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Hi Ryan,

 

Thanks for this. It is extremely useful. However I sometimes try to practice

this (being silent). But i feel i go in loops, I very much " try " to keep silent.

after I read Nisargadatta's message, evening " trying " is a function of mind. so

now i " try to give up trying " which again i feel is a function of mind. and

hence how ever i try (or " be " ) to keep silent, it is still trying (or " being " ).

I could not truly be silent.

Can some one help me on this please.

 

 

Also i have another question:

At other times (when doing other activities like driving, walking, eating, etc)

there are these thoughts (thinking) of past actions or actions that should have

been performed so as to gain something or to avoid something. (literally like I

should have done like this, I will do like this, or about other events). These

thoughts are based and come verbally like I am conversing with my self inside

verbally. I also sometimes in the same way pray to god inside (like " oh god

please ..... " or " oh god why did you do like this... " )

 

I become occupied with these at times that I lose cognizance of things happing

outside and even miss out on details while conversing with others. I am slowing

beginning to understand that something is not right here. From long time i used

to consider this as a good thing as I am in discussion with my self planning

things out. but it pains as it becomes uncontrolled and intense.

 

Are these termed thoughts?

if i have to give up these then i have to give up myself (i feel the person who

converses and says " i will do this " is strongly me)? If so then how is chanting

done? it is verbally inside.

how is thinking done for making day to day decisions. is it verbally or with

non-verbally?

How is it then keeping silent done?

 

 

Thanks in advance.

sunil

 

 

RYAN RAMKISSOON <rvr2000tt wrote: It is a

fact that man then first loses consciousness of the feet and then of the lower

part of his body until at last he is aware only within his head.

 

This is the crucial moment when the world which ordinarily filters through the

five senses into consciousness,disappears. Only after this does he suddenly

lapse into sleep. It is the pause here for a fraction of a second which has to

be detected by extreme vigilance.

 

The attention must be kept from straying and held so acutely that the bed,the

room and even the body become dulled to the point of obliteration.The student

should try to overcome the all round loss of consciousness,to conquer the

overpowering swoon which comes with sleep.

 

He cannot prevent sleep for Nature's habit must have her course,but he can

prevent the fall into ignorance of what is happening to him during the passage

into the new state. HE must try to keep his awareness and to mremain in it even

whilst his body and thinking faculty are completely at rest.

 

He must observe himself and be more than watchful against the tremulous coming

of sleep in that delectable borderland through which he passes,in those

fluttering fractions of a moment which time the passage from gross wakefulness

to profound slumber.

 

If this is the crucial moment when a man will lose this tiny seed of awareness

and fall into sleep as almost all men do,it is also the critical moment when

through advanced yoga practice he could enter into the Light itself.Those alone

who taken the trouble to practise these exercises are best entitled to say what

practical possibilities they contain or whether they will " work " or not.

 

But this pause between 2 states technically termed " the neutral point " ,is as

brief as a flash of lightning.If he succeeds in seizing and keeping hold of

it,he may pass from this stage into the pure Mind-the background of all his

conscious thought moments-and retain it as a mere glimmer of utter emptiness

throughout the night.

 

.....The fourth state will come upon him unawares,that is he will not be

conscious of his actual entry into it. One moment he will be in the ordinary

wakeful state and the next moment he will be in the transcendental one.The

process of transition will take place in the sphere outside his own

consciousness.He will then discover himself to be in a new world of being.The

momentary consciousness has become a footprint which has led him to the hidden

self whence it originated.

 

Whosoever can succeed in this practice will find that the sublime beatitude of

the transcendental consciousness will be intermittently present throughout the

most feverish activities of the day and full so throughout the slumber of the

night.

 

The curious thing about the hidden observer is that it is very much awake when

we are very much asleep,as it is perfectly conscious when we are utterly

unconscious.

 

It is the " I " which is ever aware and consequently our real self.

 

It hovers in a sort of watchful self-contemplation,never losing hold on itself

and consequently never falling into the oblivion of ordinary sleep.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Sunil,

 

Some thoughts:

 

If you are trying to be silent, there is still the 'you' that is

trying. Ramana might have suggested that you look in to the " I " that

is trying to be silent. You might ask, " For whom is this silence? "

Investigation of your sense of identity is what is called for. The

Silence that is, as Ramana said, 'where no " I " arises " comes though

inquiry. Who knows the silence? " Who am I? "

 

Also you talk about the sense that " I feel the person who converses

and says " i will do this " is strongly me. " It is the body that

converse (the body as the organ of action, etc.) Are you this body?

