Guest guest Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Hello Sandoshan, I am again asking you the source of this quote you attributed to Sri Ramana. In the past, we have had quotes a few times attributed to Sri Ramana which turned out to be wrong. Because this is a Sri Ramana list, it is critical that people not be careless in this regard. If this quote attributed to Sri Ramana has a specific source, I would appreciate your providing it. Thank you. Namaste and love to all Yours in Bhagavan Harsha On Behalf Of Harsha Friday, February 27, 2009 8:54 AM RE: to all concerned Dear Sandoshan, What is the source of this quote you gave by Sri Ramana. I would really appreciate knowing. Sorry if it was already given and I missed it. Namaste and love to all Yours in Bhagavan Harsha On Behalf Of andreas farsatis Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:30 AM AW: to all concerned Dear Michael sometimes I re-mind my self of Sri Ramanas words: " what would you be without the stories you tell about your self? " . In Peace through His Grace, Shandosham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 It's a Byron Katie quote, and the baic foundational question on which her paradigm " The Work " is built. Jeff PS: Don't know is Ramana said it, as well. , " Harsha " wrote: > > Hello Sandoshan, > > > > I am again asking you the source of this quote you attributed to Sri Ramana. > In the past, we have had quotes a few times attributed to Sri Ramana which > turned out to be wrong. > > > > Because this is a Sri Ramana list, it is critical that people not be > careless in this regard. If this quote attributed to Sri Ramana has a > specific source, I would appreciate your providing it. > > > > Thank you. > > > > Namaste and love to all > > > > Yours in Bhagavan > > Harsha > > > > > On Behalf Of Harsha > Friday, February 27, 2009 8:54 AM > > RE: to all concerned > > > > Dear Sandoshan, > > > > What is the source of this quote you gave by Sri Ramana. I would really > appreciate knowing. Sorry if it was already given and I missed it. > > > > Namaste and love to all > > > > Yours in Bhagavan > > Harsha > > > > > On Behalf Of andreas farsatis > Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:30 AM > > AW: to all concerned Dear Michael sometimes I re-mind my self > > of Sri Ramanas words: " what would you be without the stories > > you tell about your self? " . > > > > In Peace through His Grace, > > > > Shandosham > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Thank you Jeff. I don't know Byron Katie. What Sandoshan provided did not appear to me to be a Ramana quote. That is why I asked for a source. I would be surprised if it turns out to be a Ramana quote. Sri Ramana did not speak like that. We will wait for Sandoshan to respond and provide a source, if there is one, of the quote that was attributed to Sri Ramana. This has happened before where someone says something that is claimed to have been uttered by Sri Ramana. Some devotees upon hearing it start to nod their heads saying how insightful and brilliant it is, etc. Honestly, I don't know whether to laugh or cry when that happens. We will wait to hear from Sandoshan and give the opportunity for correction. Namaste and love Yours in Bhagavan Harsha On Behalf Of Jeff Belyea Sunday, March 01, 2009 4:56 PM Re: to all concerned/Again requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri Ramana It's a Byron Katie quote, and the baic foundational question on which her paradigm " The Work " is built. Jeff PS: Don't know is Ramana said it, as well. , " Harsha " wrote: > > Hello Sandoshan, > > > > I am again asking you the source of this quote you attributed to Sri Ramana. > In the past, we have had quotes a few times attributed to Sri Ramana which > turned out to be wrong. > > > > Because this is a Sri Ramana list, it is critical that people not be > careless in this regard. If this quote attributed to Sri Ramana has a > specific source, I would appreciate your providing it. > > > > Thank you. > > > > Namaste and love to all > > > > Yours in Bhagavan > > Harsha > > > > > On Behalf Of Harsha > Friday, February 27, 2009 8:54 AM > > RE: to all concerned > > > > Dear Sandoshan, > > > > What is the source of this quote you gave by Sri Ramana. I would really > appreciate knowing. Sorry if it was already given and I missed it. > > > > Namaste and love to all > > > > Yours in Bhagavan > > Harsha > > > > > On Behalf Of andreas farsatis > Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:30 AM > > AW: to all concerned Dear Michael sometimes I re-mind my self > > of Sri Ramanas words: " what would you be without the stories > > you tell about your self? " . > > > > In Peace through His Grace, > > > > Shandosham > --- is supported by . New articles are added there on a continuous basis. Please register at . You will be kept updated and get the new articles which are posted on the site very nicely formatted in your e-mail. Friends, after registering at , if you wish to contribute your writing to the site, please let me know. Your articles should be original, well written, using subtitles, and be carefully proofread and polished. For a list of topics