Guest guest Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 An actual story about romance from the Ramana Maharshi newsletters........Harsha *************************************** An inmate of the Ashrama who had been serving Bhagavan Ramana for many years started visiting a certain woman in the town. Her relatives came to know of it and decided to catch and kill the man. One night they caught him at her house, bound him hand and foot and locked him up in a room, postponing the cutting of his throat until they had found a safe way of disposing of the body. Our man managed to escape and came running to the Ashrama, pursued by his enemies. When he entered the gate they gave up the chase. He entered the Hall trembling and fell on the ground shouting: " Save me, save me. " Bhagavan ordered the doors to be shut and said: " Don't fear, tell me what happened. " After having been told everything, he looked at the culprit with understanding and pity and said reassuringly: " Don't fear any more. Go and sleep. " From the next day the man was at his work and Bhagavan would not mention the matter at all. Everybody in the town came to know what happened. The Ashrama people requested Bhagavan to send the man away, for his presence would tarnish the good name of the Ashrama. Bhagavan called the man and told him in front of everybody: " You have done some wrong, but you were too foolish to keep it secret. Others do worse things, but they take care not to be caught. Now, the people who were not caught want you to leave the Ashrama because you were caught. They will make your life miserable. You had better stay outside for some time, until things settle down. " The man stayed with some devotees outside the Ashrama and came back after a few months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 Good story. Appending something like: " ...taken from " The Bhagavan I Knew " in the Ramana Smriti Souvenir. " As I saw Him " by Krishna Bhikshu, would have rounded the matter off, enabling the reader to check out the reference. , " harshaimtm " wrote: > > An actual story about romance from the Ramana Maharshi > newsletters........Harsha > > *************************************** > > An inmate of the Ashrama who had been serving Bhagavan Ramana for many > years started visiting a certain woman in the town. Her relatives came > to know of it and decided to catch and kill the man. > > One night they caught him at her house, bound him hand and foot and > locked him up in a room, ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 , " MIchael Cape-Meadows " <ramanatmosphere wrote: > > Good story. > Appending something like: > " ...taken from " The Bhagavan I Knew " in the Ramana Smriti > Souvenir. > > " As I saw Him " by Krishna Bhikshu, would have rounded the matter off, > enabling the reader to check out the reference. > , " harshaimtm " <harsha@> wrote: > > > > An actual story about romance from the Ramana Maharshi > > newsletters........Harsha Thanks for the reference Michael. It is one of my favorite Ramana stories. It shows how truly nonjudgmental and forgiving Bhagavan was. His life was his teaching. To Bhagavan, the central teaching focus was to only, " Find out who you are. " " Awareness is another name for you. Your very nature is that of Bliss. " He used to say. Sorry, I have no reference for that. It is like talking about my mother. What reference can one give? Namaste and love to all Harsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 , " harshaimtm " wrote: > > An actual story about romance from the Ramana Maharshi > newsletters........Harsha > > *************************************** > > An inmate of the Ashrama who had been serving Bhagavan Ramana for many > years started visiting a certain woman in the town. Her relatives came > to know of it and decided to catch and kill the man. > > One night they caught him at her house, bound him hand and foot and > locked him up in a room, postponing the cutting of his throat until > they had found a safe way of disposing of the body. > > Our man managed to escape and came running to the Ashrama, pursued by > his enemies. When he entered the gate they gave up the chase. He > entered the Hall trembling and fell on the ground shouting: " Save me, > save me. " > > Bhagavan ordered the doors to be shut and said: " Don't fear, tell me > what happened. " After having been told everything, he looked at the > culprit with understanding and pity and said reassuringly: " Don't fear > any more. Go and sleep. " From the next day the man was at his work and > Bhagavan would not mention the matter at all. > > Everybody in the town came to know what happened. The Ashrama people > requested Bhagavan to send the man away, for his presence > would tarnish the good name of the Ashrama. > > Bhagavan called the man and told him in front of everybody: " You have > done some wrong, but you were too foolish to keep it secret. Others do > worse things, but they take care not to be caught. Now, the people who > were not caught want you to leave the Ashrama because you were caught. > They will make your life miserable. You had better stay outside for > some time, until things settle down. " > > The man stayed with some devotees outside the Ashrama and came back > after a few months. > Namaste, An interesting body story. But who is the sinner?...Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 Dear Michael Cape-Meadows, One can give references; but does that make a story true? Sometimes sources are considered to be authoritative and some are not. Most of the dearly held world scriptures cannot be verified. Even stories and anecdotes about a person who lived recently are impossible for most of us to verify with total certainty. What we know for certain is that the SELF is our own true nature. Eternal, without birth or death. Encompassing the sinner as well as the saint...... Let us all be our own authorities unto our SELF... _____ On Behalf Of MIchael Cape-Meadows Monday, May 26, 2008 7:23 AM Re: Ramana's response to the affair of an inmate Good story. Appending something like: " ...taken from " The Bhagavan I Knew " in the Ramana Smriti Souvenir. " As I saw Him " by Krishna Bhikshu, would have rounded the matter off, enabling the reader to check out the reference. @ <%40> , " harshaimtm " wrote: > > An actual story about romance from the Ramana Maharshi > newsletters........Harsha > > *************************************** > > An inmate of the Ashrama who had been serving Bhagavan Ramana for many > years started visiting a certain woman in the town. Her relatives came > to know of it and decided to catch and kill the man. > > One night they caught him at her house, bound him hand and foot and > locked him up in a room, ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 , " harshaimtm " wrote: > > , " MIchael Cape-Meadows " > <ramanatmosphere@> wrote: > > > > Good story. > > Appending something like: > > " ...taken from " The Bhagavan I Knew " in the Ramana Smriti > > Souvenir. > > > > " As I saw Him " by Krishna Bhikshu, would have rounded the matter off, > > enabling the reader to check out the reference. > > , " harshaimtm " <harsha@> wrote: > > > > > > An actual story about romance from the Ramana Maharshi > > > newsletters........Harsha > > Thanks for the reference Michael. It is one of my favorite Ramana > stories. It shows how truly nonjudgmental and forgiving Bhagavan was. > His life was his teaching. To Bhagavan, the central teaching focus was > to only, " Find out who you are. " > > " Awareness is another name for you. Your very nature is that of > Bliss. " He used to say. > > Sorry, I have no reference for that. It is like talking about my > mother. What reference can one give? > > Namaste and love to all > Harsha > right, harshaji. truth requires no confirmations nor references. it is validated by one's own direct and unmediated experience. how do i know that this is so? because it is! reminds me something written long ago... jai jai ramana, who by mere mention of his name, conveys his grace forming this company of friends... jai ramana, whose mere remembrance elicits the purest and noblest in us paving the road to our very own one and only self which we never left. @}->,->'-- grateful yosy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 Re: References If we can give reference - we always should do. Nowadays it seems me more important than ever. Also one or the other may like to have a look at the original source in the Ramana-literature and the context, which is only possible, if sources are given. It is a standard matter, which should be beyond any discussion on a list which wants to be taken serious. Of course at times we just adapt a story or something from memory and tell it in our own words. That is certainly fine as well. G. , " NoName " <aumshanti wrote: > > Dear Michael Cape-Meadows, > > > > One can give references; but does that make a story true? > > > > Sometimes sources are considered to be authoritative and some are not. > > > > Most of the dearly held world scriptures cannot be verified. > > > > Even stories and anecdotes about a person who lived recently are impossible > for most of us to verify with total certainty. > > > > What we know for certain is that the SELF is our own true nature. > > > > Eternal, without birth or death. > > > > Encompassing the sinner as well as the saint...... > > > > Let us all be our own authorities unto our SELF... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 Indeed, sadhaka60. Anyone who suggests otherwise is not to be trusted, imho. Interestingly a friend sent me a mail on this very subject recently. The quotation is from volume IV: " Kapali: I have written Hrdayakasa for anahata also. My impression is that the anahata is also called Hrdayakasa in some of the tantric works. Maharshi paused and looked at me meaning, " Are you quite sure? " K: Anyhow I shall note and find out; if necessary I shall quote the text. M: Yes, that will be better. After a minute, the full significance of Maharshi's questioning became evident to me and then I said, " I think it is better, when there is so much doubt, to remove akasa and simply call it Hrdayam. " M: Yes, that is right. " --- best wishes Michael C-M , " sadhaka60 " <g.ebert wrote: > > Re: References > > If we can give reference - we always should do. > Nowadays it seems me more important than ever. > Also one or the other may like to have a look at the original source > in the Ramana-literature and the context, which is only possible, if > sources are given. > It is a standard matter, which should be beyond any discussion on a > list which wants to be taken serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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