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Hello Sandoshan,

 

I am again asking you the source of this quote you attributed to

Sri Ramana. In the past, we have had quotes a few times attributed to Sri

Ramana which turned out to be wrong.

 

Because this is a Sri Ramana list, it is critical that people

not be careless in this regard. If this quote attributed to Sri Ramana has a

specific source, I would appreciate your providing it.

 

Thank you.

 

Namaste and love to all

 

Yours in Bhagavan

Harsha

 

 

 

 

On

Behalf Of Harsha

Friday, February 27, 2009 8:54 AM

 

RE: to all concerned

 

 

 

Dear Sandoshan,

 

What is the source of this quote you gave by Sri Ramana. I would

really appreciate knowing. Sorry if it was already given and I missed it.

 

Namaste and love to all

 

Yours in Bhagavan

Harsha

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of andreas farsatis

Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:30 AM

 

AW: to all concerned

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Michael sometimes I re-mind my self

 

 

of Sri Ramanas words: " what would you be without the

stories

 

 

you tell about your self? " .

 

 

 

 

 

In Peace through His Grace,

 

 

 

 

 

Shandosham

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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It's a Byron Katie quote,

and the baic foundational

question on which her

paradigm " The Work " is built.

 

Jeff

 

PS: Don't know is Ramana

said it, as well.

 

 

 

, " Harsha " wrote:

>

> Hello Sandoshan,

>

>

>

> I am again asking you the source of this quote you attributed to Sri

Ramana.

> In the past, we have had quotes a few times attributed to Sri Ramana

which

> turned out to be wrong.

>

>

>

> Because this is a Sri Ramana list, it is critical that people not be

> careless in this regard. If this quote attributed to Sri Ramana has a

> specific source, I would appreciate your providing it.

>

>

>

> Thank you.

>

>

>

> Namaste and love to all

>

>

>

> Yours in Bhagavan

>

> Harsha

>

>

>

>

 

> On Behalf Of Harsha

> Friday, February 27, 2009 8:54 AM

>

> RE: to all concerned

>

>

>

> Dear Sandoshan,

>

>

>

> What is the source of this quote you gave by Sri Ramana. I would really

> appreciate knowing. Sorry if it was already given and I missed it.

>

>

>

> Namaste and love to all

>

>

>

> Yours in Bhagavan

>

> Harsha

>

>

>

>

 

> On Behalf Of andreas farsatis

> Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:30 AM

>

> AW: to all concerned

Dear Michael sometimes I re-mind my self

>

> of Sri Ramanas words: " what would you be without the stories

>

> you tell about your self? " .

>

>

>

> In Peace through His Grace,

>

>

>

> Shandosham

>

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Thank you Jeff. I don't know Byron Katie.

 

What Sandoshan provided did not appear to me to be a Ramana quote. That is

why I asked for a source. I would be surprised if it turns out to be a

Ramana quote.

 

Sri Ramana did not speak like that.

 

We will wait for Sandoshan to respond and provide a source, if there is one,

of the quote that was attributed to Sri Ramana.

 

This has happened before where someone says something that is claimed to

have been uttered by Sri Ramana. Some devotees upon hearing it start to nod

their heads saying how insightful and brilliant it is, etc.

 

Honestly, I don't know whether to laugh or cry when that happens.

 

We will wait to hear from Sandoshan and give the opportunity for correction.

 

Namaste and love

 

Yours in Bhagavan

Harsha

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Jeff Belyea

Sunday, March 01, 2009 4:56 PM

 

Re: to all concerned/Again

requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri Ramana

 

It's a Byron Katie quote,

and the baic foundational

question on which her

paradigm " The Work " is built.

 

Jeff

 

PS: Don't know is Ramana

said it, as well.

 

 

 

, " Harsha " wrote:

>

> Hello Sandoshan,

>

>

>

> I am again asking you the source of this quote you attributed to Sri

Ramana.

> In the past, we have had quotes a few times attributed to Sri Ramana

which

> turned out to be wrong.

>

>

>

> Because this is a Sri Ramana list, it is critical that people not be

> careless in this regard. If this quote attributed to Sri Ramana has a

> specific source, I would appreciate your providing it.

>

>

>

> Thank you.

>

>

>

> Namaste and love to all

>

>

>

> Yours in Bhagavan

>

> Harsha

>

>

>

>

 

> On Behalf Of Harsha

> Friday, February 27, 2009 8:54 AM

>

> RE: to all concerned

>

>

>

> Dear Sandoshan,

>

>

>

> What is the source of this quote you gave by Sri Ramana. I would really

> appreciate knowing. Sorry if it was already given and I missed it.

>

>

>

> Namaste and love to all

>

>

>

> Yours in Bhagavan

>

> Harsha

>

>

>

>

 

> On Behalf Of andreas farsatis

> Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:30 AM

>

> AW: to all concerned

Dear Michael sometimes I re-mind my self

>

> of Sri Ramanas words: " what would you be without the stories

>

> you tell about your self? " .

>

>

>

> In Peace through His Grace,

>

>

>

> Shandosham

>

 

 

 

 

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Dear Harsha and all others

 

regarding this quote i have to admit that its really great

because "in the end" our personal story is "just" ego

of course it can lead us to lift the curtain of no-knowledge....