Ramana said that misidentification with the body is the chief

misidentification. This misidentification can be be uprooted, also

through identity. Who knows the body? Does it know itself? Does the

sense of " I " rise from the body, or is it projected onto the body?

" Who am I? "

 

You see here the problem with the sense of identity. As you see

yourself, so you see the world. Imagine yourself to be a body or a

doer, then the world is filled with other bodies and doers.

 

So inquire. And in inquiry look for what is always there. If there is

something that comes and goes, can that be who you are? Your sense ob

being has not changed through any of this. " Who am I? "

 

Om Arunachala,

Richard

 

, Sunil Babu <sunilbabu03 wrote:

>

> Hi Ryan,

>

> Thanks for this. It is extremely useful. However I sometimes try to

practice this (being silent). But i feel i go in loops, I very much

" try " to keep silent. after I read Nisargadatta's message, evening

" trying " is a function of mind. so now i " try to give up trying " which

again i feel is a function of mind. and hence how ever i try (or " be " )

to keep silent, it is still trying (or " being " ). I could not truly be

silent.

> Can some one help me on this please.

>

>

> Also i have another question:

> At other times (when doing other activities like driving, walking,

eating, etc) there are these thoughts (thinking) of past actions or

actions that should have been performed so as to gain something or to

avoid something. (literally like I should have done like this, I will

do like this, or about other events). These thoughts are based and

come verbally like I am conversing with my self inside verbally. I

also sometimes in the same way pray to god inside (like " oh god please

...... " or " oh god why did you do like this... " )

>

> I become occupied with these at times that I lose cognizance of

things happing outside and even miss out on details while conversing

with others. I am slowing beginning to understand that something is

not right here. From long time i used to consider this as a good thing

as I am in discussion with my self planning things out. but it pains

as it becomes uncontrolled and intense.

>

> Are these termed thoughts?

> if i have to give up these then i have to give up myself (i feel the

person who converses and says " i will do this " is strongly me)? If so

then how is chanting done? it is verbally inside.

> how is thinking done for making day to day decisions. is it verbally

or with non-verbally?

> How is it then keeping silent done?

>

>

> Thanks in advance.

> sunil

>

>

> RYAN RAMKISSOON <rvr2000tt wrote:

It is a fact that man then first loses consciousness of the feet and

then of the lower part of his body until at last he is aware only

within his head.

>

> This is the crucial moment when the world which ordinarily filters

through the five senses into consciousness,disappears. Only after this

does he suddenly lapse into sleep. It is the pause here for a fraction

of a second which has to be detected by extreme vigilance.

>

> The attention must be kept from straying and held so acutely that

the bed,the room and even the body become dulled to the point of

obliteration.The student should try to overcome the all round loss of

consciousness,to conquer the overpowering swoon which comes with sleep.

>

> He cannot prevent sleep for Nature's habit must have her course,but

he can prevent the fall into ignorance of what is happening to him

during the passage into the new state. HE must try to keep his

awareness and to mremain in it even whilst his body and thinking

faculty are completely at rest.

>

> He must observe himself and be more than watchful against the

tremulous coming of sleep in that delectable borderland through which

he passes,in those fluttering fractions of a moment which time the

passage from gross wakefulness to profound slumber.

>

> If this is the crucial moment when a man will lose this tiny seed

of awareness and fall into sleep as almost all men do,it is also the

critical moment when through advanced yoga practice he could enter

into the Light itself.Those alone who taken the trouble to practise

these exercises are best entitled to say what practical possibilities

they contain or whether they will " work " or not.

>

> But this pause between 2 states technically termed " the neutral

point " ,is as brief as a flash of lightning.If he succeeds in seizing

and keeping hold of it,he may pass from this stage into the pure

Mind-the background of all his conscious thought moments-and retain it

as a mere glimmer of utter emptiness throughout the night.

>

> .....The fourth state will come upon him unawares,that is he will

not be conscious of his actual entry into it. One moment he will be in

the ordinary wakeful state and the next moment he will be in the

transcendental one.The process of transition will take place in the

sphere outside his own consciousness.He will then discover himself to

be in a new world of being.The momentary consciousness has become a

footprint which has led him to the hidden self whence it originated.

>

> Whosoever can succeed in this practice will find that the sublime

beatitude of the transcendental consciousness will be intermittently

present throughout the most feverish activities of the day and full so

throughout the slumber of the night.

>

> The curious thing about the hidden observer is that it is very much

awake when we are very much asleep,as it is perfectly conscious when

we are utterly unconscious.

