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Ji's,

 

my little contribution on this issue. Consider this....

 

-d

 

---- On Wed, 9/24/08, Sundararajan <sundar22ca wrote:

Sundararajan <sundar22ca Re: Nothing Ever Happened ! Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 11:02 PM

 

 

Dear Mouna-ji,Q. Until someone comes up with a fast track method to stop themis-identification, or the hijacked identification, I guess, I have toreluctantly accept your view that there is fast food, but no fast method.sundar.

 

A. Simple Awareness is always present in each moment. It is the Light of Awareness that manifests as all we experience. Pretty simple. The unchanging ground of our being as consciousness, is this unconditioned Awareness. We are not our body, not our mind and thoughts, not our feelings, not our sensory perceptions, not our self-image nor ego. But the Awareness of all of those aspects is the unchanging Source point, a place where we have never left. We are not a witness to it all, that would be too personal and individual, like some entity of consciousness. But rather we are a stark naked witnessing, generic and impersonal, an aware voidness, infinitely perfect and the Source point of all that is. In this witnessing quality we are all the same, as no differences or characteristics exist. How do we recover this

sense of who we are?

 

Whatever we experience, notice the experience and rest in the pure unevaluated noticing; If thoughts arise, notice the thoughts. If feelings arise just notice the feelings. If you engage the mind in thinking, notice the engaged mind absorbed in thought. By just taking one step back into the noticing and observingness with the arising of each expereintial arising in body, mind or sensory perception, eventually your consciousness will become more centered in this naked here-and-now Presence. Whatever concept or doubt arises just observe that thought and stay with the observing and the thought or doubt will dissolve from where it arose. When the thought of I or me arises and there is a strong sense of individual selfhood, just observe that sense of selfhood. It too will dissolve from where it arose. In such a moment of insight, that the self is just an arising in consciousness, the awareness arises that

not only are you not an individual self, but neither is anyone else. The Awareness from which this sense of self arises and dissolves, from moment to moment, is the Natural State as our true and unchanging nature. Always take one step back into the awareness of the experience, instead of centering in the sense of self as subject during the experience. Continually Abiding in Awareness (and its ok if attention get distracted and forgets but remembers afterward) will stabilize as the mental arisings become more brief and less profound. Eventually the mind no longer appears as thinkingness but rather as the clarity, luminosity and bliss of Awareness itself. Rest in this... it your Natural 'Sahaj' State.

 

Really no practices are necessary but but the ego needs it to be more complex. In that way it can ensure its continued illusory existence.

 

Awareness as Path is not only attributed to Advaita but als to Dzogchen, Zen and Mahamudra. In Awareness, the gate is wide open... in this exact moment. When we hesitate to ponder and consider our way, the gate is already closed.

 

 

 

 

 

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Dave Sirjue <davesirjue wrote:

>

> Ji's,  

> my little contribution on this issue. Consider this....

 

> Whatever we experience, notice the experience...

> If thoughts arise, notice the thoughts. 

> If feelings arise just notice the feelings. 

> If you engage the mind in thinking, notice...

> By just taking one step back into the noticing and observingness

with the arising of each expereintial arising in body, mind or sensory

perception, eventually your consciousness will become more centered in

this naked here-and-now Presence. 

> Whatever concept or doubt arises just observe...

> When the thought of I or me arises and there is a strong sense of

individual selfhood, just observe that sense of selfhood...

> Always take one step back into the awareness of the experience

continually Abiding  in Awareness (and its ok if attention get

distracted and forgets but remembers afterward) will stabilize as the

mental arisings become more brief and less profound.  Eventually the

mind no longer appears as thinkingness but rather as the clarity,

luminosity and bliss of Awareness itself. 

> Rest in this... it your Natural 'Sahaj' State.

 

Dear brother Dave-Ji, greetings!

 

All you just have pointed out sound pretty much like a " practice " to

me... " notice, engage, observe, remember, abide until stabilizing,

rest " ...

 

But then you say:

 

> Really no practices are necessary but the ego needs it to be more

complex (!!!)

 

I told you once, we were saying the same thing from two different

bodies with different words, or let's say, Awareness is expressing

itself the same way through different computers and conditionings.

