Guest guest Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 The Direct Knowledge, in contrast to " indirect knowledge " , referred to in GURU VACHAKA KOVAI verses 529-533 is that Knowledge which is non other than abiding as the pure awareness, ie as the Self. Knowledge which is derived from experience and knowledge which is derived from books and study are both types of Relative knowledge. We experience the sun rising, moving across the heavens and setting. This direct experience and its knowledge, namely that the Sun moves round the earth, is illusory. It has only a relative reality. We now 'know' it is the earth spinning which gives the illusion that the sun rises and sets and that, actually, the earth travels round the sun, not vice versa. In this particular case our 'intellectual understanding' is a more accurate (right knowledge) as to the true nature of events than our direct 'experiential knowledge'. Experiential knowledge and intellectual understanding both have their strengths and weakness. Knowledge of the chemical composition of water is unlikely to help us learn how to swim - for that we need to enter the water itself - and such knowledge is not of much use to a drowning man! Likewise, knowing how to swim is unlikely to be of any use to people dying for lack of fresh drinking water and where the rivers, streams and water supplies are all polluted. The person with the intellectual understanding of the chemical constitution of water and matter is likely to be more helpful there. The Sages explain that our experience of the world in whatever state of consciousness is based on ajnana (ignorance of our true nature) which results in the misperception of ourselves and others as limited beings. Hence we perceive others, the world and god as separate from ourselves. So we might say that any knowledge - experiential or intellectual - that arises as a result of our identification with the body-mind and which is part of our experience of the world of duality is only 'relative knowledge' at best. In " Forty Verses on Reality " (Ulladhu Narpadhu), Sri Ramana states: Knowledge is never and nowhere in the world separate from ignorance; neither is ignorance at any time and for anyone separate from knowledge; true knowledge is the Awareness of the original Self, which becomes manifest by the Quest 'Who is this I to whom belong both of these,' nothing else. (verse 10) This is not meant to mean that there is an " original Self " separate from us which we become aware of. " Awareness " *is* the nature of the Self which is Sat-chit, or existence-consciousness. " I am " is Sat-Chit and is neither an object of perception and knowledge nor an object of experience. As Sri Ramana says in " Talks " : " The Self is the basis of all the experiences. It remains as the witness and the support of them all. The Reality is thus different from the three states, the waking, the dream and the deep sleep. " (Talk 617) In other words, all experiences belong to one or other of the three states mentioned above. The Self is pure Awareness, it is not " a state " . In Vedanta and in Sri Ramana's talks and writings the word " experience " is used in two different ways. Sometimes it refers to experiences associated with the three states of waking, dream and sleep. Such experiences may be material, supersensuous or spiritual. These all have the characteristic of an 'I' who has an experience. Such experiences, like all experiences, do not last and are therefore of the nature of the 'unreal'. " What matters is only that which is natural. Such must be eternal and cannot be experienced. That which is born must die; that which is acquired must be lost. Were you born? You are ever existent. The Self can never be lost. " (Talk 20) In other words while experiences come and go - whether good or bad, profound or superficial - the Self, the 'I am' (Sat-chit, existence-consciousness) is ever present, unborn and undying. At other times the word " experience " or " direct experience " is used to refer to a direct knowing, or realisation. For example: " The egoless 'I am' is not thought. It is realisation. The meaning or significance of 'I' is God. The experience of 'I am' is to Be Still. " (Talk 226) 'I am' is our own awareness and is not something other than ourselves to be gained or experienced. As Sri Ramana explains: " Can anything be as direct as the Self - always experienced without the aid of the senses? Sense-perceptions can only be indirect knowledge, and not direct knowledge. Only one's own awareness is direct knowledge, as is the common experience of one and all. No aids are needed to know one's own Self, i.e., to be aware. " (Talk 92) " " I am " alone is; and not " I am so and so " , or " I am such and such " . When existence is absolute it is right; when it is particularised it is wrong. That is the whole truth. " (Talk 363) Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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