 

but to understand this it nees maturity in all instances

the most of it

 

putting inner knowledge into daily life

 

i was really happy having read Sandoshans message, which was intended for me and was indeed HELP at the right moment

thanks to Grace

 

regarding "Byron Katie"

 

dear Harsha

 

like i told you years ago i agree with your stated message that you "stick" to our Sadguru and that - without judging at all - the neoadvaitins like Byron Katie are "not in the same categorie" (my words)

 

what i feel:

 

when you found your TRUTH stick to it and live it moment to moment

"nothing else" is necessary

 

 

light and love to all of us

 

in Sri Ramana Maharshi

 

michael

 

-

Harsha

Monday, March 02, 2009 12:01 AM

RE: to all concerned/Again requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri Ramana

 

 

Thank you Jeff. I don't know Byron Katie.What Sandoshan provided did not appear to me to be a Ramana quote. That iswhy I asked for a source. I would be surprised if it turns out to be aRamana quote.Sri Ramana did not speak like that. We will wait for Sandoshan to respond and provide a source, if there is one,of the quote that was attributed to Sri Ramana. This has happened before where someone says something that is claimed tohave been uttered by Sri Ramana. Some devotees upon hearing it start to nodtheir heads saying how insightful and brilliant it is, etc.Honestly, I don't know whether to laugh or cry when that happens. We will wait to hear from Sandoshan and give the opportunity for correction.Namaste and loveYours in BhagavanHarsha On Behalf Of Jeff BelyeaSunday, March 01, 2009 4:56 PM Subject: Re: to all concerned/Againrequesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri RamanaIt's a Byron Katie quote,and the baic foundationalquestion on which herparadigm "The Work" is built.JeffPS: Don't know is Ramanasaid it, as well. , "Harsha" wrote:>> Hello Sandoshan,> > > > I am again asking you the source of this quote you attributed to SriRamana.> In the past, we have had quotes a few times attributed to Sri Ramanawhich> turned out to be wrong.> > > > Because this is a Sri Ramana list, it is critical that people not be> careless in this regard. If this quote attributed to Sri Ramana has a> specific source, I would appreciate your providing it.> > > > Thank you.> > > > Namaste and love to all> > > > Yours in Bhagavan> > Harsha> > > > [ ]> On Behalf Of Harsha> Friday, February 27, 2009 8:54 AM> > RE: to all concerned> > > > Dear Sandoshan,> > > > What is the source of this quote you gave by Sri Ramana. I would really> appreciate knowing. Sorry if it was already given and I missed it.> > > > Namaste and love to all> > > > Yours in Bhagavan> > Harsha> > > > [ ]> On Behalf Of andreas farsatis> Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:30 AM> > AW: to all concerned> > > > > > > Dear Michael sometimes I re-mind my self> > of Sri Ramanas words:" what would you be without the stories> > you tell about your self?".> > > > In Peace through His Grace,> > > > Shandosham>--- is supported by . New articles are addedthere on a continuous basis. Please register at . You willbe kept updated and get the new articles which are posted on the site verynicely formatted in your e-mail.Friends, after registering at , if you wish to contributeyour writing to the site, please let me know. Your articles should beoriginal, well written, using subtitles, and be carefully proofread andpolished. For a list of topics considered, please go to and take a look at the site. Thanks. Namaste and love to allHarsha

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Namaste,

 

this particular quote was send to me years ago by a friend who lives in Australia.

I just phoned him to make sure that its from Sri Ramana and his

answer was "yes" but after a short research we found out that

the quote has been stated by Byron Katie.

 

Excuse the inaccuracy please and sorry for the late responce.

 

Yours in Baghavan,

 

Sandoshan

 

 

--- Harsha schrieb am So, 1.3.2009:

Von: Harsha Betreff: RE: to all concerned/Again requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri RamanaAn: Datum: Sonntag, 1. März 2009, 21:40

 

 

 

 

Hello Sandoshan,

 

I am again asking you the source of this quote you attributed to Sri Ramana. In the past, we have had quotes a few times attributed to Sri Ramana which turned out to be wrong.

 

Because this is a Sri Ramana list, it is critical that people not be careless in this regard. If this quote attributed to Sri Ramana has a specific source, I would appreciate your providing it.

 

Thank you.

 

Namaste and love to all

 

Yours in Bhagavan

Harsha

 

 

 

[HarshaSatsa ngh ] On Behalf Of HarshaFriday, February 27, 2009 8:54 AMRE: to all concerned

 

Dear Sandoshan,

 

What is the source of this quote you gave by Sri Ramana. I would really appreciate knowing. Sorry if it was already given and I missed it.

 

Namaste and love to all

 

Yours in Bhagavan

Harsha

 

 

 

[HarshaSatsa ngh ] On Behalf Of andreas farsatisThursday, February 26, 2009 9:30 AMAW: to all concerned

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Michael sometimes I re-mind my self

 

of Sri Ramanas words:" what would you be without the stories

 

you tell about your self?".

 

 

 

In Peace through His Grace,

 

 

 

Shandosham

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Sandoshan,

 

Thank you for clarifying. Attributing someone else’s words

to Sri Ramana has happened before on this list. Whenever that happens (and if I

see the message), I instantly sense something does not sound right.  Even when Sri

Ramana’s words have been translated into English from Tamil, there is a

certain quality to them (for me).