considered, please go to and take a look at the site. Thanks. Namaste and love to all Harsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Dear Harsha and all others regarding this quote i have to admit that its really great because "in the end" our personal story is "just" ego of course it can lead us to lift the curtain of no-knowledge.... but to understand this it nees maturity in all instances the most of it putting inner knowledge into daily life i was really happy having read Sandoshans message, which was intended for me and was indeed HELP at the right moment thanks to Grace regarding "Byron Katie" dear Harsha like i told you years ago i agree with your stated message that you "stick" to our Sadguru and that - without judging at all - the neoadvaitins like Byron Katie are "not in the same categorie" (my words) what i feel: when you found your TRUTH stick to it and live it moment to moment "nothing else" is necessary light and love to all of us in Sri Ramana Maharshi michael - Harsha Monday, March 02, 2009 12:01 AM RE: to all concerned/Again requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri Ramana Thank you Jeff. I don't know Byron Katie.What Sandoshan provided did not appear to me to be a Ramana quote. That iswhy I asked for a source. I would be surprised if it turns out to be aRamana quote.Sri Ramana did not speak like that. We will wait for Sandoshan to respond and provide a source, if there is one,of the quote that was attributed to Sri Ramana. This has happened before where someone says something that is claimed tohave been uttered by Sri Ramana. Some devotees upon hearing it start to nodtheir heads saying how insightful and brilliant it is, etc.Honestly, I don't know whether to laugh or cry when that happens. We will wait to hear from Sandoshan and give the opportunity for correction.Namaste and loveYours in BhagavanHarsha On Behalf Of Jeff BelyeaSunday, March 01, 2009 4:56 PM Subject: Re: to all concerned/Againrequesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri RamanaIt's a Byron Katie quote,and the baic foundationalquestion on which herparadigm "The Work" is built.JeffPS: Don't know is Ramanasaid it, as well. , "Harsha" wrote:>> Hello Sandoshan,> > > > I am again asking you the source of this quote you attributed to SriRamana.> In the past, we have had quotes a few times attributed to Sri Ramanawhich> turned out to be wrong.> > > > Because this is a Sri Ramana list, it is critical that people not be> careless in this regard. If this quote attributed to Sri Ramana has a> specific source, I would appreciate your providing it.> > > > Thank you.> > > > Namaste and love to all> > > > Yours in Bhagavan> > Harsha> > > > [ ]> On Behalf Of Harsha> Friday, February 27, 2009 8:54 AM> > RE: to all concerned> > > > Dear Sandoshan,> > > > What is the source of this quote you gave by Sri Ramana. I would really> appreciate knowing. Sorry if it was already given and I missed it.> > > > Namaste and love to all> > > > Yours in Bhagavan> > Harsha> > > > [ ]> On Behalf Of andreas farsatis> Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:30 AM> > AW: to all concerned> > > > > > > Dear Michael sometimes I re-mind my self> > of Sri Ramanas words:" what would you be without the stories> > you tell about your self?".> > > > In Peace through His Grace,> > > > Shandosham>--- is supported by . New articles are addedthere on a continuous basis. Please register at . You willbe kept updated and get the new articles which are posted on the site verynicely formatted in your e-mail.Friends, after registering at , if you wish to contributeyour writing to the site, please let me know. Your articles should beoriginal, well written, using subtitles, and be carefully proofread andpolished. For a list of topics considered, please go to and take a look at the site. Thanks. Namaste and love to allHarsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Namaste, this particular quote was send to me years ago by a friend who lives in Australia. I just phoned him to make sure that its from Sri Ramana and his answer was "yes" but after a short research we found out that the quote has been stated by Byron Katie. Excuse the inaccuracy please and sorry for the late responce. Yours in Baghavan, Sandoshan --- Harsha schrieb am So, 1.3.2009: Von: Harsha Betreff: RE: to all concerned/Again requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri RamanaAn: Datum: Sonntag, 1. März 2009, 21:40 Hello Sandoshan, I am again asking you the source of this quote you attributed to Sri Ramana. In the past, we have had quotes a few times attributed to Sri Ramana which turned out to be wrong. Because this is a Sri Ramana list, it is critical that people not be careless in this regard. If this quote attributed to Sri Ramana has a specific source, I would appreciate your providing it. Thank you. Namaste and love to all Yours in Bhagavan Harsha [HarshaSatsa ngh ] On Behalf Of HarshaFriday, February 27, 2009 8:54 AMRE: to all concerned Dear Sandoshan, What is the source of this quote you gave by Sri Ramana. I would really appreciate knowing. Sorry if it was already given and I missed it. Namaste and love to all Yours in Bhagavan Harsha [HarshaSatsa ngh ] On Behalf Of andreas farsatisThursday, February 26, 2009 9:30 AMAW: to all concerned Dear Michael sometimes I re-mind my self of Sri Ramanas words:" what would you be without the stories you tell about your self?". In Peace through His Grace, Shandosham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Dear Sandoshan, Thank you for clarifying. Attributing someone else’s words to Sri Ramana has happened before on this list. Whenever that happens (and if I see the message), I instantly sense something does not sound right. Even when Sri Ramana’s words have been translated into English from Tamil, there is a certain quality to them (for me). A child know his mother and rarely confuses her with another woman. A child knows how his mother acts, speaks, what she is likely to say in any given situation, and is intimate with the very presence of her being. That is how it is with me and the Bhagavan Ramana, the Sage of Arunachala. We had one time someone attribute a quote to Ramana when it was from Nisargadatta. At that time also, I asked for the source and it turned out it was indeed from Nisargadatta. The fact that I express my doubt frankly on these matters possibly creates some irritation. But please everyone should keep in mind that this list is devoted to Sri Ramana. In my view, it is simply basic courtesy to not be careless when suggesting that Sri Ramana said something. There are so many neo-advaita teachers now. Even every day pop psychologists like Dr. Phil in the U.S. have joined in and provide solutions to many problems. There is nothing wrong with that, of course. Probably, they help a lot of people who have need for their type of teaching and style. For Bhagavan’s devotees, however, things might be a little different. Without giving in to the glamour of the self-help gurus, neo advaita teachers, and charismatic psychologists, devotees should take care to keep their outlook pure in Bhagavan and the vision steady turned upon itself for Self-Realization. This sangha is devoted to the purest teachings as given by Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi. I apologize if I have hurt any feelings and hope you understand my perspective. Namaste and love to all Yours in Bhagavan Harsha On Behalf Of andreas farsatis Monday, March 02, 2009 8:34 AM RE: to all concerned/Again requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri Ramana Namaste, this particular quote was send to me years ago by a friend who lives in Australia. I just phoned him to make sure that its from Sri Ramana and his answer was " yes " but after a short research we found out that the quote has been stated by Byron Katie. Excuse the inaccuracy please and sorry for the late responce. Yours in Baghavan, Sandoshan --- Harsha schrieb am So, 1.3.2009: Von: Harsha Betreff: RE: to all concerned/Again requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri Ramana An: Datum: Sonntag, 1. März 2009, 21:40 Hello Sandoshan, I am again asking you the source of this quote you attributed to Sri Ramana. In the past, we have had quotes a few times attributed to Sri Ramana which turned out to be wrong. Because this is a Sri Ramana list, it is critical that people not be careless in this regard. If this quote attributed to Sri Ramana has a specific source, I would appreciate your providing it. Thank you. Namaste and love to all Yours in Bhagavan Harsha [HarshaSatsa ngh ] On Behalf Of Harsha Friday, February 27, 2009 8:54 AM RE: to all concerned Dear Sandoshan, What is the source of this quote you gave by Sri Ramana. I would really appreciate knowing. Sorry if it was already given and I missed it. Namaste and love to all Yours in Bhagavan Harsha [HarshaSatsa ngh ] On Behalf Of andreas farsatis Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:30 AM AW: to all concerned Dear Michael sometimes I re-mind my self of Sri Ramanas words: " what would you be without the stories you tell about your self? " . In Peace through His Grace, Shandosham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Harsha wrote: > > Dear Sandoshan, > > Thank you for clarifying. Attributing someone else’s words to Sri > Ramana has happened before on this list. Whenever that happens (and if > I see the message), I instantly sense something does not sound right. > Even when Sri Ramana’s words have been translated into English from > Tamil, there is a certain quality to them (for me). > > A child know his mother and rarely confuses her with another woman. A > child knows how his mother acts, speaks, what she is likely to say in > any given situation, and is intimate with the very presence of her > being. That is how it is with me and the Bhagavan Ramana, the Sage of > Arunachala. > > We had one time someone attribute a quote to Ramana when it was from > Nisargadatta. At that time also, I asked for the source and it turned > out it was indeed from Nisargadatta. The fact that I express my doubt > frankly on these matters possibly creates some irritation. > > But please everyone should keep in mind that this list is devoted to > Sri Ramana. In my view, it is simply basic courtesy to not be careless > when suggesting that Sri Ramana said something. > > There