Guest guest Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 , Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs wrote: > > Dear Michael, >  > Thanks for your input, so well expressed. >  > The faith of the ego is the ordinary person's or our own idea of what faith is, and we do the best we can to affirm our faith, such as it is. But the mind, or ego wavers, that is it fluctuates from one thing to another, so it has to be made firm and strengthened into Real Great Faith , when we trust with Certainty and will it as truth.. I hope that is clear. >  > Love, >  > Alan > faith and knowledge real faith is what remains when all beliefs are lost. substitutes for knowing, like a scaffolding which is dismounted once the job is done; so are beliefs abandoned when experience dawns. but in the presence of the real no faith nor faithful remain. true knowing and being is ever one. @}->'->,-- yosy > --- On Thu, 11/9/08, Michael Bindel <michael.bindel wrote: > > Michael Bindel <michael.bindel > Re: Bhagavad Gita 17 > > Thursday, 11 September, 2008, 10:22 AM  > Dear Ones >  > in my life experience FAITH is the driving force behind the search for real meaning in our existence. > But generelly faith is used to " wish " something for ones dominant ego. > Of course faith in the sparkling light of GD is the main lesson to be learned on the way. > And faith that everything we encounter, all illnesses, accidents, tragic events like death of someone dear to us, is a lesson to be accepted wholeheartedly - even with some complaining - in the INNER knowledge that in the end all is " good " for this being. > The last sentence i do not really understand: > The Egos faith wavers and has to be firmed up... >  > to firm up: what does it mean? >  > Thank you for this wonderful work, Dear Alan.... >  >  > in His Grace >  >  > michael >  >  >  >  > > - > Alan Jacobs > > Thursday, September 11, 2008 3:23 AM > Bhagavad Gita 17 > > > > V. 17 GITA STUDY > > " The faith of everyone is according to his nature O Bharata (another name for Arjuna meaning 'spirit of Ancient India'). Man is essentially endowed with faith. What is faith is, that indeed is he. " XI:54 > > Bhagavan has chosen this verse to emphasise the need for GREAT FAITH on the path. Essentially that means GREAT FAITH in one's SELF, God, the Sat Guru (Ramana) and his Teaching. In our essence- the Self- faith is there. But what our faith is now, is what we actualy are in the eyes of the Self and God. The Ego's faith wavers and has to be firmed up.. > > Comment and questions invited on this interesting verse. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.19/1664 - Release Date: 10/09/2008 6.00 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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