Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Hi Mourad, > > , " mourad " <mourad_shamel@> > wrote: > > > > > > Hello > > > > Self abnegation and self giving is one of the expressions love > and > > selflessness, selfless-love. Shouting at someone and fighting with > > someone can also be an expression of selfless love. Anger can also > be an > > expression of selfless love. There is no restriction or limit for > the > > expression of selfless love. > > > > m > exactly so, mourad my friend. thank you. > I think it can also be looked at as Self-ful love as well. When we > realize others are really my Self, we treat others as we want to be > treated - with care, with compassion, with love. Others become > inclusive to us - it isn't 'me and you', you're not my 'object' any > more. We are both the supreme Subject, the " I-I " . > this precisely is your self-delusion, tim. the incomprehensible self/truth/love is really boundless, indefinable and ever unrestricted. and of course unconditional. in realization there is no " me " to treat nor " others " to be treated; in the one all-perviding and timeless reality there is no seperation. it is ever whole and indivisible. seeming compassion, love, anger etc occur naturally and spontaneously, according to the requirements of time, place and people... the sage has no self-identity to interfere with or obstruct the apparent flow of the real. tim, friends, remember: the hardest delusion to overcome is the illusion of disillusion. respectfully, yosy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 , " yosyx " <yosyflug wrote: > > , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > I think it can also be looked at as Self-ful love as well. When we > > realize others are really my Self, we treat others as we want to be > > treated - with care, with compassion, with love. Others become > > inclusive to us - it isn't 'me and you', you're not my 'object' any > > more. We are both the supreme Subject, the " I-I " . > > > > > this precisely is your self-delusion, tim. > the incomprehensible self/truth/love is > really boundless, indefinable and ever > unrestricted. and of course unconditional. I don't see how I denied any of the above, yosy. Could you explain to me what the word " this " (first word in paragraph above) is referring to, exactly? Then maybe we could discuss the subject instead of just reading your declaration that I'm deluded. > in realization there is no " me " to treat > nor " others " to be treated; in the one > all-perviding and timeless reality there > is no seperation. it is ever whole and > indivisible. Indeed so. > seeming compassion, love, > anger etc occur naturally and spontaneously, > according to the requirements of time, place > and people... the sage has no self-identity > to interfere with or obstruct the apparent > flow of the real. Well said - although I think the word " seeming " above is unnecessary. > tim, friends, remember: the hardest delusion > to overcome is the illusion of disillusion. > > > respectfully, > > yosy Thanks Yosy, although my thing isn't to remember thoughts/quotes these days. Memorized sayings get one nowhere - in fact, thought is ignorance. Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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