Clarity Wisdom TRUTH

 

In this life my journey to GD LOVE - what is the same for me - was a long one - because i did not accept anything less than complete AUTHENTICITY.

And only when complete surrender of "Ego" happens i fell LOVE and LOVE is not a "feeling" (feeling being part of Ego) BUT a state of BEING

 

for those humans who want to reach TRUTH LOVE complete surrender, complete devotion, complete EFFORT to this is a absolute must - at least for me.

Everything less cannot be IT

 

and it is IT

 

 

I AM WHO I AM Those wonderful words GD spoke to MOSES when he asked the Almighty what should i answer my and your people when they ask me what is your name and how to call YOU

I AM WHO I AM Sri Ramana Maharshi said that this NAME of S E L F GD this is the same! like LOVEis even "more" tjhan the HOLY O M or A U ,M

because IN IT Sri Ramana stated the complete wisdom of sixthousand years of VEDIC wisdom is included

 

 

The world being a "Illusionmaya" or whatever humans want to call it is THE STAGE where we all have to aim at living our inner truth

LIVING OUR INNER TRUTH

 

is this not a wonderful light to follow all our existence, dear Mike?

 

Due to GRACE i was able to "meet" SRI RAMANA MAHARSHI and to feel that IT WAS AND IT IS WHAT IT IS

 

with this i mean

 

Ramanas history is known till its smallest deatil

 

HE LIVED WHAT WAS INSIDE HIM TILL HIS LAST BREATH

 

michael bindel calls this AUTHENTICITY

 

and therefore THE LIGHT OF SELF has to be followed, if we want to reach the state of authenticity ourselves.

 

 

Thank you for your contribution and your time

 

yours in Ramana

 

 

michael bindel

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

ignatz468

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:26 PM

Re:Query from "The Path of Sri Ramana"

 

 

Michael:You ask a tough question! I'm not certain I understand what you meanby a way to Sri Ramana Maharshi. I take him to have been one whorealized who he really was and lived that understanding until hisphysical body stopped functioning. I don't see him as THE goal,although who he really was is THE goal, but rather more as one ofthose who discovered who he really was.Perhaps this might make my answer more understandable. In my library,I have Sri Ramana Maharshi's biography, poetry, and transcribedsayings alongside those of Sri Ramakrishna and the Pali tripitaka. Forme, they are all guides to how others lived what they knew. I can say,however, that of all of them Sri Ramana Maharshi is the one with whomI'd have liked to have sat with and been around. He seems in hisphotos to be extremely approachable.NamaskarsMike Hodder , "Michael Bindel"<michael.bindel wrote:>> Dear Mike Hodder> > thank you for your contribution.> Could you tell us - if you do not mind - about your way to SriRamana Maharshi?> > in Ramana> > > michael bindel> > > - > michael hodder > > Cc: mhodder > Monday, January 14, 2008 3:56 PM> Re:Query from "The Path ofSri Ramana"> > > > "It is unnecessary for the Reality to run after the world. Moreover,> > according to the great truth discovered> > and revealed by Sri Ramana Bhagavan, a good person leading asimple yet> > highly spiritual life and passing> > away unknown to the world does far greater good to the worldthan all the> > political and social reformers> > and all the platform-heroes of philosophy."> > Perhaps a trifle harsh but understandable coming from a devotee. I > might suggest that Ghandi, Martin Luther King, and such might have a > claim to having done a bit of good for their worlds and perhaps the > planet, too. Whether contributions like theirs are outweighed by the > "far greater good" done by the unknown saintly good person isbeyond my > ability to judge.> > Namaskars> Mike Hodder> ===============================> > > > > >-------------------------> > > > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1223 - Release Date:13/01/2008 20.23>

 

 

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