Guest guest Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 A week end posting for pondering from Swamiji. AJ P.S. He is willing to correspond with members directly, if needs be..--- On Fri, 27/2/09, Swami sadasivananda <sadasivananda wrote: Swami sadasivananda <sadasivanandaFAITH, THE CAUSE OF SELF-REALIZATIONalanadamsjacobsDate: Friday, 27 February, 2009, 3:40 PM “Faith, which is the cause of Self-realization, is the outcome of firm conviction of the truth of Vedantic scriptures and of the words of the Guru.†Sri Ramana Maharshi in Talks The evidence of faith in one’s spiritual life is for many an illusive and nebulous phenomenon. Therefore its importance is usually reduced to a theoretical activity of the mind that has minimal effect with even less verification. This fact holds true only in the worldliest context, and is at once firmly rejected in the context of the Upanishads and by the Illumined Masters that proclaim them. Sri Ramana Maharshi echoed this profound Upanishadic truth in Talks by declaring: “Faith, is the cause of Self-realization.†A clear understanding of how such a profound statement becomes an actual teaching instrument of guidance begins with the very definition of “faith†in the context of the Upanishads. In the book The Further Shore, by Swami Abhishiktananda, a technical essay on The Upanishads: An Introduction reveals the interpretation the Rishis are implying when guiding us to develop faith, which will cause Self-realization. “All religion is based on faith and aims at deepening that faith, at enabling its light to shine at full strength, until it illuminates every human faculty. Contrary to what is too often supposed, faith does not primarily consist in the mind’s acceptance of certain propositions, termed ‘data of revelation’. Faith is essentially that interior sense by which the mind penetrates obscurely into those depths of one’s own being which it realizes are beyond its power to explore solely by means of thought and sense-perception… It is above all an interior attitude of faith, in the fundamental sense referred to above, that is to say, of being open to the invisible, to mystery.†Sri Ramana Maharshi directly guides us to the doors of experience that will open to us the sensitivity to directly encounter the mysterious realms invisible to the perceiving faculties of the mind: “Descending from the head to the Heart is the beginning of sadhana.†Here again, from the worldly-minded realm of life, getting from the head to the Heart is an experience even more nebulous and fleeting than the development of faith. But the Rishis, the communicators of the experience of Divine Revelation, foresaw this human dilemma. They carefully outlined for us the ‘ways and means’ to develop faith, to develop the necessary sensitivity to pierce beyond the limitations of the mind, wherein lies the “speaking Silence†of the Heart. It has been said that the Upanishads are not in-and-of themselves the Truth, but are rather like fingers that point towards the experience of the Truth. In the beginning stages of this journey towards experience there is needed an implicit trust in the teachings of the Guru and the words of Scripture. There is however, a coinciding urge and enticement to press on beyond them, towards the secrets they reveal, toward the Grace they invoke. The Rishis of Sanatana Dharma, the Eternal Religion, proclaimed the Upanishads to be the Eternal science. In doing so, they scientifically outlined for us the systematic methods of abhyasa, the means of repeated spiritual practice, which would produce the fullness of existence within the ‘experiment of life’. This ‘fullness of existence’ is direct and undeniable Knowledge of God. It is the Knowledge that liberates us from the shackles of the sorrows and joys of transitory existence. Thus when a devotee once asked the Maharshi: “What is Moksha (liberation)?†Bhagavan replied: “Moksha is to know that you were not born. ‘Be still and know that I am God.’ To be still is not to think. Know, and not think, is the word.†(Talks #130) In quoting the Bible, Bhagavan was echoing the Upanishad’s mystical formula for liberation. When one stills the thinking faculty of the mind, an inner flame is kindled by which a deep experience, though still obscure and inarticulate, issues forth illuminating the abode of God, the Cave of the Heart. Although undoubtedly for us this Divine illumination is thrilling, even ecstatic, we are at once faced with the inevitable dimming of this vision, for the mind is still very dedicated to its life-long goal of distracting us outwards, which preserves it’s power and very existence. Quite literally, the moment we experience a glimpse of the Presence of God in the Heart, we inevitably arrive at the possibility of losing It. Though in the absolute sense this Divine state of consciousness has never been lost, our perception of it, our sensitivity to It’s Presence has been dimmed. It is for this reason that we wander from birth to birth, that we, as the Maharshi states, know birth! By the Grace of God, and the benevolent compassion of Sri Ramana Maharshi, we are given in Talks 27 direct counsel how to secure our newfound attainment of Higher Life: “Devotee: How long can the mind stay or be kept in the Heart? Maharshi: The period extends by practice. D.: What happens at the end of the period? M.: The mind returns to the present normal state. Unity in the Heart is replaced by variety of phenomena perceived. This is called the outgoing mind. The heart-going mind is called the resting mind. D.: Is all this process merely intellectual or does it exhibit feeling predominantly? M.: The latter. D.: How do all thoughts cease when the mind is in the Heart? M.: By force of will, with strong faith in the truth of the Master’s teaching to that effect. D.: What is the good of this process? M.: (a) Conquest of the will - development of concentration. (b) Conquest of passions - development of dispassion. © Increased practice of virtue - (samatva) equality to all. (d) Faith, which is the cause of Self-realization, is the outcome of firm conviction of the truth of Vedantic scriptures and of the words of the Guru.