>

> It is the " I " which is ever aware and consequently our real self.

>

> It hovers in a sort of watchful self-contemplation,never losing

hold on itself and consequently never falling into the oblivion of

ordinary sleep.

>

 

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, Sunil Babu <sunilbabu03

wrote:

>

> Hi Ryan,

>

> Thanks for this. It is extremely useful. However I sometimes try

to practice this (being silent). But i feel i go in loops, I very

much " try " to keep silent. after I read Nisargadatta's message,

evening " trying " is a function of mind. so now i " try to give up

trying " which again i feel is a function of mind. and hence how ever

i try (or " be " ) to keep silent, it is still trying (or " being " ). I

could not truly be silent.

> Can some one help me on this please.

- - -- ---- ---- --- ---

mourad: Be as you are. Do not try anything. Live your life as you

are. It is enough that your heart has changed and you are following

the spiritual path. Things will fall into order bi themselves.

--- ---- ---- ---

 

 

> Also i have another question:

> At other times (when doing other activities like driving, walking,

eating, etc) there are these thoughts (thinking) of past actions or

actions that should have been performed so as to gain something or

to avoid something. (literally like I should have done like this, I

will do like this, or about other events). These thoughts are based

and come verbally like I am conversing with my self inside verbally.

I also sometimes in the same way pray to god inside (like " oh god

please ..... " or " oh god why did you do like this... " )

>

> I become occupied with these at times that I lose cognizance of

things happing outside and even miss out on details while conversing

with others. I am slowing beginning to understand that something is

not right here. From long time i used to consider this as a good

thing as I am in discussion with my self planning things out. but it

pains as it becomes uncontrolled and intense.

>

> Are these termed thoughts?

-- -- - --- ----- ---- ------- -----

mourad: This internal dialogue. Everyone has it, it is not peculiar

to you alone. This inner dialogue is noise -at least that is how I

term it. Be attentive to phenomenal appearances. I remember, when I

was invited outside with people; in the begining I used to look and

be with the paintings on the walls, the designs of the carpets, the

curtains, the shapes of the drinking glasses, the serving

dishes.Later on I began to look at the guests themselves, their

faces, the watches they were wearing, thei jewlarym, their suits and

dresses. Still later on, I saw the expressions of the faces and then

I satrted to recognize, if the expression is genuine of faked.

To be attentive to external phenomena was my solution.

---- --- ---- ---------- ---- ------

 

> if i have to give up these then i have to give up myself (i feel

the person who converses and says " i will do this " is strongly me)?

If so then how is chanting done? it is verbally inside.

> how is thinking done for making day to day decisions. is it

verbally or with non-verbally?

> How is it then keeping silent done?

---- ---- ---- ----- -- ------ -

mourad:At the end of the journey, everuone of us will give himself

up. It is not a decision, it occurs on its own. This happens when

you see clearly that there is no use of " me " . Therfore, holding on

to myself becomes a burden,accordingly it is given up, it drops

away. I remember reading Sri Ramana saying: " Gently, Gently, persude

yourself to give up " .

---- ----- ------- ------- ---- ---

Thank you friend.

mourad

 

 

 

> Thanks in advance.

> sunil

>

>

> RYAN RAMKISSOON <rvr2000tt wrote:

It is a fact that man then first loses consciousness of the feet and

then of the lower part of his body until at last he is aware only

within his head.

>

> This is the crucial moment when the world which ordinarily

filters through the five senses into consciousness,disappears. Only

after this does he suddenly lapse into sleep. It is the pause here

for a fraction of a second which has to be detected by extreme

vigilance.

>

> The attention must be kept from straying and held so acutely that

the bed,the room and even the body become dulled to the point of

obliteration.The student should try to overcome the all round loss

of consciousness,to conquer the overpowering swoon which comes with

sleep.

>

> He cannot prevent sleep for Nature's habit must have her

course,but he can prevent the fall into ignorance of what is

happening to him during the passage into the new state. HE must try

to keep his awareness and to mremain in it even whilst his body and

thinking faculty are completely at rest.

>

> He must observe himself and be more than watchful against the

tremulous coming of sleep in that delectable borderland through

which he passes,in those fluttering fractions of a moment which time

the passage from gross wakefulness to profound slumber.

>

> If this is the crucial moment when a man will lose this tiny seed

of awareness and fall into sleep as almost all men do,it is also the

critical moment when through advanced yoga practice he could enter

into the Light itself.Those alone who taken the trouble to practise

these exercises are best entitled to say what practical

possibilities they contain or whether they will " work " or not.

