Guest guest Posted April 19, 2008 Report Share Posted April 19, 2008 Nome, from Mandala Ten, from his book, " Self-Knowledge " The Truth reveals the Truth To the Truth. The Self reveals its own Existence As the one Self. This is the truth of meditation, The Truth of the Guru-and-disciple relationship. Only a Self-Realized sage Reveals Self-Knowledge, Clearly, " like a fruit in the hand, " Naturally, with no duality; The unenlightened Are unable to do so. The Realized reveal it With even the most awkward of words, The unenlightened cannot do so With even the eloquence Of the most elegant of words. The Realized reveal it Even with silence. In this silence, There are no unenlightened ones. Speaking, he is yet silent. Speaking, the sage Speaks only to God & #8213; The real Self & #8213; Whenever addressing The disciple or aspirant. Not to follow the Truth Revealed by one's Guru Is to cling to the illusions of the world, Walk eyes open into a raging fire, Blind one's own eyes, Injure oneself, Drown oneself, To fall again into nightmares After being kindly awakened. The wise yogi does not Make himself thus As one deserving of compassion, But adheres to that Truth, Dissolves himself into it, Rests himself upon it, Remains absorbed in it, And is content. Truth is like water: Strong enough To dissolve solid rock, Yet so gentle It can touch your eyes. Be devoted to your Guru, For he will generously show you That which might otherwise Require eons of striving. Who shows what to whom? To the Truth, Truth reveals the Truth. ---------------------- Om Arunachala, Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2008 Report Share Posted April 19, 2008 , " Richard Clarke " <richard wrote: > > Nome, from Mandala Ten, from his book, " Self-Knowledge " > > The Truth reveals the Truth > To the Truth. > The Self reveals its own Existence > As the one Self. > This is the truth of meditation, > The Truth of the Guru-and-disciple relationship. > Only a Self-Realized sage > Reveals Self-Knowledge, > Clearly, " like a fruit in the hand, " > Naturally, with no duality; > The unenlightened > Are unable to do so. > The Realized reveal it > With even the most awkward of words, > The unenlightened cannot do so > With even the eloquence > Of the most elegant of words. > The Realized reveal it > Even with silence. > In this silence, > There are no unenlightened ones. > Speaking, he is yet silent. > Speaking, the sage > Speaks only to God & #8213; > The real Self & #8213; > Whenever addressing > The disciple or aspirant. > Not to follow the Truth > Revealed by one's Guru > Is to cling to the illusions of the world, > Walk eyes open into a raging fire, > Blind one's own eyes, > Injure oneself, > Drown oneself, > To fall again into nightmares > After being kindly awakened. > The wise yogi does not > Make himself thus > As one deserving of compassion, > But adheres to that Truth, > Dissolves himself into it, > Rests himself upon it, > Remains absorbed in it, > And is content. > Truth is like water: > Strong enough > To dissolve solid rock, > Yet so gentle > It can touch your eyes. > Be devoted to your Guru, > For he will generously show you > That which might otherwise > Require eons of striving. > Who shows what to whom? > To the Truth, > Truth reveals the Truth. > > ---------------------- > > > Om Arunachala, > Richard > turth is never hidden, so how can it be revealled? sorry, richard. i read nome's musings which you so frequently post some time ago, and realized they are intended imitations of our beloved, incomparable ramana, and not an unintentional, natural, and spontaneous arising. and as such they do not hold any intrinsic value, imho. words come cheap... so i delete them since, usually without reading. an occasional glance, like on the present one, confirms this intuitive decision. my apology for bluntness, shabbat shalom all, yosy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2008 Report Share Posted April 19, 2008 Dear Yosy, These words have as their purpose that one can read, reflect and experience within one's Being what Ramana revealed. They are not some cognitive exposition. That they are aligned with Ramana's teaching is not something that I see as any issue. Use them or do not use them as you see fit. Om Arunachala, Richard , " yosyx " <yosyflug wrote: > > , " Richard Clarke " <richard@> > wrote: > > > > Nome, from Mandala Ten, from his book, " Self-Knowledge " > > > > The Truth reveals the Truth > > To the Truth. > > The Self reveals its own Existence > > As the one Self. > > This is the truth of meditation, > > The Truth of the Guru-and-disciple relationship. > > Only a Self-Realized sage > > Reveals Self-Knowledge, > > Clearly, " like a fruit in the hand, " > > Naturally, with no duality; > > The unenlightened > > Are unable to do so. > > The Realized reveal it > > With even the most awkward of