are so many neo-advaita teachers now. Even every day pop > psychologists like Dr. Phil in the U.S. have joined in and provide > solutions to many problems. There is nothing wrong with that, of > course. Probably, they help a lot of people who have need for their > type of teaching and style. > > For Bhagavan’s devotees, however, things might be a little different. > > Without giving in to the glamour of the self-help gurus, neo advaita > teachers, and charismatic psychologists, devotees should take care to > keep their outlook pure in Bhagavan and the vision steady turned upon > itself for Self-Realization. > > This sangha is devoted to the purest teachings as given by Sri > Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi. > > I apologize if I have hurt any feelings and hope you understand my > perspective. > > Namaste and love to all > > Yours in Bhagavan > > Harsha > thank you, hashaji. indeed, ramana's words has certain imperceptible, yet unmistakable, and instantly recognizable quality. according to rumi: " a false coin is a proof that real gold exist " . beloved ramana is pure gold, and we are extremely lucky... thank you too, sandosham, for acting as befits member of bhagawan's family. jai jai ramana, who by mere mention of his name, conveys his grace forming this company of friends jai ramana, whose mere remembrance elicits the purest and noblest in us paving the road to our very own one and only self which we never left. @}->,->'-- gratefully, yosy > ** > *On Behalf Of *andreas farsatis > *Sent:* Monday, March 02, 2009 8:34 AM > *To:* > *Subject:* RE: to all concerned/Again > requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri Ramana > > Namaste, > > this particular quote was send to me years ago by a friend who lives > in Australia. > > I just phoned him to make sure that its from Sri Ramana and his > > answer was " yes " but after a short research we found out that > > the quote has been stated by Byron Katie. > > Excuse the inaccuracy please and sorry for the late responce. > > Yours in Baghavan, > > Sandoshan > > > > --- Harsha // schrieb am *So, 1.3.2009:* > > *Von: Harsha > Betreff: RE: to all concerned/Again > requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri Ramana > An: > Datum: Sonntag, 1. März 2009, 21:40* > > *Hello Sandoshan,* > > * * > > *I am again asking you the source of this quote you attributed to > Sri Ramana. In the past, we have had quotes a few times attributed > to Sri Ramana which turned out to be wrong.* > > * * > > *Because this is a Sri Ramana list, it is critical that people not > be careless in this regard. If this quote attributed to Sri Ramana > has a specific source, I would appreciate your providing it.* > > * * > > *Thank you.* > > * * > > *Namaste and love to all* > > * * > > *Yours in Bhagavan* > > *Harsha* > > * * > > * [HarshaSatsa > ngh ] On Behalf Of Harsha > Friday, February 27, 2009 8:54 AM > > RE: to all concerned* > > * * > > *Dear Sandoshan,* > > * * > > *What is the source of this quote you gave by Sri Ramana. I would > really appreciate knowing. Sorry if it was already given and I missed it.* > > * * > > *Namaste and love to all* > > * * > > *Yours in Bhagavan* > > *Harsha* > > * * > > * [HarshaSatsa > ngh ] On Behalf Of andreas farsatis > Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:30 AM > > AW: to all concerned* > > * * > > Dear Michael sometimes I re-mind my self > > of Sri Ramanas words: " what would you be without the stories > > you tell about your self? " . > > In Peace through His Grace, > > Shandosham > > * * > > > > > > __._,_.__ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Dear Harsha, thank you for making your perspective clear, fortunately is my perspective not very different to yours. There is no need to apologize becouse as Sri Ramana said: " Only who is on the top of the hill has no problems". Yours in Baghavan, Santoshan --- Harsha schrieb am Mo, 2.3.2009: Von: Harsha Betreff: RE: to all concerned/Again requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri RamanaAn: Datum: Montag, 2. März 2009, 15:39 Dear Sandoshan, Thank you for clarifying. Attributing someone else’s words to Sri Ramana has happened before on this list. Whenever that happens (and if I see the message), I instantly sense something does not sound right. Even when Sri Ramana’s words have been translated into English from Tamil, there is a certain quality to them (for me). A child know his mother and rarely confuses her with another woman. A child knows how his mother acts, speaks, what she is likely to say in any given situation, and is intimate with the very presence of her being. That is how it is with me and the Bhagavan Ramana, the Sage of Arunachala. We had one time someone attribute a quote to Ramana when it was from Nisargadatta. At that time also, I asked for the source and it turned out it was indeed from Nisargadatta. The fact that I express my doubt frankly on these matters possibly creates some irritation. But please everyone should keep in mind that this list is devoted to Sri Ramana. In my view, it is simply basic courtesy to not be careless when suggesting that Sri Ramana said something. There are so