>

> But this pause between 2 states technically termed " the neutral

point " ,is as brief as a flash of lightning.If he succeeds in seizing

and keeping hold of it,he may pass from this stage into the pure

Mind-the background of all his conscious thought moments-and retain

it as a mere glimmer of utter emptiness throughout the night.

>

> .....The fourth state will come upon him unawares,that is he will

not be conscious of his actual entry into it. One moment he will be

in the ordinary wakeful state and the next moment he will be in the

transcendental one.The process of transition will take place in the

sphere outside his own consciousness.He will then discover himself

to be in a new world of being.The momentary consciousness has become

a footprint which has led him to the hidden self whence it

originated.

>

> Whosoever can succeed in this practice will find that the sublime

beatitude of the transcendental consciousness will be intermittently

present throughout the most feverish activities of the day and full

so throughout the slumber of the night.

>

> The curious thing about the hidden observer is that it is very

much awake when we are very much asleep,as it is perfectly conscious

when we are utterly unconscious.

>

> It is the " I " which is ever aware and consequently our real self.

>

> It hovers in a sort of watchful self-contemplation,never losing

hold on itself and consequently never falling into the oblivion of

ordinary sleep.

>

 

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Dear Mourad,

 

Thanks a lot for these pointers. I will try to incorporate them and try my best

to get away from me.

 

Sunil

 

mourad <mourad_shamel wrote: Hello Sunil

Comment is between lines

 

, Sunil Babu <sunilbabu03

wrote:

>

> Hi Ryan,

>

> Thanks for this. It is extremely useful. However I sometimes try

to practice this (being silent). But i feel i go in loops, I very

much " try " to keep silent. after I read Nisargadatta's message,

evening " trying " is a function of mind. so now i " try to give up

trying " which again i feel is a function of mind. and hence how ever

i try (or " be " ) to keep silent, it is still trying (or " being " ). I

could not truly be silent.

> Can some one help me on this please.

- - -- ---- ---- --- ---

mourad: Be as you are. Do not try anything. Live your life as you

are. It is enough that your heart has changed and you are following

the spiritual path. Things will fall into order bi themselves.

--- ---- ---- ---

 

 

> Also i have another question:

> At other times (when doing other activities like driving, walking,

eating, etc) there are these thoughts (thinking) of past actions or

actions that should have been performed so as to gain something or

to avoid something. (literally like I should have done like this, I

will do like this, or about other events). These thoughts are based

and come verbally like I am conversing with my self inside verbally.

I also sometimes in the same way pray to god inside (like " oh god

please ..... " or " oh god why did you do like this... " )

>

> I become occupied with these at times that I lose cognizance of

things happing outside and even miss out on details while conversing

with others. I am slowing beginning to understand that something is

not right here. From long time i used to consider this as a good

thing as I am in discussion with my self planning things out. but it

pains as it becomes uncontrolled and intense.

>

> Are these termed thoughts?

-- -- - --- ----- ---- ------- -----

mourad: This internal dialogue. Everyone has it, it is not peculiar

to you alone. This inner dialogue is noise -at least that is how I

term it. Be attentive to phenomenal appearances. I remember, when I

was invited outside with people; in the begining I used to look and

be with the paintings on the walls, the designs of the carpets, the

curtains, the shapes of the drinking glasses, the serving

dishes.Later on I began to look at the guests themselves, their

faces, the watches they were wearing, thei jewlarym, their suits and

dresses. Still later on, I saw the expressions of the faces and then

I satrted to recognize, if the expression is genuine of faked.

To be attentive to external phenomena was my solution.

---- --- ---- ---------- ---- ------

 

> if i have to give up these then i have to give up myself (i feel

the person who converses and says " i will do this " is strongly me)?

If so then how is chanting done? it is verbally inside.

> how is thinking done for making day to day decisions. is it

verbally or with non-verbally?

> How is it then keeping silent done?

---- ---- ---- ----- -- ------ -

mourad:At the end of the journey, everuone of us will give himself

up. It is not a decision, it occurs on its own. This happens when

you see clearly that there is no use of " me " . Therfore, holding on

to myself becomes a burden,accordingly it is given up, it drops

away. I remember reading Sri Ramana saying: " Gently, Gently, persude

yourself to give up " .

---- ----- ------- ------- ---- ---

Thank you friend.

mourad

 

> Thanks in advance.