 

A child know his mother and rarely confuses her with another

woman. A child knows how his mother acts, speaks, what she is likely to say in

any given situation, and is intimate with the very presence of her being. That

is how it is with me and the Bhagavan Ramana, the Sage of Arunachala.

 

We had one time someone attribute a quote to Ramana when it was

from Nisargadatta. At that time also, I asked for the source and it turned out

it was indeed from Nisargadatta. The fact that I express my doubt frankly on

these matters possibly creates some irritation.

 

But please everyone should keep in mind that this list is

devoted to Sri Ramana. In my view, it is simply basic courtesy to not be

careless when suggesting that Sri Ramana said something.

 

There are so many neo-advaita teachers now. Even every day pop

psychologists like Dr. Phil in the U.S. have joined in and provide solutions to

many problems. There is nothing wrong with that, of course.  Probably, they

help a lot of people who have need for their type of teaching and style.

 

For Bhagavan’s devotees, however, things might be a little

different.

 

Without giving in to the glamour of the self-help gurus, neo

advaita teachers, and charismatic psychologists, devotees should take care to

keep their outlook pure in Bhagavan and the vision steady turned upon itself

for Self-Realization.

 

This sangha is devoted to the purest teachings as given by Sri Bhagavan

Ramana Maharshi.

 

I apologize if I have hurt any feelings and hope you understand

my perspective.

 

Namaste and love to all

 

Yours in Bhagavan

Harsha

 

 

 

On Behalf Of andreas farsatis

Monday, March 02, 2009 8:34 AM

 

RE: to all concerned/Again

requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri Ramana

 

 

 

 

 

 

Namaste,

 

 

 

 

 

this particular quote was send to me years ago by a

friend who lives in Australia.

 

 

I just phoned him to make sure that its from Sri Ramana

and his

 

 

answer was " yes " but after a short research we

found out that

 

 

the quote has been stated by Byron Katie.

 

 

 

 

 

Excuse the inaccuracy please and sorry for the

late responce.

 

 

 

 

 

Yours in Baghavan,

 

 

 

 

 

Sandoshan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- Harsha schrieb am So,

1.3.2009:

 

 

Von: Harsha

 

Betreff: RE: to all concerned/Again requesting

the source of the quote attributed to Sri Ramana

An:

Datum: Sonntag, 1. März 2009, 21:40

 

 

 

 

Hello Sandoshan,

 

 

 

I am again asking you the source of

this quote you attributed to Sri Ramana. In the past, we have had quotes a

few times attributed to Sri Ramana which turned out to be wrong.

 

 

 

Because this is a Sri Ramana list, it

is critical that people not be careless in this regard. If this quote

attributed to Sri Ramana has a specific source, I would appreciate your

providing it.

 

 

Thank you.

 

Namaste and love to all

 

Yours in Bhagavan

Harsha

 

 

 

 

[HarshaSatsa ngh ] On Behalf Of Harsha

Friday, February 27, 2009 8:54 AM

 

RE: to all concerned

 

 

 

Dear Sandoshan,

 

What is the source of this quote you

gave by Sri Ramana. I would really appreciate knowing. Sorry if it was

already given and I missed it.

 

Namaste and love to all

 

Yours in Bhagavan

Harsha

 

 

 

 

[HarshaSatsa ngh ] On Behalf Of andreas farsatis

Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:30 AM

 

AW: to all concerned

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Michael sometimes I re-mind my self

 

 

of Sri Ramanas words: " what would you be without the stories

 

 

you tell about your self? " .

 

 

 

 

 

In Peace through His Grace,

 

 

 

 

 

Shandosham

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Harsha wrote:

>

> Dear Sandoshan,

>

> Thank you for clarifying. Attributing someone else’s words to Sri

> Ramana has happened before on this list. Whenever that happens (and if

> I see the message), I instantly sense something does not sound right.

> Even when Sri Ramana’s words have been translated into English from

> Tamil, there is a certain quality to them (for me).

>

> A child know his mother and rarely confuses her with another woman. A

> child knows how his mother acts, speaks, what she is likely to say in

> any given situation, and is intimate with the very presence of her

> being. That is how it is with me and the Bhagavan Ramana, the Sage of

> Arunachala.

>

> We had one time someone attribute a quote to Ramana when it was from

> Nisargadatta. At that time also, I asked for the source and it turned

> out it was indeed from Nisargadatta. The fact that I express my doubt

> frankly on these matters possibly creates some irritation.

>

> But please everyone should keep in mind that this list is devoted to

> Sri Ramana. In my view, it is simply basic courtesy to not be careless

> when suggesting that Sri Ramana said something.

>

> There are so many neo-advaita teachers now. Even every day pop

> psychologists like Dr. Phil in the U.S. have joined in and provide

> solutions to many problems. There is nothing wrong with that, of

> course. Probably, they help a lot of people who have need for their

> type of teaching and style.

>

> For Bhagavan’s devotees, however, things might be a little different.

>

> Without giving in to the glamour of the self-help gurus, neo advaita

> teachers, and charismatic psychologists, devotees should take care to

> keep their outlook pure in Bhagavan and the vision steady turned upon

> itself for Self-Realization.

>

> This sangha is devoted to the purest teachings as given by Sri

> Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi.

>

> I apologize if I have hurt any feelings and hope you understand my

> perspective.

