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VASANAS - CONTINUED

 

From Padamalai- a superb book containing the advanced teaching of Sri Bhagavan

for mature Sadhaks by Muruganar. Muruganar was a great Tamil Poet. He became

Self realised through Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi. He usually sat near Bhagavan

when Ramana gave Darshan to Ashram Devotees and answered their questions. He

noted down all Bhagavan's utterances and then wrote them in poetic aphoristic

form in a major work called Padamalai, which means 'A Garland For Padam'. Padam

lierally means 'the foot' and is intentended to mean 'the feet of the Guru' or

Bhagavan himself. This book which many regard as to be of scriptural status was

edited by David Godman and translated by the Tamil scholars Robert Butler and

Dr.T.V.Venkatasubra manian. Up to now it cannot be downloaded from the web, but

can be ordered from Ramanasramam Book Depot or it is available from Amazon USA

and UK.

 

This reading is from the Chapter entitled Advice on Sadhana, under the sub

heading Vasanas. P.246-7

 

Vasanas

 

Vasanas are mental tendencies; the latent desires and feelings that compel one

to behave in a particular way. (Padamalai Glossary)

 

At a more fundamental level vasanas are the cause of both manifestation and

rebirth. According to Bhagavan, it is the vasanas that impel the mind to project

and witness an illusory world. At the time of death, the uneradicated vasanas

withdraw into the heart where they remain latent for a while before bringing

into existence a new body and a new world.

 

THE DESTRUCTION OF ALL VASANAS IS EQUATED WITH SELF-REALISATION SINCE, IN THAT

STATE, THERE IS NO REBIRTH AND NO ILLUSORY, PROJECTED WORLD.

 

PADAMALAI p.35. NOTE BY DAVID GODMAN.

 

FROM PADAMALAI P.247

 

 

85

 

Unless the destruction of [all] vasanas is accomplished, it will not be possible

even for Iswara to bestow the state of liberation.

 

86

 

The felicitous state of immovable peace that never falters will be attainable

only to those who have destroyed the ancient multitude of vasanas, putting an

end to all attachment.

 

Question: Since realisation is not possible without vasanakshaya [destruction of

vasanas], how am I to realise that state in which the vasanas are effectively

destroyed?

 

Bhagavan: You are in that state now!

 

Question: Does it mean that by holding on to the Self, the vasanas should be

destroyed as and when they emerge/

 

Bhagavan: They will themselves be destroyed if you remain as you are.

 

Maharshi's Gospel P.28

 

To be continued

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Hello Friend Allan

The eradication of man tendencies happens when man loses AMBITION.

I rembember the Zen Master Ryokan saying in a poem:

 

" Too lazy to be ambitious, I let the world take care of itself. Ten

days' worth of rice in my bag a bundle of twigs by the fireplace.

Why chatter about delusion and enlightenment? Listening to the night

rain on my roof, I sit comfortably, with both legs stretched out. "

 

mourad

 

 

 

, Alan Jacobs

<alanadamsjacobs wrote:

>

>

> VASANAS - CONTINUED

>

> From Padamalai- a superb book containing the advanced teaching of

Sri Bhagavan for mature Sadhaks by Muruganar. Muruganar was a great

Tamil Poet. He became Self realised through Bhagavan Ramana

Maharshi. He usually sat near Bhagavan when Ramana gave Darshan to

Ashram Devotees and answered their questions. He noted down all

Bhagavan's utterances and then wrote them in poetic aphoristic form

in a major work called Padamalai, which means 'A Garland For Padam'.

Padam lierally means 'the foot' and is intentended to mean 'the feet

of the Guru' or Bhagavan himself. This book which many regard as to

be of scriptural status was edited by David Godman and translated by

the Tamil scholars Robert Butler and Dr.T.V.Venkatasubra manian. Up

to now it cannot be downloaded from the web, but can be ordered from

Ramanasramam Book Depot or it is available from Amazon USA and UK.

>

> This reading is from the Chapter entitled Advice on Sadhana, under

the sub heading Vasanas. P.246-7

>

> Vasanas

>

> Vasanas are mental tendencies; the latent desires and feelings

that compel one to behave in a particular way. (Padamalai Glossary)

>

> At a more fundamental level vasanas are the cause of both

manifestation and rebirth. According to Bhagavan, it is the vasanas

that impel the mind to project and witness an illusory world. At the

time of death, the uneradicated vasanas withdraw into the heart

where they remain latent for a while before bringing into existence

a new body and a new world.

