Guest guest Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 Dear Sangha Members: Recently I have received private e-mails from Bhagavan devotees questioning me for the way this list is being managed and for my allowing diverse views which may be perceived to be in conflict with Bhagavan's teachings. Also, I have received questions on why the list page says that the sangha is blessed by Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi. First, I want to offer my most sincere apologies to any Bhagavan devotees whom I have offended with my recent comments or any comments. I am simply expressing my views truthfully as best as I can. Second, yes, I feel the sangha is blessed by Sri Bhagavan and the list page stating that is perfectly OK with me. Others are free to have their own views. Blessings of Bhagavan are eternal and everywhere and Bhagavan's Grace is not bound by time and space and is freely available. Third, as far as the management of the list goes, I am doing the best I can. If it does not meet the expectations of some Bhagavan devotees, I am so very sorry but don't know what to do about that. Fourth, one very sincere Bhagavan devotee recently wrote to me suggested deleting the list. My feeling is that all things have their origins in Bhagavan and then dissolve in Bhagavan who sits in the Heart of all beings who is the indeed the Heart. The true way is natural and flowing and stream of clear water of wisdom nourishes and satisfies the thirst of all who drink from it. We are Bhagavan's sangha. That Sangha is eternal and unlimited. The list is only a small reflection of that large Sangha. Whether it stays or goes, we are all one Heart. Yours in Bhagavan Namaste and love to all Harsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 , " Harsha " wrote: > > Dear Sangha Members: > > > > Recently I have received private e-mails from Bhagavan devotees questioning > me for the way this list is being managed and for my allowing diverse views > which may be perceived to be in conflict with Bhagavan's teachings. Also, I > have received questions on why the list page says that the sangha is > blessed by Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi. > > > > First, I want to offer my most sincere apologies to any Bhagavan devotees > whom I have offended with my recent comments or any comments. I am simply > expressing my views truthfully as best as I can. > > > > Second, yes, I feel the sangha is blessed by Sri Bhagavan and the list > page stating that is perfectly OK with me. Others are free to have their own > views. Blessings of Bhagavan are eternal and everywhere and Bhagavan's Grace > is not bound by time and space and is freely available. > > > > Third, as far as the management of the list goes, I am doing the best I can. > If it does not meet the expectations of some Bhagavan devotees, I am so very > sorry but don't know what to do about that. > > > > Fourth, one very sincere Bhagavan devotee recently wrote to me suggested > deleting the list. My feeling is that all things have their origins in > Bhagavan and then dissolve in Bhagavan who sits in the Heart of all beings > who is the indeed the Heart. The true way is natural and flowing and stream > of clear water of wisdom nourishes and satisfies the thirst of all who drink > from it. > > > > We are Bhagavan's sangha. That Sangha is eternal and unlimited. The list is > only a small reflection of that large Sangha. Whether it stays or goes, we > are all one Heart. > > > > > > Yours in Bhagavan > > Namaste and love to all > > Harsha > dear harsha, anyone: i fully concur with every word you say, brother. and thank you for providing this wonderful caravanserai, where friends of THE friend of friends, our beloved ramanaji, can meet, relax, and freely chat and share their insights. thanks for your open heart, and also for your fearless sincerity and honesty. _()_ yosy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 Dear Harsha As with yosy, you have my full support too. I find this list a very helpful element of my study and practice of Sri Ramana's teachings. Many thanks. Peace and love Raph , " yosyx " <yosyflug wrote: > > , " Harsha " <harsha@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sangha Members: > > > > > > > > Recently I have received private e-mails from Bhagavan devotees > questioning > > me for the way this list is being managed and for my allowing > diverse views > > which may be perceived to be in conflict with Bhagavan's teachings. > Also, I > > have received questions on why the list page says that the > sangha is > > blessed by Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi. > > > > > > > > First, I want to offer my most sincere apologies to any Bhagavan > devotees > > whom I have offended with my recent comments or any comments. I am > simply > > expressing my views truthfully as best as I can. > > > > > > > > Second, yes, I feel the sangha is blessed by Sri Bhagavan and the > list > > page stating that is perfectly OK with me. Others are free to have > their own > > views. Blessings of Bhagavan are eternal and everywhere and > Bhagavan's Grace > > is not