>

> Namaste and love to all

>

> Yours in Bhagavan

>

> Harsha

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:) thank you, hashaji. indeed, ramana's words has certain imperceptible,

yet unmistakable, and instantly recognizable quality. according to rumi:

" a false coin is a proof that real gold exist " . beloved ramana is pure

gold,

and we are extremely lucky...

thank you too, sandosham, for acting as befits member of bhagawan's family.

 

jai jai ramana,

who by mere mention of his name,

conveys his grace

forming this company of friends

jai ramana,

whose mere remembrance

elicits the purest and noblest in us

paving the road

to our very own

one and only

self

which we never

left.

 

 

@}->,->'--

gratefully,

yosy

 

 

 

> **

> *On Behalf Of *andreas farsatis

> *Sent:* Monday, March 02, 2009 8:34 AM

> *To:*

> *Subject:* RE: to all concerned/Again

> requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri Ramana

>

> Namaste,

>

> this particular quote was send to me years ago by a friend who lives

> in Australia.

>

> I just phoned him to make sure that its from Sri Ramana and his

>

> answer was " yes " but after a short research we found out that

>

> the quote has been stated by Byron Katie.

>

> Excuse the inaccuracy please and sorry for the late responce.

>

> Yours in Baghavan,

>

> Sandoshan

>

>

>

> --- Harsha // schrieb am *So, 1.3.2009:*

>

> *Von: Harsha

> Betreff: RE: to all concerned/Again

> requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri Ramana

> An:

> Datum: Sonntag, 1. März 2009, 21:40*

>

> *Hello Sandoshan,*

>

> * *

>

> *I am again asking you the source of this quote you attributed to

> Sri Ramana. In the past, we have had quotes a few times attributed

> to Sri Ramana which turned out to be wrong.*

>

> * *

>

> *Because this is a Sri Ramana list, it is critical that people not

> be careless in this regard. If this quote attributed to Sri Ramana

> has a specific source, I would appreciate your providing it.*

>

> * *

>

> *Thank you.*

>

> * *

>

> *Namaste and love to all*

>

> * *

>

> *Yours in Bhagavan*

>

> *Harsha*

>

> * *

>

> * [HarshaSatsa

> ngh ] On Behalf Of Harsha

> Friday, February 27, 2009 8:54 AM

>

> RE: to all concerned*

>

> * *

>

> *Dear Sandoshan,*

>

> * *

>

> *What is the source of this quote you gave by Sri Ramana. I would

> really appreciate knowing. Sorry if it was already given and I missed it.*

>

> * *

>

> *Namaste and love to all*

>

> * *

>

> *Yours in Bhagavan*

>

> *Harsha*

>

> * *

>

> * [HarshaSatsa

> ngh ] On Behalf Of andreas farsatis

> Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:30 AM

>

> AW: to all concerned*

>

> * *

>

> Dear Michael sometimes I re-mind my self

>

> of Sri Ramanas words: " what would you be without the stories

>

> you tell about your self? " .

>

> In Peace through His Grace,

>

> Shandosham

>

> * *

>

>

>

>

>

> __._,_.__

>

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Dear Harsha,

 

thank you for making your perspective clear,

fortunately is my perspective not very

different to yours.

 

There is no need to apologize becouse as

Sri Ramana said: " Only who is on the top

of the hill has no problems".

 

Yours in Baghavan,

 

Santoshan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- Harsha schrieb am Mo, 2.3.2009:

Von: Harsha Betreff: RE: to all concerned/Again requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri RamanaAn: Datum: Montag, 2. März 2009, 15:39

 

 

 

 

Dear Sandoshan,

 

Thank you for clarifying. Attributing someone else’s words to Sri Ramana has happened before on this list. Whenever that happens (and if I see the message), I instantly sense something does not sound right. Even when Sri Ramana’s words have been translated into English from Tamil, there is a certain quality to them (for me).

 

A child know his mother and rarely confuses her with another woman. A child knows how his mother acts, speaks, what she is likely to say in any given situation, and is intimate with the very presence of her being. That is how it is with me and the Bhagavan Ramana, the Sage of Arunachala.

 

We had one time someone attribute a quote to Ramana when it was from Nisargadatta. At that time also, I asked for the source and it turned out it was indeed from Nisargadatta. The fact that I express my doubt frankly on these matters possibly creates some irritation.

 

But please everyone should keep in mind that this list is devoted to Sri Ramana. In my view, it is simply basic courtesy to not be careless when suggesting that Sri Ramana said something.

 

There are so many neo-advaita teachers now. Even every day pop psychologists like Dr. Phil in the U.S. have joined in and provide solutions to many problems. There is nothing wrong with that, of course. Probably, they help a lot of people who have need for their type of teaching and style.

 

For Bhagavan’s devotees, however, things might be a little different.

 

Without giving in to the glamour of the self-help gurus, neo advaita teachers, and charismatic psychologists, devotees should take care to keep their outlook pure in Bhagavan and the vision steady turned upon itself for Self-Realization.

 

This sangha is devoted to the purest teachings as given by Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi.

 

I apologize if I have hurt any feelings and hope you understand my perspective.