 

 

Yours in Bhagavan,

Mouna

 

(Maybe this posting wasn't intended to Mouna anyway...)

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Simply beautiful.....

 

and it is felt here that you write from experience,

 

rather than intellectual knowledge...

 

The words point easily and directly to That which we are...

 

Namaste,

Soul

 

, Dave Sirjue <davesirjue

wrote:

>

> Ji's,

>  

> my little contribution on this issue. Consider this....

>  

> -d

>  

> ---- On Wed, 9/24/08, Sundararajan <sundar22ca wrote:

>

> Sundararajan <sundar22ca

> Re: Nothing Ever Happened !

>

> Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 11:02 PM

Dear Mouna-ji,

> Q. Until someone comes up with a fast track method to stop the

> mis-identification, or the hijacked identification, I guess, I have

to

> reluctantly accept your view that there is fast food, but no fast

method.

> sundar.

>  

> A. Simple Awareness is always present in each moment.  It is

the Light of Awareness that manifests as all we experience.  Pretty

simple.  The unchanging ground of our being as consciousness, is this

unconditioned Awareness.  We are not our body, not our mind and

thoughts, not our feelings, not our sensory perceptions, not our self-

image nor ego.  But the Awareness of all of those aspects is the

unchanging Source point, a place where we have never left.  We are

not a witness to it all, that would be too personal and individual,

like some entity of consciousness.  But rather we are a stark

naked witnessing, generic and impersonal, an aware

voidness, infinitely perfect and the Source point of all that is.  In

this witnessing quality we are all the same, as no differences or

characteristics exist.  How do we recover this sense of who we are?

>  

> Whatever we experience, notice the experience and rest in the pure

unevaluated noticing; If thoughts arise, notice the thoughts.  If

feelings arise just notice the feelings.  If you engage the mind in

thinking, notice the engaged mind absorbed in thought.  By just

taking one step back into the noticing and observingness with the

arising of each expereintial arising in body, mind or sensory

perception, eventually your consciousness will become more centered

in this naked here-and-now Presence.  Whatever concept or doubt

arises just observe that thought and stay with the observing and the

thought or doubt will dissolve from where it arose.  When the thought

of I or me arises and there is a strong sense of individual selfhood,

just observe that sense of selfhood.  It too will dissolve from where

it arose.  In such a moment of insight, that the self is just an

arising in consciousness, the awareness arises that not only are you

not an individual

> self, but neither is anyone else.  The Awareness from which this

sense of self arises and dissolves, from moment to moment, is the

Natural State as our true and unchanging nature.  Always take one

step back into the awareness of the experience, instead of centering

in the sense of self as subject during the experience.  Continually

Abiding  in Awareness (and its ok if attention get distracted and

forgets but remembers afterward) will stabilize as the mental

arisings become more brief and less profound.  Eventually the mind no

longer appears as thinkingness but rather as the clarity, luminosity

and bliss of Awareness itself.  Rest in this... it your

Natural 'Sahaj' State.

>  

> Really no practices are necessary but  but the ego  needs it to be

more complex.  In that way it can ensure its continued illusory

existence.

>  

> Awareness as Path is not only attributed to Advaita but als

to  Dzogchen, Zen and Mahamudra.  In Awareness, the gate is wide

open... in this exact moment.  When we hesitate to ponder

and consider our way, the gate is already closed.

>  

>

>

>  

>

>

>

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> World of Star Wars

> Rediscover the force.

> Explore now.

>

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Namaste' Friends,

 

Yes.

 

Just as Ramana Maharshi said... in 'Who Am I?'

 

2. If I am none of these, then who am I ?

 

After negating all of the above mentioned as 'not this', 'not this'

that Awareness which alone remains- that I am.