†The Rishis, like us, were human; therefore subject to the outward waywardness of the lower mind (the ego). Their persevering dedication to overcome (literally to get over, or above) the mind, through the practice that our Bhagavan intimates as being empowered through faith, produced very methodical and effective methods that have been delivered to us as the words of Scripture and the teachings of the Masters. In Swami Abhishiktananda’s essay, quoted from above, the Upanishadic Scripture defines faith, in its essential active state, as the acquisition of four fundamental attitudes: 1) A sense of discrimination between that which is transitory and that which is permanent, both in oneself and in the world; consequently- 2) A total indifference towards all fruits of action, whether moral or religious, which carry so-called rewards either in this world or in the next, including even immortality; 3) The quietening of the faculties. In the Vedantasara, where these four fundamental attitudes (sadhana) are listed, the third appears in the form of a list of “six things†which have to be practiced. The first two of these are ‘quietening (sama) and ‘self-restraint’ (dama). And finally, 4) A desire for salvation or liberation such that all other desires vanish even in thought. (cp. Br. Upanishad 4.3.21 and 4.4.6.) “He who desires the Self (atma-kama) is consequently the one who is free from all (other) desires (a-kama).†“The Upanishads in fact do not consist primarily of revealed truths which can be transmitted through the medium of concepts and words, even if one has to admit that the passing on of experience has to be done, at least in the early stages, in this way. The Upanishadic seer is much less the man who ‘knows this or that’, than the man who ‘knows thus (evam)’, as the Upanishads constantly reiterates, calling him evamvid. It is like a new way of knowing, a new way of looking at things, at the world, a new illumination which makes one perceive everything quite differently. It is essentially a matter of passing on an experience of oneself, which does not convey any new information, so to speak, but which is much more an awakening to oneself, to things, to the mystery which, when projected, is called God.â€OM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Dear Alan and others: Thank you for some wonderful postings. I just read such a deep and insightful article just uploaded by our brother Mourad. It is so pure. Let me give you a link here. guard-your-mind I enjoyed reading it so much. Also Radhe-ji yesterday uploaded her article on Krishna. radhes-tears-by-joyce-sweinberg Krishnamurthy-ji is continuing with his series as well on this list and another brilliant series of article on the Advaitin list. ulladu-naarpadu-reality-in-forty-verses-verse-5 Words fail me at seeing the brilliance of our brothers and sisters here. Namaste and love to all Yours in Bhagavan Harsha On Behalf Of Alan Jacobs Friday, February 27, 2009 10:56 AM Re: FAITH, THE CAUSE OF SELF-REALIZATION A week end posting for pondering from Swamiji. AJ P.S. He is willing to correspond with members directly, if needs be.. --- On Fri, 27/2/09, Swami sadasivananda <sadasivananda wrote: Swami sadasivananda <sadasivananda FAITH, THE CAUSE OF SELF-REALIZATION alanadamsjacobs Friday, 27 February, 2009, 3:40 PM “Faith, which is the cause of Self-realization, is the outcome of firm conviction of the truth of Vedantic scriptures and of the words of the Guru.†Sri Ramana Maharshi in Talks The evidence of faith in one’s spiritual life is for many an illusive and nebulous phenomenon. Therefore its importance is usually reduced to a theoretical activity of the mind that has minimal effect with even less verification. This fact holds true only in the worldliest context, and is at once firmly rejected in the context of the Upanishads and by the Illumined Masters that proclaim them. Sri Ramana Maharshi echoed this profound Upanishadic truth in Talks by declaring: “Faith, is the cause of Self-realization.†A clear understanding of how such a profound statement becomes an actual teaching instrument of guidance begins with the very definition of “faith†in the context of the Upanishads. In the book The Further Shore, by Swami Abhishiktananda, a technical essay on The Upanishads: An Introduction reveals the interpretation the Rishis are implying when guiding us to develop faith, which will cause Self-realization. “All religion is based on faith and aims at deepening that faith, at enabling its light to shine at full strength, until it illuminates every human faculty. Contrary to what is too often supposed, faith does not primarily consist in the mind’s acceptance of certain propositions, termed ‘data of revelation’. Faith is essentially that interior sense by which the mind penetrates obscurely into those depths of one’s own being which it realizes are beyond its power to explore solely by means of thought and sense-perception… It is above all an interior attitude of faith, in the fundamental sense referred to above, that is to say, of being open to the invisible, to mystery.†Sri Ramana Maharshi directly guides us to the doors of experience that will open to us the sensitivity to directly encounter the mysterious realms invisible to the perceiving faculties of the mind: “Descending from the head to the Heart is the beginning of sadhana.