 

Namaste and love to all

 

Yours in Bhagavan

Harsha

 

 

[HarshaSatsa ngh ] On Behalf Of andreas farsatisMonday, March 02, 2009 8:34 AMRE: to all concerned/Again requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri Ramana

 

 

 

 

 

 

Namaste,

 

 

 

this particular quote was send to me years ago by a friend who lives in Australia.

 

I just phoned him to make sure that its from Sri Ramana and his

 

answer was "yes" but after a short research we found out that

 

the quote has been stated by Byron Katie.

 

 

 

Excuse the inaccuracy please and sorry for the late responce.

 

 

 

Yours in Baghavan,

 

 

 

Sandoshan

 

 

 

 

 

--- Harsha <harsha@harshasatsan gh.com> schrieb am So, 1.3.2009:

 

Von: Harsha <harsha@harshasatsan gh.com>Betreff: RE: to all concerned/Again requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri RamanaAn: Datum: Sonntag, 1. März 2009, 21:40

 

 

 

 

Hello Sandoshan,

 

I am again asking you the source of this quote you attributed to Sri Ramana. In the past, we have had quotes a few times attributed to Sri Ramana which turned out to be wrong.

 

Because this is a Sri Ramana list, it is critical that people not be careless in this regard. If this quote attributed to Sri Ramana has a specific source, I would appreciate your providing it.

 

Thank you.

 

Namaste and love to all

 

Yours in Bhagavan

Harsha

 

 

 

[HarshaSatsa ngh ] On Behalf Of HarshaFriday, February 27, 2009 8:54 AMRE: to all concerned

 

Dear Sandoshan,

 

What is the source of this quote you gave by Sri Ramana. I would really appreciate knowing. Sorry if it was already given and I missed it.

 

Namaste and love to all

 

Yours in Bhagavan

Harsha

 

 

 

[HarshaSatsa ngh ] On Behalf Of andreas farsatisThursday, February 26, 2009 9:30 AMAW: to all concerned

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Michael sometimes I re-mind my self

 

of Sri Ramanas words:" what would you be without the stories

 

you tell about your self?".

 

 

 

In Peace through His Grace,

 

 

 

Shandosham

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Santoshan,

 

Thank you for your note. I am curious.

 

You specifically quote Sri Ramana as saying, “ " Only who is on the top

of the hill has no

problems " .

 

You put the statement in quotation marks and so I assume that

you must know the source of it. I also would like to know the source and the

context in which that comment was made. Thanks in advance.

 

It is generally accepted protocol to provide the exact

source when specifically quoting someone.

 

Namaste and love

 

Yours in Bhagavan

Harsha

 

 

 

 

On

Behalf Of andreas farsatis

Tuesday, March 03, 2009 7:47 AM

 

RE: to all concerned/Again

requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri Ramana

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Harsha,

 

 

 

 

 

thank you for making

your perspective clear,

 

 

fortunately is my

perspective not very

 

 

different to yours.

 

 

 

 

 

There is no need to

apologize becouse as

 

 

Sri Ramana said:

" Only who is on the top

 

 

of the hill has no

problems " .

 

 

 

 

 

Yours in Baghavan,

 

 

 

 

 

Santoshan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- Harsha schrieb am Mo,

2.3.2009:

 

 

Von: Harsha

 

Betreff: RE: to all concerned/Again requesting

the source of the quote attributed to Sri Ramana

An:

Datum: Montag, 2. März 2009, 15:39

 

 

 

 

Dear Sandoshan,

 

 

 

Thank you for clarifying. Attributing

someone else’s words to Sri Ramana has happened before on this list. Whenever

that happens (and if I see the message), I instantly sense something does not

sound right. Even when Sri Ramana’s words have been translated into

English from Tamil, there is a certain quality to them (for me).

 

 

 

A child know his mother and rarely

confuses her with another woman. A child knows how his mother acts, speaks,

what she is likely to say in any given situation, and is intimate with the

very presence of her being. That is how it is with me and the Bhagavan

Ramana, the Sage of Arunachala.

 

 

We had one time someone attribute a

quote to Ramana when it was from Nisargadatta. At that time also, I asked for

the source and it turned out it was indeed from Nisargadatta. The fact that I

express my doubt frankly on these matters possibly creates some irritation.

 

But please everyone should keep in

mind that this list is devoted to Sri Ramana. In my view, it is simply basic

courtesy to not be careless when suggesting that Sri Ramana said something.

 

There are so many neo-advaita teachers

now. Even every day pop psychologists like Dr. Phil in the U.S. have joined

in and provide solutions to many problems. There is nothing wrong with that,

of course. Probably, they help a lot of people who have need for their

type of teaching and style.

 

For Bhagavan’s devotees, however,

things might be a little different.

 

Without giving in to the glamour of

the self-help gurus, neo advaita teachers, and charismatic psychologists,

devotees should take care to keep their outlook pure in Bhagavan and the

vision steady turned upon itself for Self-Realization.

 

This sangha is devoted to the purest

teachings as given by Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi.

 

I apologize if I have hurt any

feelings and hope you understand my perspective.

 

Namaste and love to all

 

Yours in Bhagavan

Harsha

 

 

 

[HarshaSatsa ngh ] On Behalf Of andreas farsatis

Monday, March 02, 2009 8:34 AM

 

RE: to all concerned/Again requesting

the source of the quote attributed to Sri Ramana

 

 

 

 

 

 

Namaste,

 

 

 

 

 

this particular quote was send to me years ago by a friend who

lives in Australia.

