Guest guest Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 Namaste, I was watching an interview with Lee Kwan Yew the other day. He is the architect of modern Singapore. He is now 85 and still got all his marbles. He was supportive of China and its re-emergence but his last remark was startling to say the least. When asked what did he think China will do about pollution etc etc. He said they will do nothing until the glaciers in the Himalayas are dried up and the rivers only run part of the year-----then they will do something. Of course this will be far too late for the planet and make our attempts at 'green' decisions and action rather redundant. However China wasn't always a culture that owes more to Genghis Khan his family and the mongol horde. Thousands of years ago India taught them sanskrit, agriculture, technology, philosophy etc etc. Even though only a small minority of modern day Chinese are in anyway spiritually inclined, instead of just want to be rich; There is hope. http://www.geocities.com/aoclery/TaoBrahmanVege..htm Cheers http://www.geocities.com/aoclery/TaoBrahmanVege..htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 Dear Tony, Your posting has raised the thought that someone should look at Climate Change from a more Advaitic point of view, and I offer a few preliminary tentative thoughts , which you and others may wish to add views and comments on, of your own. 1. There have always been changes in the planetry climate as far as geological records show. This warming is nothing new, we do not know whether it is short or long in duration. There is probably a Higher Purpose in what is happening of which we are unaware, beyond the 'human mind'. 2. The climate is largely controlled by powerful Solar activity. The planets are children of the Sun in the most physical sense, and the Sun probably has wisdom which is may well be very much greater than that of mankind. 3. The Cosmos ls looked after by the Supreme Power, call it by any Name you choose- Isvara, God Almighty, Brahman, etc. In the ultimate sense everything happens for the best, although we may not comprehend it with our limited powers of reason. 4. The great benefit of the Climate Change Movement is that it will relieve the planet of some pollution. Everything is controlled by the Higher Power and it is arrogant for man to think it is in his hands. We are being manipulated by the Higher Power to reduce pollution. rather than being the authors of such a movement. I would be interested to hear your and others' views so we may clarify a more Advaitic, rather than an Anthromorphic approach to this whole question. Bhagavan said on one occaision some words to the effect that He who created the world will look after it. Of course I am treating this topic as if it the world is relatively Real rather than the metaphysical standpoint of its Unreality. Of course we know that for the Jnani the world is Real, and Brahman is its substatum All best wishes and regards, Alan --- On Sun, 28/9/08, Tony OClery <aoclery wrote: Tony OClery <aoclery Just to change the subject-China Date: Sunday, 28 September, 2008, 12:23 AM Namaste,I was watching an interview with Lee Kwan Yew the other day. He is the architect of modern Singapore. He is now 85 and still got all his marbles. He was supportive of China and its re-emergence but his last remark was startling to say the least. When asked what did he think China will do about pollution etc etc. He said they will do nothing until the glaciers in the Himalayas are dried up and the rivers only run part of the year-----then they will do something. Of course this will be far too late for the planet and make our attempts at 'green' decisions and action rather redundant.However China wasn't always a culture that owes more to Genghis Khan his family and the mongol horde. Thousands of years ago India taught them sanskrit, agriculture, technology, philosophy etc etc. Even though only a small minority of modern day Chinese are in anyway spiritually inclined, instead of just want to be rich; There is hope.http://www.geocitie s.com/aoclery/ TaoBrahmanVege. .htmCheers Tonyhttp://www.geocitie s.com/aoclery/ TaoBrahmanVege. .htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 , Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs wrote: > > Dear Tony, >  > Your posting has raised the thought that someone should look at Climate Change from a more Advaitic point of view, and I offer a few preliminary tentative  thoughts , which you and others may wish to add views and comments on, of your own. >  > 1. There have always been changes in the planetry climate as far as geological records show. This warming is nothing new, we do not know whether it is short or long in duration. There is probably a Higher Purpose in what is happening of which we are unaware, beyond the 'human mind'. >  > 2. The climate is largely controlled by powerful Solar activity. The planets are children of the Sun in the most physical sense, and the Sun probably has  wisdom which is may well be very much greater than that of mankind. >  > 3. The Cosmos ls looked after by the Supreme Power, call it by any Name you choose- Isvara, God Almighty, Brahman, etc. In the ultimate sense everything happens for the best, although we may not comprehend it with our limited powers of reason. >  > 4. The great benefit of the Climate Change Movement is that it will relieve the planet of some pollution. Everything is controlled by the Higher Power and it is arrogant for man to think it is in his hands. We are being manipulated by the Higher Power to reduce pollution. rather than being the authors of such a movement. >  > I would be interested to hear your and others' views so we may clarify a more Advaitic, rather than an Anthromorphic approach to this whole question. >  > Bhagavan said on one occaision some words to the effect that He who created the world will look after it. Of course I am treating this topic as if it the world is relatively Real rather than the metaphysical standpoint of its Unreality. Of course we know that for the Jnani the world is Real, and Brahman is its substatum >  > All best wishes and regards, >  > Alan >  > > Cheers > > http://www.geocitie s.com/aoclery/ TaoBrahmanVege. .htm > Namaste, The above is true at one level, but still duality. I feel Ramana was being a little 'dry' when he said 'He' created the world can look after it. In other words the creator is as real as you or I. And if you want to believe something created the world you are welcome to do so, but it isn't the ultimate truth which likely to be ajativada...Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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