many neo-advaita teachers now. Even every day pop psychologists like Dr. Phil in the U.S. have joined in and provide solutions to many problems. There is nothing wrong with that, of course. Probably, they help a lot of people who have need for their type of teaching and style. For Bhagavan’s devotees, however, things might be a little different. Without giving in to the glamour of the self-help gurus, neo advaita teachers, and charismatic psychologists, devotees should take care to keep their outlook pure in Bhagavan and the vision steady turned upon itself for Self-Realization. This sangha is devoted to the purest teachings as given by Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi. I apologize if I have hurt any feelings and hope you understand my perspective. Namaste and love to all Yours in Bhagavan Harsha [HarshaSatsa ngh ] On Behalf Of andreas farsatisMonday, March 02, 2009 8:34 AMRE: to all concerned/Again requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri Ramana Namaste, this particular quote was send to me years ago by a friend who lives in Australia. I just phoned him to make sure that its from Sri Ramana and his answer was "yes" but after a short research we found out that the quote has been stated by Byron Katie. Excuse the inaccuracy please and sorry for the late responce. Yours in Baghavan, Sandoshan --- Harsha <harsha@harshasatsan gh.com> schrieb am So, 1.3.2009: Von: Harsha <harsha@harshasatsan gh.com>Betreff: RE: to all concerned/Again requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri RamanaAn: Datum: Sonntag, 1. März 2009, 21:40 Hello Sandoshan, I am again asking you the source of this quote you attributed to Sri Ramana. In the past, we have had quotes a few times attributed to Sri Ramana which turned out to be wrong. Because this is a Sri Ramana list, it is critical that people not be careless in this regard. If this quote attributed to Sri Ramana has a specific source, I would appreciate your providing it. Thank you. Namaste and love to all Yours in Bhagavan Harsha [HarshaSatsa ngh ] On Behalf Of HarshaFriday, February 27, 2009 8:54 AMRE: to all concerned Dear Sandoshan, What is the source of this quote you gave by Sri Ramana. I would really appreciate knowing. Sorry if it was already given and I missed it. Namaste and love to all Yours in Bhagavan Harsha [HarshaSatsa ngh ] On Behalf Of andreas farsatisThursday, February 26, 2009 9:30 AMAW: to all concerned Dear Michael sometimes I re-mind my self of Sri Ramanas words:" what would you be without the stories you tell about your self?". In Peace through His Grace, Shandosham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Dear Santoshan, Thank you for your note. I am curious. You specifically quote Sri Ramana as saying, “ " Only who is on the top of the hill has no problems " . You put the statement in quotation marks and so I assume that you must know the source of it. I also would like to know the source and the context in which that comment was made. Thanks in advance. It is generally accepted protocol to provide the exact source when specifically quoting someone. Namaste and love Yours in Bhagavan Harsha On Behalf Of andreas farsatis Tuesday, March 03, 2009 7:47 AM RE: to all concerned/Again requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri Ramana Dear Harsha, thank you for making your perspective clear, fortunately is my perspective not very different to yours. There is no need to apologize becouse as Sri Ramana said: " Only who is on the top of the hill has no problems " . Yours in Baghavan, Santoshan --- Harsha schrieb am Mo, 2.3.2009: Von: Harsha Betreff: RE: to all concerned/Again requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri Ramana An: Datum: Montag, 2. März 2009, 15:39 Dear Sandoshan, Thank you for clarifying. Attributing someone else’s words to Sri Ramana has happened before on this list. Whenever that happens (and if I see the message), I instantly sense something does not sound right. Even when Sri Ramana’s words have been translated into English from Tamil, there is a certain quality to them (for me). A child know his mother and rarely confuses her with another woman. A child knows how his mother acts, speaks, what she is likely to say in any given situation, and is intimate with the very presence of her being. That is how it is with me and the Bhagavan Ramana, the Sage of Arunachala. We had one time someone attribute a quote to Ramana when it was from Nisargadatta. At that time also, I asked for the source and it turned out it was indeed from Nisargadatta. The fact that I express my doubt frankly on these matters possibly creates some irritation. But please everyone should keep in mind that this list is devoted to Sri Ramana. In my view, it is simply basic courtesy to not be careless when suggesting that Sri Ramana said something. There are so many neo-advaita teachers now. Even every day pop psychologists like Dr. Phil in the U.S. have joined in and provide solutions to many problems. There is nothing wrong with that, of course. Probably, they help a lot of people who have need for their type of teaching and style. For Bhagavan’s devotees, however, things might be a