bound by time and space and is freely available. > > > > > > > > Third, as far as the management of the list goes, I am doing the > best I can. > > If it does not meet the expectations of some Bhagavan devotees, I > am so very > > sorry but don't know what to do about that. > > > > > > > > Fourth, one very sincere Bhagavan devotee recently wrote to me > suggested > > deleting the list. My feeling is that all things have their origins > in > > Bhagavan and then dissolve in Bhagavan who sits in the Heart of all > beings > > who is the indeed the Heart. The true way is natural and flowing > and stream > > of clear water of wisdom nourishes and satisfies the thirst of all > who drink > > from it. > > > > > > > > We are Bhagavan's sangha. That Sangha is eternal and unlimited. The > list is > > only a small reflection of that large Sangha. Whether it stays or > goes, we > > are all one Heart. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yours in Bhagavan > > > > Namaste and love to all > > > > Harsha > > > > > > dear harsha, anyone: i fully concur with > every word you say, brother. and thank you > for providing this wonderful caravanserai, > where friends of THE friend of friends, our > beloved ramanaji, can meet, relax, and freely > chat and share their insights. > > thanks for your open heart, and also for your > fearless sincerity and honesty. > > _()_ > yosy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 My dear Harsha, Pleade don't be disturbed by any celestial policemen who have puritanical views on what is permited or not permited on a Ramana Maharshi list. As the list is not too strictly moderated it allows a freedom of expression, with out fear of being shot down by some self styled pandit. Ramana allowed great freedom to his devotees, and spoke to them from where they were. He even told one humble villager he should worship idols, and was criticised by some devotees for this statement. but Ramana was emphatic that by encouragiung his idol worship, this devotee would eventually find devotion and be led on. This group accomodates beginners as well as advanced devotees so people who need some clarification can be helped from experience rather than theory. That freedom allows for creativity, humour, debate, poetry, prose and dissagreement. Why not? There are groups where restrictions inhibit more diffident devotees from coming forward. so carry on Harsha, we love and trust you, and your popularity with over 11oo members speaks for itself. I for one know you are a sincere Ramana Bhakta and Sadhak, I can tell by your postings. If I thought for one minute you were not, I wouldn't be here. We have nothing to fear providing we practice Self Enquiry earnestly, and surrender to the great power of our own ever gracious and loving Self. As ever, Your brother in Bhagavan, Alan , " yosyx " <yosyflug wrote: > > , " Harsha " harsha@ wrote: > > > > Dear Sangha Members: > > > > > > > > Recently I have received private e-mails from Bhagavan devotees > questioning > > me for the way this list is being managed and for my allowing > diverse views > > which may be perceived to be in conflict with Bhagavan's teachings. > Also, I > > have received questions on why the list page says that the > sangha is > > blessed by Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi. > > > > > > > > First, I want to offer my most sincere apologies to any Bhagavan > devotees > > whom I have offended with my recent comments or any comments. I am > simply > > expressing my views truthfully as best as I can. > > > > > > > > Second, yes, I feel the sangha is blessed by Sri Bhagavan and the > list > > page stating that is perfectly OK with me. Others are free to have > their own > > views. Blessings of Bhagavan are eternal and everywhere and > Bhagavan's Grace > > is not bound by time and space and is freely available. > > > > > > > > Third, as far as the management of the list goes, I am doing the > best I can. > > If it does not meet the expectations of some Bhagavan devotees, I > am so very > > sorry but don't know what to do about that. > > > > > > > > Fourth, one very sincere Bhagavan devotee recently wrote to me > suggested > > deleting the list. My feeling is that all things have their origins > in > > Bhagavan and then dissolve in Bhagavan who sits in the Heart of all > beings > > who is the indeed the Heart. The true way is natural and flowing > and stream > > of clear water of wisdom nourishes and satisfies the thirst of all > who drink > > from it. > > > > > > > > We are Bhagavan's sangha. That Sangha is eternal and unlimited. The > list is > > only a small reflection of that large Sangha. Whether it stays or > goes, we > > are all one Heart. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yours in Bhagavan > > > > Namaste and love to all > > > > Harsha > > > > > > dear harsha, anyone: i fully concur with > every word you say, brother. and thank you > for providing this wonderful caravanserai, > where friends of THE friend of friends, our > beloved ramanaji, can meet, relax, and freely > chat and share their insights. > > thanks for your open heart, and also for your > fearless sincerity and honesty. > > _()_ > yosy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 Dear Harsha This is our first communication. First, I would like to express my gratitude to all members of this list, Yourself,Alan, Michael, Yosy and all. I have been visiting lists for sometime, I never felt home except with the brohers in this list. Love, understanding and insight is the air and atmosphere of the list. It is something that I have never met before in , I think it is Sri Raman's Blessings that caused this air of love and understanding. Moreover, the openness and free expression of what is in our hearts for the sake of helping ourselves on the path -By the blessings of Sri Ramana and all other sages- is very well apparent in this list. I would join Yosy and Alan and say that this is a list for the Love of God. The Love and understanding are the two wings man will use to soar to the Divine. Thank you Harsha for offering me as well as to my brothers on the way this list. God Bles mourad , " Harsha " wrote: > > Dear Sangha Members: > > > > Recently I have received private e-mails from Bhagavan devotees questioning > me for the way this list is being managed and for my allowing diverse views > which may be perceived to be in conflict with Bhagavan's teachings. Also, I > have received questions on why the list page says that the sangha is > blessed by Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi. > > > > First, I want to offer my most sincere apologies to any Bhagavan devotees > whom I have offended with my recent comments or any comments. I am simply > expressing my views truthfully as best as I can. > > > > Second, yes, I feel the sangha is blessed by Sri Bhagavan and the list > page stating that is perfectly OK with me. Others are free to have their own > views. Blessings of Bhagavan are eternal and everywhere and Bhagavan's Grace > is not bound by time and space and is freely available. > > > > Third, as far as the management of the list goes, I am doing the best I can. > If it does not meet the expectations of some Bhagavan devotees, I am so very > sorry but don't know what to do about that. > > > > Fourth, one very sincere Bhagavan devotee recently wrote to me suggested > deleting the list. My feeling is that all things have their origins in > Bhagavan and then dissolve in Bhagavan who sits in the Heart of all beings > who is the indeed the Heart. The true way is natural and flowing and stream > of clear water of wisdom nourishes and satisfies the thirst of all who drink > from it. > > > > We are Bhagavan's sangha. That Sangha is eternal and unlimited. The list is > only a small reflection of that large Sangha. Whether it stays or goes, we > are all one Heart. > > > > > > Yours in Bhagavan > > Namaste and love to all > > Harsha > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 Who among us know all the words that Ramana Maharshi expressed? Many of Bhagavan's words are known and many of his words are perhaps unknown..... The Self is the Self of ALL... The Self expresses ItSelf through devotees (whomever and whatever they may be) ... And the Self expresses ItSelf through non-devotees too (whomever and whatever they may be)... There is no fear in the Self... The Self is not limited.... Harsha, Dear Friend, do not be dissuaded by those who are limited by ignorance.. Carry on in the freedom that you have found..... _____ On Behalf Of Harsha Sunday, May 18, 2008 6:57 AM Bhagavan Devotees/Sangha Members Dear Sangha Members: Recently I have received private e-mails from Bhagavan devotees questioning me for the way this list is being managed and for my allowing diverse views which may be perceived to be in conflict with Bhagavan's teachings. Also, I have received questions on why the list page says that the sangha is blessed by Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi. First, I want to offer my most sincere apologies to any Bhagavan devotees whom I have offended with my recent comments or any comments. I am simply expressing my views truthfully as best as I can. Second, yes, I feel the sangha is blessed by Sri Bhagavan and the list page stating that is perfectly OK with me. Others are free to have their own views. Blessings of Bhagavan are eternal and everywhere and Bhagavan's Grace is not bound by time and space and is freely available. Third, as far as the management of the list goes, I am doing the best I can. If it does not meet the expectations of some Bhagavan devotees, I am so very sorry but don't know what to do about that. Fourth, one very sincere Bhagavan devotee recently wrote to me suggested deleting the list. My feeling is that all things have their origins in Bhagavan and then dissolve in Bhagavan who sits in the Heart of all beings who is the indeed the Heart. The true way is natural and flowing and stream of clear water of wisdom nourishes and satisfies the thirst of all who drink from it. We are Bhagavan's sangha. That Sangha is eternal and unlimited. The list is only a small reflection of that large Sangha. Whether it stays or goes, we are all one Heart. Yours in Bhagavan Namaste and love to all Harsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 As far as I can see all is well : ) Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 vanakkam harsha! this list resonates differently to different members.... and the spiritual maturity as well as the temperament that goes along with it varies from member to member... as seekers of The SELF, let us not perceive in a dualistic-mode... we have to pay attention to the EFFORT in seeking to the Source of every thought...thats the fundamental reason why we are all blessed by The Grace of Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi to be " here " ... lets not be bogged by the trivialities of everydayness... yellaam Bhagavanukku samarpanam anbudan Harsha wrote: Dear Sangha Members: Recently I have received private e-mails from Bhagavan devotees questioning me for the way this list is being managed and for my allowing diverse views which may be perceived to be in conflict with Bhagavan's teachings. Also, I have received questions on why the list page says that the sangha is blessed by Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi. First, I want to offer my most sincere apologies to any Bhagavan devotees whom I have offended with my recent comments or any comments. I am simply expressing my views truthfully as best as I can. Second, yes, I feel the sangha is blessed by Sri Bhagavan and the list page stating that is perfectly OK with me. Others are free to have their own views. Blessings of Bhagavan are eternal and everywhere and Bhagavan's Grace is not bound by time and space and is freely available. Third, as far as the management of the list goes, I am doing the best I can. If it does not meet the expectations of some Bhagavan devotees, I am so very sorry but don't know what to do about that. Fourth, one very sincere Bhagavan devotee recently wrote to me suggested deleting the list. My feeling is that all things have their origins in Bhagavan and then dissolve in Bhagavan who sits in the Heart of all beings who is the indeed the Heart. The true way is natural and flowing and stream of clear water of wisdom nourishes and satisfies the thirst of all who drink from it. We are Bhagavan's sangha. That Sangha is eternal and unlimited. The list is only a small reflection of that large Sangha. Whether it stays or goes, we are all one Heart. Yours in Bhagavan Namaste and love to all Harsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 Dear wonderful friends, Yosy, NoName (aumshanti), Raph, Mourad, Mango Tree, Alan, Richard, David, and others who have written to me. Thank you for your wise words and encouragement. I am grateful for your presence and company. Yours in Bhagavan Namaste and love to all Harsha On Behalf Of mango tree Sunday, May 18, 2008 10:04 PM Re: Bhagavan Devotees/Sangha Members vanakkam harsha! this list resonates differently to different members.... and the spiritual maturity as well as the temperament that goes along with it varies from member to member... as seekers of The SELF, let us not perceive in a dualistic-mode... we have to pay attention to the EFFORT in seeking to the Source of every thought...thats the fundamental reason why we are all blessed by The Grace of Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi to be " here " ... lets not be bogged by the trivialities of everydayness... yellaam Bhagavanukku samarpanam anbudan Harsha wrote: Dear Sangha Members: Recently I have received private e-mails from Bhagavan devotees questioning me for the way this list is being managed and for my allowing diverse views which may be perceived to be in conflict with Bhagavan's teachings. Also, I have received questions on why the list page says that the sangha is blessed by Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi. First, I want to offer my most sincere apologies to any Bhagavan devotees whom I have offended with my recent comments or any comments. I am simply expressing my views truthfully as best as I can. Second, yes, I feel the sangha is blessed by Sri Bhagavan and the list page stating that is perfectly OK with me. Others are free to have their own views. Blessings of Bhagavan are eternal and everywhere and Bhagavan's Grace is not bound by time and space and is freely available. Third, as far as the management of the list goes, I am doing the best I can. If it does not meet the expectations of some Bhagavan devotees, I am so very sorry but don't know what to do about that. Fourth, one very sincere Bhagavan devotee recently wrote to me suggested deleting the list. My feeling is that all things have their origins in Bhagavan and then dissolve in Bhagavan who sits in the Heart of all beings who is the indeed the Heart. The true way is natural and flowing and stream of clear water of wisdom nourishes and satisfies the thirst of all who drink from it. We are Bhagavan's sangha. That Sangha is eternal and unlimited. The list is only a small reflection of that large Sangha. Whether it stays or goes, we are all one Heart. Yours in Bhagavan Namaste and love to all Harsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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