>

> THE DESTRUCTION OF ALL VASANAS IS EQUATED WITH SELF-REALISATION

SINCE, IN THAT STATE, THERE IS NO REBIRTH AND NO ILLUSORY, PROJECTED

WORLD.

>

> PADAMALAI p.35. NOTE BY DAVID GODMAN.

>

> FROM PADAMALAI P.247

>

>

> 85

>

> Unless the destruction of [all] vasanas is accomplished, it will

not be possible even for Iswara to bestow the state of liberation.

>

> 86

>

> The felicitous state of immovable peace that never falters will be

attainable only to those who have destroyed the ancient multitude of

vasanas, putting an end to all attachment.

>

> Question: Since realisation is not possible without vasanakshaya

[destruction of vasanas], how am I to realise that state in which

the vasanas are effectively destroyed?

>

> Bhagavan: You are in that state now!

>

> Question: Does it mean that by holding on to the Self, the vasanas

should be destroyed as and when they emerge/

>

> Bhagavan: They will themselves be destroyed if you remain as you

are.

>

> Maharshi's Gospel P.28

>

> To be continued

>

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Dear Mourad,

 

Thank you. It is good to be in contact again.

 

All regards and best wishes,

 

Alan

 

--- On Tue, 7/10/08, mourad <mourad_shamel wrote:

 

mourad <mourad_shamel

Re: VASANAS continued

 

Tuesday, 7 October, 2008, 9:34 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello Friend Allan

The eradication of man tendencies happens when man loses AMBITION.

I rembember the Zen Master Ryokan saying in a poem:

 

" Too lazy to be ambitious, I let the world take care of itself. Ten

days' worth of rice in my bag a bundle of twigs by the fireplace.

Why chatter about delusion and enlightenment? Listening to the night

rain on my roof, I sit comfortably, with both legs stretched out. "

 

mourad

 

, Alan Jacobs

<alanadamsjacobs@ ...> wrote:

>

>

> VASANAS - CONTINUED

>

> From Padamalai- a superb book containing the advanced teaching of

Sri Bhagavan for mature Sadhaks by Muruganar. Muruganar was a great

Tamil Poet. He became Self realised through Bhagavan Ramana

Maharshi. He usually sat near Bhagavan when Ramana gave Darshan to

Ashram Devotees and answered their questions. He noted down all

Bhagavan's utterances and then wrote them in poetic aphoristic form

in a major work called Padamalai, which means 'A Garland For Padam'.

Padam lierally means 'the foot' and is intentended to mean 'the feet

of the Guru' or Bhagavan himself. This book which many regard as to

be of scriptural status was edited by David Godman and translated by

the Tamil scholars Robert Butler and Dr.T.V.Venkatasubra manian. Up

to now it cannot be downloaded from the web, but can be ordered from

Ramanasramam Book Depot or it is available from Amazon USA and UK.

>

> This reading is from the Chapter entitled Advice on Sadhana, under

the sub heading Vasanas. P.246-7

>

> Vasanas

>

> Vasanas are mental tendencies; the latent desires and feelings

that compel one to behave in a particular way. (Padamalai Glossary)

>

> At a more fundamental level vasanas are the cause of both

manifestation and rebirth. According to Bhagavan, it is the vasanas

that impel the mind to project and witness an illusory world. At the

time of death, the uneradicated vasanas withdraw into the heart

where they remain latent for a while before bringing into existence

a new body and a new world.

>

> THE DESTRUCTION OF ALL VASANAS IS EQUATED WITH SELF-REALISATION

SINCE, IN THAT STATE, THERE IS NO REBIRTH AND NO ILLUSORY, PROJECTED

WORLD.

>

> PADAMALAI p.35. NOTE BY DAVID GODMAN.

>

> FROM PADAMALAI P.247

>

>

> 85

>

> Unless the destruction of [all] vasanas is accomplished, it will

not be possible even for Iswara to bestow the state of liberation.

>

> 86

>

> The felicitous state of immovable peace that never falters will be

attainable only to those who have destroyed the ancient multitude of

vasanas, putting an end to all attachment.

>

> Question: Since realisation is not possible without vasanakshaya

[destruction of vasanas], how am I to realise that state in which

the vasanas are effectively destroyed?

>

> Bhagavan: You are in that state now!

>

> Question: Does it mean that by holding on to the Self, the vasanas

should be destroyed as and when they emerge/

>

> Bhagavan: They will themselves be destroyed if you remain as you

are.

>

> Maharshi's Gospel P.28

>

> To be continued

>

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