 

~~~

What is rarely understood is that Awareness plays both roles...

Awareness is the seeing (Spacious Awareness) and Awareness is the

doing as the action that arises with the seeing (Active Awareness)...

in other words there is no doer, no you, there is only Awareness...

it is what is present when you are absent, in this way you are your

absence.

 

Blessed Be,

James

 

 

 

 

 

, " Soul " <soulyoginima

wrote:

>

>

> Simply beautiful.....

>

> and it is felt here that you write from experience,

>

> rather than intellectual knowledge...

>

> The words point easily and directly to That which we are...

>

> Namaste,

> Soul

>

> , Dave Sirjue <davesirjue@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Ji's,

> >  

> > my little contribution on this issue. Consider this....

> >  

> > -d

> >  

> > ---- On Wed, 9/24/08, Sundararajan <sundar22ca@> wrote:

> >

> > Sundararajan <sundar22ca@>

> > Re: Nothing Ever

Happened !

> >

> > Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 11:02 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Mouna-ji,

> > Q. Until someone comes up with a fast track method to stop the

> > mis-identification, or the hijacked identification, I guess, I

have

> to

> > reluctantly accept your view that there is fast food, but no fast

> method.

> > sundar.

> >  

> > A. Simple Awareness is always present in each moment.  It is

> the Light of Awareness that manifests as all we experience.  Pretty

> simple.  The unchanging ground of our being as consciousness, is

this

> unconditioned Awareness.  We are not our body, not our mind and

> thoughts, not our feelings, not our sensory perceptions, not our

self-

> image nor ego.  But the Awareness of all of those aspects is the

> unchanging Source point, a place where we have never left.  We are

> not a witness to it all, that would be too personal and individual,

> like some entity of consciousness.  But rather we are a stark

> naked witnessing, generic and impersonal, an aware

> voidness, infinitely perfect and the Source point of all that is. 

In

> this witnessing quality we are all the same, as no differences or

> characteristics exist.  How do we recover this sense of who we are?

> >  

> > Whatever we experience, notice the experience and rest in the

pure

> unevaluated noticing; If thoughts arise, notice the thoughts.  If

> feelings arise just notice the feelings.  If you engage the mind in

> thinking, notice the engaged mind absorbed in thought.  By just

> taking one step back into the noticing and observingness with the

> arising of each expereintial arising in body, mind or sensory

> perception, eventually your consciousness will become more centered

> in this naked here-and-now Presence.  Whatever concept or doubt

> arises just observe that thought and stay with the observing and

the

> thought or doubt will dissolve from where it arose.  When the

thought

> of I or me arises and there is a strong sense of individual

selfhood,

> just observe that sense of selfhood.  It too will dissolve from

where

> it arose.  In such a moment of insight, that the self is just an

> arising in consciousness, the awareness arises that not only are

you

> not an individual

> > self, but neither is anyone else.  The Awareness from which this

> sense of self arises and dissolves, from moment to moment, is the

> Natural State as our true and unchanging nature.  Always take one

> step back into the awareness of the experience, instead of

centering

> in the sense of self as subject during the experience.  Continually

> Abiding  in Awareness (and its ok if attention get distracted and

> forgets but remembers afterward) will stabilize as the mental

> arisings become more brief and less profound.  Eventually the mind

no

> longer appears as thinkingness but rather as the clarity,

luminosity

> and bliss of Awareness itself.  Rest in this... it your

> Natural 'Sahaj' State.

> >  

> > Really no practices are necessary but  but the ego  needs it to

be

> more complex.  In that way it can ensure its continued illusory

> existence.

> >  

> > Awareness as Path is not only attributed to Advaita but als

> to  Dzogchen, Zen and Mahamudra.  In Awareness, the gate is wide

> open... in this exact moment.  When we hesitate to ponder

> and consider our way, the gate is already closed.

> >  

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

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Yes!

 

There is no " doer " ... " you are your absence " ...

Such lovely, sweet pointing to who we are, from experiencing ...

 

Lovely...

 

Now gratefulness arising for this beautiful sharing...

 

Thank you...

 

Soul

 

 

, " James Traverse "

<nisarga111 wrote:

>

> Namaste' Friends,

>

> Yes.

>

> Just as Ramana Maharshi said... in 'Who Am I?'

>

> 2. If I am none of these, then who am I ?

>

> After negating all of the above mentioned as 'not this', 'not this'

> that Awareness which alone remains- that I am.

>

> ~~~

> What is rarely understood is that Awareness plays both roles...

