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Dear Peter ,

 

My feeling ( with my limited experience ) is that some sort of duality will continue to

exist till the point of realisation is reached..It may be illusory in the ultimate sense

but this feeling of separateness appears very real and cannot be wished away..

That is why perhaps they say SURRENDER and SELF ENQUIRY may have to

go hand in hand...

 

Also in this dog eat dog world existence.. TRUST and SURRENDER to a HIGHER

BEING is very comforting !!

 

love

ramesh

--- On Sun, 4/26/09, Peter <not_2 wrote:

Peter <not_2 investigation Date: Sunday, April 26, 2009, 2:11 PM

 

 

"By a steady and continuous investigation into the nature of the mind, themind is transformed into That to which the 'I' refers; and that is in factthe Self." (from "Who am I?" by Ramana Marharshi)It is with the mind that one has to make this investigation into "the natureof the mind". It is the same mind that can wax lyrical about surrender, the Heart, Graceand His Will & so on. Sri Ramana teaches that as long as we believe we are separate from a 'Him',from 'God' and 'Grace' we are still in the realm of illusion resulting fromidentification with the body-mind. Hence we see the others, the world andGod as separate from us. These are the triads and pairs mention in versenine of Sri Ramana's Ulladhu Narpadhu."The triads all arise depending on the ego-sense; so too arise the pairs. Ifone enters the heart by the Quest of `Who is the I?' and sees the truth ofit (the

Real Self) all of them vanish utterly; such a one is the Sage; he isnot deluded (by them)." (v9, Ulladhu Narpadhu)Or, as Sri Ramana clearly expresses it:"Atman alone exists and is real. The threefold reality of world, individualsoul, and God is, like the illusory appearance of silver in the mother ofpearl, an imaginary creation in the Atman. They appear and disappearsimultaneously. The Self alone is the world, the 'I' and God. All thatexists is but the manifestation of the Supreme. For the subsidence of mindthere is no other means more effective and adequate than Self-enquiry. Eventhough by other means the mind subsides, that is only apparently so; it willrise again."(from "Who am I?" by Ramana Marharshi)Peter

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