Guest guest Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 , Jonah Bekerman <jmarkb wrote: > > the truth is free but the people who help point the way need to pay rent ,eat food ,pay for a phone,computer,doctors bills etc.pretty basic stuff of relative reality.ones cynacism or anger against particular teachers neednt blind one to basic common sense of existence in america 2008 > hahahhaha excuses, excuses... how typically american, " new age " attitude. indeed. but reality isn't relative. appearances are. > > mourad <mourad_shamel wrote: > Dear Sadhaka > The teachings of the spirit are for the Love of God, not anything > else. > > mourad > of course, mourad my friend. absolutely. a true teacher takes what you do not have and gives you what is always yours. this is why the sage does his work and slips away unperceived. real masters are like thieves: only the ones caught are known. the best ones remain hidden. yet their blessed presence though unrecognized, continuously sustains the world. thank you, yosy nnb > , " sadhaka60 " <sadhaka60@> > wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > > > I had recently had a shock looking at the SAT-site > > and seeing the prices for the retreats by Nome (see the homepage > of > > SAT and go into the registration-formular: > > http://www.satramana.org/html/retreats.htm. > > Make the test! How do you feel? > > > > You can have the first-hand teaching of Ramana for a few dollars > if > > you get a Ramana-book from the bookshop - or even for free if > > downloaded from the Ramanashram-site. This money-rising is an > > unethical behavour of a teacher - I can't help it ... whatever may > > be told to justify this behavour. > > It is a rule in all religions and spiritual paths with says: do > not > > go somewhere, where a teacher looks for money. > > > > Ramana was completely against money-collecting - and he was very > > unhappy when devotees collected money for the construction of the > > temple of the mother. Here life and teaching is in one line - with > > Nome this seems not the case. > > > > I have come across several spirital teachers during my life - > though > > fortunately in the Christian area and not in the neo-Advaita- > scene! > > I must say - at least they did their best to live what they > taught. > > When I came across Ramana for the first time, I first had a look > at > > his life - then only at his teaching. If his life would have been > > questionable, Ramana would have been unacceptible here;) But > > fortunately and how wonderful - there is no difference with him > > between life and teaching. This is very! rare indeed. > > > > With Nome and many other new-age- and neo-advaita-teachers this > > seems not to be the case. They do not meet the necessary ethical > > requirements. Nome is questionable in many aspects, also if > Richard > > helds his flag very high and posts a smooth article on the blog, > > which hides many details in a spiritual cloak. If one digs deeper, > > one finds .... better not to tell. It makes one furious. > > This is not! a matter of different taste or views - it is a matter > > of truth and honesty! > > > > I came to know that there are Ramana-devotees, who are very > unhappy > > about this all here in this group, which calls itself a Ramana- > > group. That's one thing. > > > > The other is - that ... if one goes through the mailings, one > > wonders what it is all about. Is it about Ramana and understanding > > his teaching and doing sadhana or rather about self-proof and back- > > slapping. I don't know. > > I came here again to speak it out openly - whatever the reactions > > may be ... and not only discuss the matter with Harsha, as I was a > > member on this list over many years. The list was often out of > topic > > in the past as well - but it seems things have worsened and some > > sincere devotees are confused up to the core. This is a matter of > > concern. > > > > What I really would ask you is to be silent a bit and think it > over > > honestly and sincerely ... > > Are we not using Ramanas name for our little things ... for our > > ideas ... for our egos ... for feeling comfortable in a spiritual > > atmosphere or whatever ...? > > > > So many misuse Ramana nowadays and all say: " Yes, that's true - > but > > it is not me!! " > > > > Gabriele > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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