 

 

I just phoned him to make sure that its from Sri Ramana and his

 

 

answer was " yes " but after a short research we found out

that

 

 

the quote has been stated by Byron Katie.

 

 

 

 

 

Excuse the inaccuracy please and sorry for the late

responce.

 

 

 

 

 

Yours in Baghavan,

 

 

 

 

 

Sandoshan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- Harsha <harsha@harshasatsan gh.com> schrieb am So,

1.3.2009:

 

 

Von: Harsha <harsha@harshasatsan gh.com>

Betreff: RE: to all concerned/Again

requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri Ramana

An:

Datum: Sonntag, 1. März 2009, 21:40

 

 

 

 

 

Hello Sandoshan,

 

 

 

 

 

I am again asking you

the source of this quote you attributed to Sri Ramana. In the past, we have

had quotes a few times attributed to Sri Ramana which turned out to be

wrong.

 

Because this is a Sri

Ramana list, it is critical that people not be careless in this regard. If

this quote attributed to Sri Ramana has a specific source, I would appreciate

your providing it.

 

Thank you.

 

Namaste and love to

all

 

Yours in Bhagavan

Harsha

 

 

 

@

. com [HarshaSatsa ngh ] On Behalf Of

Harsha

Friday, February 27, 2009 8:54 AM

 

RE: to all concerned

 

 

 

Dear Sandoshan,

 

What is the source of

this quote you gave by Sri Ramana. I would really appreciate knowing. Sorry

if it was already given and I missed it.

 

Namaste and love to

all

 

Yours in Bhagavan

Harsha

 

 

 

@

. com [HarshaSatsa ngh ] On Behalf Of

andreas farsatis

Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:30 AM

 

AW: to all concerned

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Michael sometimes I re-mind my self

 

 

of Sri Ramanas words: " what would you be without the stories

 

 

you tell about your self? " .

 

 

 

 

 

In Peace through His Grace,

 

 

 

 

 

Shandosham

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Namaste dear Harsha,

 

I hope I can satisfy your curiosity.

 

The source of the statement is Sri Ganeshan,

in his talk on 29.01.09.

 

The context in which the statement was given, is about

the innumerable layers of the mind, that has to be

jumped over so that true spirituality can occure,

in that sence the one who is on the top of the hill

has no problem with the mind anymore,

up the top of the hill everything appears so tiny

and unimportant.

As oppose to the one who is cought in the mind realm

always busy with his own particular path, argueing

with others about the effectiveness and the quality of

the diverse paths that are suppose to lead to the top of the hill.

 

All regards,

 

Sandoshan

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- Harsha schrieb am Mi, 4.3.2009:

Von: Harsha Betreff: RE: to all concerned/Again requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri RamanaAn: Datum: Mittwoch, 4. März 2009, 3:31

 

 

 

 

Dear Santoshan,

 

Thank you for your note. I am curious.

 

You specifically quote Sri Ramana as saying, “" Only who is on the top

of the hill has no problems".

 

You put the statement in quotation marks and so I assume that you must know the source of it. I also would like to know the source and the context in which that comment was made. Thanks in advance.

 

It is generally accepted protocol to provide the exact source when specifically quoting someone.

 

Namaste and love

 

Yours in Bhagavan

Harsha

 

 

[HarshaSatsa ngh ] On Behalf Of andreas farsatisTuesday, March 03, 2009 7:47 AMRE: to all concerned/Again requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri Ramana

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Harsha,

 

 

 

thank you for making your perspective clear,

 

fortunately is my perspective not very

 

different to yours.

 

 

 

There is no need to apologize becouse as

 

Sri Ramana said: " Only who is on the top

 

of the hill has no problems".

 

 

 

Yours in Baghavan,

 

 

 

Santoshan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- Harsha <harsha@harshasatsan gh.com> schrieb am Mo, 2.3.2009:

 

Von: Harsha <harsha@harshasatsan gh.com>Betreff: RE: to all concerned/Again requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri RamanaAn: Datum: Montag, 2. März 2009, 15:39

 

 

 

 

Dear Sandoshan,

 

Thank you for clarifying. Attributing someone else’s words to Sri Ramana has happened before on this list. Whenever that happens (and if I see the message), I instantly sense something does not sound right. Even when Sri Ramana’s words have been translated into English from Tamil, there is a certain quality to them (for me).

 

A child know his mother and rarely confuses her with another woman. A child knows how his mother acts, speaks, what she is likely to say in any given situation, and is intimate with the very presence of her being. That is how it is with me and the Bhagavan Ramana, the Sage of Arunachala.

 

We had one time someone attribute a quote to Ramana when it was from Nisargadatta. At that time also, I asked for the source and it turned out it was indeed from Nisargadatta. The fact that I express my doubt frankly on these matters possibly creates some irritation.

 

But please everyone should keep in mind that this list is devoted to Sri Ramana. In my view, it is simply basic courtesy to not be careless when suggesting that Sri Ramana said something.

 

There are so many neo-advaita teachers now. Even every day pop psychologists like Dr. Phil in the U.S. have joined in and provide solutions to many problems. There is nothing wrong with that, of course. Probably, they help a lot of people who have need for their type of teaching and style.

