AW: Fw: What happens when the True Divine Human Nature Reveals!

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Hello mourad and james,

 

Sri ramana always knew where to "pick up " the person that came to Him for help

and exactly that was what really made the difference.

To your understanding the ego is the cause of suffering,but isn't the suffering the ego

it's self?

That means that the ego has to be understood (cleaned up ) so that the Divine

can shine through it.

 

For an "advanced seeker" there is not question of what the ego is, but james seems to need any help he can get, so that he can proceed "on the way".

 

By the way dear james, when the time is ripe, you too will realise that the seeker is the sought

it's self, and there will not be no matter of "finding the Divinity".

 

In His Grace,

shandoshan.

 

 

 

--- mourad <mourad_shamel schrieb am Sa, 1.11.2008:

Von: mourad <mourad_shamelBetreff: Re: Fw: What happens when the True Divine Human Nature Reveals!An: Datum: Samstag, 1. November 2008, 20:16

 

 

 

Hello Friend

You mentioned "ego cleaning, which means the ego is prepared to face divinity".

From what I understood from Sri Ramana, the ego is good for nothing and is the cause of all suffering.

Whtever cleaning you exert on the ego, it is of no avail; the ego is just like garlic, you cannot get perfume out of garlic. The ego has to be dissolved for the Divine to shine.

mourad

, andreas farsatis <born010405@. ..> wrote:>> > Hello james,> what do you mean by self indulgent?> I find that in the search for the divine,self indulgment> is one of the obstacles one has to get over with.> And the search for the divine is nothing more > than an ego cleaning,which means the ego is prepared to face divinity.> Through Satsang here you will propably get the help you need> to meet divinity without self indulgment.> However,best wishes in whatever you will do..> Sandoshan.>  >  >  > --- james cogdell cogdelljames@ ... schrieb am Fr, 31.10.2008:> > Von: james cogdell cogdelljames@ ...> Betreff: RE: Re: Fw: What happens when the True Divine Human Nature

Reveals!> An: > Datum: Freitag, 31. Oktober 2008, 14:46> > > > > > > Hello Everyone,> I am now giving up all this searching for the divine. It's all far too self indulgent.> Good luck,> James> > > > > > > richard@infinitepie .net> Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:53:36 +0000> Re: Fw: What happens when the True Divine Human Nature Reveals!> > > > > > Michael,> > thank you for posting this heartwarming story. There are dialogs about> ego on the forum. Here is a great example of acting without ego,> acting from love instead of fear.> > Om Arunacalesvaraya Namah,> Richard> > --- In

, "Michael Bindel"> <michael.bindel@ ...> wrote:> >> > from a posting by ram chandran of the advaitin-list> > > > At a fundraising dinner for a school that serves children with > > learning disabilities, the father of one of the students delivered a > > speech that would never be forgotten by all who attended. After > > extolling the school and its dedicated staff, he offered a > > question: 'When not interfered with by outside influences, > > everything nature does, is done with perfection. Yet my son, Shay, > > cannot learn things as other children do. He cannot understand > > things as other children do. Where is the natural order of things in > > my son?'> > > > The audience was stilled by the query. The father continued. 'I > > believe that when a child

like Shay, who was mentally and physically > > disabled comes into the world, an opportunity to realize true human > > nature presents itself, and it comes in the way other people treat > > that child.'> > > > Then he told the following story:> > > > Shay and I had walked past a park where some boys Shay knew were > > playing baseball. Shay asked, 'Do you think they'll let me play?' I > > knew that most of the boys would not want someone like Shay on their > > team, but as a father I also understood that if my son were allowed > > to play, it would give him a much-needed sense of belonging and some > > confidence to be accepted by others in spite of his handicaps.> > > > I approached one of the boys on the field and asked (not expecting > > much) if Shay could play. The boy looked around for guidance and