> sunil

>

>

> RYAN RAMKISSOON <rvr2000tt wrote:

It is a fact that man then first loses consciousness of the feet and

then of the lower part of his body until at last he is aware only

within his head.

>

> This is the crucial moment when the world which ordinarily

filters through the five senses into consciousness,disappears. Only

after this does he suddenly lapse into sleep. It is the pause here

for a fraction of a second which has to be detected by extreme

vigilance.

>

> The attention must be kept from straying and held so acutely that

the bed,the room and even the body become dulled to the point of

obliteration.The student should try to overcome the all round loss

of consciousness,to conquer the overpowering swoon which comes with

sleep.

>

> He cannot prevent sleep for Nature's habit must have her

course,but he can prevent the fall into ignorance of what is

happening to him during the passage into the new state. HE must try

to keep his awareness and to mremain in it even whilst his body and

thinking faculty are completely at rest.

>

> He must observe himself and be more than watchful against the

tremulous coming of sleep in that delectable borderland through

which he passes,in those fluttering fractions of a moment which time

the passage from gross wakefulness to profound slumber.

>

> If this is the crucial moment when a man will lose this tiny seed

of awareness and fall into sleep as almost all men do,it is also the

critical moment when through advanced yoga practice he could enter

into the Light itself.Those alone who taken the trouble to practise

these exercises are best entitled to say what practical

possibilities they contain or whether they will " work " or not.

>

> But this pause between 2 states technically termed " the neutral

point " ,is as brief as a flash of lightning.If he succeeds in seizing

and keeping hold of it,he may pass from this stage into the pure

Mind-the background of all his conscious thought moments-and retain

it as a mere glimmer of utter emptiness throughout the night.

>

> .....The fourth state will come upon him unawares,that is he will

not be conscious of his actual entry into it. One moment he will be

in the ordinary wakeful state and the next moment he will be in the

transcendental one.The process of transition will take place in the

sphere outside his own consciousness.He will then discover himself

to be in a new world of being.The momentary consciousness has become

a footprint which has led him to the hidden self whence it

originated.

>

> Whosoever can succeed in this practice will find that the sublime

beatitude of the transcendental consciousness will be intermittently

present throughout the most feverish activities of the day and full

so throughout the slumber of the night.

>

> The curious thing about the hidden observer is that it is very

much awake when we are very much asleep,as it is perfectly conscious

when we are utterly unconscious.

>

> It is the " I " which is ever aware and consequently our real self.

>

> It hovers in a sort of watchful self-contemplation,never losing

hold on itself and consequently never falling into the oblivion of

ordinary sleep.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Sunil

You are welcomed. We are all here to help each other.

We can only offer an honest to God advice -nothing more. We can also

hope for blessings to shower and guide us. Man has to walk the path,

with the guiding Grace.

mourad

 

, Sunil Babu <sunilbabu03

wrote:

>

> Dear Mourad,

>

> Thanks a lot for these pointers. I will try to incorporate them

and try my best to get away from me.

>

> Sunil

>

> mourad <mourad_shamel wrote:

Hello Sunil

> Comment is between lines

>

> , Sunil Babu <sunilbabu03@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Ryan,

> >

> > Thanks for this. It is extremely useful. However I sometimes

try

> to practice this (being silent). But i feel i go in loops, I very

> much " try " to keep silent. after I read Nisargadatta's message,

> evening " trying " is a function of mind. so now i " try to give up

> trying " which again i feel is a function of mind. and hence how

ever

> i try (or " be " ) to keep silent, it is still trying (or " being " ).

I

> could not truly be silent.

> > Can some one help me on this please.

> - - -- ---- ---- --- ---

> mourad: Be as you are. Do not try anything. Live your life as you

> are. It is enough that your heart has changed and you are

following

> the spiritual path. Things will fall into order bi themselves.

> --- ---- ---- ---

>

>

> > Also i have another question:

> > At other times (when doing other activities like driving,

walking,

> eating, etc) there are these thoughts (thinking) of past actions

or

> actions that should have been performed so as to gain something

or

> to avoid something. (literally like I should have done like this,

I

> will do like this, or about other events). These thoughts are

based

> and come verbally like I am conversing with my self inside

verbally.

> I also sometimes in the same way pray to god inside (like " oh god

> please ..... " or " oh god why did you do like this... " )

> >

> > I become occupied with these at times that I lose cognizance of

> things happing outside and even miss out on details while

conversing

> with others. I am slowing beginning to understand that something

is

> not right here. From long time i used to consider this as a good

> thing as I am in discussion with my self planning things out. but

it

> pains as it becomes uncontrolled and intense.