> Awareness is the seeing (Spacious Awareness) and Awareness is the

> doing as the action that arises with the seeing (Active

Awareness)...

> in other words there is no doer, no you, there is only Awareness...

> it is what is present when you are absent, in this way you are your

> absence.

>

> Blessed Be,

> James

>

>

>

>

>

> , " Soul " <soulyoginima@>

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Simply beautiful.....

> >

> > and it is felt here that you write from experience,

> >

> > rather than intellectual knowledge...

> >

> > The words point easily and directly to That which we are...

> >

> > Namaste,

> > Soul

> >

> > , Dave Sirjue <davesirjue@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Ji's,

> > >  

> > > my little contribution on this issue. Consider this....

> > >  

> > > -d

> > >  

> > > ---- On Wed, 9/24/08, Sundararajan <sundar22ca@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Sundararajan <sundar22ca@>

> > > Re: Nothing Ever

> Happened !

> > >

> > > Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 11:02 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Mouna-ji,

> > > Q. Until someone comes up with a fast track method to stop the

> > > mis-identification, or the hijacked identification, I guess, I

> have

> > to

> > > reluctantly accept your view that there is fast food, but no

fast

> > method.

> > > sundar.

> > >  

> > > A. Simple Awareness is always present in each moment.  It is

> > the Light of Awareness that manifests as all we experience. 

Pretty

> > simple.  The unchanging ground of our being as consciousness, is

> this

> > unconditioned Awareness.  We are not our body, not our mind and

> > thoughts, not our feelings, not our sensory perceptions, not our

> self-

> > image nor ego.  But the Awareness of all of those aspects is the

> > unchanging Source point, a place where we have never left.  We

are

> > not a witness to it all, that would be too personal and

individual,

> > like some entity of consciousness.  But rather we are a stark

> > naked witnessing, generic and impersonal, an aware

> > voidness, infinitely perfect and the Source point of all that

is. 

> In

> > this witnessing quality we are all the same, as no differences or

> > characteristics exist.  How do we recover this sense of who we

are?

> > >  

> > > Whatever we experience, notice the experience and rest in the

> pure

> > unevaluated noticing; If thoughts arise, notice the thoughts.  If

> > feelings arise just notice the feelings.  If you engage the mind

in

> > thinking, notice the engaged mind absorbed in thought.  By just

> > taking one step back into the noticing and observingness with the

> > arising of each expereintial arising in body, mind or sensory

> > perception, eventually your consciousness will become more

centered

> > in this naked here-and-now Presence.  Whatever concept or doubt

> > arises just observe that thought and stay with the observing and

> the

> > thought or doubt will dissolve from where it arose.  When the

> thought

> > of I or me arises and there is a strong sense of individual

> selfhood,

> > just observe that sense of selfhood.  It too will dissolve from

> where

> > it arose.  In such a moment of insight, that the self is just an

> > arising in consciousness, the awareness arises that not only are

> you

> > not an individual

> > > self, but neither is anyone else.  The Awareness from which

this

> > sense of self arises and dissolves, from moment to moment, is the

> > Natural State as our true and unchanging nature.  Always take one

> > step back into the awareness of the experience, instead of

> centering

> > in the sense of self as subject during the

experience.  Continually

> > Abiding  in Awareness (and its ok if attention get distracted and

> > forgets but remembers afterward) will stabilize as the mental

> > arisings become more brief and less profound.  Eventually the

mind

> no

> > longer appears as thinkingness but rather as the clarity,

> luminosity

> > and bliss of Awareness itself.  Rest in this... it your

> > Natural 'Sahaj' State.

> > >  

> > > Really no practices are necessary but  but the ego  needs it to

> be

> > more complex.  In that way it can ensure its continued illusory

> > existence.

> > >  

> > > Awareness as Path is not only attributed to Advaita but als

> > to  Dzogchen, Zen and Mahamudra.  In Awareness, the gate is wide

> > open... in this exact moment.  When we hesitate to ponder

> > and consider our way, the gate is already closed.

> > >  

> > >

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Recent Activity

> > >

> > >

> > >  6

> > > New MembersVisit Your Group

> > >

> > >

> > > Y! Entertainment

> > > World of Star Wars

> > > Rediscover the force.

> > > Explore now.

> > >

> > > Weight Loss Group

> > > on

> > > Get support and

> > > make friends online.

> > >

> > > John McEnroe

> > > on

> > > Join him for the

> > > 10 Day Challenge.

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