little different. Without giving in to the glamour of the self-help gurus, neo advaita teachers, and charismatic psychologists, devotees should take care to keep their outlook pure in Bhagavan and the vision steady turned upon itself for Self-Realization. This sangha is devoted to the purest teachings as given by Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi. I apologize if I have hurt any feelings and hope you understand my perspective. Namaste and love to all Yours in Bhagavan Harsha [HarshaSatsa ngh ] On Behalf Of andreas farsatis Monday, March 02, 2009 8:34 AM RE: to all concerned/Again requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri Ramana Namaste, this particular quote was send to me years ago by a friend who lives in Australia. I just phoned him to make sure that its from Sri Ramana and his answer was " yes " but after a short research we found out that the quote has been stated by Byron Katie. Excuse the inaccuracy please and sorry for the late responce. Yours in Baghavan, Sandoshan --- Harsha <harsha@harshasatsan gh.com> schrieb am So, 1.3.2009: Von: Harsha <harsha@harshasatsan gh.com> Betreff: RE: to all concerned/Again requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri Ramana An: Datum: Sonntag, 1. März 2009, 21:40 Hello Sandoshan, I am again asking you the source of this quote you attributed to Sri Ramana. In the past, we have had quotes a few times attributed to Sri Ramana which turned out to be wrong. Because this is a Sri Ramana list, it is critical that people not be careless in this regard. If this quote attributed to Sri Ramana has a specific source, I would appreciate your providing it. Thank you. Namaste and love to all Yours in Bhagavan Harsha @ . com [HarshaSatsa ngh ] On Behalf Of Harsha Friday, February 27, 2009 8:54 AM RE: to all concerned Dear Sandoshan, What is the source of this quote you gave by Sri Ramana. I would really appreciate knowing. Sorry if it was already given and I missed it. Namaste and love to all Yours in Bhagavan Harsha @ . com [HarshaSatsa ngh ] On Behalf Of andreas farsatis Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:30 AM AW: to all concerned Dear Michael sometimes I re-mind my self of Sri Ramanas words: " what would you be without the stories you tell about your self? " . In Peace through His Grace, Shandosham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Namaste dear Harsha, I hope I can satisfy your curiosity. The source of the statement is Sri Ganeshan, in his talk on 29.01.09. The context in which the statement was given, is about the innumerable layers of the mind, that has to be jumped over so that true spirituality can occure, in that sence the one who is on the top of the hill has no problem with the mind anymore, up the top of the hill everything appears so tiny and unimportant. As oppose to the one who is cought in the mind realm always busy with his own particular path, argueing with others about the effectiveness and the quality of the diverse paths that are suppose to lead to the top of the hill. All regards, Sandoshan --- Harsha schrieb am Mi, 4.3.2009: Von: Harsha Betreff: RE: to all concerned/Again requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri RamanaAn: Datum: Mittwoch, 4. März 2009, 3:31 Dear Santoshan, Thank you for your note. I am curious. You specifically quote Sri Ramana as saying, “" Only who is on the top of the hill has no problems". You put the statement in quotation marks and so I assume that you must know the source of it. I also would like to know the source and the context in which that comment was made. Thanks in advance. It is generally accepted protocol to provide the exact source when specifically quoting someone. Namaste and love Yours in Bhagavan Harsha [HarshaSatsa ngh ] On Behalf Of andreas farsatisTuesday, March 03, 2009 7:47 AMRE: to all concerned/Again requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri Ramana Dear Harsha, thank you for making your perspective clear, fortunately is my perspective not very different to yours. There is no need to apologize becouse as Sri Ramana said: " Only who is on the top of the hill has no problems". Yours in Baghavan, Santoshan --- Harsha <harsha@harshasatsan gh.com> schrieb am Mo, 2.3.2009: Von: Harsha <harsha@harshasatsan gh.com>Betreff: RE: to all concerned/Again requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri RamanaAn: Datum: Montag, 2. März 2009, 15:39 Dear Sandoshan, Thank you for clarifying. Attributing someone else’s words to Sri Ramana has happened before on this list. Whenever that happens (and if I see the message), I instantly sense something does not sound right. Even when Sri Ramana’s words have been translated into English from Tamil, there is a certain quality to them (for me). A child know his mother and rarely confuses her with another woman. A child knows how his mother acts, speaks, what she is likely to say in any given situation, and is intimate with the very presence of her being. That is how it is with me and the Bhagavan Ramana, the Sage of Arunachala. We had one time someone attribute a quote to Ramana when it was from Nisargadatta. At that time also, I asked for the source and it