Guest guest Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Here is a perspective from Ganesan I found interesting. He says that religion is about the past and the future (and therefor 9of the mind) whereas spirituality is of the now (and therefor not limited an fundamentally inexpressible). I would also comment that religion is something that comes to us from another and spirituality is what we find for ourselves. For me it is important to see Ramana's teaching as a gateway to spirituality, to looking within, to Self-discovery, and not as a religion (trying to create a 'doctrine' of Ramana's instructions). Om Arunachala, Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Dear Richard, I agree with you that Spiritual life is your own internal life of looking within and going HOME. Religious life is external life. Going to Church or temple, performing rituals etc is religioud life. It is easy to follow Religion but bringing a small change to our usual attitude and being more introspective is rather difficult. Spiritualiy is something to understand and then bring it into practice. Spiritual life is to break barriers detrimental to spiritual growth. The final barrier is of course Ignorance. In His Service Purnima In , " Richard Clarke " <richard wrote: > > Here is a perspective from Ganesan I found interesting. > > He says that religion is about the past and the future (and therefor > 9of the mind) whereas spirituality is of the now (and therefor not > limited an fundamentally inexpressible). > > I would also comment that religion is something that comes to us from > another and spirituality is what we find for ourselves. > > For me it is important to see Ramana's teaching as a gateway to > spirituality, to looking within, to Self-discovery, and not as a > religion (trying to create a 'doctrine' of Ramana's instructions). > > Om Arunachala, > Richard > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Dear friends official normal religion is outward oriented, specially those forms of religions we call missionary religions. Those who do not have the "obligation" to missionary activity are much more inward bound. Meaning in the center of those "official" religions the soul wellbeing of all are central. Looking at the history of "humanity" we observe that religion is always misused as a tool for manipulation and.... In the name of "God" milliards of human have been slaughtered in all imaginable ways and of course in the name of "Love" and "wellbeing" b u t please beware everything is misused....everything just look at holy advaita... so for all seekers its "high time" to get "rid" of all outward bond attention our attention should dwell in looking inward inward alone and finding inward our heaven LOVE its a inner must for the REAL seeker to put in daily PRACTICE this LOVE this michael calls LOVE IN ACTION and only with this LOVE we can state we love GD SELF LOVE IT and whatever name we choose in ITS Grace michael - purnimamujumdar Monday, January 19, 2009 9:19 AM Re: Religion vs. Spirituality Dear Richard,I agree with you that Spiritual life is your own internal life of looking within and going HOME. Religious life is external life. Going to Church or temple, performing rituals etc is religioud life. It is easy to follow Religion but bringing a small change to our usual attitude and being more introspective is rather difficult. Spiritualiy is something to understand and then bring it into practice. Spiritual life is to break barriers detrimental to spiritual growth. The final barrier is of course Ignorance.In His ServicePurnimaIn , "Richard Clarke" <richard wrote:>> Here is a perspective from Ganesan I found interesting.> > He says that religion is about the past and the future (and therefor> 9of the mind) whereas spirituality is of the now (and therefor not> limited an fundamentally inexpressible).> > I would also comment that religion is something that comes to us from> another and spirituality is what we find for ourselves.> > For me it is important to see Ramana's teaching as a gateway to> spirituality, to looking within, to Self-discovery, and not as a> religion (trying to create a 'doctrine' of Ramana's instructions).