Guest guest Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 , " Harsha " wrote: > > Dear Everyone in the Sangha, > > > > Thank you for your mutual support. > > > > When Sri Ramana indicated a spiritual program for Kunju Swami, he included a > number of things in it including Japa. This is even though Kunju Swami was a > very spiritually mature devotee. Bhagavan felt that a combination of > activities for the mind may be needed to get to the point of full time > self-inquiry. These included prayer, japa, meditation, yoga, etc. > > > > Sri Ramana always advised people to do what is natural and best for them and > what they are inclined to. Within the general framework of the teaching, > each person has to use their common sense to move forward. Many > life/mind/body issues are too complex for simple solutions. > > > > Here is my own example. > > > > I had practiced meditation and yoga since childhood. When I was 18, an > unexpected and an overwhelming uncontrollable event caused an awakening and > literally forced my consciousness into self-awareness. This change in > myself caused such panic and fear. I could not fully grasp what was > happening and I could not stop it or get away from it. For three- four years, > my mental life was filled with persistent anxiety and fears. I lost interest > in most normal things and became very skinny. However, I did not lose my > common sense and intelligence. I forced myself to do things such as exercise > and walking. I forced myself to eat proper foods. For a period I had to take > a break from going to college and just stayed home. But then I forced myself > to go back and continue taking classes and stay with my normal routine. I > did not find my spiritual teacher until three years later. But I hung on, > sometimes by a slim thread. > > > > All of this was a long time ago (over 30 years). Somehow with prayers, with > japa, with grace of God, I survived. Each of us has unique karmas. We have > to do what feels right in our life circumstances. We can consult with > friends, family, health care providers, etc. Ultimately, we are the judge of > what course of action is best for us. > > > > My own experience is that when we are able to overcome very difficult > challenges, we gain self-confidence in our judgment and gratitude for the > opportunity to grow and flower. > > > > Namaste and love to all > > > > Yours in Bhagavan > > Harsha > > > > dear harsha-ji, beloved friend and teacher: thank you for the honest,sincere and fearless sharing your experience with us. and it confirms, too, my observation and experience: no one attains to the lowest rung of true sanity, without having doubted or even lost it, temporarily... no wonder in most traditions the sincere seeker is regarded as a true hero. madness and death are acompanying the seeker on both sides, along the narrow path... and as the illustrous hassidic sage, rabbi nahman from breslav, said: " the whole wide world is a narrow bridge. and the gist is not to fear at all! " thank you. grateful for your company, and this caravan of friends you gathered, _()_ yosy nnb > > > > > On Behalf Of NoName > Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:58 AM > > RE: Re: Dream during the sleep > > > > Dear Palaniappan, > > > > Although Bhagavan offered self inquiry as the most direct means to > realization, it is not for everyone. > > > > One whose mind is out of control is not a good candidate for self inquiry. > > > > One's interests might be bettered served by taking up a regular routine of > bodily exercise, followed by bathing and then either japam (repetition of a > name of God) or meditation with a name of God or mantra synchronized with > the breath. Synchronizing meditation with the breath is very important. > Even when one is not in mediation during the day, the breath continues and > after persistent practice one's mind will be drawn to the breath during the > day rather than the out of control thoughts. > > > > The bodily exercise, preferably hatha yoga, helps to calm the mind by > releasing beneficial hormones and tiring the body a bit. Then the japam or > meditation synchronized with the breath gives the consciousness something to > cling to instead of being kidnapped by the wildly wandering thoughts. > > > > With persistence, grace and surrender, one will become ready for self > inquiry in due time. > > > > Love to all, > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Palaniappan C > Tuesday, June 17, 2008 7:40 AM > > Re: Re: Dream during the sleep > > > > > Thanks a lot for all of your support and help in this regard. Yes as you > have told, I have been carrying too many thoughts and worries. I really dont > know how to come out of it. So many thoughts flowing into my mind. Every > moment something or other I would be thinking, mostly what will happen next > or what should I plan for or what should I next. I have never seen myself, > just being not thinking and being there just like that. If I sit for prayer, > within 30 seconds, my mind would go out for something, every time I have to > forcefully pull it. If I read even Bhagavan's book, I wouldnt have crossed 1 > page, but within that period of time, so many imagination and thoughts would > have passed my mind. Sometimes I would really my self very heavy and > stressed because of that. And now being alone here in China, it makes things > more worse. > > --- On Tue, 6/17/08, adithya_comming <adithya_comming wrote: > > adithya_comming <adithya_comming > Re: Dream during the sleep > > Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 7:46 PM > > [...] > > > > > >> Going back to college hostel to take up > > >> semester exam again after 5 > > years of coming out of college. > > > > It usually means that you are very worried about > something [such as a project] and you are afraid > that you might not be well-prepared. > > This kind of dream happens to many people when > they think they aren't ready for something. > > ac > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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