turned out it was indeed from Nisargadatta. The fact that I express my doubt frankly on these matters possibly creates some irritation. But please everyone should keep in mind that this list is devoted to Sri Ramana. In my view, it is simply basic courtesy to not be careless when suggesting that Sri Ramana said something. There are so many neo-advaita teachers now. Even every day pop psychologists like Dr. Phil in the U.S. have joined in and provide solutions to many problems. There is nothing wrong with that, of course. Probably, they help a lot of people who have need for their type of teaching and style. For Bhagavan’s devotees, however, things might be a little different. Without giving in to the glamour of the self-help gurus, neo advaita teachers, and charismatic psychologists, devotees should take care to keep their outlook pure in Bhagavan and the vision steady turned upon itself for Self-Realization. This sangha is devoted to the purest teachings as given by Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi. I apologize if I have hurt any feelings and hope you understand my perspective. Namaste and love to all Yours in Bhagavan Harsha [HarshaSatsa ngh ] On Behalf Of andreas farsatisMonday, March 02, 2009 8:34 AMRE: to all concerned/Again requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri Ramana Namaste, this particular quote was send to me years ago by a friend who lives in Australia. I just phoned him to make sure that its from Sri Ramana and his answer was "yes" but after a short research we found out that the quote has been stated by Byron Katie. Excuse the inaccuracy please and sorry for the late responce. Yours in Baghavan, Sandoshan --- Harsha <harsha@harshasatsan gh.com> schrieb am So, 1.3.2009: Von: Harsha <harsha@harshasatsan gh.com>Betreff: RE: to all concerned/Again requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri RamanaAn: Datum: Sonntag, 1. März 2009, 21:40 Hello Sandoshan, I am again asking you the source of this quote you attributed to Sri Ramana. In the past, we have had quotes a few times attributed to Sri Ramana which turned out to be wrong. Because this is a Sri Ramana list, it is critical that people not be careless in this regard. If this quote attributed to Sri Ramana has a specific source, I would appreciate your providing it. Thank you. Namaste and love to all Yours in Bhagavan Harsha [HarshaSatsa ngh ] On Behalf Of HarshaFriday, February 27, 2009 8:54 AMRE: to all concerned Dear Sandoshan, What is the source of this quote you gave by Sri Ramana. I would really appreciate knowing. Sorry if it was already given and I missed it. Namaste and love to all Yours in Bhagavan Harsha [HarshaSatsa ngh ] On Behalf Of andreas farsatisThursday, February 26, 2009 9:30 AMAW: to all concerned Dear Michael sometimes I re-mind my self of Sri Ramanas words:" what would you be without the stories you tell about your self?". 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Guest guest Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Dearest Sandhoshan, Thank you for your response. There are many sources that contain actual direct quotes of Sri Ramana that were taken down and written when he uttered them. Examples are “Talks with Ramana Maharshiâ€. “Day by Day with Bhagavanâ€. There are also recollection of devotees who spend 40, 50, or even 60 years with Bhagavan. There are also the Original Works of Bhagavan containing his own writing. Professor Krishnamurthy has been posting some of these. Those are the first rate sources of Bhagavan’s teachings and his words. Many of the works like the “Talksâ€, etc. were actually shown to Bhagavan and received his approval as being authentic prior to being published. Bhagavan has a certainly quality in his words that is unmistakable. It is all right to paraphrase Bhagavan but it should be made clear that it is a paraphrase and not a direct quote. For example, if I do not have a source at hand, I will say, “As I recall Bhagavan said……†So, you can say, “As I recall Sri Ganesan said that Bhagavan once pointed out something like ……one on the top of the hill has no problems, etc.†If you read the original works of Bhagavan and recollection by devotees and the “Talks†and “Day by Day†you will become intimate with Bhagavan’s teachings. Namaste and love Yours in Bhagavan Harsha On Behalf Of andreas farsatis Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:37 AM RE: to all concerned/Again requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri Ramana Namaste dear Harsha, I hope I can satisfy your curiosity. The source of the statement is Sri Ganeshan, in his talk on 29.01.09. The context in which the statement was given, is about the innumerable layers of the mind, that has to be jumped over so that true spirituality can occure, in that sence the one who is on the top of the hill has no problem with the mind anymore, up the top of the hill everything appears so tiny and unimportant. As oppose to the one who is cought in the mind realm always busy with his own particular path, argueing with others about the effectiveness and the quality of the diverse paths that are suppose to lead to the top of the hill. All regards, Sandoshan --- Harsha schrieb am Mi, 4.3.2009: Von: Harsha Betreff: RE: to all concerned/Again requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri Ramana An: Datum: Mittwoch, 4. März 2009, 3:31 Dear Santoshan, Thank you for your note. I am curious. You specifically quote Sri Ramana as saying, “ " Only who is on the top of the hill has no problems " . You put the statement in quotation marks and so I assume that you must know the source of it. I also would like to know the source and the context in which that comment was made. Thanks in advance. It is generally accepted protocol to provide the exact source when specifically quoting someone. Namaste and love Yours in Bhagavan Harsha [HarshaSatsa ngh ] On Behalf Of andreas farsatis Tuesday, March 03, 2009 7:47 AM RE: to all concerned/Again requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri Ramana Dear Harsha, thank you for making your perspective clear, fortunately is my perspective not very different to yours. There is no need to apologize becouse as Sri Ramana said: " Only who is on the top of the hill has no problems " . Yours in Baghavan, Santoshan --- Harsha <harsha@harshasatsan gh.com> schrieb am Mo, 2.3.2009: Von: Harsha <harsha@harshasatsan gh.com> Betreff: RE: to all concerned/Again requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri Ramana An: Datum: Montag, 2. März 2009, 15:39 Dear Sandoshan, Thank you for clarifying. Attributing someone else’s words to Sri Ramana has happened before on this list. Whenever that happens (and if I see the message), I instantly sense something does not sound right. Even when Sri Ramana’s words have been translated into English from Tamil, there is a certain quality to them (for me). A child know his mother and rarely confuses her with another woman. A child knows how his mother acts, speaks, what she is likely to say in any given situation, and is intimate with the very presence of her being. That is how it is with me and the Bhagavan Ramana, the Sage of Arunachala. We had one time someone attribute a quote to Ramana when it was from Nisargadatta. At that time also, I asked for the source and it turned out it was indeed from Nisargadatta. The fact that I express my doubt frankly on these matters possibly creates some irritation. But please everyone should keep in mind that this list is devoted to Sri Ramana. In my view, it is simply basic courtesy to not be careless when suggesting that Sri Ramana said something. There are so many neo-advaita teachers now. Even every day pop psychologists like Dr. Phil in the U.S. have joined in and provide solutions to many problems. There is nothing wrong with that, of course. Probably, they help a lot of people who have need for their type of teaching and style. For Bhagavan’s devotees, however, things might be a little different. Without giving in to the glamour of the self-help gurus, neo advaita teachers, and charismatic psychologists, devotees should take care to keep their outlook pure in Bhagavan and the vision steady turned upon itself for Self-Realization. This sangha is devoted to the purest teachings as given by Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi. I apologize if I have hurt any feelings and hope you understand my perspective. Namaste and love to all Yours in Bhagavan Harsha @ . com [HarshaSatsa ngh ] On Behalf Of andreas farsatis Monday, March 02, 2009 8:34 AM RE: to all concerned/Again requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri Ramana Namaste, this particular quote was send to me years ago by a friend who lives in Australia. I just phoned him to make sure that its from Sri Ramana and his answer was " yes " but after a short research we found out that the quote has been stated by Byron Katie. Excuse the inaccuracy please and sorry for the late responce. Yours in Baghavan, Sandoshan --- Harsha <harsha@harshasatsan gh.com> schrieb am So, 1.3.2009: Von: Harsha <harsha@harshasatsan gh.com> Betreff: RE: to all concerned/Again requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri Ramana An: Datum: Sonntag, 1. März 2009, 21:40 Hello Sandoshan, I am again asking you the source of this quote you attributed to Sri Ramana. In the past, we have had quotes a few times attributed to Sri Ramana which turned out to be wrong. Because this is a Sri Ramana list, it is critical that people not be careless in this regard. If this quote attributed to Sri Ramana has a specific source, I would appreciate your providing it. Thank you. Namaste and love to all Yours in Bhagavan Harsha [HarshaSatsa ngh (AT) (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Harsha Friday, February 27, 2009 8:54 AM RE: to all concerned Dear Sandoshan, What is the source of this quote you gave by Sri Ramana. I would really appreciate knowing. Sorry if it was already given and I missed it. Namaste and love to all Yours in Bhagavan Harsha [HarshaSatsa ngh (AT) (DOT) com] On Behalf Of andreas farsatis Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:30 AM AW: to all concerned Dear Michael sometimes I re-mind my self of Sri Ramanas words: " what would you be without the stories you tell about your self? " . 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