> > Om Arunachala,> Richard> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.9/1900 - Release 18/01/2009 12.11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Very insightful. Looking to religion may be the first step for a seeker, because we are often left without a clear map. Sometimes it takes research to find the right path to the truth, but I think God instills in us the strong desire and basic principles to help us on our search. Plus, we are are not alone on this path. The Angels and Guides know what is in our heart and they will help show the way if we become aware of the meaning of events in our lives. - Richard Clarke Sunday, January 18, 2009 6:47 PM Religion vs. Spirituality Here is a perspective from Ganesan I found interesting.He says that religion is about the past and the future (and therefor9of the mind) whereas spirituality is of the now (and therefor notlimited an fundamentally inexpressible).I would also comment that religion is something that comes to us fromanother and spirituality is what we find for ourselves.For me it is important to see Ramana's teaching as a gateway tospirituality, to looking within, to Self-discovery, and not as areligion (trying to create a 'doctrine' of Ramana's instructions).Om Arunachala,Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Dear Karla, A long time ago, when still in my teens I told an Episcopal priest " IF God exists, then when is needed is to look inside for the truth. If God does not exist, then what is needed is to look inside oneself for the truth. What do you think of that? " I said, challengingly. He replied, " That is sound theology, son. " What is clear from Ramana's teaching (and Advaita, and many other sources) is that the Truth is NEVER apart from us. Rather, at the deepest 'level' we ARE the Truth (so how could it ever be apart?). Anything that moves us towards this Self-knowledge provides a genuine spiritual benefit. I think we should be grateful for all the teachers we have. Some ancient Indian Sage said something like, " I have had many teachers: the wind, the rain ... (and so forth). " Even he left himself off the list, when the truth is that we know the Truth, not really with the mind which can only see the glowing shadow of the Truth, but with our own (and only) Being. What directs the mind within is spiritually beneficial. What is within? Finally only the Self (which is not anything that comes and goes). Om Arunachala, Richard , " karla " <docdanes wrote: > > Very insightful. Looking to religion may be the first step for a seeker, because we are often left without a clear map. Sometimes it takes research to find the right path to the truth, but I think God instills in us the strong desire and basic principles to help us on our search. Plus, we are are not alone on this path. The Angels and Guides know what is in our heart and they will help show the way if we become aware of the meaning of events in our lives. > - > Richard Clarke > > Sunday, January 18, 2009 6:47 PM > Religion vs. Spirituality > > > Here is a perspective from Ganesan I found interesting. > > He says that religion is about the past and the future (and therefor > 9of the mind) whereas spirituality is of the now (and therefor not > limited an fundamentally inexpressible). > > I would also comment that religion is something that comes to us from > another and spirituality is what we find for ourselves. > > For me it is important to see Ramana's teaching as a gateway to > spirituality, to looking within, to Self-discovery, and not as a > religion (trying to create a 'doctrine' of Ramana's instructions). > > Om Arunachala, > Richard > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 , " Richard Clarke " <richard wrote: > > Here is a perspective from Ganesan I found interesting. > > He says that religion is about the past and the future (and therefor > 9of the mind) whereas spirituality is of the now (and therefor not > limited an fundamentally inexpressible). > > I would also comment that religion is something that comes to us from > another and spirituality is what we find for ourselves. > > For me it is important to see Ramana's teaching as a gateway to > spirituality, to looking within, to Self-discovery, and not as a > religion (trying to create a 'doctrine' of Ramana's instructions). > > Om Arunachala, > Richard > Once heard that, " Relgion is for people who do not want to go to hell. Spirituality is for people who have already been there. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Dear friends this quote---"religion is for people...." is good indeed from whom is it????? - Jeff Belyea Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:49 PM Re: Religion vs. Spirituality , "Richard Clarke" <richard wrote:>> Here is a perspective from Ganesan I found interesting.> > He says that religion is about the past and the future (and therefor> 9of the mind) whereas spirituality is of the now (and therefor not> limited an fundamentally inexpressible).> > I would also comment that religion is something that comes to us from> another and spirituality is what we find for ourselves.> > For me it is important to see Ramana's teaching as a gateway to> spirituality, to looking within, to Self-discovery, and not as a> religion (trying to create a 'doctrine' of Ramana's instructions).> > Om Arunachala,> Richard>Once heard that, "Relgion is for peoplewho do not want to go to hell. Spiritualityis for people who have already been there." Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.10/1903 - Release 19/01/2009 20.52 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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