 

For Bhagavan’s devotees, however, things might be a little different.

 

Without giving in to the glamour of the self-help gurus, neo advaita teachers, and charismatic psychologists, devotees should take care to keep their outlook pure in Bhagavan and the vision steady turned upon itself for Self-Realization.

 

This sangha is devoted to the purest teachings as given by Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi.

 

I apologize if I have hurt any feelings and hope you understand my perspective.

 

Namaste and love to all

 

Yours in Bhagavan

Harsha

 

 

[HarshaSatsa ngh ] On Behalf Of andreas farsatisMonday, March 02, 2009 8:34 AMRE: to all concerned/Again requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri Ramana

 

 

 

 

 

 

Namaste,

 

 

 

this particular quote was send to me years ago by a friend who lives in Australia.

 

I just phoned him to make sure that its from Sri Ramana and his

 

answer was "yes" but after a short research we found out that

 

the quote has been stated by Byron Katie.

 

 

 

Excuse the inaccuracy please and sorry for the late responce.

 

 

 

Yours in Baghavan,

 

 

 

Sandoshan

 

 

 

 

 

--- Harsha <harsha@harshasatsan gh.com> schrieb am So, 1.3.2009:

 

Von: Harsha <harsha@harshasatsan gh.com>Betreff: RE: to all concerned/Again requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri RamanaAn: Datum: Sonntag, 1. März 2009, 21:40

 

 

 

 

Hello Sandoshan,

 

I am again asking you the source of this quote you attributed to Sri Ramana. In the past, we have had quotes a few times attributed to Sri Ramana which turned out to be wrong.

 

Because this is a Sri Ramana list, it is critical that people not be careless in this regard. If this quote attributed to Sri Ramana has a specific source, I would appreciate your providing it.

 

Thank you.

 

Namaste and love to all

 

Yours in Bhagavan

Harsha

 

 

 

[HarshaSatsa ngh ] On Behalf Of HarshaFriday, February 27, 2009 8:54 AMRE: to all concerned

 

Dear Sandoshan,

 

What is the source of this quote you gave by Sri Ramana. I would really appreciate knowing. Sorry if it was already given and I missed it.

 

Namaste and love to all

 

Yours in Bhagavan

Harsha

 

 

 

[HarshaSatsa ngh ] On Behalf Of andreas farsatisThursday, February 26, 2009 9:30 AMAW: to all concerned

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Michael sometimes I re-mind my self

 

of Sri Ramanas words:" what would you be without the stories

 

you tell about your self?".

 

 

 

In Peace through His Grace,

 

 

 

Shandosham

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dearest Sandhoshan,

 

Thank you for your response.

 

There are many sources that contain actual direct quotes of Sri

Ramana that were taken down and written when he uttered them. Examples are “Talks

with Ramana Maharshiâ€. “Day by Day with Bhagavanâ€. There are also recollection

of devotees who spend 40, 50, or even 60 years with Bhagavan. There are also

the Original Works of Bhagavan containing his own writing. Professor

Krishnamurthy has been posting some of these. Those are the first rate sources

of Bhagavan’s teachings and his words.

 

Many of the works like the “Talksâ€, etc. were actually shown to

Bhagavan and received his approval as being authentic prior to being published.

 

Bhagavan has a certainly quality in his words that is unmistakable.

It is all right to paraphrase Bhagavan but it should be made clear that it is a

paraphrase and not a direct quote.

 

For example, if I do not have a source at hand, I will say, “As

I recall Bhagavan said……â€

 

So, you can say, “As I recall Sri Ganesan said that Bhagavan

once pointed out something like ……one on the top of the hill has no problems,

etc.â€

 

If you read the original works of Bhagavan and recollection by

devotees and the “Talks†and “Day by Day†you will become intimate with

Bhagavan’s teachings.

 

Namaste and love

 

Yours in Bhagavan

Harsha

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On

Behalf Of andreas farsatis

Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:37 AM

 

RE: to all concerned/Again

requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri Ramana

 

 

 

 

 

 

Namaste dear Harsha,

 

 

 

 

 

I hope I can satisfy your curiosity.

 

 

 

 

 

The source of the statement is Sri Ganeshan,

 

 

in his talk on 29.01.09.

 

 

 

 

 

The context in which the statement was given, is about

 

 

the innumerable layers of the mind, that has to be

 

 

jumped over so that true spirituality can occure,

 

 

in that sence the one who is on the top of the hill

 

 

has no problem with the mind anymore,

 

 

up the top of the hill everything appears so tiny

 

 

and unimportant.

 

 

As oppose to the one who is cought in the mind

realm

 

 

always busy with his own particular path,

argueing

 

 

with others about the effectiveness and the quality of

 

 

the diverse paths that are suppose to lead to the top of

the hill.

 

 

 

 

 

All regards,

 

 

 

 

 

Sandoshan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- Harsha schrieb am Mi,

4.3.2009:

 

 

 

Von: Harsha

Betreff: RE: to all concerned/Again requesting

the source of the quote attributed to Sri Ramana

An:

Datum: Mittwoch, 4. März 2009, 3:31

 

 

 

 

Dear Santoshan,

 

 

 

Thank you for your note. I am curious.

 

 

 

You specifically quote Sri Ramana as

saying, “ " Only who is on the

top

 

of the hill has no problems " .