> > said, 'We're losing by six runs and the game is in the eighth inning. > > I guess he can be on our team and we'll try to put him in to bat in > > the ninth inning.' > > > > Shay struggled over to the team's bench and, with a broad smile, put > > on a team shirt. I watched with a small tear in my eye and warmth in > > my heart. The boys saw my joy at my son being accepted.> > > > In the bottom of the eighth inning, Shay's team scored a few runs > > but was still behind by three. In the top of the ninth inning, Shay > > put on a glove and played in the right field. Even though no hits > > came his way, he was obviously ecstatic just to be in the game and on > > the field, grinning from ear to ear as I waved to him from the > > stands.> > > > In the bottom of the ninth inning, Shay's team scored

again. Now, > > with two outs and the bases loaded, the potential winning run was on > > base and Shay was scheduled to be next at bat.> > > > At this juncture, do they let Shay bat and give away their chance to > > win the game? > > Surprisingly, Shay was given the bat. Everyone knew that a hit was > > all but impossible because Shay didn't even know how to hold the bat > > properly, much less connect with the ball. > > > > However, as Shay stepped up to the plate, the pitcher, recognizing > > that the other team was putting winning aside for this moment in > > Shay's life, moved in a few steps to lob the ball in softly so Shay > > could at least make contact.> > > > The first pitch came and Shay swung clumsily and missed. The pitcher > > again took a few steps forward to toss the ball softly

towards Shay. > > As the pitch came in, Shay swung at the ball and hit a slow ground > > ball right back to the pitcher. > > > > The game would now be over. The pitcher picked up the soft grounder > > and could have easily thrown the ball to the first baseman. Shay > > would have been out and that would have been the end of the game.> > > > Instead, the pitcher threw the ball right over the first baseman's > > head, out of reach of all team mates. Everyone from the stands and > > both teams started yelling, 'Shay, run to first! Run to first!'> > > > Never in his life had Shay ever run that far, but he made it to > > first base. > > He scampered down the baseline, wide-eyed and startled. Everyone > > yelled, 'Run to second, run to second!' > > > > Catching his breath, Shay awkwardly ran

towards second, gleaming and > > struggling to make it to the base. By the time Shay rounded toward > > second base, the right fielder had the ball . the smallest guy on > > their team who now had his first chance to be the hero for his team. > > > > He could have thrown the ball to the second-baseman for the tag, but > > he understood the pitcher's intentions so he, too, intentionally > > threw the ball high and far over the third-baseman' s head. Shay ran > > toward third base deliriously as the runners ahead of him circled > > the bases toward home. All were screaming, 'Shay, Shay, Shay, all > > the Way Shay'> > > > Shay reached third base because the opposing shortstop ran to help > > him by turning him in the direction of third base, and shouted, 'Run > > to third! Shay, run to third!' > > >

> As Shay rounded third, the boys from both teams, and the spectators, > > were on their feet screaming, 'Shay, run home! Run home!' Shay ran to > > home, stepped on the plate, and was cheered as the hero who hit the > > grand slam and won the game for his team. > > > > 'That day', said the father softly with tears now rolling down his > > face, 'the boys from both teams helped bring a piece of true love > > and humanity into this world'.> > > > Shay didn't make it to another summer. He died that winter, having > > never forgotten being the hero and making me so happy, and coming > > home and seeing his Mother tearfully embrace her little hero of the > > day! > > > > AND NOW A LITTLE FOOT NOTE TO THIS STORY:> > > > We all send thousands of messages without a second thought, but when >

> it comes to sending messages about life choices, we hesitate. If > > you're thinking about forwarding this message, chances are that > > you're probably sorting out the people in your address book who > > aren't the 'appropriate' ones to receive this type of message Well, > > the person who sent you this believes that we all can make a > > difference. > > > > We all have thousands of opportunities every single day to help > > realize the 'natural order of things' and recognize our True Divine > > Nature. So many seemingly trivial interactions between two people > > present us with a choice:> > > > Do we pass along a little spark of love and humanity or do we pass > > up those opportunities and leave the world a little bit colder in > > the process?> > > > A wise man once said every society

is judged by how it treats it's > > least fortunate amongst them.> > > > With love and regards to all,> > > > Ram Chandran> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.4/1752 - Release Date:> 28/10/2008 10.04> >> > > > > > For the best free wallpapers from MSN Click here!>