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, " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

>

> , " yosyx " <yosyflug@> wrote:

> >

> > , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> >

> > > I think it can also be looked at as Self-ful love as well.

When

> we

> > > realize others are really my Self, we treat others as we want

to

> be

> > > treated - with care, with compassion, with love. Others become

> > > inclusive to us - it isn't 'me and you', you're not my 'object'

> any

> > > more. We are both the supreme Subject, the " I-I " .

> > >

> >

> >

> > this precisely is your self-delusion, tim.

> > the incomprehensible self/truth/love is

> > really boundless, indefinable and ever

> > unrestricted. and of course unconditional.

>

> I don't see how I denied any of the above, yosy. Could you explain

> to me what the word " this " (first word in paragraph above) is

> referring to, exactly?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

" this " refers to the whole quote, beginning

>> I think it can also be looked at <<...

" i think, therefore i am mistaken " (yosy).

no thought can reach the truth; but, otoh,

identifying with it (or the thinker), however

subtle, is still self identification.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> Then maybe we could discuss the subject

> instead of just reading your declaration that I'm deluded.

>

> > in realization there is no " me " to treat

> > nor " others " to be treated; in the one

> > all-perviding and timeless reality there

> > is no seperation. it is ever whole and

> > indivisible.

>

> Indeed so.

>

> > seeming compassion, love,

> > anger etc occur naturally and spontaneously,

> > according to the requirements of time, place

> > and people... the sage has no self-identity

> > to interfere with or obstruct the apparent

> > flow of the real.

>

> Well said - although I think the word " seeming " above is

unnecessary.

>

 

 

 

 

 

:) apparently.

 

 

 

 

 

 

> > tim, friends, remember: the hardest delusion

> > to overcome is the illusion of disillusion.

> >

> >

> > respectfully,

> >

> > yosy

>

> Thanks Yosy, although my thing isn't to remember thoughts/quotes

> these days. Memorized sayings get one nowhere - in fact, thought

is

> ignorance.

>

 

 

 

 

 

precisely, tim. this is so indeed. :)) but

luckily, thinking or not, we are always

what we are... " the true always is, the

untrue never has existence " , as the beloved

bhagwadgita says.

 

hehehe so, don't think. enjoy it!

 

 

 

> Tim

>

 

 

 

:) thank you,

 

yosy

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