From Muraganar's Garland of Guru's Sayings. Prof Swaminathan Translation cont'd

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7.

 

Mind

 

913

 

Unsteady and wavering minds

find only failure

and frustration always.

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DrRaju wrote,

Awareness-Mind.

 

 

 

Dear all,

Awareness by itself is motionless and timeless.When it's attention is focussed

on an object it becomes the mind.The object changes all the time,so the nature

of mind is continuous movement.Once the attention

is withdrawn from the objects,mind no longer oscillates and becomes still.Still

mind is called nomind and

there is only one element in it-awareness.Still mind is possible when we

withdraw our attention from the

objects and attend to the perceiver of it,then mind becomes still.This is

possible in Self-enquiry.The concept of time and space arises only when there is

seeming movement of attention from the Self to the object.

Time is an interval between two events and events are possible only when we

attend to the objects.

But in Self-enquiry we withdraw our attention from the objects and we hold on to

awareness only.

So in Self-enquiry we go beyond the concepts of mind, time and space and we

abide as the Self which is

here and now.In " here " there is no space,in the " now " there is no time.

So time and space are not possible when we abide as the Self.

Time and space are possible in the relative dimension of duality.

The function of the mind is possible and needed only in the dualistic

relative world.In the absolute dimension of nonduality which is the

nature of Self,we go beyond mind,time,space.In duality there is

continuous conflict and misery,where as in natural state of nondual

Pure conscious being there is uninterrupted bliss and Self-enquiry is

the way for abiding as the Self.

, alanadamsjacobs wrote:

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> and frustration always.

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alanadamsjacobs wrote:

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> Unsteady and wavering minds

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> and frustration always.

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mind may crawl

mind may aspire

mind may renounce

and mind may desire.

 

mind may be seeing

and mind may be blind

mind can be seeking,

and mind can find. . .

 

mind plays it's games.

 

but

i

don't

mind.

 

 

_()_

yosy

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Working on the Mind with the Mind

Confusion Arises !

Yielding the heart to the Supreme Lover

Bliss Occurs !!!

 

love

 

ramesh

 

--- On Wed, 5/6/09, Yosy Flug <yosyflug wrote:

Yosy Flug <yosyflugRe: From Muraganar's Garland of Guru's Sayings. Prof Swaminathan Translation cont'd Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 11:52 AM

 

 

alanadamsjacobs@ .co. uk wrote:>>>>> 7.>> Mind>> 913>> Unsteady and wavering minds> find only failure> and frustration always.>:)mind may crawlmind may aspiremind may renounceand mind may desire.mind may be seeingand mind may be blindmind can be seeking,and mind can find. . .mind plays it's games.butidon'tmind._()_yosy

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drrajunsp wrote:

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> DrRaju wrote,

> Awareness-Mind.

>

> Dear all,

> Awareness by itself is motionless and timeless.When it's attention is

> focussed on an object it becomes the mind.The object changes all the

> time,so the nature of mind is continuous movement.Once the attention

> is withdrawn from the objects,mind no longer oscillates and becomes

> still.Still mind is called nomind and

> there is only one element in it-awareness.Still mind is possible when

> we withdraw our attention from the

> objects and attend to the perceiver of it,then mind becomes still.This

> is possible in Self-enquiry.The concept of time and space arises only

> when there is seeming movement of attention from the Self to the object.

> Time is an interval between two events and events are possible only

> when we attend to the objects.

> But in Self-enquiry we withdraw our attention from the objects and we

> hold on to awareness only.

> So in Self-enquiry we go beyond the concepts of mind, time and space

> and we abide as the Self which is

> here and now.In " here " there is no space,in the " now " there is no time.

> So time and space are not possible when we abide as the Self.

> Time and space are possible in the relative dimension of duality.

> The function of the mind is possible and needed only in the dualistic

> relative world.In the absolute dimension of nonduality which is the

> nature of Self,we go beyond mind,time,space.In duality there is

> continuous conflict and misery,where as in natural state of nondual

> Pure conscious being there is uninterrupted bliss and Self-enquiry is

> the way for abiding as the Self.

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this is very true, and succinctly put. thank you, friend.

 

_()_

yosy-

 

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> > and frustration always.

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7.

 

Mind

 

914

 

The restless mind

moves with a speed

that shames the God of Wind.

To starve it,

So that it,

like a cripple stays

Totally immobile

is to attain

Actual immortality.