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An actual story about romance from the Ramana Maharshi

newsletters........Harsha

 

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An inmate of the Ashrama who had been serving Bhagavan Ramana for many

years started visiting a certain woman in the town. Her relatives came

to know of it and decided to catch and kill the man.

 

One night they caught him at her house, bound him hand and foot and

locked him up in a room, postponing the cutting of his throat until

they had found a safe way of disposing of the body.

 

Our man managed to escape and came running to the Ashrama, pursued by

his enemies. When he entered the gate they gave up the chase. He

entered the Hall trembling and fell on the ground shouting: " Save me,

save me. "

 

Bhagavan ordered the doors to be shut and said: " Don't fear, tell me

what happened. " After having been told everything, he looked at the

culprit with understanding and pity and said reassuringly: " Don't fear

any more. Go and sleep. " From the next day the man was at his work and

Bhagavan would not mention the matter at all.

 

Everybody in the town came to know what happened. The Ashrama people

requested Bhagavan to send the man away, for his presence

would tarnish the good name of the Ashrama.

 

Bhagavan called the man and told him in front of everybody: " You have

done some wrong, but you were too foolish to keep it secret. Others do

worse things, but they take care not to be caught. Now, the people who

were not caught want you to leave the Ashrama because you were caught.

They will make your life miserable. You had better stay outside for

some time, until things settle down. "

 

The man stayed with some devotees outside the Ashrama and came back

after a few months.

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Good story.

Appending something like:

" ...taken from " The Bhagavan I Knew " in the Ramana Smriti

Souvenir.

 

" As I saw Him " by Krishna Bhikshu, would have rounded the matter off,

enabling the reader to check out the reference.

, " harshaimtm " wrote:

>

> An actual story about romance from the Ramana Maharshi

> newsletters........Harsha

>

> ***************************************

>

> An inmate of the Ashrama who had been serving Bhagavan Ramana for many

> years started visiting a certain woman in the town. Her relatives came

> to know of it and decided to catch and kill the man.

>

> One night they caught him at her house, bound him hand and foot and

> locked him up in a room, ...

 

 

 

 

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, " MIchael Cape-Meadows "

<ramanatmosphere wrote:

>

> Good story.

> Appending something like:

> " ...taken from " The Bhagavan I Knew " in the Ramana Smriti

> Souvenir.

>

> " As I saw Him " by Krishna Bhikshu, would have rounded the matter off,

> enabling the reader to check out the reference.

> , " harshaimtm " <harsha@> wrote:

> >

> > An actual story about romance from the Ramana Maharshi

> > newsletters........Harsha

 

Thanks for the reference Michael. It is one of my favorite Ramana

stories. It shows how truly nonjudgmental and forgiving Bhagavan was.

His life was his teaching. To Bhagavan, the central teaching focus was

to only, " Find out who you are. "

 

" Awareness is another name for you. Your very nature is that of

Bliss. " He used to say.

 

Sorry, I have no reference for that. It is like talking about my

mother. What reference can one give?

 

Namaste and love to all

Harsha

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, " harshaimtm "

wrote:

>

> An actual story about romance from the Ramana Maharshi

> newsletters........Harsha

>

> ***************************************

>

> An inmate of the Ashrama who had been serving Bhagavan Ramana for

many

> years started visiting a certain woman in the town. Her relatives

came

> to know of it and decided to catch and kill the man.

>

> One night they caught him at her house, bound him hand and foot and

> locked him up in a room, postponing the cutting of his throat until

> they had found a safe way of disposing of the body.

>

> Our man managed to escape and came running to the Ashrama, pursued

by

> his enemies. When he entered the gate they gave up the chase. He

> entered the Hall trembling and fell on the ground shouting: " Save

me,

> save me. "

>

> Bhagavan ordered the doors to be shut and said: " Don't fear, tell me

> what happened. " After having been told everything, he looked at the

> culprit with understanding and pity and said reassuringly: " Don't

fear

> any more. Go and sleep. " From the next day the man was at his work

and

> Bhagavan would not mention the matter at all.

>

> Everybody in the town came to know what happened. The Ashrama people

> requested Bhagavan to send the man away, for his presence

> would tarnish the good name of the Ashrama.

>

> Bhagavan called the man and told him in front of everybody: " You

have

> done some wrong, but you were too foolish to keep it secret. Others

do

> worse things, but they take care not to be caught. Now, the people

who

> were not caught want you to leave the Ashrama because you were

caught.

> They will make your life miserable. You had better stay outside for

> some time, until things settle down. "

>

> The man stayed with some devotees outside the Ashrama and came back

> after a few months.

>

Namaste,

 

An interesting body story. But who is the sinner?...Tony

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Dear Michael Cape-Meadows,

 

 

 

One can give references; but does that make a story true?

 

 

 

Sometimes sources are considered to be authoritative and some are not.

 

 

 

Most of the dearly held world scriptures cannot be verified.