> >

> > Are these termed thoughts?

> -- -- - --- ----- ---- ------- -----

> mourad: This internal dialogue. Everyone has it, it is not

peculiar

> to you alone. This inner dialogue is noise -at least that is how

I

> term it. Be attentive to phenomenal appearances. I remember, when

I

> was invited outside with people; in the begining I used to look

and

> be with the paintings on the walls, the designs of the carpets,

the

> curtains, the shapes of the drinking glasses, the serving

> dishes.Later on I began to look at the guests themselves, their

> faces, the watches they were wearing, thei jewlarym, their suits

and

> dresses. Still later on, I saw the expressions of the faces and

then

> I satrted to recognize, if the expression is genuine of faked.

> To be attentive to external phenomena was my solution.

> ---- --- ---- ---------- ---- -----

-

>

> > if i have to give up these then i have to give up myself (i

feel

> the person who converses and says " i will do this " is strongly

me)?

> If so then how is chanting done? it is verbally inside.

> > how is thinking done for making day to day decisions. is it

> verbally or with non-verbally?

> > How is it then keeping silent done?

> ---- ---- ---- ----- -- ------ -

> mourad:At the end of the journey, everuone of us will give

himself

> up. It is not a decision, it occurs on its own. This happens when

> you see clearly that there is no use of " me " . Therfore, holding

on

> to myself becomes a burden,accordingly it is given up, it drops

> away. I remember reading Sri Ramana saying: " Gently, Gently,

persude

> yourself to give up " .

> ---- ----- ------- ------- ---- ---

> Thank you friend.

> mourad

>

> > Thanks in advance.

> > sunil

> >

> >

> > RYAN RAMKISSOON <rvr2000tt@> wrote:

> It is a fact that man then first loses consciousness of the feet

and

> then of the lower part of his body until at last he is aware only

> within his head.

> >

> > This is the crucial moment when the world which ordinarily

> filters through the five senses into consciousness,disappears.

Only

> after this does he suddenly lapse into sleep. It is the pause

here

> for a fraction of a second which has to be detected by extreme

> vigilance.

> >

> > The attention must be kept from straying and held so acutely

that

> the bed,the room and even the body become dulled to the point of

> obliteration.The student should try to overcome the all round

loss

> of consciousness,to conquer the overpowering swoon which comes

with

> sleep.

> >

> > He cannot prevent sleep for Nature's habit must have her

> course,but he can prevent the fall into ignorance of what is

> happening to him during the passage into the new state. HE must

try

> to keep his awareness and to mremain in it even whilst his body

and

> thinking faculty are completely at rest.

> >

> > He must observe himself and be more than watchful against the

> tremulous coming of sleep in that delectable borderland through

> which he passes,in those fluttering fractions of a moment which

time

> the passage from gross wakefulness to profound slumber.

> >

> > If this is the crucial moment when a man will lose this tiny

seed

> of awareness and fall into sleep as almost all men do,it is also

the

> critical moment when through advanced yoga practice he could

enter

> into the Light itself.Those alone who taken the trouble to

practise

> these exercises are best entitled to say what practical

> possibilities they contain or whether they will " work " or not.

> >

> > But this pause between 2 states technically termed " the

neutral

> point " ,is as brief as a flash of lightning.If he succeeds in

seizing

> and keeping hold of it,he may pass from this stage into the pure

> Mind-the background of all his conscious thought moments-and

retain

> it as a mere glimmer of utter emptiness throughout the night.

> >

> > .....The fourth state will come upon him unawares,that is he

will

> not be conscious of his actual entry into it. One moment he will

be

> in the ordinary wakeful state and the next moment he will be in

the

> transcendental one.The process of transition will take place in

the

> sphere outside his own consciousness.He will then discover

himself

> to be in a new world of being.The momentary consciousness has

become

> a footprint which has led him to the hidden self whence it

> originated.

> >

> > Whosoever can succeed in this practice will find that the

sublime

> beatitude of the transcendental consciousness will be

intermittently

> present throughout the most feverish activities of the day and

full

> so throughout the slumber of the night.

> >

> > The curious thing about the hidden observer is that it is very

> much awake when we are very much asleep,as it is perfectly

conscious

> when we are utterly unconscious.

> >

> > It is the " I " which is ever aware and consequently our real

self.

> >

> > It hovers in a sort of watchful self-contemplation,never

losing

> hold on itself and consequently never falling into the oblivion

of

> ordinary sleep.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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