words, > > The unenlightened cannot do so > > With even the eloquence > > Of the most elegant of words. > > The Realized reveal it > > Even with silence. > > In this silence, > > There are no unenlightened ones. > > Speaking, he is yet silent. > > Speaking, the sage > > Speaks only to God & #8213; > > The real Self & #8213; > > Whenever addressing > > The disciple or aspirant. > > Not to follow the Truth > > Revealed by one's Guru > > Is to cling to the illusions of the world, > > Walk eyes open into a raging fire, > > Blind one's own eyes, > > Injure oneself, > > Drown oneself, > > To fall again into nightmares > > After being kindly awakened. > > The wise yogi does not > > Make himself thus > > As one deserving of compassion, > > But adheres to that Truth, > > Dissolves himself into it, > > Rests himself upon it, > > Remains absorbed in it, > > And is content. > > Truth is like water: > > Strong enough > > To dissolve solid rock, > > Yet so gentle > > It can touch your eyes. > > Be devoted to your Guru, > > For he will generously show you > > That which might otherwise > > Require eons of striving. > > Who shows what to whom? > > To the Truth, > > Truth reveals the Truth. > > > > ---------------------- > > > > > > Om Arunachala, > > Richard > > > > > > turth is never hidden, so how > can it be revealled? sorry, richard. > i read nome's musings which you so > frequently post some time ago, and > realized they are intended imitations > of our beloved, incomparable ramana, and > not an unintentional, natural, and spontaneous > arising. and as such they do not hold any > intrinsic value, imho. words come cheap... > > so i delete them since, usually without > reading. an occasional glance, like on > the present one, confirms this intuitive > decision. > > my apology for bluntness, > > shabbat shalom all, > > yosy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2008 Report Share Posted April 19, 2008 Dear Yossi not sorry allowed as what you wrote is TRUTH in action nothing against anybody everything against IMITATION everything against not being AUTHENTIC authentic is what Sadguru SRI RAMANA MAHARSHI conveyed thru his absolute authenticity in every detail what an example to follow..... therefore no " new " " gurus " necessary just living the TRUTH what is necessary thank you again for your courage - which was lacking in this person.... in ramana - yosyx Saturday, April 19, 2008 3:50 AM Re: The Truth reveals the Truth the the Truth , " Richard Clarke " <richard wrote: > > Nome, from Mandala Ten, from his book, " Self-Knowledge " > > The Truth reveals the Truth > To the Truth. > The Self reveals its own Existence > As the one Self. > This is the truth of meditation, > The Truth of the Guru-and-disciple relationship. > Only a Self-Realized sage > Reveals Self-Knowledge, > Clearly, " like a fruit in the hand, " > Naturally, with no duality; > The unenlightened > Are unable to do so. > The Realized reveal it > With even the most awkward of words, > The unenlightened cannot do so > With even the eloquence > Of the most elegant of words. > The Realized reveal it > Even with silence. > In this silence, > There are no unenlightened ones. > Speaking, he is yet silent. > Speaking, the sage > Speaks only to God & #8213; > The real Self & #8213; > Whenever addressing > The disciple or aspirant. > Not to follow the Truth > Revealed by one's Guru > Is to cling to the illusions of the world, > Walk eyes open into a raging fire, > Blind one's own eyes, > Injure oneself, > Drown oneself, > To fall again into nightmares > After being kindly awakened. > The wise yogi does not > Make himself thus > As one deserving of compassion, > But adheres to that Truth, > Dissolves himself into it, > Rests himself upon it, > Remains absorbed in it, > And is content. > Truth is like water: > Strong enough > To dissolve solid rock, > Yet so gentle > It can touch your eyes. > Be devoted to your Guru, > For he will generously show you > That which might otherwise > Require eons of striving. > Who shows what to whom? > To the Truth, > Truth reveals the Truth. > > ---------------------- > > > Om Arunachala, > Richard > turth is never hidden, so how can it be revealled? sorry, richard. i read nome's musings which you so frequently post some time ago, and realized they are intended imitations of our beloved, incomparable ramana, and not an unintentional, natural, and spontaneous arising. and as such they do not hold any intrinsic value, imho. words come cheap... so i delete them since, usually without reading. an occasional glance, like on the present one, confirms this intuitive decision. my apology for bluntness, shabbat shalom all, yosy Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.1/1385 - Release 18/04/2008 9.30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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