Bhagavad Gita Study 26

September 20, 2008

The Song Celestial by Ramana Maharshi a study of the Bhagavad Gita. Ramana chose

the 42 most important verses in an order for spiritual guidance from the 700.

26 . " BRAHMA NIRVANA lies around those who have freed themselves from anger and

desire, who have subdued their minds and have known the Self. " V:26

Comment:

A description of the Self Realised state.

According to the Collected Works Glossary Brahma means Lord of Creation; God as

the Creator: and Nirvana is not mentioned. Another glossary defines Nirvana as

'extinction, not necessarily of all being, but of being as we know it;

dissolution; disintergration; extinction of ego, desire and egoistic action and

mentality; nirvana- paraman; self extinction supreme. (Aurobindo Glossary) Here

one questions why the Ashram translation done by Arthur Osborne and

Prof.Kolkarni does not use the term Brahman Nirvana as Brahman is the Supreme

Absolute and more in concordance with Advaita than Brahma the Creator God? Do

members have any views on that?

My own 'popular' free poetic versification of the Gita (New Age Books, Delhi

2005, and O Books 2003) renders this verse as:

Perfect Peace is

Palpable

And like deep silence

Can be felt by those

Freed from the dread tyrany

Of anger and desire.

Who have subdued

Their arrogant, wandering,

Perverted minds,

And have touched the Self

Of Absolute Consciousness

The Godhead hiding in the heart.

Comments are welcomed.

September 20, 2008

, Alan Jacobs

<alanadamsjacobs wrote:

>

> The Song Celestial by Ramana Maharshi a study of the Bhagavad Gita.

Ramana chose the 42 most important verses in an order for spiritual

guidance from the 700.

>

> 26 . " BRAHMA NIRVANA lies around those who have freed themselves

from anger and desire, who have subdued their minds and have known

the Self. " V:26

>

> Comment:

>

> A description of the Self Realised state.

>

> According to the Collected Works Glossary Brahma means Lord of

Creation; God as the Creator: and Nirvana is not mentioned. Another

glossary defines Nirvana as 'extinction, not necessarily of all

being, but of being as we know it; dissolution; disintergration;

extinction of ego, desire and egoistic action and mentality; nirvana-

paraman; self extinction supreme. (Aurobindo Glossary) Here one

questions why the Ashram translation done by Arthur Osborne and

Prof.Kolkarni does not use the term Brahman Nirvana as Brahman is the

Supreme Absolute and more in concordance with Advaita than Brahma the

Creator God? Do members have any views on that?

>

> My own 'popular' free poetic versification of the Gita (New Age

Books, Delhi 2005, and O Books 2003) renders this verse as:

>

> Perfect Peace is

> Palpable

> And like deep silence

> Can be felt by those

> Freed from the dread tyrany

> Of anger and desire.

> Who have subdued

> Their arrogant, wandering,

> Perverted minds,

> And have touched the Self

> Of Absolute Consciousness

> The Godhead hiding in the heart.

>

> Comments are welcomed.

>

dear alan, verse 26 - what chapter?

thirty years ago, when i fell in love

with the gita, i familiarised myself with

no less then a dozen different english

translations, and found out that some parts

vary greatly. frankly, the versions quoted

by you do not 'feel' fully harmonious...

thank you in advance

yosy

ps. shabbat shalom and ramadan kareem all

September 20, 2008

Dear Yosyx,

I quite appreciate your comment, and am inclined to agree that the Aurobindo translation is not the most harmonious. My library is currently very limited at the moment, and the only other translation I have is that of Sir Edwin Arnold 's which is pure poetry, but does not number the verses. as he enjams them. My rendition was composed five years ago, and was meant for a popular or general readership omitting Sanskrit words where possible. I may have moved on a little since then and would not necessarily render it in the same way now. Others may offer us a more harmonious translation perhaps. The chapter is no. 5.

All love and best wishes,

Alan

here is another translation from --- On Sat, 20/9/08, yosyx <yosyflug wrote:

yosyx <yosyflug Re: Bhagavad Gita Study 26 Date: Saturday, 20 September, 2008, 4:56 AM

, Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs@ ...> wrote:>> The Song Celestial by Ramana Maharshi a study of the Bhagavad Gita. Ramana chose the 42 most important verses in an order for spiritual guidance from the 700.> > 26 . "BRAHMA NIRVANA lies around those who have freed themselves from anger and desire, who have subdued their minds and have known the Self." V:26> > Comment:> > A description of the Self Realised state.> > According to the Collected Works Glossary Brahma means Lord of Creation; God as the Creator: and Nirvana is not mentioned. Another glossary defines Nirvana as 'extinction, not necessarily of all being, but of being as we know it; dissolution; disintergration; extinction of ego, desire and egoistic action and

mentality; nirvana- paraman; self extinction supreme. (Aurobindo Glossary) Here one questions why the Ashram translation done by Arthur Osborne and Prof.Kolkarni does not use the term Brahman Nirvana as Brahman is the Supreme Absolute and more in concordance with Advaita than Brahma the Creator God? Do members have any views on that?> > My own 'popular' free poetic versification of the Gita (New Age Books, Delhi 2005, and O Books 2003) renders this verse as:> > Perfect Peace is> Palpable> And like deep silence> Can be felt by those> Freed from the dread tyrany> Of anger and desire.> Who have subdued> Their arrogant, wandering,> Perverted minds,> And have touched the Self> Of Absolute Consciousness> The Godhead hiding in the heart.> > > Comments are welcomed.> dear alan, verse 26 - what

chapter? thirty years ago, when i fell in love with the gita, i familiarised myself with no less then a dozen different english translations, and found out that some parts vary greatly. frankly, the versions quoted by you do not 'feel' fully harmonious.. .thank you in advance yosy ps. shabbat shalom and ramadan kareem all