†Here again, from the worldly-minded realm of life, getting from the head to the Heart is an experience even more nebulous and fleeting than the development of faith. But the Rishis, the communicators of the experience of Divine Revelation, foresaw this human dilemma. They carefully outlined for us the ‘ways and means’ to develop faith, to develop the necessary sensitivity to pierce beyond the limitations of the mind, wherein lies the “speaking Silence†of the Heart. It has been said that the Upanishads are not in-and-of themselves the Truth, but are rather like fingers that point towards the experience of the Truth. In the beginning stages of this journey towards experience there is needed an implicit trust in the teachings of the Guru and the words of Scripture. There is however, a coinciding urge and enticement to press on beyond them, towards the secrets they reveal, toward the Grace they invoke. The Rishis of Sanatana Dharma, the Eternal Religion, proclaimed the Upanishads to be the Eternal science. In doing so, they scientifically outlined for us the systematic methods of abhyasa, the means of repeated spiritual practice, which would produce the fullness of existence within the ‘experiment of life’. This ‘fullness of existence’ is direct and undeniable Knowledge of God. It is the Knowledge that liberates us from the shackles of the sorrows and joys of transitory existence. Thus when a devotee once asked the Maharshi: “What is Moksha (liberation)?†Bhagavan replied: “Moksha is to know that you were not born. ‘Be still and know that I am God.’ To be still is not to think. Know, and not think, is the word.†(Talks #130) In quoting the Bible, Bhagavan was echoing the Upanishad’s mystical formula for liberation. When one stills the thinking faculty of the mind, an inner flame is kindled by which a deep experience, though still obscure and inarticulate, issues forth illuminating the abode of God, the Cave of the Heart. Although undoubtedly for us this Divine illumination is thrilling, even ecstatic, we are at once faced with the inevitable dimming of this vision, for the mind is still very dedicated to its life-long goal of distracting us outwards, which preserves it’s power and very existence. Quite literally, the moment we experience a glimpse of the Presence of God in the Heart, we inevitably arrive at the possibility of losing It. Though in the absolute sense this Divine state of consciousness has never been lost, our perception of it, our sensitivity to It’s Presence has been dimmed. It is for this reason that we wander from birth to birth, that we, as the Maharshi states, know birth! By the Grace of God, and the benevolent compassion of Sri Ramana Maharshi, we are given in Talks 27 direct counsel how to secure our newfound attainment of Higher Life: “Devotee: How long can the mind stay or be kept in the Heart? Maharshi: The period extends by practice. D.: What happens at the end of the period? M.: The mind returns to the present normal state. Unity in the Heart is replaced by variety of phenomena perceived. This is called the outgoing mind. The heart-going mind is called the resting mind. D.: Is all this process merely intellectual or does it exhibit feeling predominantly? M.: The latter. D.: How do all thoughts cease when the mind is in the Heart? M.: By force of will, with strong faith in the truth of the Master’s teaching to that effect. D.: What is the good of this process? M.: (a) Conquest of the will - development of concentration. (b) Conquest of passions - development of dispassion. © Increased practice of virtue - (samatva) equality to all. (d) Faith, which is the cause of Self-realization, is the outcome of firm conviction of the truth of Vedantic scriptures and of the words of the Guru.†The Rishis, like us, were human; therefore subject to the outward waywardness of the lower mind (the ego). Their persevering dedication to overcome (literally to get over, or above) the mind, through the practice that our Bhagavan intimates as being empowered through faith, produced very methodical and effective methods that have been delivered to us as the words of Scripture and the teachings of the Masters. In Swami Abhishiktananda’s essay, quoted from above, the Upanishadic Scripture defines faith, in its essential active state, as the acquisition of four fundamental attitudes: 1) A sense of discrimination between that which is transitory and that which is permanent, both in oneself and in the world; consequently- 2) A total indifference towards all fruits of action, whether moral or religious, which carry so-called rewards either in this world or in the next, including even immortality; 3) The quietening of the faculties. In the Vedantasara, where these four fundamental attitudes (sadhana) are listed, the third appears in the form of a list of “six things†which have to be practiced. The first two of these are ‘quietening (sama) and ‘self-restraint’ (dama). And finally, 4) A desire for salvation or liberation such that all other desires vanish even in thought. (cp. Br. Upanishad 4.3.21 and 4.4.6.) “He who desires the Self (atma-kama) is consequently the one who is free from all (other) desires (a-kama).†“The Upanishads in fact do not consist primarily of revealed truths which can be transmitted through the medium of concepts and words, even if one has to admit that the passing on of experience has to be done, at least in the early stages, in this way. The Upanishadic seer is much less the man who ‘knows this or that’, than the man who ‘knows thus (evam)’, as the Upanishads constantly reiterates, calling him evamvid. It is like a new way of knowing, a new way of looking at things, at the world, a new illumination which makes one perceive everything quite differently. It is essentially a matter of passing on an experience of oneself, which does not convey any new information, so to speak, but which is much more an awakening to oneself, to things, to the mystery which, when projected, is called God.†OM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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