Guest guest Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 yosyx <yosyflug wrote: , " Richard Clarke " <richard wrote: > > Dear Alan, > > From my experience a teacher has been vital. > > Also Discrimination is a big key to inquiry - in inquiry you are > looking to see what is real. Since the real is already real, inquiry > cannot make it more real. Discrimination sees what comes and goes as > not the reality, rather what is always there must be real, must be > your identity - see for yourself. > > Without a teacher, may I suggest that you listen to the satsangs from > Nome that I have posted. He is one of the finest teachers of inquiry > (and discrimination). > > We can dialog about either of these if you want. > > In Arunachala, > > Richard In spite of teachers, teachings, Books and exercises, Sacred dances, Rituals, Chants and sacrifices, Real spirituality The path of the heart Can not be ever taught. But luckily Through grace And company of friends It can be Effortlessly Caught. yosy ps. a few minutes in the presence of source of knowledge are worth more than all the books and recordings. the true teacher is life itself. a genuine teacher teaches by his/her presence, even if unrecognized. This quotation from The bible says of seeds falling on rocks and being wasted, being sown on prepared fertile land being productive and growing up healthily. If the seeker has prepared himself by " Sadhana " , as a land is tilled and watered and fertilised, ready to receive seeds, then and then only a Saint or Guru can be effective for him. Regards Venugopal Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 , Venugopal AK <akvenugopal wrote: > > yosyx <yosyflug wrote: > , " Richard Clarke " <richard@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Alan, > > > > From my experience a teacher has been vital. > > > > Also Discrimination is a big key to inquiry - in inquiry you are > > looking to see what is real. Since the real is already real, inquiry > > cannot make it more real. Discrimination sees what comes and goes as > > not the reality, rather what is always there must be real, must be > > your identity - see for yourself. > > > > Without a teacher, may I suggest that you listen to the satsangs from > > Nome that I have posted. He is one of the finest teachers of inquiry > > (and discrimination). > > > > We can dialog about either of these if you want. > > > > In Arunachala, > > > > Richard > > > > In spite of teachers, teachings, > Books and exercises, > Sacred dances, > Rituals, > Chants and sacrifices, > Real spirituality > The path of the heart > Can not be ever taught. > But luckily > Through grace > And company of friends > It can be > Effortlessly > Caught. > > yosy > > ps. a few minutes in the presence of source > of knowledge are worth more than all the > books and recordings. the true teacher is > life itself. a genuine teacher teaches by > his/her presence, even if unrecognized. > > This quotation from The bible says of seeds falling on rocks and being wasted, being sown on prepared fertile land being productive and growing up healthily. > If the seeker has prepared himself by " Sadhana " , as a land is tilled and watered and fertilised, ready to receive seeds, then and then only a Saint or Guru can be effective for him. > Regards > Venugopal > > yes. if/when the seeker is ready, s/he'll get illumination even from a cat or a tree; but when unprepared - even if god in person would lecture him/her for days, nothing at all will transpire... yosy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Dear Venugopal, Dear Yossi michael does agree completely with what you stated - out of my own sadhana, my own practical life experience be blessed in eternal LOVE in GD your brother on the way back home michael - yosyx Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:09 AM Re: Discrimination ( The need for a teacher ) , Venugopal AK <akvenugopal wrote: > > yosyx <yosyflug wrote: > , " Richard Clarke " <richard@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Alan, > > > > From my experience a teacher has been vital. > > > > Also Discrimination is a big key to inquiry - in inquiry you are > > looking to see what is real. Since the real is already real, inquiry > > cannot make it more real. Discrimination sees what comes and goes as > > not the reality, rather what is always there must be real, must be > > your identity - see for yourself. > > > > Without a teacher, may I suggest that you listen to the satsangs from > > Nome that I have posted. He is one of the finest teachers of inquiry > > (and discrimination). > > > > We can dialog about either of these if you want. > > > > In Arunachala, > > > > Richard > > > > In spite of teachers, teachings, > Books and exercises, > Sacred dances, > Rituals, > Chants and sacrifices, > Real spirituality > The path of the heart > Can not be ever taught. > But luckily > Through grace > And company of friends > It can be > Effortlessly > Caught. > > yosy > > ps. a few minutes in the presence of source > of knowledge are worth more than all the > books and recordings. the true teacher is > life itself. a genuine teacher teaches by > his/her presence, even if unrecognized. > > This quotation from The bible says of seeds falling on rocks and being wasted, being sown on prepared fertile land being productive and growing up healthily. > If the seeker has prepared himself by " Sadhana " , as a land is tilled and watered and fertilised, ready to receive seeds, then and then only a Saint or Guru can be effective for him. > Regards > Venugopal > > yes. if/when the seeker is ready, s/he'll get illumination even from a cat or a tree; but when unprepared - even if god in person would lecture him/her for days, nothing at all will transpire... yosy Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1258 - Release 04/02/2008 10.10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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