 

You

put the statement in quotation marks and so I assume that you must know the source

of it. I also would like to know the source and the context in which that

comment was made. Thanks in advance.

 

It

is generally accepted protocol to provide the exact source when specifically

quoting someone.

 

Namaste

and love

 

Yours

in Bhagavan

Harsha

 

 

 

 

 

[HarshaSatsa ngh ] On Behalf Of andreas farsatis

Tuesday, March 03, 2009 7:47 AM

 

RE: to all concerned/Again requesting

the source of the quote attributed to Sri Ramana

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Harsha,

 

 

 

 

 

thank you for making your

perspective clear,

 

 

fortunately is my perspective not

very

 

 

different to yours.

 

 

 

 

 

There is no need to

apologize becouse as

 

 

Sri Ramana said: " Only who

is on the top

 

 

of the hill has no

problems " .

 

 

 

 

 

Yours in Baghavan,

 

 

 

 

 

Santoshan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- Harsha <harsha@harshasatsan gh.com> schrieb am Mo,

2.3.2009:

 

 

Von: Harsha <harsha@harshasatsan gh.com>

Betreff: RE: to all concerned/Again

requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri Ramana

An:

Datum: Montag, 2. März 2009, 15:39

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sandoshan,

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you for

clarifying. Attributing someone else’s words to Sri Ramana has happened

before on this list. Whenever that happens (and if I see the message), I

instantly sense something does not sound right. Even when Sri

Ramana’s words have been translated into English from Tamil, there is a

certain quality to them (for me).

 

A child know his

mother and rarely confuses her with another woman. A child knows how his

mother acts, speaks, what she is likely to say in any given situation, and

is intimate with the very presence of her being. That is how it is with me

and the Bhagavan Ramana, the Sage of Arunachala.

 

We had one time

someone attribute a quote to Ramana when it was from Nisargadatta. At that

time also, I asked for the source and it turned out it was indeed from

Nisargadatta. The fact that I express my doubt frankly on these matters

possibly creates some irritation.

 

But please everyone

should keep in mind that this list is devoted to Sri Ramana. In my view, it

is simply basic courtesy to not be careless when suggesting that Sri Ramana

said something.

 

There are so many

neo-advaita teachers now. Even every day pop psychologists like Dr. Phil in

the U.S. have joined in and provide solutions to many problems. There is

nothing wrong with that, of course. Probably, they help a lot of people

who have need for their type of teaching and style.

 

For Bhagavan’s

devotees, however, things might be a little different.

 

Without giving in to

the glamour of the self-help gurus, neo advaita teachers, and charismatic

psychologists, devotees should take care to keep their outlook pure in

Bhagavan and the vision steady turned upon itself for Self-Realization.

 

This sangha is devoted

to the purest teachings as given by Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi.

 

I apologize if I have

hurt any feelings and hope you understand my perspective.

 

Namaste and love to

all

 

Yours in Bhagavan

Harsha

 

 

@

. com [HarshaSatsa ngh ] On Behalf Of

andreas farsatis

Monday, March 02, 2009 8:34 AM

 

RE: to all concerned/Again requesting

the source of the quote attributed to Sri Ramana

 

 

 

 

 

 

Namaste,

 

 

 

 

 

this particular quote was send to me years ago by a friend who

lives in Australia.

 

 

I just phoned him to make sure that its from Sri Ramana and his

 

 

answer was " yes " but after a short research we found out

that

 

 

the quote has been stated by Byron Katie.

 

 

 

 

 

Excuse the inaccuracy please and sorry for the late

responce.

 

 

 

 

 

Yours in Baghavan,

 

 

 

 

 

Sandoshan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- Harsha <harsha@harshasatsan gh.com> schrieb am So,

1.3.2009:

 

 

Von: Harsha <harsha@harshasatsan gh.com>

Betreff: RE: to all concerned/Again

requesting the source of the quote attributed to Sri Ramana

An:

Datum: Sonntag, 1. März 2009, 21:40

 

 

 

 

 

Hello Sandoshan,

 

 

 

 

 

I am again asking

you the source of this quote you attributed to Sri Ramana. In the past,

we have had quotes a few times attributed to Sri Ramana which turned out

to be wrong.

 

Because this is a

Sri Ramana list, it is critical that people not be careless in this regard.

If this quote attributed to Sri Ramana has a specific source, I would

appreciate your providing it.

 

Thank you.

 

Namaste and love to

all

 

Yours in Bhagavan

Harsha

 

 

 

 

[HarshaSatsa ngh (AT) (DOT)

com] On Behalf Of Harsha

Friday, February 27, 2009 8:54 AM

 

RE: to all concerned

 

 

 

Dear Sandoshan,

 

What is the source

of this quote you gave by Sri Ramana. I would really appreciate knowing.

Sorry if it was already given and I missed it.

 

Namaste and love to

all

 

Yours in Bhagavan

Harsha

 

 

 

 

[HarshaSatsa ngh (AT) (DOT)

com] On Behalf Of andreas farsatis

Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:30 AM

 

AW: to all concerned

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Michael sometimes I re-mind my self

 

 

of Sri Ramanas words: " what would you be without the stories

 

 

you tell about your self? " .

 

 

 

 

 

In Peace through His Grace,

 

 

 

 

 

Shandosham

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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