Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 The Self is always purging it Self of that which is foreign to itself - everybody is interested in self-actualization, and (knowingly or un- knowing) this is always in the direction of de-falsification. Nisargadatta Maharaj stated in I Am That - " all desires, holy and unholy, come from the Self " . The person constitutes a restriction/limitation on the Self, and is in a constant state of creation, preservation and destruction. The Self is always Actual, the person non-actual and restrictive on the freedom of Self. Thus, self-enquiry continues " after " awakening as well - only it is not confined to a 'person' but is the nature of the Self it self. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 Dear Tim, I valued this posting because it seems to accord with Ramana's dictum that 'the vasanas have to come out , in order to be destroyed.' THanks and best wishes, Alan --- " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > The Self is always purging it Self of that which is foreign to itself - > everybody is interested in self-actualization, and (knowingly or un- > knowing) this is always in the direction of de-falsification. > Nisargadatta Maharaj stated in I Am That - " all desires, holy and > unholy, come from the Self " . > > The person constitutes a restriction/limitation on the Self, and is in > a constant state of creation, preservation and destruction. The Self > is always Actual, the person non-actual and restrictive on the freedom > of Self. > > Thus, self-enquiry continues " after " awakening as well - only it is not > confined to a 'person' but is the nature of the Self it self. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 Hi Alan, , Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs wrote: > > Dear Tim, > > I valued this posting because it seems to accord with Ramana's dictum that > 'the vasanas have to come out , in order to be destroyed.' > > THanks and best wishes, > > Alan For what it's worth, Nisargadatta noted as well that " occasionally an old reaction arises, but it immediately gets discarded " . I don't look at awakening as some sort of ending, but more like a beginning - it is the start of a new life. I think continual looking is important, although we can't all do self- enquiry all the time. But I'm a very strong proponent of self- enquiry and think everybody can make some time for it, even if it takes a few sacrifices in terms of work hours, etc. Peace, Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 Dear Tim in your last email you include two informations which are misleading to say the least. SELF and having desires?????? SELFINQUIRY a f t e r being absorbed in SELF??? in Ramana michael - Tim G. Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:52 AM Continuing Self-Enquiry... The Self is always purging it Self of that which is foreign to itself - everybody is interested in self-actualization, and (knowingly or un- knowing) this is always in the direction of de-falsification. Nisargadatta Maharaj stated in I Am That - " all desires, holy and unholy, come from the Self " . The person constitutes a restriction/limitation on the Self, and is in a constant state of creation, preservation and destruction. The Self is always Actual, the person non-actual and restrictive on the freedom of Self. Thus, self-enquiry continues " after " awakening as well - only it is not confined to a 'person' but is the nature of the Self it self. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.6/1402 - Release 28/04/2008 13.29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 Dear Tim, I agree. Thanks, Alan --- " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > Hi Alan, > > , Alan Jacobs > <alanadamsjacobs wrote: > > > > Dear Tim, > > > > I valued this posting because it seems to accord with Ramana's > dictum that > > 'the vasanas have to come out , in order to be destroyed.' > > > > THanks and best wishes, > > > > Alan > > For what it's worth, Nisargadatta noted as well that " occasionally an > old reaction arises, but it immediately gets discarded " . I don't > look at awakening as some sort of ending, but more like a beginning - > it is the start of a new life. > > I think continual looking is important, although we can't all do self- > enquiry all the time. But I'm a very strong proponent of self- > enquiry and think everybody can make some time for it, even if it > takes a few sacrifices in terms of work hours, etc. > > Peace, > > Tim > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 , " Michael Bindel " <michael.bindel wrote: > > Dear Tim > > > in your last email you include two informations which are misleading to say the least. > > SELF and having desires?????? I'm saying only that it's actually the Self that desires, if in fact there are desires. My friend, there is nothing but the Self. Don't push away desire - look at it, look into it, enquire. > SELFINQUIRY a f t e r being absorbed in SELF??? The Self knows only it Self - what else to inquire? ;-). I'm not a block of wood, after all. Buying groceries only takes up so much time, why not have fun looking into the mechanism(s) of falsehood? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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