 

 

 

Even stories and anecdotes about a person who lived recently are impossible

for most of us to verify with total certainty.

 

 

 

What we know for certain is that the SELF is our own true nature.

 

 

 

Eternal, without birth or death.

 

 

 

Encompassing the sinner as well as the saint......

 

 

 

Let us all be our own authorities unto our SELF...

 

 

 

_____

 

On Behalf Of MIchael Cape-Meadows

Monday, May 26, 2008 7:23 AM

 

Re: Ramana's response to the affair

of an inmate

 

 

 

Good story.

Appending something like:

" ...taken from " The Bhagavan I Knew " in the Ramana Smriti

Souvenir.

 

" As I saw Him " by Krishna Bhikshu, would have rounded the matter off,

enabling the reader to check out the reference.

@ <%40>

, " harshaimtm " wrote:

>

> An actual story about romance from the Ramana Maharshi

> newsletters........Harsha

>

> ***************************************

>

> An inmate of the Ashrama who had been serving Bhagavan Ramana for many

> years started visiting a certain woman in the town. Her relatives came

> to know of it and decided to catch and kill the man.

>

> One night they caught him at her house, bound him hand and foot and

> locked him up in a room, ...

 

 

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, " harshaimtm "

wrote:

>

> , " MIchael Cape-Meadows "

> <ramanatmosphere@> wrote:

> >

> > Good story.

> > Appending something like:

> > " ...taken from " The Bhagavan I Knew " in the Ramana Smriti

> > Souvenir.

> >

> > " As I saw Him " by Krishna Bhikshu, would have rounded the matter

off,

> > enabling the reader to check out the reference.

> > , " harshaimtm " <harsha@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > An actual story about romance from the Ramana Maharshi

> > > newsletters........Harsha

>

> Thanks for the reference Michael. It is one of my favorite Ramana

> stories. It shows how truly nonjudgmental and forgiving Bhagavan

was.

> His life was his teaching. To Bhagavan, the central teaching focus

was

> to only, " Find out who you are. "

>

> " Awareness is another name for you. Your very nature is that of

> Bliss. " He used to say.

>

> Sorry, I have no reference for that. It is like talking about my

> mother. What reference can one give?

>

> Namaste and love to all

> Harsha

>

 

 

:) right, harshaji. truth requires no

confirmations nor references. it is

validated by one's own direct and

unmediated experience. how do i know

that this is so? because it is!

 

 

reminds me something written long ago...

 

 

jai jai ramana,

who by mere mention of his name,

conveys his grace

forming this company of friends...

jai ramana,

whose mere remembrance

elicits the purest and noblest in us

paving the road

to our very own

one and only

self

which we never

left.

 

 

 

 

@}->,->'--

grateful

yosy

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Re: References

 

If we can give reference - we always should do.

Nowadays it seems me more important than ever.

Also one or the other may like to have a look at the original source

in the Ramana-literature and the context, which is only possible, if

sources are given.

It is a standard matter, which should be beyond any discussion on a

list which wants to be taken serious.

 

Of course at times we just adapt a story or something from memory

and tell it in our own words. That is certainly fine as well.

 

 

G.

 

, " NoName " <aumshanti

wrote:

>

> Dear Michael Cape-Meadows,

>

>

>

> One can give references; but does that make a story true?

>

>

>

> Sometimes sources are considered to be authoritative and some are

not.

>

>

>

> Most of the dearly held world scriptures cannot be verified.

>

>

>

> Even stories and anecdotes about a person who lived recently are

impossible

> for most of us to verify with total certainty.

>

>

>

> What we know for certain is that the SELF is our own true nature.

>

>

>

> Eternal, without birth or death.

>

>

>

> Encompassing the sinner as well as the saint......

>

>

>

> Let us all be our own authorities unto our SELF...

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Indeed, sadhaka60.

Anyone who suggests otherwise is not to be trusted, imho.

Interestingly a friend sent me a mail on this very subject recently.

The quotation is from volume IV:

 

" Kapali: I have written Hrdayakasa for anahata also. My impression is

that the anahata is also called Hrdayakasa in some of the tantric works.

 

Maharshi paused and looked at me meaning, " Are you quite sure? "

 

K: Anyhow I shall note and find out; if necessary I shall quote the text.

 

M: Yes, that will be better.

 

After a minute, the full significance of Maharshi's questioning became

evident to me and then I said, " I think it is better, when there is so

much doubt, to remove akasa and simply call it Hrdayam. "

 

M: Yes, that is right. "

---

best wishes

 

Michael C-M

, " sadhaka60 " <g.ebert wrote:

>

> Re: References

>

> If we can give reference - we always should do.

> Nowadays it seems me more important than ever.

> Also one or the other may like to have a look at the original source

> in the Ramana-literature and the context, which is only possible, if

> sources are given.

> It is a standard matter, which should be beyond any discussion on a

> list which wants to be taken serious.

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